FIH bans two Pakistani players for misconduct
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BHUBANESWAR: The International Hockey Federation (FIH) on Sunday put a ban on two Pakistani players for one match each, in the aftermath of Pakistan’s victory over India in the Champions Trophy Semi-Final.
The FIH U-turn on Sunday came a few hours after Hockey India chief Narinder Batra demanded an unconditional apology from Pakistan and called for strict action by the governing body.
According to DawnNews, the hockey federation has put a one match ban each on Amjad Hussain and Tauseeq Ahmed for misconduct, while Shafqat Rasool has been let off with a warning. This means the player will not be able to take part in the Champions Trophy final against Germany.
Midfielder Tauseeq has played regularly in previous matches while Amjad is the reserve goalkeeper.
Earlier the FIH had said that no action was needed against the misconduct of Pakistani players during their celebrations after winning a nail-biting Champions Trophy semi-final against India on Saturday.
After comprehensively winning the game 4-3, Pakistani players removed their shirts, started dancing in jubilation, and raised obscene gestures towards the crowd.
The initial FIH statement, as reported by Indian media, came as Pakistan coach Shahnaz Sheikh tendered an apology for wild celebrations by the players following their win which knocked out host India from the tournament.
“Shahnaz Sheikh has apologised and assured me that such behaviour will not occur again,” said a press statement by Wiert Doyer, tournament director of the Champions Trophy.
Matters seemed to have been resolved after Sheikh’s apology, even though the FIH had hinted of possible action against the Pakistani team.
“I tender my apology for what happened after the game,” Sheikh had said before boycotting the post-match conference for what he termed the unprofessional coverage of the match end by Indian media.
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| Pakistan Hockey team coach's statement issued to Indian Media |
Indian media focused match coverage entirely on Pakistani players raising unruly gestures after defeating their arch-rivals. The Pakistani players were allegedly reacting to cat-calls by the Indian spectators who had come to watch the crucial game in large numbers.
Indian coach Roelant Oltmans termed the Pakistani celebrations “a bit too much”, disapproving of their behaviour. Their captain, Sardar Singh, had said that the reaction gave a wrong message to the people of the game, adding that such things should have been avoided in front of a packed stadium.
The FIH did call in Pakistani players Shafqat Rasool, Amjad Hussain and Tauseeq Ahmed for an inquiry.
‘No action against Pakistan’ angers Indian hockey chief
Earlier in the day, Hockey India chief Narendra Batra was furious over FIH’s decision to not take any action against the misconduct of Pakistani players.
“We have decided we will not host any bilateral series with Pakistan until we get an unconditional apology from the Pakistani federation for the behaviour of their athletes,” Batra said.
“I wanted to congratulate Pakistan on their victory yesterday, but the post-match celebrations are totally unacceptable,” the Indian hockey chief said while talking to Indian media. “We lodged a formal protest with the tournament director and I am really disappointed with his decision.”
Batra claimed there was no provocation from the Indian crowd or media which could have prompted Pakistani players to resort to unruly gestures.
"[Pakistan players] were seen showing middle fingers and this goes against all norms of decency,” he said.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:15pm
LOL at indian media.... It was players right to celebrate after such hooting from crowd... tit for tat... Eat the dust
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Dec 14, 2014 12:16pm
Good job green shirts. Just don't let the crowd get to you guys.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:20pm
So, no charges against Pakistan hockey team as coach as taken the initiative but damage done to you by Indian hockey federation....no future game with Pak (TOI)
Ask China to play with you "a hockey match" or second option is to ask US. Kuch to karege we log....acting bhi koi cheez hot I hai
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Dec 14, 2014 12:22pm
It was brilliant match with great skills by both teams, marred by avoidable and uncalled for behaviour by Pak team in end.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:26pm
Well done Pakistani team!
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Dec 14, 2014 12:27pm
Sarouv Gangoly took off his shirt in England after India beat England in a one day match. When India had lost 8 wicktes for 120 runs against Sri Lanka in semi final of 1996 world cup and were facing defeat, the crowd had ignited fire in the stadium. Recall what had happened when Shoaib Akhtar had uprooted Sachin Tandulkar's middle stump on first ball. The Indian "SPORTS" history is full of such events.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:28pm
Action should be taken against the team management for not preparing the boys for ALL eventualities.........and not just playing hockey.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:29pm
Dear Pakistan hockey team, get matured. Respect the people who watch the game and support this game.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:36pm
Decency is the essence of sports. Players from Sub Continent must be trained how to celebrate victory. We have a bad past history in hockey, cricket and recently again in women boxing and again in hockey now. All the sport managements both in India and Pakistan are responsible for these types of actions.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:39pm
A reciprocal reply. Shahnaz shiekh should not have offered apology to any one.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:39pm
Unlike the 'boys', the green shirts do not get a fair chance to play abroad and under challenging conditions and thus develop an ability to handle unruly or abusive crowds responsibly. They will mature as they get more foreign tours.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:41pm
Pakistan win the game but loses the respect.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:43pm
Good hockey but jubilation doesn't mean bad behaviour. What has happened is against spirit of games. Pak players should apologise. If they would have done same thing in Europe, they would have paid the heavy price of it.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:45pm
What is meant by unprofessional coverage by media. I was one of the believer that India and Pakistan should have bilateral sports. But such comments by their coach and support for such behaviour by Pakistan media I would never want any Pakistani playing in India. I used to feel sorry for pakistani sportsperson for lack of support and lack of tournament but now onwards I won't feel bad about it. They deserve such horrible sports adminstration how will only take one step forward and than four step backward.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:45pm
@Ilyas Sourav had taken his shirt in reaction to the flintoff taking his shirt out and it was not directed at crowds. This is shameful and disgraceful. While both teams played good hockey ,Pakistan a goal better , but India won as pakistanis shamed
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Dec 14, 2014 12:47pm
When a team cant respect crowd then should be banned from all sporting activities
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Dec 14, 2014 12:48pm
The gestures by some of the Pakistani Hockey players after the semi-final win over India were obscene, to say the least. Irrespective of the FIH's ruling, the comments by some Pakistanis on both the Facebook and the Times of India, are in poor taste! Look at the difference between the sober posts in the Dawn by so many educated and cultured Pakistanis, and the trash written by the others!! Some of the finest sportpersons from Pakistan; Shahnaz Sheikh himself, Zaheer Abbas, Asif Iqbal, Jahangir Khan etc to name just some; never resorted to any such gestures. They did not have to, as their abilities on the field did the 'talking'. Talking of the freedom of expression, at least the Times of India allows such publications, without any per-censoring. I hope my message too would get through the filter and get published, in one of the finest newspapers of Pakistan, the Dawn. Regards.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:48pm
Your coach was asking for help from India a few days ago
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Dec 14, 2014 12:48pm
The middle finger was unnecessary. I'm an indian and don't mind wild celebration. But becoming obscene was immature and now result will be that paki team will lose focus and face more heat from crowds..
