Indo-Pak friendship: The phoenix without wings
Arts and sports have played an immense role in propagating peace across the world. Artists, philanthropists and sports celebrities have often proved to be the only people to have tried to change the status quo of the hostile relations between many countries such as India and Pakistan. Whether we talk about candlelight vigil at Wagah-Attari border, participation of Pakistani sportsmen in Indian Premiere League (IPL) or artists traveling across the border to share their work with people residing in both the countries, their efforts to develop the camaraderie between millions of estranged Indians and Pakistanis is endless and many a time beyond belief.
However, it is extremely unfortunate that the aforementioned people are always the first to be singled out whenever the tensions between India and Pakistan intensify. Last week nine Pakistani players, who were to participate in Hockey India League (HIL), were sent back home because of the mounting tensions at the Line of Control (LoC).It is also being speculated that Pakistan’s women cricket team may not be able to participate in the upcoming World Cup because of the tragic events which resulted in untimely deaths of Indian and Pakistani soldiers. Indian politicians, enraged with the situation, urged Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to take strictest action against Pakistani authorities. Some even demanded for “10 heads from Pakistan” for the alleged beheading of an Indian soldier whereas others speculated that certain radical elements were behind the execution.
Although what happened at the LoC can only be described as deplorable and detestable, however, acts of a certain individual or group should not be taken as cue to blame all Pakistanis as most of them bear no ill will towards Indians.
Sujal Tirpal, an Indian from Mumbai said, “It is most unfortunate that many people in India still consider all Pakistanis to be terrorists. It is a common phenomenon especially in North India where people refuse to believe that Pakistanis can see Indians or India progressing. What most of us fail to realize is that when we stereotype people on the basis of their nationalities, we become prejudiced and offensive in our own thoughts.”
He went on to add that, “People who possess such feelings and thoughts for fellow human beings, be it Pakistanis or Indians, can easily resort to the most evil means and kill indiscriminately without any remorse. If the educated people are unable to understand the difference between innocent Pakistanis, who play no part in jeopardizing the existence of India, and savage militants then we all should just crawl back to our caves.”
However, some Pakistanis and Indians differ from Tirpal’s opinions and believe that if an attack is launched from either side of the border then showing mercy towards any individual is considered against the basic rules of patriotism.
An Indian from Delhi on condition of anonymity said, “I completely agree with the ideology of Shiv Sena and it is our responsibility as Indians to keep Pakistanis away from India. They have never been one of our well-wishers. They attacked us in 1965, 1971, 1999, 2001 and then again in 2008. Sometimes they kill our soldiers and on other occasions they kill innocent civilians. I strongly believe that most Pakistanis are not peace loving and are always plotting against Indians or India.”
“Pakistan’s army, rulers and general public are all against India. We have suffered immensely over the past several decades because of their hidden vendetta against our state. I don’t want Pakistanisportsmen, artists, businessmen or politicians coming to our country and ruining our peace,” he added.
Reciprocating equally to the hostile sentiments of the aforementioned individual Salman Abbasi, a Pakistani from Lahore said, “instead of harping on and on about peace and what good it will bring to the South-Asian region, we all should just accept the fact that India and Pakistan can never become friendly nations. We are poles apart and I think we should break all ties with them because they keep on blaming Pakistan for everything that goes wrong on their border or in their country without having the decency to share any substantial evidence with us. They have been blaming us for over six decades now and I really do not think that they are interested in moving on to build better relations with us.”
Listening to all the negative comments I just could not stop thinking about why is it so difficult for us to believe that India and Pakistan can put the past behind and embark on a journey of healthy relations? Why is it unfathomable for many of us that we truly belong to the same race and are exactly similar in many ways? Is Indian blood any different for Pakistani blood? Why is it so easy for us to give up on each other without even thinking twice?
