JI chief's remarks an insult to Pakistan's martyrs: ISPR
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RAWALPINDI: In a strong statement, Pakistan Army’s Inter Service Public Relations (ISPR) condemned Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) Chief Syed Munawar Hassan’s statement in which he called former Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Chief Hakimullah Mehsud a martyr.
The statement said that the JI chief's remarks were irresponsible and that it was only made for political point scoring.
"Munawar Hassan's statement is an insult to the thousands of Pakistani civilians and soldiers killed," the ISPR statement said.
"To declare dead terrorists as martyrs makes Munawar Hassan's remarks highly condemnable.
"Strong condemnation of his views from an overwhelming majority leaves no doubt in any one's mind that all of us are very clear on what the state of Pakistan is and who are its enemies," the statement said.
"The people of Pakistan, whose loved ones laid down their life while fighting terrorists, and families of martyrs of armed forces demand an unconditional apology from Syed Munawar Hassan for hurting their feelings. It is also expected that Jamaat-i-Islami should clearly state its party position on the subject," said the ISPR statement.
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I. Kamal
Nov 10, 2013 09:02pm
Paak Afwaaj Zindabaad! Salute to the Martyrs who died for Pakistan!
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S. A. M.
Nov 10, 2013 09:05pm
Totally agree with the ISPR's condemnation. It gives words to the feelings of the masses. Munawar's statement has not only hurt the feelings of millions of pakistanis and the families of those slained by the TTP but also it shows how he looks at the terrorists. Armed Forces many salutes to you for calling a spade a spade. GREAT JOB. I strongly protest against Munawar's satatement and request that he should be tried for high treason. Apology is not enough.
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ehsan
Nov 10, 2013 09:19pm
Comments of Munnawar are disgusting but what can you expect from the party which opposed the creation of Pakistan. He should be sued for making such statements. He has not only insulted the whole Pakistani nation but more specifically the members of armed forces who died fighting these terrorists and countless innocents murdered by these terrorists.
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Muhammad Taqi
Nov 10, 2013 09:22pm
I condemn these stupid words of JI chief calling a terrorst a martyr. Our innocent civilians and brave soldiers who have sacrified their lives are martyrs. Remarks of Fazl ul Rehman are also condemned in the strongest possible terms.
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Naeem Syed
Nov 10, 2013 09:14pm
Only Jamat-e-Islami have the right to being martyrs so lets send them and Maulana Fazal to the front for a change. They just know how to make political statements and that's all.Shame on them for not respecting those that gave the ultimate sacrifice for their Country, what have these people done, Nothing.
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Ali
Nov 10, 2013 09:16pm
People like Munawar Hassan and parties like the JI are an insult to any civilized, intelligent human who wants to live and proposer from the offerings of the modern world...since his mind belongs to the stone age, perhaps he should be sent back just there...
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Rauf
Nov 10, 2013 09:31pm
I do not understand why JI is allowed to operate in Pakistan. JI was opposed to the creation of Pakistan. Its terrorist branch, Al Badr and Al Shams, killed scores of people in Bangladesh (East Pakistan then). Its students wing, IJT, never hesitated using force against liberal and secular students, even killed many. Here JI is now calling a mass murderer a shaheed? Its a shame and insult not only to Pakistanis but all the victims of terrorism.
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Omer
Nov 10, 2013 09:38pm
I think JI chief should be ashamed of himself. I fully stand by ISPR....Love live Pakistan!!!
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True Pakistani
Nov 10, 2013 09:45pm
Well said ISPR !
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M r Khawaja
Nov 10, 2013 10:18pm
These sick minded Mullahs and their parties should be banned in Pakistan not the Taliban they are and will be doing what they want.
Pakistan Army should take these Mullahs to border and shoot them or give them to Taliban.
They are a shame to Pakistan and its people.
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Malik
Nov 10, 2013 10:19pm
I totally agree with the Pakistan Army reaction on the JI's statement.
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Parvez
Nov 10, 2013 10:21pm
It good to see the army showing a bit of resolve and not calling a spade a spade.
