Modi urges Pakistan to show more ‘seriousness’ for talks
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UNITED NATIONS: Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi while speaking at the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) on Saturday expressed his country's willingness to hold bilateral talks with Pakistan, but “without a shadow of terrorism.”
He said that Pakistan must show more ‘seriousness’ and must create an “appropriate environment” for holding peace dialogue with their South Asian neighbours.
Modi was making his first speech to the UN General Assembly since taking power in May.
Modi invited his Pakistani counterpart Nawaz Sharif to his inauguration but India in August withdrew from planned talks between their foreign secretaries as Pakistan wanted to consult first with separatists in the disputed region of Kashmir.
In his UN address Friday, Nawaz criticised India's withdrawal from the talks as a “missed opportunity.”
India and Pakistan have fought two of their three wars over the divided Himalayan region of Kashmir since independence in 1947.
“I do want to hold bilateral talks with them but it is also the duty of Pakistan to come forward and create an appropriate atmosphere,” Modi said, according to a translation of his comments made in the Hindi language.
He objected to Pakistan raising the dispute over the talks at the UN, saying it raised questions about their seriousness. Modi said the priority now should be cooperation to aid victims of flooding in Kashmir that has killed hundreds on both sides.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:23pm
A leader.india is lucky to have him
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Sep 27, 2014 08:24pm
Pakistan was a couple of sentences mention in his speech. Got a standing ovation. My PM rocks !!! Love you bro !!!
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Sep 27, 2014 08:26pm
Mr. Modi seriousness is not to compromise on ground realities. If you are not serious on resolving the core issues how can you expect the other side to be serious.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:29pm
Jai Ho Modi Ji...Loved your speech at UNGA. You are indeed a world class leader... Hats off to you sir.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:31pm
"without a shadow of terrorism."...look who is saying: a man behind Gujrat Muslim's massacre!!!!
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Sep 27, 2014 08:32pm
Mr Modi's speech was good. But he has no idea who to talk to in Pakistan. Do Pakistanis who run their country?
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Sep 27, 2014 08:34pm
Respected Modi Sahib, may i draw your attention over the old saying that "You can make some people fool for some times but not all the people for all the time. Kind regards to you and to your advisers on foreign affairs.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:35pm
modi sir you are our hero,proud to be Indian...bravo sir...what replay to nawaz sharif.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:36pm
Modi show the mirror not only pakistan but usa also, beware both.......
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Sep 27, 2014 08:36pm
Lion roared in UN :) what a speech man.. Love you MODI
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Sep 27, 2014 08:37pm
It is unfortunate that a forum like the UN is being used to wash dirty linen in public. Mian Nawaz Sharif is unable to hold on to his own seat and talks about emancipation of others. An FIR is being filed against him while he is in the US. Is it not domestic compulsions that force him to raise the Kashmir dispute? And lets be fair, yes there is a dispute but that stretches on both sides of the de-facto border. We have fought wars, with no result. Let us try economic development and prosperity, perhaps the world needs happy citizens.....lets pursue happiness, peace, goodwill and brotherhood will follow!
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Sep 27, 2014 08:37pm
You can't instigate terror on one hand and on other hand negotiate on that basis.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:41pm
Pakistan has been fighting a war against terrorism for a decade, what else indian priminister wants to continue dialogue on kashmir issue? its only a dialogue war, neither india nor pakistan wants to adopt a pragmatic approach to settle the dispute
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Sep 27, 2014 08:46pm
Bravo!!!
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Sep 27, 2014 08:46pm
Look who is talking. His credentials,
1. Murdered of thousand of Muslims in State of Gujurat where he was a Chief Minister of the State.
2. Leader of a country which has committed genocide in Kashmir killing man and raping their women through their 500,000 well armed Army.
3. Defied UN resolution on Referendum for the people of Kashmir.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:49pm
Great leader, Great speech. PM Modi has just announced his arrival on international Scene, in more ways than one. Folks, sit back and see where he's going to go from here and take India along. Kudos to you Sir.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:50pm
why i came to read this news on dawn despite indian media being overflowing with this same news .
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Sep 27, 2014 08:50pm
Let the comments begin!
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Sep 27, 2014 08:51pm
With love and resspect he replied to Mr. Nawaz criticisum , neither any pakistani or indian take land along with him when leave earth , i request both the leaders lest compramise something and find solution which can bring happiness all the parties .
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Sep 27, 2014 08:54pm
Guys accept the reality India and Pak can never be friends atleast in our generation. Lets figure out the space where both countries work without much friction and try to avoid future wars.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:57pm
good speech, he didn't criticize Pakistan but said that Pakistan need to take appropriate measure for talks to be constructive buy which he mean that issue of jammu & Kashmir is bilateral not multilateral
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Sep 27, 2014 08:59pm
A very good speech
I expect dawn to portray the complete speech of Modi
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Sep 27, 2014 09:02pm
It is so unfortunate, with so many problems going on around the world - with ISIS, Israel-Palestinians conflict, etc., Pakistan and India should accept the fact that not addressing their differences will not make them go away, neither will any military confrontation. Both countries should stop supporting extremists from instigating terror and instead, should strive for peaceful resolution. We have seen, time and again, war does not solve any problems. I am hoping common sense will prevail and our countries rid themselves of this false belief that might is always right and causing harm to another country shows our strength and courage. Our people have a lot more in common then what divides us. Let us build on our similarities and bury our differences.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:05pm
eye wash
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Sep 27, 2014 09:06pm
" no such thing as good terrorism and bad terrorism" very true statement by modi. Pakistan should eliminate all types of terrorists from its soil and not let anti Indian terrorists thrive. Because sooner or later they will turn on Pakistan. This will help the india pakistan relationship.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:10pm
Wow what a graceful leader. You rock Modi.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:14pm
Ashtagfarullah!!