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Dec 14, 2014 12:51pm
@gaurav ofcourse blame pakistan for all your faults
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Dec 14, 2014 12:52pm
Indians are always "victims"
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Dec 14, 2014 12:53pm
@Wasim Ahmed : good players like Sachin Tendulkar,Imran Khan didnt respond to any comments from the crowd...players represent a nation. If they start behaving wrongly then a wrong message is conveyed. Pakistan played well and best of luck to them. But no need to respond like galli game.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:53pm
This is wrong and should be punished, this goes against any ethics sportsmanship
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Dec 14, 2014 12:55pm
@Parvez . For what mistake? in the game of Soccer, you can watch too many incidents like this. What about Saurav Ganguly, when he took off his shirt in England?
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Dec 14, 2014 12:57pm
To be honest, the conduct of Pakistani players was only the reaction to what they saw and heard from an unruly Indian crowed and Indian players after each goal they conceived.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:01pm
@Ilyas they not only took off their shirts but also showed middle finger to the crowd..
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Dec 14, 2014 01:01pm
Congrats to Pakistan team.. Our medi is projecting too much.. comon media guys, they hav full right to celebrate.. anyone would do the same after winning such intense game.. just njoy the game and take it as positive sign that Hockey glory will back to Desissss...
cheers guys
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Dec 14, 2014 01:03pm
@Ahmad Ali Rafi Ahmad;
"Pakistan win the game but loses the respect."
They didn't go to India to win their respect.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:05pm
@Ilyas , u r right but when Pakistan does it, it is misconduct, double standards at their best.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:05pm
Congratulations Pakistan, Yesterday as a fan of hockey u guys hurt me. Thanks guys for showing middle fingers to International Hockey fans.. Thanks for removing clothes in front of audience and international media..Thanks for all kind of obscene gestures towards the ministers of state and Indian government officials. Hats off to you, we Indians respect ur victory, but we citizens of India and Indian media Boycott each and every match with Pakistan in future. No more sponsorship from now for any event against Pakistan till International Hockey Federation take strict action against players. thanks to all audience who controlled themselves for any indiscipline inside stadium.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:05pm
I think it was the green color that offended the Indians.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:05pm
@Dev: comon Dev.. Sports ko sports ki terh lo yaar.. jo accha khaila wo jeeta.. from business point of view i think is much better if India and Pakistan play often.. imagine kitne ticket sell honge, kitne log ko job milegi..
overall its good for indian sub continent..
cheers mate
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Dec 14, 2014 01:06pm
@satyan ....there was no middle finger as shown in the doctored picture posted by TOI...watch the video footage again. That particular player had his shirt in his hand and he was just screaming on the crowd.....still all that happened in the heat of the moment and media made it a big issue....and now FIH has been blackmailed...
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Dec 14, 2014 01:07pm
i remember indian player showing middle finger to pak crowds in malaysia sultan azlan shah cup 2years ago on live tv...then also there wasnt any charges against that player..so india players need to judge themself first b4 complaining
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Dec 14, 2014 01:09pm
Gangly took off his shirt in England and waved it for the whole world to see from the pavilion.
How is this any different?
Plus the hindustani crowd was most disrespectful shouting obscene cat calls!
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Dec 14, 2014 01:09pm
After loosing so many times to India, finally we won against India, by one goal.
Just shows how desperate we are to score over India, however unimportant it may be. Why?
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Dec 14, 2014 01:11pm
@Ahmad Ali Rafi Ahmad Pakistan lost no respect. It is Hindustan that lost it!
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Dec 14, 2014 01:11pm
NO middle finger showed to anyone. They celebrate as the way winner show do after and intense match. Did spectators not doing anything ????
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Dec 14, 2014 01:12pm
Congratulations Green Shirts. You could have avoided taking off shirts and making offensive postures thogh Indian crowd was abusive to you like ALWAYS. Indian crowd also needs to learn to respect the visitors.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:15pm
@bravo players represent nation while crowed of that country represent Mob - Player should not respond back
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Dec 14, 2014 01:17pm
No grace from pakistan sportsmen either while winning or losing. pretty sad.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:18pm
Another reason for starting a fight, live and let live, it is just a game. Hosts should be big hearted also, so many players take off the shirts after a victory, so what, if they want to celebrate they have to ask permission I think that was the problem. We already have so many issues do not drag everything else into it, honestly it looks like little kids fighting over a lost game.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:21pm
@Ratnesh . Not everyone would show the middle finger to the crowd after winning the game. Celebrating a win is understood, but as you are representing your country you have to celebrate it in such a way that you are not bringing bad name to your nation.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:21pm
Pakistani players must learn to celebrate with dignity,hooliganism is not our national character. Shenaz Sheikh did the right thing to apologize to the Indian fans and officials. The Indians must not be too sticky.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:23pm
@Ilyas We need not to follow the Indians.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:24pm
@Arun. Dear indians get matured.Respect all teams who play game in your country.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:27pm
True they went overboard. But the Indian media has gone berserk. Just go through the comments section of TOI, and the foul language, hatred, hostility shown by them is totally insane and inane. Also the crowd at the stadium resorted to hooliganism and constantly using slur and abusive language against the Pakistani players. In football matches in the west this is not even be considered as indecent.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:27pm
No more Hockey with Pakistan - those who don't know how to behave should stay in their own house...someone needs to teach these Pakistan players on how to be decent.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:28pm
No big deal of taking the shirt off it,s happen in almost every game just the main thing is India has lost the hockey game to Pakistan that is the main problem of India, also congrat to Austrila to win there cricket game.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:30pm
Now international media cannot be blamed for Pakistan image problem. Lots of people support such behavior with no idea of long term impact such behavior can cause. Win and lose are temporary but this is going to have lasting impact.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:33pm
Indians are the worst and most abusing sports fans anywhere. They were shouting obscenities at Pak players all thru the match. Players reacted in natural way although they should have tempered it down. Have you checked Virat Kohlis reactions towards the crowd on few occasions? Its like pot calling the kettle black.