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Saad(DXB)
Nov 10, 2013 10:28pm
While completely agreeing with the Pakistan Army stance on deploring calling of Hakeemullah Mehsud as a Shaheed by the JI Chief, I have two questions to ask our proud Army:
1) What is stopping you from lunching a full fledge operation in North Waziristan?
2) Are the lives of a few Pro-Pakistan and Anti-American Haqqani Militants residing in N.Waziristan so important that Army is letting thousands of Pakistanis getting killed by the TTP, while the latter openly plan these attacks and Army is a mere silent spectator?
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M. Siddique
Nov 10, 2013 10:20pm
Shame on these elements who support terrorists. Time has come that Pakistanis ask these "so-called' religious parties to declare whether they we Pakistanis or the terrorist enemies of the countries. People should stand up and demand a clear answer, if the are with us or them. If Jamaat-e-Islami and JUI support Pakistani constitution or the convoluted thinking of TTP? If they are honest they must come out and take the one or the other side and don't be wishy washy. Ifthey are with TTP then law must take its course and these parties should be declared illegal and their operations stopped. One cannot deny the sacrifices made by the army fighting TTP terrorists.
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Gerry D'Cunha
Nov 10, 2013 10:23pm
religious parties in pakistan are the main cause of insulting 'islam' fanning hatred and revenge for other sects and religion - they should all be banned - hats-off to bangladesh for banning Jamiat-e-Islam - religious parties should not take part in politics but rather teach the masses of their religious duties in life
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GM
Nov 10, 2013 10:29pm
I cried when I read this article. At last, somebody is talking sense. Uptil now I have felt like living in a crazyland.
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salam
Nov 10, 2013 10:40pm
after nine decades of life for this political party, this is what the party's chief (ameer) has to say? - the chap should be deposed off the position. There is no need to provide an 'oppurtunity to explain his statement' , what they put across is simple and clear. its as shameless as it is shameful
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Sethulal
Nov 10, 2013 10:40pm
The people of Pakistan should understand how much it hurts when terrorists who killed so many innocents citizens of India are termed martyrs/freedom fighters by Pakistan. If Pakistan wants to fight it should be Army vs Army and not Terrorists vs Innocent citizens.
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Abdur Rehman
Nov 10, 2013 10:34pm
Thank God, ISPR finally woke up. Munawwar Hasan should should be arrested and tried for treason.
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BKH
Nov 10, 2013 10:38pm
Sane voice of the society should make the Cleric feel ashamed.
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Hameed
Nov 10, 2013 10:38pm
I think instead of this small issue, Kiyany must come up with a Strong practical reply with full fledged military operation to the recent TTP statement who openly challenge Pak Army and Government of Pakistan. That's the real issue where all are muted.
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Hameed
Nov 10, 2013 10:47pm
I think instead of this small issue, Kiyany must come up with a Strong practical reply with full fledged military operation to the recent TTP statement who openly challenge Pak Army and Government of Pakistan. That's the real issue where all are muted.
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Mohammad Ashraf
Nov 10, 2013 10:55pm
I do agree with ISPR's condemnation of JI Chief regarding his views about TTP Chief Hakimullah Mehsud. With his narrow perception, it won't be appropriate to deal with existing religious political parties in order to seek resolution for peace. They see things from their conservative version of the faith and if gain power, will turn Pakistan into a theological state, not favourable for its minorities as well as not compatible with secular word.
JI chief should revisit the issue and evaluate what damage Hakimullah Mesued had caused to innocent people and then declare he should be regarded as martyr or not .
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ahmed
Nov 10, 2013 10:48pm
I am glad the military finally spoke up. It would have been far, far better for democracy in Pakistan however if the civilian government had issued this statement. I would also suggest reviewing existing laws and changing them (if needed) to make such statements geared to confuse the nation on serious matters of life and death subject to severe punishment. Only then will Pakistan be able to finally put an end to the deadly mischief being carried out by these gangs.
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Syed
Nov 10, 2013 10:58pm
MMA had facilitated the intrusion of these terrorist into Sawat, Malakand Areas, but were beaten back by Army. Imran Khan is a replacement of JI, paid agent of Al Zawahri Group. He is attempting his best to accomodate rest of these terrorist in deeper parts of Pakistan, by asking for establishing offices for these terrorists in Pakistan. Instead of wasting time around these paid terrorists and their advocating agents,it would be better to advisable to start strong Army clean upoperations against these terrorists. The more we delay the more they get stronger.