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Sep 27, 2014 09:15pm
Nice speech.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:15pm
Our prime minister's one step to make India to a global leaders
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Sep 27, 2014 09:16pm
India Pakistan hv some other serious issues. India trying hard to be part of world leadership and will do it soon. Pakistan still begging for everything in front of world community. Please think deep and take help from India to grow. Fight for food, education and other basic issues rather than Kashmir. Please improve now b4 it become too late.
Truly speaking some stupid so called religious maulanas and army leaders influence you and get their food and attention bcos of uneducated poor people.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:16pm
No to terrorism. Let peace prevail.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:19pm
I think we need tobe serious in dealing with Indi unfortunately, army in pakistan has conflicting interests and won't let it happen.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:24pm
Another slap on Pakistans face.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:29pm
Insincere to the core!
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Sep 27, 2014 09:29pm
That's how you deliver a speech, it all comes together and paints a clear picture if you truly believe in what you say...there is'nt another politician like him in India, in South Asia...now i think even the whole World....
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Sep 27, 2014 09:29pm
The speech of Modi is historic. His spoke about global problem and how it can be addressed.Only 2 mints of his 30 mints speech was aboutt pakistan india relationship that too in affirmative.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:30pm
Repeated stale rhetoric from both sides...can they ever say something original in such speeches?
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Sep 27, 2014 09:37pm
Countries should not go after territory but their priority should be to keep people peaceful and prosperous , if they cannot guarantee peace and prosperity of the people within their territory what hope can they provide to other people who may want to join them but see no hope once done as their status may be worse than current one.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:38pm
When leader speaks world listens.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:40pm
May be Pakistan motto is you loose two eyes I dont mind loosing one
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Sep 27, 2014 09:40pm
@Abhishek - Good thoughts!
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Sep 27, 2014 09:43pm
He spoke in Hindi and that's awesome
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Sep 27, 2014 09:43pm
Proud to have pm like you:)))
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Sep 27, 2014 09:47pm
@jahan m
Muslas shld get taste of their own meds
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Sep 27, 2014 09:48pm
Pakistan is not able to save its own people and wants to look away from that issue and wants Kashmir to join Pakistan too.
They will create a mess of kashmir too and kashmiris will become pawn to all these elements already ruling aam janta in Pakistan, Pakistan is a sinking ship and does not have enough life boats for their own people to survive , what hope can they give to kashmiris if they mount on that ship , they too will definitely drown.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:49pm
I agree with @Ghuman.... Indeed he is a great leader.... and Indians are lucky to have him.... also hope some day we get good leadership too....
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Sep 27, 2014 09:50pm
@fida sayani Only Pakistan is saying his and no-one listening..keep shouting
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Sep 27, 2014 09:58pm
Guys hate begets hate.....more than half of you commenting here will not understand this. The more you hate and spread it....more it will come back and effect you. Chill man.........!!
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Sep 27, 2014 10:00pm
@fida sayani
Thanks for your backward looking. It could have been better if you have forward looking.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:01pm
Time for all countries in the world to unite and wipe this monster of terrorism and should start with south Asia as it is the hub and fountain head of all terror groups and ideologies .
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Sep 27, 2014 10:01pm
Mr. Moodi seems to be a very cultured man. with respect he indicated what has to be done in order to find coming grounds. No blame no cynicism. He will bring India even more forward.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:05pm
@jahan Was it proved ever ?. Have you or any of your near-dear seen it with their own eyes ?. If not then why to believe gossips ?. Modi is the best statesman South Asia has seen in past several decades. Accept it.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:06pm
Great leader, even though not mine.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:07pm
@Himanshu
We should learn to think beyond Pakistan and reach out to world powers to galvanize our economy and uplift the poor of our country into the realm of middle class...
in 21st century pakistan is of no relevance to India....
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Sep 27, 2014 10:09pm
@asif Pakistan chose to talk to Hurriyat jokers rather than India. Your Ambassador was informed that either Pakistan can talk to India or to Hurriyat but your country chose to ruin the talks as well as the warm relation that Modi had tried to establish with your PM.
Get your facts straight before blaming Indians for everything.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:10pm
Modi your words will be heard because they(complete west) all want India on there side but they used Pakistan for terrorism only by negating system and exploiting individual and that is called smart intelligence.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:11pm
Modi: but “without a shadow of terrorism.”