While Pakistan coach apologized for Pak player behaviour, Indians reacted in typical Indian cry baby way "we wont play with you next time" Hahaha LOL
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Dec 14, 2014 01:35pm
Showing middle finger to the crowd,is it the correct way of celebration after winning the match.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:42pm
@All those who think this behavior is justified - The same crowd cheered for Pakistan in the previous match against Netherlands..Now in the finals - one can be sure Pakistan will have no crowd support, will lose and go home in shame for their boorish behavior.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:43pm
Well done Dawn... reporting on a Pakistan India match using 'according to indian media'.
Good service to the country as usual. Why dont we just shut down this news paper and go to TOI for our news. They might try to present the Pakistani perspective slightly better!
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Dec 14, 2014 01:43pm
@Ahmad
You are wrong by the normal cultural standards used by worldwide societies to consider what is offensive and what is not. This behavior may be normal for you but not for rest of the world.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:43pm
@Ilyas Sourav ganguly had strong reply to Andrew flintoff . Crows has right to cheers his victory in his own way but players has lot of attention of people and international media .
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Dec 14, 2014 01:43pm
The problem is we already have so much political heat between our countries. The players on both sides carry a moral responsibility to make sure they dont add more fuel to the fire the whole world is watching our acts and these irresponsible acts will give reasons to more complicated political issues between our countries. As it is we have enough issues that we cannot resolve and now we got another one to add. Hope people from both india and pakistan understand this Especially people who are on the spotlight where the whole world is watching us.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:43pm
This reminded me the behavior of Indian Cricket Players - Kohli and others - on the ground. Nevertheless, it should never have happened, we tendered our apology, hope this will be up to the satisfaction of Indian people (Media Specially).
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Dec 14, 2014 01:45pm
It was just jubilation...enjoy the game!
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Dec 14, 2014 01:48pm
mere pakistani bhaiyon aap Aslam Shah Cup bhool gaye aur Adhon ki Cricket (Blind Cricket) mein maar padi woh bhool gaye, try showing your middle finger to the Arabs and they will suddenly forget that they are your Muslim brothers. winning and losing is part of the game but making obsence gestures is un-islamic. Also can you imagine the Indian hockey team taking off their shirts in Pakistan? in front of your ladies - have some decency !
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Dec 14, 2014 01:50pm
@banutaim there is nothing from the crowd, it's a winning celebration yes you deserve to celebrate this is nothing bad, bcoz I was in Kalinga Stadium but how they behaved, that's the point show your middle finger that's mean you're not the real sports person, at least respect the crowd.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:52pm
I don't see anything indecent in the way Pakistani players celebrated their victory. They after all fought a nail baiting match over their bitter rivals that too in India, all these factors might have excited them a bit more, which is quite common in a game hard fought and won. Congratulations to Pakistani Hockey team, they have played against all odds and won, one should not belittle their achievement with these kind of silly allegations of indecency.
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Dec 14, 2014 01:56pm
As per neutal perspective ,Pakistan players have right to celebrate after winning that match or celebrate as they like with their team mates regardless showing un-needed actions they showed to public in INTERNATIONAL HOCKEY MATCH.
whether oppsosite team is INDIA or any other...
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Dec 14, 2014 01:59pm
some player showed middle finger to crowed
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Dec 14, 2014 01:59pm
These is the true representation of Pak and its people and player to an extent...it was a great match spoiled by the behaviour of the pak players but then what you can expect from a rough nation and its uneducated players....
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Dec 14, 2014 02:00pm
I have seen the video of the celebration. I do not see any Pak player showing middle finger. Yes they took their shirts off and waved at the crowd but no obscene gesture. Where did the TOI get the still of this? Lol
I think Indians were just stunned so they wanted to divert the attention to something else .... as always.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:02pm
@Ilyas Sourav was in balcony and not in front of spectatos, and you would recall when Manoj Prabhakar reduced Pak at 9 for 3, Karachi crowd disrupted the game and the same happened in Canada.....if India does tit for tat, you would know that pak wont exist...but remember sports is a great brand ambasador....people still remember Cricket tour of 2004.....your hockey team which had respect from many indian lost it yesterday.....
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Dec 14, 2014 02:02pm
With such gesture, pakistani hockey players lost the respect atleast in india. Just think, crowd will be going to be more unruly in india against pakistani team in any forthcoming hockey match.
Not good for the game. Not good for future of india - pakistan hockey series.
I wish, we all forget this incident asap and start new beginning.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:03pm
Suprisingly no editorial in pak media to condem such behaviour!!
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Dec 14, 2014 02:03pm
Sad to see that so many of my fellow Pakistanis are either in denial that the team misbehaved or think that its ok to behave that way. I was very excited about the win, now not so much. There is no excuse strong enough to justify this behavior.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:06pm
If our players cannot handle unruly crowds and fans then they have no right to play at international level. We are lucky that IHF did not take action against any of our players.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:07pm
It would be futile to expect better behaviour from the winning tema and given the state of affairs no one wants to play with this team not just in Hockey but in most other games as well.India too should be ponder on playing future games.Winnig or lsing is not the point but if dignity and acceptable behaviour is at stake what is the point in playhing or winnig,
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Dec 14, 2014 02:10pm
@Wasim Ahmed : i agree with you bro but unfortunately crowds doesn't have any face or identity but players have. Moreover, players are representatives of their respective country. Players should have shown more maturity. Though i do agree it happens sometimes out of emotion. Let's end this topic after apology from pak coach.
I still support Pakistan team in final.
Good Luck !!!
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Dec 14, 2014 02:10pm
Pakistan Hockey Federation should take action against the players who let their emotions carried away with the win. We let ourselves down as Pakistani and Muslim by acting wrong.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:12pm
comonscence is saying the crowed will support its own team wheather he is winning or not. pak teams expectation from the crowed to support them shows their intlegence.