I refuse to believe that majority of Indians and Pakistanis endorse some of the negative feedback that I received. I know that most of us have positive feelings towards each other and stand united on various fronts. My thoughts were positively reinforced when I read a news report about Indian women protesting against the killings of Shia Muslims in Quetta. Simultaneously my views were once again proven true when young students from India and Pakistan met in New Delhi and vowed to spread peace.
Had armed forces and politicians from both sides of the border acted as gracefully and prudently as other civilians, the situation could have been controlled. It is important for all of us to understand that the people responsible for all the bloodshed do so to serve their own personal interests. They are neither friends of Pakistan nor foes of India. Their only motivation is power and money and by falling into their trap, every time they fuel violence, we just make their task easier. Although it is very difficult to control emotions over the loss of innocent lives, however, by giving rise to situations which may result in further loss of human lives, we prove to be irresponsible. Unless we give peace real chance, radical elements will continue to capitalize on our sentiments and turn us against each other.
The writer is a Reporter at Dawn.com
I again vouch for concrete and law abiding formulas to cemented the long lasting ties between the two.
But first and formost step is to stopping of terrorism by Pakistan in any form.
Dear Ms Mirza, You are trivializing the incidence at the LoC. There is ceasefire between the two countries, but we recently heard it was broken and some firing was shared between the two borders. That is normal. A soldier or two were died in this exchange of fire. That is not normal, but still it could be treated as an accident. But when someone crosses the border and beheads and mutilate a soldier, this is absolutely barbaric and unacceptable. And this should be treated with firm hand. Even after the meeting between representatives of the two army, in which Pakistani side completely denied any hand, is something can not be and should not be treated casually. So when the Indian Prime Minister said the business with Pakistan is not as usual, he is absolutely right. All the artists’ and sportsmen’s loss is extremely trivial. They shouldn’t have been arranged to be performing in India in the first place, according to me. As you said Pakistan has some elements which performs these acts of extreme violence. Pakistan should OWN them and act against them. And not deny and expect it will be forgiven.
India is not going to gain anything from cross border trade, visit of artists, sportsmen…instead we get fake currency,Drugs, guns supplied across the border…We dont want friendship neither we need hatred against Pakista, We indians are different culture..Our Sunni Muslims do not kill, Shias, Ismaeilis, Ahmediyas or Christians…Stop calling same culture….Let us live alone..Please…
To some extend, the writer is right, because I am from north India. It is not that I want to fight with Pakistan or destroy it but yes, I want all relation to be eliminated with your country. No Aman ki Asha or cricket, you be happy with your Islamic life and I am happy at my home. For the part concerned with history, I would like to forget me and my child that we had anything comman with you.
One thing i cannot understand that Pakistan alway give the very decent excused for the every henious offence they all committed.. Either it was in Mumbai 26/11 or in the lastest beheading the India solider and killed another one…Just tell me all Islamic paksitan govt that why you are doing that is in the guide line of Islam ideology…Killing Innocent people on the name of Jehad or holy war is the part of Islam…i feel ashmed that pakistan is an muslim country where human being is killing like an cats and dogs….why do you people have an Jealous with India….why..???…..you always attacked on India either in 1948 or 1965, 1971 or in 1999 kargil war…what output came..noting only killing Innocent peoples……
Rakesh ji: Namaste
I was born in India and visited it again in 1991. Was floored by hospitality, and felt no anti-Pakistani feeling whatsoever. Trade and travel is the key to Pak-India peace.
Ancient Hinduism is the religion closest to Mohammedan Islam, because both revolve around the unity of creation. However, Indians polluted their religion with caste divisions just as Muslims have theirs with dissension. Gandhi-ji tried to reform India by elevating Dalits to Hari-jans, but you know what happened to him. Muslim reformers mete the same fate.
But Caste Hinduism is a religion of origin foreign to India.
The only true Indian religion alive today is Buddhism – thoughtful, peaceful, egalitarian, and does not exploit women. Siddhartha Gautama Buddha was born in India, and in rejecting anti-woman and divisive Caste Hinduism there he developed this wonderful religion.