Na hoga nau man tel, na Radha nachegi.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:11pm
Pakistan is bombarding his own people. That could be first instance when a country using airforce for his own people. They should request India for their merger and be the part of progress and change the world is undergoing today.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:12pm
@jahan har jagah muslim k sath hi galat kyu dikhta h tumhe..muslims are also humans and others too.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:14pm
So far we are not serious or sincere to ourself how can we show seriousness to India.Relax Modi we are sleeping .
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Sep 27, 2014 10:15pm
@fida sayani sorry I don't think you have any Idea about Modi. Let it be, but I have understood & I think every Indian feels that there is no point in talking to Pakistan, or If I may say so to expect some sense from Pakistan.
India go on development path, just ignore the insignificant Pakistan.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:15pm
@jahan How can you say that? Do you have any proof or just making mind through any media report?
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Sep 27, 2014 10:16pm
@fida sayani 1) Where you there in Gujarat ? If not, why believe nonsense then ?. 2) Again why worry about Kashmir. Think about NWFP, Shias, Ahamaddiyas, Hazaras first ? 3) UN Referendum ?. Read about Shimla Agreement & Lahore declaration.
Get your facts right and you would be surprised how wrong your understanding is.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:17pm
Kudos to Modi. sorry to say, but I think we should ignore Pakistan & move towards development path. they don't even deserve attention from our side.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:19pm
@UJ There was no ovation, let alone standing. Where did you dream about? The only two praise worthy things in Modi's address were that he asked for G-All so that all countries including Pakistan have an equal say and that he used Hindi in his address. Nawaz too should have used Urdu instead of English.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:19pm
The Indian PM also mentioned that some countries are helping and harboring terrorists.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:19pm
Seriousness for talks? Sir jee it was you who cancelled foreign secretaries talks. And Pakistan is non-serious?
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Sep 27, 2014 10:23pm
@NN His English is awful....
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Sep 27, 2014 10:23pm
@fida sayani he replied No place for UN in Kashmir talk. Period
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Sep 27, 2014 10:27pm
Do we have a right to reply? We must remove the label of terrorism Modi has subtly pinned on Pakistan and mention his own role in 2002 riots in Gujrat.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:32pm
Indians are willing to conduct plebiscite on joining with Pakistan to form akhand (great) Bharat.. Why just Kashmir my dear brothers. Guess this is a better deal than just Kashmir.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:34pm
Oh Really! LOL :)
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Sep 27, 2014 10:36pm
Hogaya Kaam. Pakistan has no place to puts his head. See from next year UN missions, Pakistan will have no words to speak on Kashmir. All doors shut from international arena also.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:36pm
I wonder why he doesn't mention his Gujrat terrorism where he ordered to kill innocent Indian Muslim men/women/children.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:37pm
Look, how many Indians out there commenting in here...
Amazing isn't it?
Dawn is probably the best new paper in South Asia.
Coming back to India vs Pakistan in UN. It's quite predicatble. Nothing in it.
I do not see any improvement in relationship between India and Pakistan.
Unless Pakistan keep making concessions as they see it.
It's got to be trade. Putting Kashmir in the back burner. This is what modi expects things to be.
Unfortunately, Pakistan is not doing good economically.
So, as things stand its going to there is not much progress or improvement in relationship with Pakistan. Things are going to harden in India and subsequently in Pakistan as well.
I hope I am proved wrong.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:41pm
What a leader and what a speech. He is taking INDIA to next level. We are lucky to have leader like you.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:43pm
@jahan - Lets move on from Godhra.. at least we Indians are not raking up all your antics in India.. we are a matured nation and if you show some willingness, we will go an extra mile.. but please stop harping on Godhra riots all the time.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:45pm
@asif exactly.. thats what India's foreign office realized.. and stopped the talks.. when Pakistani ambassador met the Hurriyat.. his government is not like other government who were fooled by Pakistan.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:46pm
@fida sayani u r telling wht u r textbooks r saying u need some genuine study
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Sep 27, 2014 10:49pm
@zak and you are dud to the core.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:49pm
@fida sayani
Look who is talking??
The world is listening to him.
Do you have any idea that Pakistan has become nothing more than a joke for international community?
Ask ur fellow dual citizenship holders in west. They will tell you the real story. Forget about azadi of Kashmir first get clear with your 'Naya' and 'Purana' Pakistan theory - whatever it means!!
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Sep 27, 2014 10:55pm
How could one ask someone to be serious when he and all of his predecessors have never been serious since last 67 years?
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Sep 27, 2014 10:56pm
Peace guys is bigger then any ego or political scoring
Let's say no to racism
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Sep 27, 2014 11:00pm
@jahan dude live a life , there are more muslims killed in the world in the name of Islamic terrorism
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Sep 27, 2014 11:01pm
It seems to me that a very poor translator was used by Whoever, to translate Indian P.M.' speech at the United Nations.
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Sep 27, 2014 11:07pm
@ankur I hear u brother !
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Sep 27, 2014 11:12pm
@fida sayani What abt thousands of ppl killed by Muslims all over..?
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Sep 27, 2014 11:25pm
@fida sayani Do you know the actual UN resolution on Kashmir or just parroting what is taught to you?