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Faisal
Nov 10, 2013 11:01pm
Hence Proved...
Islam has suffered more damage because of Mullahs then by any other foreign entity.
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s malik
Nov 10, 2013 10:54pm
Munawar Hassan's statement is 100% correct. No soldier who is killed while trying to kill other Muslim brother is a shaheed. Everyone and every Taliban killed by the US are Shaheeds.
Our military is a CIA's military.
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Hassan
Nov 10, 2013 10:58pm
I was in a fit of rage after I heard this guy's remarks on TV yesterday. I'm glad that the ISPR is now going to make him publicly squirm. Fazl's next.
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Yawar
Nov 10, 2013 10:59pm
An apology at this time will not gain anything. Rather, what is needed from JI is a clear and unconditional condemnation of the TTP.
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Karachi Bhai
Nov 10, 2013 11:07pm
What better can you expect from JI and its chief.
For long time I couldn't believe that JI was against the creation of Pakistan. But what I have seen in the last few years and that the way JI supports TTP, now I can trust that JI was against Pakistan and its people as well.
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Syed IMAM
Nov 10, 2013 11:19pm
JI leader should be tried for treason
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tipu
Nov 10, 2013 11:33pm
Well said... I salute Pakistan Army!!!
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Hassan
Nov 10, 2013 11:29pm
Pakistan does't needs any enemy in the presence of these -so called- religious politicians.
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waseem
Nov 10, 2013 11:39pm
it is time to tell JI and JUI that either you are with us (pakistan) or with the terrorists (anti-pakistan)
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p r sharma
Nov 10, 2013 11:31pm
simultaneously JI should also clear their stand on Osama Bin Laden. Is he too a martyr? As per Fazl saheb whoever is killed by Americans is a martyr in Pakistan.
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Kaspar
Nov 10, 2013 11:35pm
One wonders whose side JI and others the like of JUI (F) are on, in the fight against terrorism!
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Ali Kanji
Nov 10, 2013 11:39pm
These Mullah led parties present a clear and present danger of causing confusion among a tsunami of unemployed youth. Government run on religious affiliations have hardly been successful in purporting equality. These mullahs would end up creating layers of discriminatory citizens in Pakistan. Either they are the well wishers of Pakistan or of Taliban's. Looking at the policies of the mullah parties I am ashamed to say these guys just want to be frog pf theor pond amd focus on their confused vote bank. They know its ganda hai per dhanda hai yeh.
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M. Ahmed
Nov 10, 2013 11:50pm
With due respect to all our religious scholars, I do however, agree with Army statement. Killer of innocent men, women and children could not be called Shaeed. Think before you speak, particularly when you are in a position of making a difference in peoples lives. Lets not shoot your foot in heat of condemning everything America does.
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Akram
Nov 11, 2013 12:01am
the JI is just showing itself to be the enemy of Jinnah's Pakistan, we should never for get how they opposed the creation of Pakistan either. The mask is slipping for them.
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Droned
Nov 11, 2013 12:03am
Very honest words by Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) Chief Syed Munawar Hassan, now USA funded ISPR is trying to get people's sympathy, the Army GENERAL's have always betrayed Pakistani people, first the separated East Pakistan, now the Army is working on the plan setup by western powers to disintegrate Pakistan...................Pakistan ka sirf Allah hi hafiz hay
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Amina
Nov 11, 2013 12:30am
"Mullah ki azaan aur, Mujahid ki azaan aur.."
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Mustafa
Nov 11, 2013 12:52am
Mullahs like Syed Munawar Hassan are threat to stability of Pakistan and they should be put in jail for their own safety before they become target of a Pakistani soldier or civilian who lost loved ones at the hands of butchers like Hakimullah Mehsud and his clan.
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Harinder
Nov 11, 2013 12:54am
He is an old man and can speak his heart.
The army knows how to define Hakimullah Mehsud
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khan
Nov 11, 2013 12:48am
Agree 100%
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Muhammad Usman Khan
Nov 11, 2013 12:57am
ISPR is right. Munawwar Hassan should not issue this statement. Disappointed statement from a JI chief.