It was the foreign white skinned racist Aryans who over-ran India 3,500 years ago, and imposed the racist, anti-woman religion on it. They drove the dark skinned Dravidians south, and occupied the north and imposed their religion, the Caste on everyone.
Caste System is based on race. The word for caste in Sanskrit is “varna” meaning skin colour. Like all occupiers the Aryans imposed a division of sex and labour, keeping the higher professions for their males, and lower ones for the darker skinned. Women were reduced to Temple dancers and prostitutes for the Priests.
Even today, the Brahmins, the highest caste are lightest skinned, and Dalit, the lowest caste, are darkest.
Our dear friend in the West, Mr. Hitler, very fond of the Aryan Swastika, a Caste Hindu symbol, also had in mind a Caste System, a division of labour for Europe where the lesser races would serve the higher ones. Whereas Caste Hinduism expelled Buddhism from India, and succeeded because the land was agrarian and labour was physical. Hitler failed because the division of labour based on race is incompatible with the emerging trading world where most of the work is mental, and all humans of race or gender or size are equally gifted and capable in logical capability.
Later occupiers of India, the Muslims, who ruled for 700 years, also imposed a division of labour, however, being a trading people, it was much milder. They also did not obliterate the local religion like Caste Hinduism did earlier, though there were conversions by Sufi saints.
Then came the English, who un-traded India, reducing it totally to an agrarian land to feed their factories in England. They were able to impose the harshest English Caste System, much worse and exploitative than Hindu Caste System. But racism does not pay. Naturally, India’s share of world wealth that had been steady at a quarter to a third for 2,000 years 300BC to 1,700 AD under Maurya, Ashoka, Gupta, and even under the Muslims, dropped under the English to mere 2% in 1,900.
Indians today who defend the alien Caste Hinduism are the descendents of the foreign Aryan invaders. They want the status quo to continue the favourable division of labour where they get the largest share of the loot, the national pie.
Of the 3 main religions of agrarian origin – Ancient Hinduism, Christianity, Buddhism, the latest is non-mythological, rational, thoughtful, peaceful, sex-neutral, egalitarian.
Of the 2 main religions of trading origin – Hellenism(West) and Mohammedan Islam, the latter is non-mythological, rational, thoughtful, peaceful, sex-neutral, egalitarian.
If Indians want to compete in today’s world of globalization and free trade, and especially the Buddhist East Asian tigers, and want equality for women, they should throw out the foreign religion of Caste Hinduism that is anti-feminine, racist, and divisive. Then they have two rational choices.
Either go back to the best of the Agrarian religion of truly Indian origin – Buddhism, or forward to the best of Trading religion – Mohammedan Islam.
Best wishes
You need to throw out your old Pakistani school text books and read real history and anthropology, my friend. You’re just making a fool of yourself with every comment of yours.
i dont know who let you in canada .
First of all you should know that Aryan invading theory has been debunked already. The people of India has no commonality with Europeans and so that busts the myth of Aryan invasion. The Aryans are the original people of Indian sub continent.
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_new-research-debunks-aryan-invasion-theory_1623744
Having said that, Hindu or Vedic religion existed long before the time when middle east or Europe had no notion of civilization. The society had a structure and this structure was based on qualities rather than skin color. Word “Varna” in sanskrit means category and not color. Now these categories were knowledge, fighting ability, trading ability or labour . Depending upon the quality of the person, he would have fit in one of these. The categorization used to be done during the schooling days in ancient India and not by birth. Later this categorization was based on Birth which of course was the misuse of the system. Buddhism evolved in India not because of caste system but because of the complex rituals as prescribed in Vedas. The vedas were in sanskrit while common people’s language was prakrit or pali. Only few who could under stand the Vedas had the knowledge. Also the complex nature of Vedas made people uninterested in them. Because of simple language of Siddartha’s preaching, buddhism was attractive to mass. The Vedic religion has always been a religion for seekers and people with intellectual. Common mass always had problem understanding it because people’s brain are not that developed to grasp what vedas are talking about. In the world, most of the people are common people , not intellectuals. They need simple instructions like don’t steal, don’t lie, don’t kill and that is why you have abrahamic religions which were for these common mass societies. Now for the criticism of caste system in Vedic religion, is there any religion which does not have some sort of exploit system? Do muslims from Saudi Arab consider them equal to Muslims from South Asia? Do Shias and Sunnis consider each other equals? Are Qadianis and Ahmedis respected in Pakistan though they pray to same god as other people? Do European Christian consider the African ones equal to them? The answer is NO.