I tell you...As per UN resolution on Kashmir, Pakistan must vacate and call back its people ( regular army or tribesmen) from the complete state of Jammu and Kashmir. Also move back all those who are non resident of state of Kashmir and hand over the administration to Indian government,
Once it is established that the situation is conducive enough that a fair atmosphere is created, then only referendum can be done.
Here is the complete link.
http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/RES/47(1948)
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Sep 27, 2014 11:33pm
no matter what our neighbours say - ( modi) , he is a man who has the backing of his country does nawaz has
we are proud of aur pm , do pakistanis invest any hope or pride in nawaz.
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Sep 27, 2014 11:47pm
@fida sayani
Please read UN resolution. It says plebiscite will only be held after Pakistan withdraws from their portion..please vacate and will hold plebiscite..
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Sep 27, 2014 11:47pm
@ankur you must be disillusioned wondering how sweet is the grass on the side
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Sep 28, 2014 12:02am
@Dip I think by this he means the west
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Sep 28, 2014 12:04am
@J keep living in bollywod world.
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Sep 28, 2014 12:33am
Modi should be worried about the Summons issued for him for his role in the carnage of 2002 Gujrat riots.
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Sep 28, 2014 12:39am
Good for India - hope he walks the talk. make peace with people of Pakistan, govt will follow!
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Sep 28, 2014 12:40am
@J. Singh : If you had listened to Mr Modi's impromptu, extempore speeches given to the ISRO scientists in fluent English, you would not have dared to say that 'His English is awful'.
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Sep 28, 2014 01:06am
@Chodopak in very bad taste
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Sep 28, 2014 01:08am
PLEASE. WE do not want to confederate withPak or have anything to do with it
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Sep 28, 2014 01:11am
@John But he has not received any summons yet!!
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Sep 28, 2014 01:37am
damn he's got a brilliant mind..!! if you hear the whole speech carefully, you'll find out that he has put his points in a very very shrewd and intelligent manner.. he exposed Pakistan by saying- “some nations use terrorism as strategic assets" then, he humiliated Pakistan on humanitarian front by saying India offered help to Pakistan during floods.. he tacitly attacked Chinese naval expansion in SCS and IOR without even mentioning the word “China". he said the UN should be reformed to accommodate the changed global power balance i.e. give India permanent UN seat.. and the icing on the cake- He didn't mension the K word even once in the speech, thereby cementing India's position that Kashmir is no longer a issue for the UN to discuss... Genius.. PURE GENIUS..!!
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Sep 28, 2014 01:40am
@John oh I am so scared!!!!!!!!. Summons issued by whom and on whose saying?
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Sep 28, 2014 01:43am
@Abhishek ....
Totally agree.
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Sep 28, 2014 01:45am
@Tanveer Ahmed Chattaha Please be clear. Which side?
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Sep 28, 2014 01:52am
PM Nawaz Sharif is not equipped for any international dialogue or capable of resolving any issues including Kashmir... Even the Indians know how the Prime Minister was engaging in his personal business activities along with his son during an official visit to India... he needs to first resolve the basic issues in Pakistan before he can be taken seriously anywhere else in the world. This event has been an eye-opener for Pakistan's standing in the International community.
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Sep 28, 2014 02:20am
Mr Moody whats the definition of seriousness ?
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Sep 28, 2014 02:21am
@ghuman we have IK .
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Sep 28, 2014 02:22am
@on the way of progress you mean he was saying in directly as"go nawaz go "
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Sep 28, 2014 02:25am
It would be good, when both India and Pakistan cool down for the sake of peace. It was a diplomatic blunder, when the Pakistan Embassy in New Delhi invited the Kashmiri leaders just few days before the start of the bilateral talks. These Kashmiri leaders are known for their extreme opposition to the Govt. of India. This was not a wise decision of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Pakistan. It created irritation on the Indian side. Unfortunately the Indian side overreacted and cancelled the talks, which were prepared extensively by both sides. We should look positively for the future and try to achieve peace between the two countries. PM Modi is correct, when he emphasizes the need of "appropriate environment" for peace negotiation.
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Sep 28, 2014 02:57am
We felt like a leader is talking..leader of a developing world!! Proud of you Mr. Modi!!
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Sep 28, 2014 03:04am
Shadow of terrorism is it? ummm did mukti bahni in 1970's and gujrat massacre ever come under this "shadow of terrorism"? oh how the sighted cannot see all of a sudden.
wait a few years this man will start the hegemonic corporate style in india and of course there will be no "shadow" of anything
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Sep 28, 2014 03:06am
Nawaz Sharif should be commended for bringing Kashmir back to International attention. Secretary General asked for a meeting with Nawaz to discuss Kashmir. Joe Bidden has done the same. Modi looked out of place and no one took him seriously. Another hypocrite. But Kashmir is coming for plebiscite. Some on this forum will have to deal with it. too bad.
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Sep 28, 2014 03:21am
@Ramesh If he had self pride he would have cancelled the visit.First denied US Visa and then issued with US Federal Court Summon to paper tiger.Close your eyes as Indian Head of State PM is issued with Federal US Court summon.
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Sep 28, 2014 03:48am
@asif Do you considered yourself in 1st or 2nd category.