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saj
Nov 11, 2013 01:11am
***It is also expected that Jamaat-i-Islami should clearly state its party position on the subject," said the ISPR statement.***
their position is clear they consider those that attack and kill the people and defenders of pakistan and want the costitution of pakistan ripped up Martyrs
how much more clearer can it be
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SaeedS
Nov 11, 2013 01:38am
It is not a shock, JI is the biggest supporter of TTP and there terrorist activities. And funny thing majority of Jamati end up in USA.
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BBB
Nov 11, 2013 01:59am
Mr. Syed Munawar Hassan, Can you please clear for you and your party the requirements for being a "Shahid"? Killing a lot of Muslims is certainly not a criteria for being declaired a martyr. I should support the ISPR-statement: You are insulting thousands of Pakistanis killed by TTPand their families.
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unbelievable
Nov 11, 2013 01:57am
Bias overcomes common sense every time. Guy is willing to walk over the backs of true martyrs just to promote anti American blather.
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Shah
Nov 11, 2013 02:14am
Our religious leaders has been confused since the British banned the old Madrassa system which was functioning for centuries in the 18th and 19th century. Gone with science and logic of Al Biruni, Muhammad Khwarezmi, Ibn Rushd and in with maulvis who know nothing of Allah's physical laws. Suited the colonialist well then and suiting the terrorists now.
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Adil
Nov 11, 2013 02:25am
Glad ISPR gave this statement against the hypocritical JI chief. The latter's remarks are a tell-tale sign that maybe the JI are a strong support system of the terrorists, which in a way, makes them complicit in the violence/killings/bombings/mass murders of innocent people.
Ugh, when will all these dangerous hypocrites just die out?!
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Raza
Nov 11, 2013 02:34am
At least an organization has the spine to stand up to Munnawwar's hurtful comments.
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atif khan
Nov 11, 2013 02:46am
Disgusting !!!
That is the only way i could put
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Akram
Nov 11, 2013 02:45am
ISPR is correct, the JI have been enemies of Pakistan since it's creation. They have insulted the shaheed that gave their lives so it's citizens could be born free. They have more in common with the terrorists than the average man. They should be arrested and punished.
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Baha-Ullah
Nov 11, 2013 02:51am
I am 200% with the ISPR statement. Just one question, If one of the victims of the senseless bombings in mosques or markets would have been the dear one of the said Maulana, then what would have been his reaction ?
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Raja
Nov 11, 2013 02:51am
Pakistan government should ban Jamaati-i-Islami party. They support terrorists.
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Idealist
Nov 11, 2013 03:11am
Thanks ISPR
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Saad Zafar
Nov 11, 2013 03:13am
Strong Statement by Pakistan Army. Good Job , it was needed
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Shahpur
Nov 11, 2013 03:16am
Historically JI is a branch of Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, and it should be banned in Pakistan, like it is banned in Egypt. This is a historical fact. Nothing else can be expected from JI, than what they have said.
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Zinger
Nov 11, 2013 03:34am
Paki's don't need enemies as long as these bearded primates are around and not in the cage.
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Hasan Syed
Nov 11, 2013 03:42am
It'd be interesting to see how Jamaat e Islami will respons... :)
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dn
Nov 11, 2013 03:55am
Munawar Hassan and Fazal both should be charged with treason, calling terrorist a martyr. these guys have no regard for hundreds of innocent people and army soldiers who gave their lives to protect us from these ruthless murderers.
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ailly
Nov 11, 2013 03:56am
whoever clerics / party leaders / scholars / Maulvi or Muftis are giving such statement(s) must be punished severely ... if they insist then present them in open court and lets make it loud and clear to all nation on what ground are they being punished ... I dont mind seeing Munawar or Fazlur Rahman or our interior Minister being stripped of whatever position they are holding and being thrown in jail with all sharia punishment in full force .... lets start here.
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Tariq
Nov 11, 2013 04:30am
Things are getting clearer it's only Allahs will, showing us who are true patriot and who never wanted creation of Pakistan in the first place
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Yankee Cricket Fan
Nov 11, 2013 04:36am
These bearded illiterates don't know jack about religion or anything else that is going on in this world. Government officials need not respond to his nonsense.