About obscence behaviour by pointing meddle finger in a state like odisha where the people consider it as a sin, make it inappropriate. And by doing this next time u can not expect a decent behaviour from indian player after winning over you.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:16pm
@Waqas : Give your email I will send you the photo
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Dec 14, 2014 02:21pm
It is shameful for the pakistan team to show such kind of behavior. They should apologies to the Indian hockey federation
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Dec 14, 2014 02:27pm
@Mustafa
thats why as a nation Pakistan has no respect from the world
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Dec 14, 2014 02:28pm
India cannot hope to do something like this in pakistan because no International event happens in pakistan :). No country is willing to go there.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:39pm
@Ilyas sachin tendulkar was run out due to delibrate tackle by shoaib, get your facts right dude,
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Dec 14, 2014 02:40pm
Actually Indian Crowd & Media didn't give respect to Pakistani players and that was the reaction..
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Dec 14, 2014 02:40pm
@Ratnesh Actually both the teams plaed good Hocket, but still need much better standard to come at par with Australian and European teams.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:41pm
pity on pakistani media for projecting a little incident so much out of proportion...i checked three leading indian newspapers and the focus there was only the match details...and not any controversy.the incident that may have happened for a brief moment only, but the focus of DAWN is not the match but the incident .this is the second news item within 24 hours only about the accident. what wrong the Pakistani players have done except silencing the crowd and a brief gesture.Even FIH isnt taking it further that whats your problem DAWN?
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Dec 14, 2014 02:41pm
Nothing wrong in the celebration at all but making obscene gestures at the crowd? Not cool at all.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:41pm
:D :D unprofessional behaviour by sportsmen and childish defence by their fans. when you play international games crowed will be unruly and bias. but you are the ambassador of your country. never mind, nothing better to expect. on lighter note, aftet being kicked out at all major turnaments be it asia cup or worl cup or Olympic or az cup, its one of the rare wictories, so they just got carried away.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:41pm
As an Indian who does not care for Pakistan, I was quite pleased to see the reports of indecent behaviour of Pakistani players. It is always nice when Pakistanis make a spectacle of themselves in front of the world and they seem to like tarnishing themselves quite often. Hockey India should actually thank these peasants.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:42pm
Sourav Ganguly took off his shirt when India won against England - no apology was needed - what the big deal - Take it easy Indians !!!!!
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Dec 14, 2014 02:45pm
This is not a good sports man spirit to show such gestures after the match, i am a Pakistani and happy that we won but YES i am against such behavior...If this would have done by Indian players then we would have reached more then this.....TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR..Players should apologize for showing middle fingers and Pak Mgmt of Hockey to take action against this specif players...
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Dec 14, 2014 02:45pm
I like that we win, but showing the middle finger was a shameful act by our players. Nevertheless, the Indians shouldn't over react.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:46pm
@Sayyar Khan Good job at the display of your culture there ?
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Dec 14, 2014 02:47pm
@Wasim Ahmed
Yes but showing middle finger to crowd or individual is universally rude , if the Indian medias allegation is right. Moreover it was an Indian crowd and the event was happening in India. Pakistani team could not have expected any support from them . However the unfortunate incident could have been avoided. Lets treat the sports as sport.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:48pm
@Ilyas ....but no Indian ever showed middle fingers or made lewd gestures or shouted obscenities to the crowd. Please see the pictures on Indian news websites. And of course you would say the pics are morphed!
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Dec 14, 2014 02:48pm
@Dev Burning smell is in the air. Who Cares, we are very much comfortable with that. After loosing India always act like a crying baby.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:49pm
No matter what Indian authorities say - they can't live without playing against Pakistan - not many would buy the tickets !!!!! Got it !!!!!
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Dec 14, 2014 02:49pm
@banutaim :Can you please point out what exactly is "our fault" here???
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Dec 14, 2014 02:50pm
No doubt that celebration is the right of Pakistani players I am also giving congratulation to them but the method is not good, we are Muslims and being a Muslim these are not good manners.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:51pm
@Wasim Ahmed That shows the low level of IQ and etiquette of ur players ..just bcos someone does it does not mean u go a step forward and show that there is no difference in class!
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Dec 14, 2014 02:51pm
Its almost 2015. Would like proof on you tube for the obscene gestures. I agree the celebrations were a bit over the limit, but they were no different than Virat Koli jumping around like a kid. The Pakistani players were up against an extremely offensive and hostile crowd. You cant expect these bunch of 21 year olds to act mature in that scenario ...
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Dec 14, 2014 02:53pm
Great game played... and the better team on the day won the match. Congrats Green-Shirts!
On the matter of indiscipline, it was the manager's job to rein-in the celebrations, specifically the gestures. He didn't manage his responsibility and he has apologized for it. Case closed. To be humble in one's victory and complimentary in defeat should be taught to all sportsmen and sportswomen.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:53pm
@Sheikh Reyaz Ahmed : It's not about talking off the shirt,it's about the obscene gestures.Saurav Ganguly didn't do anything of that sort.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:54pm
@no more! PTI will bring about more decency in Pakistan, in general... Just need to rid ourselves of these corrupt politicians first.
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Dec 14, 2014 02:56pm
@Ahmad .......but did he show his middle finger? Did he make lewd gestures? Did he shout profanities? See the pictures on Indian news websites. You might say they are morphed though!
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Dec 14, 2014 02:57pm
@Ilyas
Not about T-Shirts ! They were shoing middle fingers and making obscene gestures towards the public after which the crowd went mad and hurled water bottle at your gawar team
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Dec 14, 2014 02:58pm
Whats happened if some players showed a "middle" finger to the indian fans.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:00pm
Congrats to the Pakistani team but such behaviour was unnecessary.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:01pm
@laddoo Are you blind? There are clear screen shots and video of showing middle finger.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:01pm
@Ilyas Sourav Ganguly's action was for Flintoff who removed shirt in India.Not for the spectators.So,do you want Indian hockey players go to Pakistan, win their match and remove theirs shirts?
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Dec 14, 2014 03:05pm
To all Hockey loving fans from both sides as a Pakistani I feel the incident should have been avoided. You have to respect the crowd and the host nation at all cost. Actions like this have very deep implications, you are giving a chance to certain elements from both sides to exploit incidents like this. I hope sense will prevail in the end as I remember the days when Asian style of hockey use to be a treat to watch. I would love to see more matches played out between both teams. I hope PHF will take some measures to prepare players how to handle situations like this in the future.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:06pm
@Mb
They will pay the heavy price.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:08pm
While the Pakistani team post win celebrations were indeed a bit too much, but at the same time Indian media and board are acting a "bit" too much touchy/dovey as well..