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Sep 28, 2014 03:52am
@J. Singh so is his French Tamil Spanish etc .... The fact is he chose to represent the country in the UNO in the native language
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Sep 28, 2014 03:54am
Modi talks about these loft ideas, a vision of development and uplifting from poverty. For 67 years People of Kashmir have lived in oppression, under the tyrannical rule of Indian Military. We all know Democratic elections are a sham and the so called government has little or no power. There are 70 Million people in India who live under draconian AFSPA law with very limited rights. What has Mr. Modi proposed to restore those people's fundamental rights of dignity, honor and freedom? His talk would make much more sense if would address the rights of People of Kashmir, Nagaland, Assam, Mizoram, Tripura, Manipur, Meghalaya, Assam.
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Sep 28, 2014 04:04am
@John Summons have to be served on Mr. Modi but as he enjoys full diplomatic immunity there is no way anyone can do that. And if some one foolishly tries (to get $10,000 prize announced) he may be shot dead by the Secret Service and the Indian Commandos in his security detail, before he even reaches within 50' of Mr Modi.
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Sep 28, 2014 04:18am
He said that Pakistan should not have raised the issue here. Just goes to show India just wants to put a veil on issues so they are not visible internationally.
The people of Kashmir are not with India and that is what matters. You cannot go against the law of the nature. Sooner or later Kashmir will either be free or will be part of Pakistan.
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Sep 28, 2014 04:35am
@fida sayani
how ill informed you are and hence this ignorance does reflects in general public
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Sep 28, 2014 05:22am
Wish we also had a strong & decisive leader in Pak.
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Sep 28, 2014 05:30am
The next four years are crucial in the history of Pakistan. Unfortunately, MNS is no match to Modi. We will have to get someone else to lead us or we will get pushed in such a hole we might never come out of.
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Sep 28, 2014 05:36am
One thing is very clear from Modi's speech. Pakistan doesn't figure much in the scheme of things India wants to focus on..!! It would be the case until some stability is seen in Pakistan.
It would be good if our diplomats read the signals right and get their act together. Not only are we being shunned by the rest of the world, we are being isolated within South Asia..!!
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Sep 28, 2014 06:08am
What a contrast to the speech delivered by Mr. Sharif. Mr. Modi was smartly discreet not to address Pak in the same manner as Mr. Sharif described India.
When will the People of Pak understand that raising the Kashmir issue every year at UNGA for three minutes is NOT going to resolve anything or get Pak anything. Last 67 years have not. Next 67 years will not.
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Sep 28, 2014 06:16am
Dawn mentions that India and Pakistan have fought 3 wars. In fact there have been 4. Lets not conveniently leave out Kargil. Hundreds of soldiers died on either side. Hundreds of widows and orphans were created.
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Sep 28, 2014 06:26am
For how long conceal the fact, for how long would make the childish false excuses and for how long to get the shallow appreciations??? The leaders are supposed to be brave and brave in facing realities of life not to gain time into that way. Grow up dear, grow up, If i am permitted let me quote Iqbal that " Such keh doon ay Brahman Gr tooo Bura Na Manay- Tairay Sanam kdon k buuut ho gae puranay. Love to Kashmiris
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Sep 28, 2014 06:46am
@Simran Kaur Important is your own language NOT English. Isn't it?
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Sep 28, 2014 07:10am
@jahan you aren't aware of facts just writing w/o having any understanding.
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Sep 28, 2014 07:31am
@Abhishek Bundela you are absolutely right. Who is actually in control?
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Sep 28, 2014 07:39am
Modi: but “without a shadow of terrorism.”
Modi Sahab, that utopia in the sub continent, however desirable, is at least decades away. A sincere effort to curtail terrorism on part of Pakistan should be acceptable.
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Sep 28, 2014 08:03am
Cant we just give Kashmir freedom. Who cares anyway? They don't want to be with either side and its become a bane for the relationships of both countries. Its like fighting for siachen
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Sep 28, 2014 08:06am
@Simran Kaur It is not necessary to be fluent in English to be a great leader. Lots of readers like you and I may be very fluent in English but cannot aspire to be PM of a country.
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Sep 28, 2014 08:09am
@UJ
I heard the speech live, translated in English. Not a good public speaker. Does not manage his hands and fingers well -- frequently sticking his index finger into air in an accusatory fashion! Needs effective public speaking coach.
Parts of the speech are okay, content wise. On environment, he sounded hollow. His Environment Minister said last week that India will ignore international recommendations!
There was no ovation, only polite clapping. At least half of the seats were empty. some delegates even yawned.
I am not an Indian or Pakistani, but I love India and its tolerant society.
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Sep 28, 2014 08:30am
Pot calling the cattle black.
Excuses excuses and nothing more. Indian obsession of Pakistan is a laughing stock.
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Sep 28, 2014 08:32am
@Rahul ::: he is flying high these days, and the law of the nature is whatever goes up must come down!!!