As for women equality, the Vedic religion put the women in high respect and that is why we have so many goddesses. The women have not only played a major part in Hindu history but at times they are regarded more than men. How many example of woman leading in front can you cite from ancient Islam or Christianity?
good one mate.. mr abbas from pakistan(errr, sorry toronto) has just left the building
Faiza, as much as i appreciate your feelings and sentiments for a amicable indo-pak atmosphere, i don’t see it to be happening.. India has suffered immensely because of the hatred across the border and every time we offer a olive branch, we been stabbed in the back.. take 1965, 1971, 1999, 2008 and 2011 for instances.. Had it been any other country(US/Israel), i am sure the response would have been very direct with real consequences.. and i am sure the entire world would have been on our side and sympathetic to our causes which i believe they still are…
I’ve seen comments here that there are no evidence of any pakistani wrongdoings in india. these guys got to be kidding me.. either they are ignorant souls or simply the ones who often live in denial mode.. the evidence captured, traced and documented is beyond any doubts.. accepted in the international courts.. with multiple foreign agencies relying and authenticating them… have a look with a clearer view, and you will see for yourself… anyways pakistani is reaping what it has sown all these years now… so its imperative that they work on it or eventually won’t have anything to defend.
I think problem lies on the pakistan side and their will to take the peace initiative ahead.. the political leadership in india has already done its part by not acting aggressively to any of the provocative advances during all these years, even when it cost them their image, public anger and opposition threats on instability… pakistan has to do more… the entire world knows and believes the epicenter of terrorism is inside pakistan.. the terror camps in muridke and muzzafarbad are counter productive and ploughing seeds of hatred, barbarism and religious fundamentalism and extremism.. these are not needed for a healthy growth of pakistan.. for a bright future of their yound generation. If they can’t understand such simple things, i don’t see any place for peace process between the neighbors.
The problem is that India has failed to uphold the UN resolutions on Kashmir.
People should realize that peace is the only option, if we want to progress and improve. If major European powers can kill each other in the millions in the first half of the 20th century, and still have peace in the second half. Why is it not possible for Pakistan and India to do the same after 65 years of hostility. Both countries need to re-evaluate their respective policies regarding each other.
Generalizations and blanket statements against a whole nation comes from people who haven’t fully evolved yet into humans. It’s an instinctive fear. Much like how animals fear even when humans are trying to help them.
Yes , you are right . But then Mathematicians have to drop their concepts like statistics , probability etc . When you know most of the terrorists have links to Pakistan in some way or other , How can you close your eyes ?Generalizations are made after a study , not blindly.
LOL
When I see 0-35 thumbs on a post that seems to defend Pakistan, I smell fish.
Here in Canada’s “Toronto Globe and Mail” that I post often, this happens regularly in any piece on Israel.
Typically, a post is thumbed by 20-50 people max. But suddenly, you will see 0-930 on any post that defends the Palestinians, and that is because the “Hasbara”, a Mossad organization to propagandize Israel, is ready with its automons to pad the post with thumbs down.
It has begun to dawn on me (no pun intended) that Dawn
1. Is not read by Pakistanis
2. There is an Indian Hasbara
Time will tell.
It could be true. There could be more Indians reading Dawn news online than Pakistanis. But I guess, they are normal Indians readers without any agenda or support from any agency.