Cmon, it was just a game and it's OK if you celebrate a bit hard after the mother rush of adrenaline..Cheers
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Dec 14, 2014 03:10pm
it was Indian ground with zero Pakistani supporters , the crowed must have made hard for the Pakistani players to play during the match , that's what Indian uncivilized crowed do usually, and in result the players showed their frustration .
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Dec 14, 2014 03:16pm
@Ilyas You forgot to mention Virat Kohli actually showing middle finger to the crowd when India last time toured Australia.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:16pm
With india refusing to play our hockey will go along same path as cricket.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:16pm
I watched the yuotuve videos of the said scenes. Well, I have to say the players obviously seem to have been under a lot pressure before and during the match.
I understand that after the win when the whole stadium is against you to a big degree. I Europe people would say that celebration was well within the norm.
Removing shorts, jumping around is totally okay. Gesturing towards the crowd with finger on the lips etc. is not obscene to me.
The celebration is wild. Yes. But that should not be a big issue.
I don't see more in the YouTube videos and don't understand what the whole discussion is about.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:18pm
@india Don't you remember Virat Kohli showing middle finger to the crowd in Australia the last time India toured there. There are pictures and videos available on it. All our players was just taking their shirts off and celebrating. Why is too tough to digest?
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Dec 14, 2014 03:19pm
I think it was not deliberate but after hearing the hooting from Indian crowd they responded with such indesecent gesture should have been avoided and learn to accept win loss manly.Players and crowd needs to calm down even expressing their happiness and sorrows in emotional peaks of the games.I remmeber the semi final in 1996 against Sri lanka back in 1996 in Eden garden ground. Calcutta (Kolkata )now Indian crowd burned the crowd and tried to burn the players. It is nothing new in the psyche of Indians and Pakistanis.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:19pm
@Dev world does not revolve around India Mr Dev.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:20pm
I just want to say hockey has not been a privileged game and when fans are coming to watch it which is good for the game. Fans tantrums will be there in every game
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Dec 14, 2014 03:21pm
@Arun crowd should be respectful in accepting results as well instead of hooting the team
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Dec 14, 2014 03:21pm
@Manoj what about Indian fans in calcutta 1996 world cup vs sri lanka. The crowd run riot when India were loosing badly.
What the crowd abusing the players family. Making derogatory remarks about their mothers and sisters.
The reaction is not be acceptable in either case.
We need to tender apology to each other and learn lessons, not to repeat such behivour in future.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:21pm
In future Pakistan should not cry that why India has stopped playing with Pakistan. Every player is entitled to celebrate their victory but not by showing middle-finger to audience.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:22pm
I find comments from Pakistani fans rather funny. How differently would your media and fans have responded if Indian players had removed their shirts in the stadium and showed you middle finger in a Pakistani stadium ?
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Dec 14, 2014 03:24pm
Pakistani players lost all respect showing obscene gestures to crowd after playing some incredible hockey which should have been clearly avoided. This untoward episode may result in cancelling of future sports ties between the two countries.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:24pm
@Vilas Rajwade We understand the feeling of Indian supporters...unfortunately our athletes were already much bothered by the crowd. The persistent hooting, bad remarks and roaring noise resulted in outburst by some players; which shouldn't have been done, and had suitably been apologized for by Pak coach.
We need to defuse the situation. Sports activities are meant to bring nations closer. The athletes must remained well-disciplined, and exhibit best of gestures especially when they win a contest. They represent the whole nation.
Anyway, let's hope for the best. Best of luck for Indian team for Bronze medal, and Pakistan for Gold.
Regards
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Dec 14, 2014 03:28pm
We are out of control after very loooooong history of defeat
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Dec 14, 2014 03:32pm
@Arun Indian crowd should get mature and show show sportsman spirit! Cheers! Its just a game!
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Dec 14, 2014 03:34pm
This was not olympic , we already winner there (there it can't not be tolerated)..and you people behaving like ?????? Come and play in bihar , and do the same ..... I assure you whole crowd will interested in playing with you ....
If india is not playing with you means whole world will not play with you ...
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Dec 14, 2014 03:34pm
Folks , celebrations are fine. Heartily congratulations to Pakistan. However it was obscene there.
That gesture poured poison into a good game. Fans left the place with sore taste which will remain with them for some time. What's the point? Spread love my friends not hatred .
Once again congrats to pakistan .
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Dec 14, 2014 03:35pm
@Zulfiqar Baig you do not get respect- you earn the respect which takes long time.......
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Dec 14, 2014 03:38pm
@gaurav , wasn't it uncalled behavior when Virat kohli showed the finger, give the world a break.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:38pm
I was there to witness the great game. Pakistan really played well and we stayed after the match to clap for there good game. But I was really disappointed with there behaviour we were group of people with girls in group. These men knew girls sitting there and still they came to the exact place removed there shirts made some lewd comments and obscene gesture, it was embarrassing but eventually you players are diplomats, our small group would have clapped for your sucess. But you showed true colours gr
eat going take the victory with you I found out how big loosers are you in reality.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:39pm
@zeeshan wrong Zeesh, Indian media has played the entire incident and correctly so...Pak hockey team has lost entire respect of a nation.......this is the diff between average, good and great...pak teams played well but they are below average humans....and the comments here shows the pak is ok with it...
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Dec 14, 2014 03:39pm
Indians always cry for everything, they will never grow up. But who cares
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Dec 14, 2014 03:40pm
@Yaar Nawab ha ha ha.....IPL has no pak player and so is Indian Hockey leadue...these attitude of gradure has done no good to pak.....remain true and remeber limits...thats is how one grows!