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Sep 28, 2014 08:34am
@fida sayani :-the unfortunate Riots in Godhra happened because some Muslim Fundamentalists in Godhra set fire to a train carrying 85 Pilgrims and burnt them to death beyond recognition.The retalliation was spontaneous and Modi has nothing to do with the same.He was hounded and tried in a dozen Courts in India at the instance of Sonia Gandhi,who is his staunch opponent,but no Court could find a shred of evidence against him,and they were forced to release him.In fact,in the Police firings that followed the Riots,at least 350 Hindus were also killed by the Police.So,you see,unfortunate riots did take place(they often take place in India and Pakistan),we are not hiding it!but Modi is in no way responsible for the riots.
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Sep 28, 2014 08:34am
The responses are Flooded with Indians. Dawn does a good job allowing all to share their opinion. Not sure if. Any indian news site would so such a thing, perhaps why so many Indians are here.
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Sep 28, 2014 08:38am
@Raja Hindustani ::: one day like all other humans he'll die, then he'll brought to Justice - please i'll ask all Hindustani's to support him that day as well.
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Sep 28, 2014 08:46am
I verymuch doubt there will be talks with India. It was the bjp leadership sometime back wanted to nuke Pakistan off the world map, to imagine that they will talk with us now is dreaming under the influence. The recently cancelled sec. level talks point the way. With time there will be other requirements,like right now no terroism for talking then somethig even worse and so on.
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Sep 28, 2014 08:46am
@fida sayani Wow... Such a Biased Statement. Was he convicted? Indian court has power to blame leaders even though they are in Power.. Can your court do the same for people who force conversion. if your faith is so strong let people accept it.. Why force them and kill them... Is it taught by any GOD? Wake up Biased people .. Muslims have rights to become PM/ President of India. No Country give this right to Minority... May be as a Muslim you will always believe in Secular world where Muslims are in Minority and Sharia wherever Muslims are in Majority... Ever you thought why so??
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Sep 28, 2014 08:49am
@asif dear asif. the saying goes...."Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqder se pehle
Khuda bande se khud pooche bata teri raza kya hai"... moral of the story is who is in the right path of bulandi. Not trying look down but you have to realize that Pakistan needs to move in that direction as well, economically, technologically and education wise and the world will notice.
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Sep 28, 2014 08:49am
@yugal She only reads Newspaper and her school text books where only one thing is taught.... HATE HINDU and INDIA.. that's how they teach people... BRAINWASHED
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Sep 28, 2014 08:49am
@yugal ::: don't want to spoil you guys party, but soon we all find out The Truth when we all brought to Justice - trust me that Day you are not going to support this PM you'll be more worried about yourself!!!
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Sep 28, 2014 08:54am
@Akram How about Indian ambassador having a talk with the Balochi leaders in the Indian embassy ?
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Sep 28, 2014 08:55am
Modi will wield broom and will clean the streets himself to start the clean India campaign Oct 2. All the ministers are cleaning the streets using broom to build the momentum. A leader who does what he says can be trusted. Pakistan should use a golden opportunity as next leader of India may not be as decisive as Modi.
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Sep 28, 2014 08:58am
@fida sayani Keep on ranting. NO ONE IN THE WORLD cares. LOL
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Sep 28, 2014 09:09am
@Dawnn- His comments are- "We want to promote friendship with Pakistan too, but we can only talk without the shadow of terrorism over us". But why have you omitted the most relevant detail?- "without shadow of terrorism"
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Sep 28, 2014 09:13am
Seriously? How much serious. :-)
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Sep 28, 2014 09:36am
Indians are happy and that's good. All past is forgotten. You can forget History but you cannot forget Geography. So who sits on your Western Borders. Rather than just trying to please USA try winning hearts in Pakistan and lead the way for a better future.
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Sep 28, 2014 09:43am
@Mike very serious
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Sep 28, 2014 10:02am
Pakistan spend all his energy, savings (Money), army, politics, just to keep the kashmir issue live at the cost of destruction in their own country poor progress, terror become for pakistan itself which was promoted by. Pakistand administraion what did you gain by all this look at the condition of pakistan...
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Sep 28, 2014 10:04am
Mr Modi rocks!!!
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Sep 28, 2014 10:13am
@UJ Bro ?? Seriously ??
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Sep 28, 2014 10:25am
@fida sayani : Your last 2 points has nothing to do with Modi as he is a first time elected PM and thats too 3 months back. Hence your comment has no value. Think before you write.
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Sep 28, 2014 10:54am
@asif .same applied to u sir..
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Sep 28, 2014 11:00am
@fida sayani Come into real world. Conspiracy theories not good.
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Sep 28, 2014 11:00am
@Sandeep The only sane voice from India.
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Sep 28, 2014 11:00am
HELLO WORLD. ......
I am true muslim and I really respect supreme court of India
As we all know that PM Modi is not guilty....than why everyone pointing out him as Gujarat Riots mastermind.
PM Modi is really doing a good work.I want to say guys leave this hindu-Muslim concept. ..respect everyone
I love India.
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Sep 28, 2014 11:06am
@J. Singh English is secondary.. primary things are common sense, vision, selflessness and ability to manage diverse people.... I think Modi has enough of primary things ...
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Sep 28, 2014 11:06am
@J. Singh English is secondary.. primary things are common sense, vision, selflessness and ability to manage diverse people.... I think Modi has enough of primary things ...