Oh, I’m sure you have lots of conspiracy theories to offer on Israel…:-)
Dear Abbas,
Very well said, i fully second you.
Further, I have seen extremely negative comments from apparently indian readers being posted on Dawn, while at several instances my comments just to defend our point of view
as a Pakistani were not posted. So i would say Dawn has to come clean as well on their policy of what they will post and what they won’t, and I still assume its a Pakistani Newspaper.
Lets see if this one goes through.
On the contrary.. Majority of us believe that India and Pakistan can never be friends !!
We shouldn’t always find an escape by blaming Politicians and Army, they play the easiest cards to distract minds from the main issues .
Till the people of both the countries do not understand that its equally harmful to them to be in the war. Whether a common Pakistani or an Indian, we are always at loss (direct or indirect) when both the countries go hostile against each other.
Civilizations which do not learn from past can not succeed !! We haven’t learned an iota from our past .. at least 65 years !!
The main reason for Pak hate towards India is their inability to see hindu establishment ruling India which they ,foolishly,consider as their property!!they want share in economic boom of India which they ,through rogue elements like Moghuls ,once had control over!!But Pak should know that every race/civilization has its time and now its the time of Hindu race to dominate world!!Now if pakistan continue to not accept that even after India becoming 3rd most powerful country in the world – courtesy CIA Report 2012 – then I can see they are only racing towards their destruction!!This suicide mentality of “Hum to Doobenge sanam …..” will not work with India as no country ,least of pak ,can stop India from becoming Super Power!!
Only India can stop itself from becoming superpower
I think you didn’t get the point here!
Me too want my country to be a Super Power and I know that will happen soon bro ! But you won’t disagree that a lot of our resources get wasted on defense. Both of the countries have huge population under poverty which can be benefited if resources are channelized to the development and upliftment rather than spending on arms !!
And food for thought “Why do an issue emerge on the border only when there is some internal issue in the country (either one)” ? Think man! Think !!
And shall we stop boasting about being a super power now? we have long way to go before self-proclaiming that! Bossing around SAARC nations doesn’t give us the status of a Super Power ! Though we have grown tremendously in two decades.. still we have to go a long way and have to fix myriad internal issues !!
Indo-Pakistan friendship: A dodo bird?
Do you think that killing of the innocent people and peace talk can move together. Please dont ask for proof from India for the crime committed by the evils from within Pakistan. It is the duty of the Pakistani establishment to find out the proof. If you are really peace loving country, I think most of the Pakistani are, please do something positive in the right direction. If peace is there, everything will be possible, be it sports, music, movie….. anything.
Here you Go with your proof
NEW DELHI: Indian External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid has backed a statement regarding Hindu terrorism made by the country’s Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde.
On Sunday, the Indian Home Minister had accused the BJP and its ideological mentor RSS of promoting ‘Hindu Terrorism’. According to the Shinde, the government had received an investigation report that training camps of the RSS or be it the BJP were promoting Hindu terrorism.During a news conference here, External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid said Shinde’s statement was based on facts made available by investigative agencies to the Home Ministry
And every well informed person in India is laughing at Mr Shinde. Even the BJP, after full throated protests yesterday, has realized that there’s no point. These periodic juvenile stunts by Congress before every election are being treated as the comic relief that they truly are…:-)
The 2 countries need not be ‘friendly’. Let them not squabble non stop. Thats enough as of now .
Peace can prevail only if there is political will and wisdom. It may be true that some radical group wants to derail the peace process. But then it is the duty of both Governments to disassociate from such groups immediately. But it seems that does not happen and denials based on political mileage persists.