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Dec 14, 2014 03:41pm
@india two wrongs don't make a right.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:43pm
@no more! , teach your Saurav ganguly not to take off his shirt and Virat kohli should also be reprimanded for showing middle finger. Rules should be same for every team.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:43pm
@Dev Cat calls for visiting team? All tournaments from Indian region should be cancelled and unruly behavior of crowds should pay for no games in there country.Have you seen so many Football matches being cancelled and country suspended due to unruly crowd behavior.If you cannot manage crowd,don't host matches.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:46pm
Looks like Pakistan's national policy is - enter 'Hall of Shame' in every field. People here are referring to Ganguly.......taking off shirt is not the issue.......the issue is showing the middle finger........also Ganguly's reaction was for Flintoff, not for the crowd.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:48pm
@Dev from now Pakistan should not play any matches in India. All matches should be shifted to Sri lanka or Bangladesh. India needs to mature up, rather than behave like a losing whiner.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:48pm
Everyone have rights to celebrate the victory but because of emotional Indian dramas and films India take match as a war.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:48pm
The world should stop playing with india. FIH should stop india's black-mailing by bycotting india.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:50pm
@gaurav ....and the abusive crowds hurling objects was normal for indian, specially a visiting team. In the end the indian media and school taught hate spewed out. As I said, it's harming India more than Pakistan.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:51pm
@Arun good points, start with indian spectators ,then the media and then visiting teams.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:53pm
In the letter pakistani coach is tendering apology unconditionally. So why are people celebrating?? for apologizing ??
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Dec 14, 2014 03:54pm
@Shakeel absolutely agree. Sheikh cannot take manipulated pressure, which indians are evil at doing. He should have moved the focus on to the behaviour of the uncouth crowd, he should complain to FIH on this matter.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:54pm
@Mustafa
"Pakistan win the game but loses the respect."
They didn't go to India to win their respect.' -
Even Veena Malik had come to win a game show only.
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Dec 14, 2014 03:55pm
As far as we are concerned, we thrashed India on their home turf, infront of their crowd- we have won the tournament. Gold, silver , whichever with Germany is ok by us.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:01pm
What about when Virat Kohli showed the middle finger to the Aussie crowd in Australia. Lets talk about that abit! Indians are just being the usual cry babies. they love to dish it out but cant take it when its their turn. Grow up India. What a disgrace!
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Dec 14, 2014 04:03pm
The media is full of pictures with Pakistani team showing obscene gestures. What's the big deal in winning by 4-3,..and it was not the final either. What's the point. Shameless, only a few days ago were requesting India to play more and help survive Pak hockey. Indian response is the right response. Pakistan has to take action for it's Pakistan reputation at stake.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:05pm
Hope such reaction does not happen in future. An excellent victory has been marred by this immature behavior.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:07pm
Good to see apology letter issued by Shahnaz Shaikh and the decision to bring flowers in tomorrow's final.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:10pm
@Zak
You know zak what would have been a fab victory for you. When your guys would have shown the great sportsmanship. A gentle bow to the crowd would have made it remarkable and we would have supported you in final.Our group was there and we actually were about to clap for you guys, after the behaviour we were disgusted if you feel happy with the win in a just other game then great for you. I know that you are far from being true winners. But yes you played great and best of luck for finals.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:14pm
@logic I did not see any in the video but even if they did, which is wrong, how is it different from Virat Kohli showing middle finger to Sydney crowd?
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Dec 14, 2014 04:16pm
Well done hockey team, I am proud. Just win the final too so everyone can zip up.
Well done FIH for not taking any action for e.g banning the players for next 5 years.
Should they have expressed themselves like that or not I dont know, I wasnt there in the stadium, who knows what and how much crowd pressure/hooting/abuses/signs may have been.. players like all humans have a limit after which everyone responds --equal and in opposite direction.
Well done coach for submitting an apology.
Once FIH has made a decision, indians can protest against it with FIH but threatening with matches, sponsorships and the media hype is unnecessary.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:17pm
@Indian Please tell this to Virat Kohli as well who did in Sydney exactly what Indians are accusing Pak players of.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:18pm
@Ratnesh .....we can not take this behavior dude....
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Dec 14, 2014 04:20pm
it was a great match fought to the finish. Excellent quality hockey on both sides. But the lewd gestures of the Pakistani team (pictures not printed by Dawn but can be found elsewhere) are proof that the players need to be reigned in.
Such acts are not good for the game and send wrong messages for children and supporters of the game!
MY
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Dec 14, 2014 04:20pm
Players are supposed to be the ambassadors of the nation while playing abroad. I felt elated after our hockey team won semi final match of ongoing Champions Trophy, more so because it was against India. Well done as for as match is concerned. BUT the indecent behaviour during celebrating victory has ashamed all of us, irrespective of the behaviour of the crowd. I would blame the PHF for not providing necessary guidance to the players. Sports should help in making friends and winning respect rather than losing both. Some action must be taken in this regard.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:21pm
Congratulation Pakistani Team, but we expect good behavior, what so ever the situation in India comes in front of you guys or you people are facing, because it recognizing that we don’t want to be harsh or punitive about something that we really can’t control. The public would provoke you people; because their team lost the game and you people have to understand it, after all you people won that game. The team management has to address it properly, to avoid embarrassment in future.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:21pm
Game could have gone either way.both teams played well.But i think Pakistan coach has apologized that should end this.
I have to say Pak coach Shehnaz is very nice and open minded person.Not coz he apologized but i have seen his previous interviews.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:21pm
@Ilyas Such acts of any sports persons whether they belong to India or Pakistan or for that matter any country shall be condemned without any hesitation. They shall be taught how to maintain decorum.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:23pm
@gaurav
And Indian Cricket Players Kohli Gangulay and Raina Have Shown Sportsmanship In The Past
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Dec 14, 2014 04:28pm
What no action? 2 Pakistani player suspended 1 given warning check updates
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Dec 14, 2014 04:29pm
Just wondering if the Indians commenting here commented the same when Virat Kohli showed the same gesture to Australians in Australia back in 2012? One particular comment then was from the legendary Amitabh Bachchan who said, "Just ignore criticism... It's there so you can prove it wrong! you are great humans... We adore you! Play well we are with you." (reference, TOI 5.1.2012).
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Dec 14, 2014 04:31pm
To all those Indians who overly objected to somewhat avoidable post-match behavior by some of Pak players, I have reported-in-your-own-media proof of Virat Kohli's middle finger "homage" to the crowd present at SCG, Australia, and also have a picture of Sourav Ganguly when he took his shirt off when celebrating a win. Learn to give respect to sports and games yourselves first and then try to 'teach' others. Additionally, the behavior by Pak players must have been avoided not because we are afraid but because that's against decency and morality.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:34pm
@Wasim Ahmed ......do players have right to celebrate with showing MIDDLE FINGER and Dawn u have shown abt shirtless but not abt obscence gesture bias reporting ......dont know which media to blame indian or pak wasim?