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Sep 28, 2014 11:17am
Actually India and Pakistan both do not want to resolve the issue of kashmir. Modi is not a great leader. if he cant speech then why he is here on PM chair. His name bears he is not a leader. Moti
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Sep 28, 2014 11:51am
@fida sayani Have you personally witnessed this or just shooting in the air like other pakistanis
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Sep 28, 2014 12:02pm
Dear Folks... Peace is the only battle worth waging for . peace is not inherited in indo pak for we are the creation hate not love.. Dear Indians and Pakistani brothers and sisters,we can change it,if we believe in peace.. it is not an easy task,it requires hard work and dedication. There are two ways of spreading light and the vision of peace: to be the candle or the mirror that reflects it.
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Sep 28, 2014 12:06pm
@jahan ,I bet you are saying this because you have heard sombody else saying this.
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Sep 28, 2014 12:26pm
@J. Singh, You seem to be more fluent in English.You can be India's PM.
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Sep 28, 2014 12:26pm
@Akram, If you guys were serious you wouldn't have chosen to talk to some out-of-circulation and irrelevant jokers.
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Sep 28, 2014 12:26pm
Modi is a poor statesman and I think there is too much disillusion ion about his capability. The U.S. is courting him because they want to use him against China. If he is serious about talks he needs to stop his countries support of terror against Pakistan.
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Sep 28, 2014 12:35pm
@Kasif ,may be John meant "samosas" but spelt it wrongly.
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Sep 28, 2014 12:37pm
@zak, Nobody will take your "comment" seriously.
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Sep 28, 2014 12:44pm
@Pradeep, for thinking, some basic INFRASTRUCTURE is required.
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Sep 28, 2014 12:53pm
@Sarah
Those with pride and ego will remain in a hole forever and subsequently blame the world for it. Common sense and clear thinking are better qualities to possess. Have a great day !
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Sep 28, 2014 01:15pm
@Abhishek your words are of profound truth and wisdom. I hope politicians on both sides of the border read your words and take them to their heart. But my concern is that the majority of people on both sides (civilians and politicians) do not see the sensibility of looking at their history and realising that their blood and DNA is the same.
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Sep 28, 2014 01:26pm
@Akram Bro get your facts right... India took initiative for the talk but your ambassador wanted to hold talk to kashmir saperatist. India told pakistan that it can either talk to India or the kashmiri saperatist. Your country chose the later. So, who is not serious.
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Sep 28, 2014 01:28pm
Heard Nawaz Sharif yesterday..and our PM Narendra Modi today...... One thing is is clear.....Pakistan PM spoke for their issue for which he is elected the Kashmir issue....Our PM spoke for our issue for which he got clear mandate which is development , creating opportunity for youth, making India a global leader, taking India to a new global height...
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Sep 28, 2014 01:43pm
So Modi says that unless we pretend there's no dispute, then we aren't serious?
Guess what moti Modi, the UN is the right forum because the UN has been already involved in Kashmir since 1948. You want the UN to forget it's own resolutions regarding Kashmir. Sorry, I value Kashmir more than I value India, and so does our PM.
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Sep 28, 2014 01:48pm
breaking talks with pakistan and then putting onus of not talking is farce but off course he is believable
with the big market india is, with dollars bulging out in their pockets; world would like him even if he was a look alike of hitler. they would believe him even if he said "mr obama is white"
he would get an ovation on that from mr obama too
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Sep 28, 2014 01:57pm
@Sarah I love the raw jealousy you always show
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Sep 28, 2014 02:01pm
Great leader.... Great speech... wish we also had some leaders like him...
This man has vision...
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Sep 28, 2014 02:35pm
@zak Plebiscite is now out of question. It would have been possible in 1960s if as per the UN Resolution, Pakistan first withdrew all troops from Kashmir including Kashmir held by them. But then after 1975, both the countries have agreed to settle all issues including border and territory issues through bilateral dialogue. Moreover, the 1980s and 1990s saw a stark rise in influx of people from Pakistan held Kashmir into the Indian held Kashmir which created a lot of tension in the region. There were riots and violence in the area against Kashmiri Hindus forcing as many as 400,000 Kashmiri Hindus to leave the region. This makes the scenario under which plebiscite was agreed as more unviable.
Also it is very difficult to imagine a country like India which is now in a strong position in the region and post Kargil and 26/11 is also enjoying the sympathy of the international community to agree to a plebiscite.
And if Pakistan is too keen on plebiscite then it should it not stage the same in Balochistan and KP?
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Sep 28, 2014 02:53pm
until an refrendum is not held in kashmir and choice is not given to them what they choose Pakistan,india or an free state there shouldn't be any talks just keep to your own borders
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Sep 28, 2014 03:02pm
@zak Do you need a toy to get out of fairy world?
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Sep 28, 2014 03:21pm
Pakistan's national security and foreign affairs adviser Sartaj Aziz has admitted that the timing of its high commissioner's meeting with the Hurriyat leaders in New Delhi ahead of the foreign secretary-level talks was "perhaps not totally right". Why is the news not published yet? Thinking about proper spin?