Living in the Gulf, I meet a lot of Pakistanis from all walks of life, day in and day out. This Indian-Pakistani interaction is normal in this part of the world as many of you know. Regarding the so called ‘re-orientation of Pakistan’ towards Arabia away from its South Asian roots, I have failed to see any great evidence of it among the Pakistanis I met. If anything, they reinforce their South Asian heritage and this is especially so among the Pathans. I know that a few hundred individuals cannot represent the whole population but this is what I see. If anything, the better educated Pakistanis tend to be more antagonistic towards India than the ‘blue collar’ workforce (for want of a better term). My wife, who is not Indian, tells me stories of Pakistanis in her office who are well spoken, with excellent manners and top-notch professionalism, who turn all dour and uncompromising on India. They sometimes explain this as the result of they being ‘more Arabic’ than ‘Indian’, which they sort of equate to be being better in their minds. But this is a rare minority in my view.
Andy: Greetings
You are right. If anything, a stay among the Arabs makes a Pakistani revolted against them, partly because of their racism.
When I left Pakistan in 1968 we used to consider the Persians, the Turks, and the Arabs one notch above us. But upon interaction with them here in the West and in their native countries you realize how much ahead South Asia is of them, and that is a legacy of the Raj that gave us the gift of the English language, and a like with modernity that these others do not have.
Modernity is not in European Dress or wealth, but in outlook towards reality.
Best wishes
Arabs don’t consider pakistanis as islamic.. I met one lady whose father has been working in a bank in saudi for 35 years, yet he cannot be considered for citizenship in saudi arabia..his daughter was born in saudi still she is not saudi citizen. Saudi consider pakistani as secondhand.
You are correct, The educated lot tends to be more anti-pakistan/india on either side of the border. The common man has other basic issues too worry about. Only difference though in Pakistan the extremists are reaching out to poor and middle class and the indoctrination of militant form of Islam is more pronounced as compared to in India. Also note open media will always trigger passion on sensitive issues and both the Government has to deal with this carefully.
I have my neighbours Kamran and Wasim bhai. They hate pakistan to core and blames pakistan for everyhing against India..accha hua hamrein buzurg waha migrate nahi hua.
kash ap to hamary hoty!
The process of establishing peace between the two countries is ahead of its time. Pakistan is a country with multi-polar power centers and where nobody is in control. Talking peace at this time with it can be a pass time but not a fruitful endeavor. With a massive historical baggage much more conducive conditions are required. Unfortunately, Pakistan does not seem to have even the basic condition for transacting any serious matter.
We don’t want to be friend with Pakistan…All people in this world are not friend but they live…so in the same way we can live without friendship….Live and let others live …..Since my childhood I am seeing Aman kI Asha …and Tamasha from both sides …who cares about Pakistan…We have enough things in India for joy and sorrow that we don’t want any unnecessary trouble.. India is great country that’s why we are in good condition even we have all kind of religion..People living peacefully. I live in Lucknow where half population is of Muslims still I haven’t seen any kind of disturbance in my life. In India people is trying to get out of their difficulties by doing hard , that’s why Indian middle class is increasing day by day…so we don’t really care about peace with Pakistan..but as a neighbor I want Pakistan to remain stable..
Going by the comments made by lots of people here, the perception in Pakistan seems to be that only Hindus in India hate Pakistan. I have lots of Muslim friends. They all thank their good fortune that their grandparents didn’t migrate during partition. They are very much in love with India’s pluralistic diverse culture and despise the fanatical mob-infested society you live in.
PS: When your illustrious countrymen like Ajmal Kasab let loose his guns in crowded places, or the LET sets off a bomb, its not only Hindus who get killed.
Good one Roy. yes it is indeed true that most muslims in India thank Allah for their luck. At least there is progress in India and focus is away from religion which answers a lot of problems.
Correctly said I am one of them
I am an indian and definately feel lucky and feel pity for people dying on other side. I feel Pakistan should move towards peace. There are people who will always try to divide us on various sentiments. Please don’t give them space and time. I do meet bad people in india as well but they are very less 1% may be. But if you have faith and open mind you would like peace and love more than hate and suffering.