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Jay Mirza
Nov 11, 2013 04:54am
Another example of the mullahs in pakistan being devoid of any integrity or nobility. They are in the habit of using their screwed up interpretation of islamic scriptures and majority of pakistanis being uneducated and/ or uninformed follow these low-lives without using their good judgement. Its hard to see much hope there.
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Pakistani
Nov 11, 2013 05:14am
how can a person be called a Martyr who has no mercy for human being not even for the vulnerable children and women. To be a Martyr there are certain rules and conditions one has to follow...i think the Pakistani Religious Parties' Leaders need to read thoroughly the history of Islam and the description of a Martyr before they make any statement. It is an extremely PATHETIC way of gaining publicity. such statements from these Pakistani religious parties leaders have hurt the feelings of those who have lost their loved ones by the actions of these CRUEL Terrorists.
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tojo
Nov 11, 2013 05:08am
Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) Chief Syed Munawar Hassan
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ahmed
Nov 11, 2013 05:17am
It is more than an insult to the families of the shaheed. Such remarks are geared to break the morale of Pakistani soldiers as they defend the nation from the enemy. I marvel at the discipline and courage of the Pakistani soldiers who have had to do this thankless job in the face of relentless pro-taliban propaganda and disinformation not just from the molvis but from a major political figure, namely Imran Khan. The Big Lie from day one was started by none other than Gen. Musharraf himself when he declared this to be "America's War" which he was forced to fight. If there had been a man of some integrity and substance in Musharraf's place (or in place of Zardari after him), he would never have allowed these gangs of arab and central asian thugs to set foot on the sacred soil of Pakistan. And is high time Mr. Nawaz Sharif put and end to these pleas for "peace talks" and chose instead to rally the nation behind the armed forces to give "mooN tor jawab" to the taliban for vicious crimes against Pakistan.
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Akbar Sultan
Nov 11, 2013 05:17am
Everyone Listen! The wise one has spoken!
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Ussamah
Nov 11, 2013 05:59am
Shame on JI chief and shame on PTI and their followers who seem to have inherited to right to term any sane and rational person as an American agent. Lanat hai aisey hypocrites parr especially IK, you are such a big loser and a dissapointment.
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Tahir
Nov 11, 2013 06:02am
I completely agree with ISPR Statement. We are proud of our army. It has persevered while our politicians have wavered.
Let us be clear. Taliban kill innocent Pakistanis. They fight the state of Pakistan. They take funds from foreign countries and are involved in criminal activities.
Jamat's morality and values are in question now. It is siding with the killers. One now has grave doubt on even its religious understanding. Munawar Sahib, you have hurt the feelings of the entire Pakistani nation. If you have an ounce of integrity, it is high time you apologize.
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Khawar T khyam
Nov 11, 2013 06:19am
Maulana is struck between rock and hard place. What ever he said is religiously right but nationalist are taking it other way. It is very tough situation to explain whether we are secular,religious or nationalist.
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SH
Nov 11, 2013 06:25am
We need another drone strike to ensure that Maulana Munawar Hassan gets to the well deserved status of a martyr.
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sukhbir
Nov 11, 2013 06:27am
Dear Ameer Syed Munawar Hassan Sahib
I know you are elder to me in age and therefore I must respect you, so I do, but today you have made me turn my face away from you. I dare not call it "in Disgust" because then I shall be breaking my own tenet not to ever disrespect an elder.
Please for the sake of humanity and for the sake of righteousness that Allah brought to mankind via his Prophet PBUH Mohammed, do not equate Killers of mankind to martyrs for the cause of Allah.
I may an infidel Hindu but I respect the word of God and I thought you too were one of those who would never ever disown the Lord. But with your last message you have betrayed many a men's faith.
May God forgive you.
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Ayoubalamcma
Nov 11, 2013 06:49am
Mr. Hassan is known for his foul-mouthed comments. Listen to any of his interviews, he is always taunting others.