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Dec 14, 2014 04:34pm
@Waqas middle finger was shown.. tht is truth,,, photos are available in net
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Dec 14, 2014 04:36pm
@Wasim Ahmed Disgusting behavior on field. Disgusting response on your part. Not surprising. One match won against India in several years. Savour the moment with your fingers.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:37pm
Banned from IPL, banned from hockey....very soon you will have to play with best friend China. all the best.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:37pm
@Dr. Sadaf shaurav did not do it in front of crowd... he did nor taunt or tease spectator.. that is difference... whom kohli showed fingr? anyway the pak behaviour not acceptable/// dont try to take on ndia
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Dec 14, 2014 04:37pm
Amjad Hussain and Tauseeq Ahmed are Heroes of Pakistan.
Ban is illegal :(
We don't care.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:39pm
It's amazing how we can even turn a victory into a failure.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:39pm
Very soon Pakistani sports will be isolated, left with no choice to play only at national level.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:39pm
@Zak be happy... forget load shedding for a while... by the way india defeated pak few days back
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Dec 14, 2014 04:41pm
@Riaz well said... i think the ban will prevent repeatation of the incident.. we can enjoy the game
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Dec 14, 2014 04:43pm
Being a Pakistani, i did not like the way our team celebrated the victory. I think some of their actions were quite obscene and i would be embarrassed if I was with my family and saw this happening on any sports field. I think the team should collectively apologize for this and if not the Pakistan Hockey Federation should penalize the players involved. Plus the administration needs to make sure it never happens again. I have great friends from India and would like to apologize for this untoward incident and rude incident which was truly unnecessary.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:43pm
in this case the kholi behaviour is always discusting and actually indian crowed is always coward sitting behind the bars they always make rude remarks , ie symond from Aus it was clear from all the vidoes and images they were dong the monkey dance .... live with it indian there is noone really respect in the world all the people just ignore as harmless being that does not really sand for anything apart form money .... you guys goes to Pakistani match when even india is not playing and make rude comment behind safe place ...you desirve it
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Dec 14, 2014 04:44pm
Cry babies.come on green shirts.show them what u got :-)
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Dec 14, 2014 04:45pm
@Wasim Ahmed
right to celebrate.. yes if is right..
then why punishment . because its not the way
victory... but learn to enjoy it, celebrate it.. don't behave like illiterates
don't watch cricket. only hockey. disappointed to see such post match things
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Dec 14, 2014 04:46pm
@Ilyas, mate he did not show middle finger to the crowd. Also, his reaction was an answer to the English against what Flintoff did in Mumbai.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:47pm
Its purely PHF responsibility to groom them. We all know their backgrounds and level of education. And apart from that we all are aware of the fact that their participation was made possible just because of some private sponsors still they showed a great fight after losing 3 in a row. And it was all expected after such bad gestures and hooting from the crowd. These kind of celebrations are common in soccer leagues and I'm sure situation would be totally reversed if Indians had done this. Kohli, Harbhajan, Raina, Ganguly all did that in past. Its high time for Indians to get rid of this crying habit after every loss.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:47pm
Deserved victory but shameless act of indecency,As a sportsman u should know to absorb situations, and pressure,such cheap acts of indeceny only brings shame and shows the character that innerly you are fragile.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:47pm
@banutaim, no they are rulers now, and they have bent the FIH in their own way.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:48pm
@gaurav what about the disgusting behaviour of indian crowd.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:48pm
@Dev who cares if we don t play india clearly where better then you. Get some practice and then talk to us
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Dec 14, 2014 04:50pm
@Zak As usual for Pakistan it is to beat India and in the process loose respect. Remember the players are the Ambassadors of a country. FIH has banned two of your players. First cricket and now hockey. Congratulations.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:53pm
Shameful behaviour of any player in or outside the feild of play is not acceptable. The cult of superiority cultivated byteam leaders is reprehensible and should never be toletated. I am a proud Pakistani but will not accept any stupid gesticulation designed to show disrespect to the supporters of the opposition team , whatever the provocation is sign of ignorance and lack ofself respect.
It is no gain pointing out other occasions of other people's behaviour, you are only responsible for your behaviour , get it right. As most of the people know that our sports men and women are representing our nation, we would not to be taken as ill mannered people, do we ? We must demonstrate hightest standard of morality and demeanor every where and aspecially on the world stage.
I would not think twice about sending idiots beck home if they do not learn better manners. They are low life not sportsmen or good Pakistanis.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:55pm
Pakistan is already having a negative image worldwide, please somebody give these players some training on how to conduct yourself
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Dec 14, 2014 04:56pm
@Wasim Ahmed I think they went beyond their 'right' and rightly got banned. Just like cricket people will stop playing anything with Pakistan at all, although you may enjoy playing with China!
Think before you mess with the Daddy- now who is the looser?
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Dec 14, 2014 05:04pm
@viju
No sir, I am a Pakistani and I want more and more contact between the sportsmen and women. Remember the reception Pakistani team got from the Indian crowd when the team entered the arena of the Olympics. Iwant that sprit to prevail in the subcontinent.
Remember also, we are destined to share this piece of land for ever, hopefully as good neighbours and friends. So let us resolve to promote relations in spite of the idiots. You can not leave the field to the stupid .
We will win in the end.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:04pm
Aik Sajda-e-Shukar wajib tha,wo na kia to kia haasil...
Reaction in times of resistance is the true test of one's personality. We as pakistanis should be very careful and should set good examples for others because the spotlight is always on us. No running away from that!!!
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Dec 14, 2014 05:05pm
Anyone misbehaves with us, we punish ! As simple as that. We accept no excuses, esp. if defaulting side is Pakistan. We do so, because WE CAN. Deal with it !
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Dec 14, 2014 05:06pm
Now a days Indian kids stopped playing hockey even cricket too, football is the first choice in India.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:07pm
@Wasim Ahmed
So now who bited the dust? See your Hockey federation will give unconditional apology soon. Otherwise, they can't play in INDIA forever. LOL...