I think in this particular episode, everyone in India was disturbed at the nonchalance of the Pakistani reaction to the beheading. Even one word of regret at the event would have made a huge difference, but instead, there were people mocking the shocked attitude of Indians to the events. The suggestion to “grow up”, were not received well, to put it mildly. And, these reactions were from members of the establishment, no less.
This was perceived as rank callousness. Everyone understands that a live border will see incidents, and even casualties. But people were completely puzzled at the callous attitudes of even high-ranking officials, and some reaction was inevitable. I think, in the end, cultural links being put on hold was much preferable to a militarily response, everyone would agree.
Right on. People like me who used to give benefit of doubt to Pakistan in arguments with friends, have no answers to these questions.
You write that “acts of a certain individual or group should not be taken as cue to blame all Pakistanis as most of them bear no ill will towards Indians”. And you know that the Government of Pakistan represents Pakistan. When it does nothing about the beheading of an Indian soldier, and does nothing about the Mumbai attacks, and does nothing about the terrorist training camps in Pakistan, why should not all Pakistanis get blamed? The reason Pakistani politicians do nothing is because the public does not hold them accountable. As a Pakistani citizen who finds terrorist attacks on India a bad thing, what have you done to get your Government to act against terrorists? I am glad the Indian Govt had the spine to send the Pakistani players back.
Being the Neigbouring countries both the countries should play thier role towards betterment. I have observed that there is sever lack of Maturity in the politicians of India, who never wants to see the friendly relationship with Pakistan.
A Pakistani General is reported to have said that soon after independence, Pakistan started buying weapons fearing that India might attack Pakistan in future, but after one decade they were convinced that India never had such intention. In all wars, Pakistan intially blamed India but admitted their misadventure later on. Ditto for Kashmir. Mumbai attack was also blamed on India and handiwork of India media. But now they say it was done by Pakistanis. A Pakistani Judge approved first military rule on the basis of “principle of necessity” which was used to justify all subsequent military regimes. The same judge admitted after two decades that it was the gravest mistake of his life. After 65 years of partition, many pakistanis now feel that is is better to have good relations with India and fate of Kashmiris should be left to Kashmiris only. And I am sure after few months or years, Pakistanis will condemn the incident of beheading an Indian soldier. If ” batti der se jalti hai” is maturity, Pakistanis are really mature.
Dear Faiza
I truely support your articles. You have the godly gifted talent to understand the scenario and depit in mindblowing words…….What ever be the actions / realities behind, I love the ordinary pakistanies…..and very much…………….Love – Aditya das menon from India
NO peace with India. thats all!
We too want no link with you people who are so rigid knowing very well that once upon a time you all were hindus and India is your ancestor’s place not arabia….
lol @ both amna and kaly…..falling for the trap the writer of this article advises us to avoid.
Completely agree with Amir. Kaly, please, can we consign the religious conversion nonsense to the dustbin of history? It has been done, ages ago. That’s how the world moves on. What is your plan? Do you want to convert them back? And how will it help the world today? Even Pakistanis’ supposed turning away from a South Asian heritage to an Arabian one is an internal social issue of Pakistan, and have little bearing on relations with India. Let them sort it out themselves.
Today’s problems between the two countries have very little to do with what transpired hundreds of years ago.
It is right that Sub-continent was our forefather’s place ( not India ) . But we were definitely not Hindus at all , and we fought for our freedom , don’t sound like that Pakistan was given as a gift to us .
Is truth is that bitter to you.
@Amna – you do not have compassion for Pakistani soldiers? What you are saying is be at war with India. OK – who gets killed Soldiers from both side of the border. Forget Indian Soldiers. Think about the Pakstani Soldiers and their families – why should they die because of your ego, one-upmanship, and your eagerness to prove a (theoretical) Point (i dont mean particularly u but people like from both side of the border). Cool down and then think…..Positive sentiments are good Negative sentiments like hatred, jealousy, anger turns a Human Being into an ANIMAL.