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Sep 28, 2014 03:22pm
@Sarah He is not there for a personal visit but as PM of India, representing 1.25 billion Indians. Personal grievance cannot sabotage relations between two countries.
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Sep 28, 2014 03:34pm
@diwakar you have enough to reply to it. As I said, Kashmir is coming to resolution-just learn to deal with it.
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Sep 28, 2014 03:42pm
@Hussain see it in a different way. Instead of asking if any Indian news channel provides such openess to people of Pak (which I am sure they do) why not make use of the platform provided by Dawn for healthy discussions?
The fact that so many Indians are trying to post comments shows that Indians want to convey their views directly. If this is being done on a platform provided by a good Pakistani news portal, so be it. Let's make constructive use of it.
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Sep 28, 2014 03:45pm
Unfortunately Modi's pitch on using UN rather than creating splinter groups like G20 etc never gets reported. There were some very good points raised by Modi but nothing apart from Kashmir gets reported in both India and Pak.
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Sep 28, 2014 04:16pm
Very nice and balance speech by Modi.Terrorism is the biggest problem the world is facing today.To wipe out terrorism is the need of the hour
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Sep 28, 2014 04:28pm
@jahan Muslims instigated it. I hope you have brains to understand that if Hindus had burned a train carrying Muslims. But I guess you don't
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Sep 28, 2014 04:32pm
@zak you are so funny. I admire your humor
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Sep 28, 2014 04:48pm
Seriousness...nice Joke Modi :D
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Sep 28, 2014 07:11pm
@jahan Highest court of India has cleared the charges.. And also That's internal matters
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Sep 28, 2014 07:19pm
@Sarah : I believe you people have not learnt relationship in this world politics. THERE ARE NO PERMANENT FRIENDS OR ENEMIES. Everything changes in this dynamic world. We have so many issues ( day in day out) with your all weather friend but we will continue to develop business relationship with them and patiently dealing with them.. Once Japan imposed sanctions on India now both Pms are best friends!
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Sep 28, 2014 08:57pm
@fida sayani which newspaper feed you suc statistics of policitcla propoganda... We can read tha paper too as funny jokes
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Sep 28, 2014 09:07pm
@Naveed we have another Malala in pak... Keep
It up buddy soemday someone will notice you
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Sep 28, 2014 09:17pm
@Sarah - Sarah, neither the summons, nor cancellation of visa happened to indian prime minister. That happened to Modi the man, who was a regional politician from india. When he became indian PM, he got a welcome call from US president, along with a loud invitation to visit USA. Moreover, US govt ridiculed the summons. That way i can go to any US court and lodge cases against every single political leaders in the world, for one reason or another. That was symbolic, a form of protest by some fringe, disgruntled elements, and lets keep it that way only.
It doesnt matter whether he has pride for himself or not. What matters is that he is proud as PM of India and that's all matters. Its not about personalities. Its about roles you play and how do you play them. He has been playing quite gracefully and effectively. So far....so good. This man is a bit different. You will realize it soon.
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Sep 28, 2014 10:11pm
@khanm - Well said. Amen.
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Sep 29, 2014 08:29am
@hocane by distinguishing between good and bad terrorists!? you got to be kidding.
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Sep 29, 2014 11:24am
@Ahmer right to reply? You may or may not have, but the question is do you or any one else have guts to question Modi's so called role in 2002 riots in Gujrat? See, if you had guts to do so you would have done it long before. It is another thing to spread lies and propaganda in media and it is totaly different ball game when you speak in international forum like UN. You will need PROOF, and if you failed to provide that you yourself will loose face. Simple.
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Sep 29, 2014 09:18pm
@Kabir For how long conceal the fact, for how long would make the childish false excuses and for how long ? The leaders are supposed to be brave and brave in facing realities of life not to gain time into that way. Grow up dear, grow up, Lot of low graded families are there boycotting the family marriage functions on pity issues. They are termed as third grade families. It may not hurt your feelings if i say that Indian Foreign Office and advisors to Modi are alike them.If i am permitted let me quote Iqbal that " Such keh doon ay Brahman Gr tooo Bura Na Manay- Tairay Sanam kdon k buuut ho gae puranay. Love to Kashmiris and Hurriyats
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Sep 29, 2014 09:30pm
@Indian Muslim Brother talking by the Ambassador with (Great) Hurriyat Leaders was illegal? If so, under which law or Geneva Convention? Lets be logical or otherwise of no use making useless cry.I dont know writting Hindi or other wise i would have quoted Iqbal for your kind perusal to whom you acknowledge. His poem was taken as your National Enthrone, that " Such keh doon ay Brahman Gr tooo Bura Na Manay- Tairay Sanam kdon k buuut (idols) ho gae puranay. It refers that after making lots of false excuses now its all absurd.
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Sep 30, 2014 07:03pm
WHAT ELSE CAN NS DO WHEN INDIA FLOODED PAKISTAN WITH WATER JUST IMAGINE THE GESTURE OF THE DUMB PM OF PAKISTAN NS SENDING MANGOES
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Sep 30, 2014 09:58pm
That my dear friend is Pakistans foreign policy to negotiate and get aid
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