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Mirza
Nov 11, 2013 07:20am
This man like his predecessor is unstable. He is at liberty to call any body martyr or whatever but he has no right to talk about our brave soldiers who gave their lives for us for our country for our honour,
He is a depraved old man and his party together with his follwoers and partners are all dangerous . Karachites , beware of these leaders.
We condemn him and the likes .
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muhammad shahid
Nov 11, 2013 07:56am
I strongly condemned the statement of Mr.Munawar Hassan, of JI. He should keep in mind that it is the only Army who set the unprecedent examples of sacrification of their lives from the day one while the politicians are the products of Drawing Room and believe in lip-services consequently peoples of Pakistan are tired of their futile activities. Pakistan Zinda-abad- PAK ARMY ZINDA BAD.
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ali ahmed
Nov 11, 2013 08:44am
Chief of JI is a Taliban holding Pakistani passport. He has caused more harm than good to the Jamat-e-Islami. People of Pakistan are in shock and awe hearing his statements. He has no idea what he is saying and how it is hurting sentiments of millions of people of this country. There is no room for blood-shed and that in the name of Islam, which is no doubt a symbol of peace and respect for humanity. Unfortunately, those who have claimed to be its champions have left no stone unturned in damaging the image of this great religion. JI should seriously consider removing him as their chief otherwise this party will cross the point-of-no-return and will face the complete extinction in the area of politics.
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nasir
Nov 11, 2013 08:53am
These Jamat people are the biggest evil in Pakistan. Thanks God, they never get the opportunity to rule Pakistan.
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Syed Asif Zafar
Nov 11, 2013 10:23am
Syed Asif
Jeddah
It is very bad .Mr munawar should out of party.Now i belive many Islamic parties support and have link TTP type party.Realy very bad comments.Allah save pakistan
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zubair
Nov 11, 2013 10:51am
@Gerry D'Cunha:
exactly...
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SYED
Nov 11, 2013 11:56am
In any other country, a person of such profile making these statements against the armed forces, and supporting the terrorist, would be tried for treason.
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Syed Naseemuddin
Nov 11, 2013 01:45pm
i just want to say that Mr. Munawar Hassan has forgotten the sacrifices of Pakistan peoples and Army Personals during the War agaiinst the terrorism. he has no right to decide that who is Shaheed or Not.
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Ayesha Saeed Haq
Nov 11, 2013 02:00pm
JI Should be banned and he should be trialed in court against the defamation charges and promoting propaganda. People with such sentiments and views are enemies of state, they have no right to rule the parliaments of PK.
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Think Before you speak
Nov 11, 2013 01:54pm
@Droned: So in your opinion, TTP is pro-pakistan or pro-islam? They have killed unarmed civilians in mosques and churches for almost a decade now and they are the ones you choose to support.
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Think Before you speak
Nov 11, 2013 01:55pm
@Mustafa: True. This Maulvi and similar maulvis should be taken to court for misusing Islam and spreading propaganda.
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Ayesha
Nov 11, 2013 01:58pm
@Syed IMAM: Completely Agreed. He should be taken to Court Immediately.
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Think
Nov 11, 2013 02:07pm
@SaeedS: well said
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Aamir
Nov 11, 2013 02:16pm
@Droned:
I think its time for JI leadership to be handed over to BENGLADESHI'S. They will sorth them out.
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Humayr
Nov 11, 2013 04:55pm
Dear All,
JI in their offical statement reminded army not to interfare in the politics which makes Hassan statement political, further Fazal ul Rehman made the same comment but is not condemed by anyone which includes ISPR, which is surprizing, however we humans cannot catagorize any person as matyr or dead and all such catagorization would be considered as his / her own..
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shah
Nov 11, 2013 05:06pm
@Khawar T khyam:
What he said is religiously wrong also. Pakistan Army is doing the right thing in tackling fasadis and fitna like Taliban and it is in line with Shariah.
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azmat khan
Nov 11, 2013 05:53pm
@sukhbir:Thank you for your gentle comments.But you probably do not know that these so called pious and self righteous mullahs are very close to God and have every authority for issuing a verdict of their liking.They never repent over it.
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azmat khan
Nov 11, 2013 05:57pm
@Tahir:
JI opposed creation of Pakistan.Now it it opposing those who are saving Pakistan.Every body knows it is an extremist and fascist outfit. under the cloak of Islam.
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Kabir
Nov 11, 2013 06:18pm
It is high time that our government and courts take cognize of this statement and follow the path which has been adapted by Bangladeshi government and courts and immediately put ban on all so-called Islamist parties especially who are taking side with Talibans
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azmat khan
Nov 11, 2013 06:27pm
@Amina:
Deen-e-mullah fi sabeelillah fasad.
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Lakhkar Khan
Nov 11, 2013 07:58pm
Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) Chief Syed Munawar Hassan should be in jail charged with treason.
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yousafhaque
Nov 11, 2013 10:22pm
I fully agree with the sentiments and timely reaction of ISPR.Hassan's remarks are an insult to not only the 'real' martyrs but he has also injured the feelings of the living
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zaffar
Nov 11, 2013 10:38pm
One should ask how many mullah
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shah
Nov 12, 2013 01:50am
@nasir:
Unfortunately they have ruled in Pakistan. The 2002-2007 MMA government in KP and the current PTI coalition government in KP.
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Saad
Nov 12, 2013 02:47am
JI called Quaid-e-Azam as Kafir-e-Azam, Pakistan as Napakistan. No wonder they have the same attitude towards Pakistan to this day. They need to be prosecuted for treason
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Amjed Ghazanvi
Nov 12, 2013 10:55am
The ISPR quickly came out against JI Chief, However they never said a word when Lt. General Shahid Aziz (Former Chief of Joint Staff Committee) wrote, published and circulated the book, "Ye Khamoshi Kub Tak" and elaborately explained therein that War against Terrorism is actually and really a war against Islam. Being an active participant in Musharaf's policy making team he must be an authority on the the so called war against terrorism.
The only comprehensible reason behind the present uproar against JI Chief's statement is that it may effect the low category sepoys and junior officers' (real fighter's) moral and commitment. The book by Lt. General Shahid Aziz will however never reach that audience as they never read one in their life.
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muhammad
Nov 12, 2013 06:07pm
@Khawar T khyam:
You mean that Islam give the status of martyr to every mass murderer of believers subject he was killed by the any infidel force. either you have a very flawed understanding of Islam or the people like you and Munawar Hassan want to defame the Islam in the eye of whole humanity
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muhammad
Nov 12, 2013 07:56pm
@Humayr:
Munawar Hassan is not an 'any person" he is head of an extremist outfit JI and JI also owned his statement and few thousand strayed Pakistanis follow the JI head as their leader and further he uses word Mulana before his name which also a cause to deceive a lot of innocent people therefore a serious note should be taken of his statement and he along with his party should be tried in the court of law under high treason i.e. article 6 of constitution and must be hanged in public
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Nadeem (US)
Nov 12, 2013 08:56pm
JI it's an eye opener for you, How many comments are in favour of JI? None! Jamatis should ashamed of themself.
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Nadeem (US)
Nov 12, 2013 08:57pm
@Humayr:
I think you agree with this statement, "aak musalman per dusray musalman ka khoon haram hay." Specially those who are shopping in market, going to work or school or ever going to masjid for namaz and a terrorist kill those innocent people for no reason and JI chief calling head of that terririst gruop a Shaheed?If JI cheif think he is right than go in front of the families of those who died in terrorist attack and called Hakimullah shaheed.
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khanzh
Nov 12, 2013 09:26pm
@zaffar:
They all have US or UK citizenships.
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Nadeem (US)
Nov 12, 2013 09:31pm
@s malik:
Malik sahab, Do you think those who are killing innocent poeple, when they die, they are shaheed? If you say yes, than you are not aware of Isalm, our religion says, "aak musalman per dusray musalam ka khoon HARAM hay." In your openion those who are doing HARAM kam they are shaheed." Think about it, if you are honest, ask this question to yourself.
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Hamid Ali Tabatabai
Nov 12, 2013 09:54pm
Isnt he the same guy who on an interview said that Rape victims should remain silent as this is what Quran wanted?
Unfortunately he is a politician and in his mind he believe what he says has popular appeal in Pakistan. I truly hope he is wrong.
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Munawar Khan
Nov 12, 2013 11:40pm
@Amjed Ghazanvi:
shahid aziz stated his own view as a person but this fe sabilillah fasad Maulana is heading a Political party in the name of Islam and also giving fatwa bazi....He had done just a Master degree having no religious back ground and now changing the definition of Islamic terminologies to 180 degree. An Open killer who Blew Masajid, Imambargah, Churches and destroy a common Man property and he is saying that terrorist a Shaheed.
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Sadaqat
Nov 12, 2013 11:49pm
Dr Iqbal wisely said (Deen e Mulla Fe Sabeel illah Fasad).
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Subhani Younas
Nov 13, 2013 12:01am
Please correct the remark showing in every media source that they never hurt the families of Shaheed but they Hurt Each and Every Pakistani The Whole Pakistani Nation is the loved one of These Shuhada....They are our real assets in this world and in Akhirat as well
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Subhani Younas
Nov 13, 2013 12:07am
@Humayr: it is the policy of JI to use different faces at different occasions. They created the party on the name of Islam not in the name of Democracy and this person has done a masters degree and giving fatwas like He is an Aalim. They are playing with Islam,
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Raja
Nov 13, 2013 04:13am
We should declare Jihad against all these so called Mullahs.
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nawazkhan
Nov 13, 2013 04:45am
@zaffar:
you will be surprised - huge numbers. JI is party of highly educated, cannot call them just mullahs. just look at the demand of TTP, would like to have sharia laws! what's wrong with it. these folks are better practicing muslims.
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Danish
Nov 13, 2013 09:09am
Amir ul Munafiqeen, Mullah Munawar not only be booked on treason charges but also be treated with IRON HAND so become an example for people who "Bad Mouth" for Pak Army and our martyrs.
Ship him to Afghanistan or India.
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Humayr
Nov 13, 2013 11:27am
@Amjed Ghazanvi:
JI is actually contesting against the army which is not practiced by any other party, I m surprised they built up some guts.
I also believe that the war is not against the terrorism but it is against the ideology,the ideology behind Afghan Taliban the real mujahids is believed to overcome all technology lackness and will win on ground merit, the uncertainity factor is the key as no one can actually predic how much capable talibans are in their gorrilla attacks, this element of surprise is not acceptable to the super powers.
Therefore this war on ideology will not end untill we decide "sab say pehlay Pakistan Ya Sab sy pehlay Islam".
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AGN
Nov 13, 2013 12:10pm
This isn't the first time JI has shown its true colors. Hassan and his cohorts should be tried for treason and exiled to Afghanistan to live with their 'brothers'.
Long live Pakistan Army! You are the ones who have laid your lives for this country and only you are our martyrs.
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Arham
Nov 13, 2013 03:15pm
Munawwar Hassan has not issued any Fatwa.
He has said that if a US soldier --- who fights against Afghan Taliban --- is not a Shaheed then what do you call those who die while supporting US against Afghan Taliban?
Before you answer this question, keep in mind that suicide attacks and bomb blasts started after Pak army's operation in 2004. OR In other words, TTP has started attacking military installments after the operation.
Please reply to this question with some rationality first and then you are most welcome to use different adjectives to describe my mentality. Thank-you.
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dada
Nov 13, 2013 03:09pm
If you have been making all kinds of killers and marauders your heroes, e.g., Ghori, Abdali, Nadir Shah, Babar etc, then what is wrong in calling HakimUllah a shahid and hero? The natives who fought against those brutes you do not call as your heroes or call their deaths as shahadat, the naturally today your soldiers cannot be called shahid.
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Gerry D'Cunha
Nov 13, 2013 04:52pm
these hyprocrate religious leaders who blame america for all bad deeds are the one who's either business interest or their families have close ties with america - they know how to fool their innocent people to gain sympathy in the name of islam
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Arham
Nov 13, 2013 09:44pm
@Hamid Ali Tabatabai:
Can you please give reference of that interview?
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salman
Nov 13, 2013 09:58pm
@sukhbir:
respect seriously? I have ABSOLUTELY ZERO respect for anyone regardless of age who is against humanity and encourages hate, destruction and intolerance!! ZERO respect BURN in hell hope your beard catches fire!
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