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Dec 14, 2014 05:07pm
The Pak Vs India Calcutta test, the 1996 world cup SL Vs India, the Mohali Pitch issue all these credit to Indian crowd account. This cannot be compare to Mar 2009 incident in Lahore, as no spectator fire on player, those who did are against the game to happened. Does any body know the Mankad Rule, who started it. Unfortunately, the Indian with such a reasonable poster in world sport at the movement are not getting at right. Just imagine the Sportsman's psyche of the Indian nation from the fact, the number of Elite Empire they got in ICC panel to justify their attitude.
We need to analysis why the player react so badly, what factors instigate them to malign the sportsman sprit. It was a big win for Pakistan Hockey in long time keeping in view the Hockey situation in Pak. A treat to watch, but unfortunate to see the crow reaction. Good crowd always support gams not team, which is impossible to see in India, playing against them.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:11pm
@Dev ............ crying and bitterly crying is hallmark of indian sports whenever they lose, remember 1996 cricket world cup semi final loss to sri lanka ????
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Dec 14, 2014 05:12pm
Looks like someone couldn´t digest this defeat, Grow up FIH and Indian fans please!
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Dec 14, 2014 05:12pm
As usual some Pakistanis always take victim mode and say Kohli and Ganguly removed shirts and why cant we do the same? Showing middle finger to crowd and media are the issues we are talking about, not about removing shirts.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:14pm
@Dev what a delicate sensibility :) You must be crying all the way to home.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:15pm
@banutaim Blame Pakistan for all our fault --Who was showing middle finger???
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Dec 14, 2014 05:15pm
passing lewd gestures at viewers might be acceptable in your country but not in India. showing middle finger and rotating finger in vulgar manner u call it "misconduct"... at least show some respect to the women sitting in the viewer... and I know moderator of this website is nvr gonna approve my this comment...coz u need HONESTY to do so...
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Dec 14, 2014 05:16pm
'Much ado, about nothing', India grow up.!
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Dec 14, 2014 05:17pm
why are Indians so insecure.......fail to understand.........live constantly under the agony of being put down by another nation.....1.2 billion with a chicken heart.....way to go Pakistan hockey...I say keep it up
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Dec 14, 2014 05:19pm
@Sheikh Reyaz Ahmed - And did he show middle finger to any one?
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Dec 14, 2014 05:20pm
it was a BAD day for indian fans as thir cricket team lost 1st test in AUS and then hocley semi-final against arch rivals Pak.
Celebrating victory is winning teams right. removing shirts is not a problem as its common in soccer games. Yes showing middle finger or indicent gestures by players are inappropriate but then it could be in reaction to a provoking act by an expectator.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:22pm
Those who think that the ban is for taking off shirts are not well-informed. At least two Pak players made an obscene gesture to the crowd and that was grossly indecent. Different teams celebrate differently - some with grace, some with force, some like there is no tomorrow. It is a reflection of their taste and their class. Sourav Ganguly was one captain who never took things lying down and he retaliated to Andrew Flintoff's similar gesture. Pakistan was not provoked by anyone. No was there a need to show fingers in obscene ways.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:23pm
OMG Indians are such bad losers.
Pakistan won, take it like a man.
Stop being a cry baby
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Dec 14, 2014 05:23pm
Now Nawaz sharif will victimise these Pakistani players to make his business partners in India happy
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Dec 14, 2014 05:24pm
@Ilyas : Yeah he did not show the middle finger. The Pakistani players made unnecessary gestures.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:25pm
No doubt the crowed behaviour was provocative. However, Green Shirts "elders" could have avoided situation to happen by using their 'vast experience'.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:26pm
@Arun
You need to get matured and take defeat like a man. Indians are worst losers. Remember 1996 World Cup Semi Final against Srilanka.
Teach your crowd how to behave with guest teams. Very bad losers I must say
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Dec 14, 2014 05:27pm
A very cold and harsh decision by FIH clearly under the Indian pressure. From statements coming out of the Indian camp it is evident they are the most sore losers of all time.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:28pm
@viju
Such a cry baby. I Am enjoying this behavior. Show the world that you guys are worst losers in the world
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Dec 14, 2014 05:30pm
When Ganguly does it...never mind, when Flintoff does it ...never mind, when crowd booes payers throughout...never mind it, when Pakistani does it...PUNISH them, be it hockey or cricket. We are living in a biased world.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:32pm
@Laddoo : Bhai jaan, Virat Kohli was given penalty, he was fined half of his match fee.You can google and verify.
Showing middle finger as victory celebration is totally unprofessional. This unfortunately became highlight of the game than how well players have played.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:33pm
@Arun Indian media needs to grow up and show mature behaviour. At the moment they are biased when it comes to Pakistan.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:34pm
Players play for the fans, by disrespecting them the very raisin de etre of the game is questioned. The tolerance of the Indian people has been misunderstood as weakness by these poor ambassadors of their country
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Dec 14, 2014 05:38pm
There is no doubt, it was a fine win by Pakistan but marred by irresponsible players. Irrespective of what the crowd did or said it was the individual players responsibility to remain calm and celebrate in a decent manner. The PHF should apologize and discipline the wrongdoers.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:40pm
Finally the threats of India have forced FIH to bow down and take such heart-consoling step for the wretched and distressed Indians, though such ban of suspending two players for one match may not bring any relief to India rather it shall be a good time to rubbing the reddish cheeks turned furious after losing to Pakistan….
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Dec 14, 2014 05:41pm
Fair enough!
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Dec 14, 2014 05:42pm
What?? FIH banned two Pakistan players under immense pressure from Indians just because the Indian media and their people couldn't digest a defeat at their home turf? if that's how FIH is going to operate than Pakistan team management should Boycott the Final and bring back our players home ASAP. if that's the attitude of Indians towards a defeat than I am seriously concerned about the well being and safety of our players there. no need to play in such a primitive minded place where a simple defeat in a game of hockey will unruffle them to an extent that they would not settle for anything less than banning the team and its players.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:47pm
didnt you see the middle finger gestures ?
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Dec 14, 2014 05:50pm
@Sab Se Pehle Pakistan : Did you actually read what the complaint is about?. Should I say Pakistanis have low reading comprehension looking at your comment.
Pakistan played well. This comment section would have been filled with praising comments from Indians here, unless for this bizarre action of showing obscene gestures by multiple players and long enough to warrant action. Totally uncalled for.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:52pm
@Ahmad it was done not on the pitch but on that balcony where he was watching the game, while this was done by 'whole' team, on the pitch and raising middle fingers against the crowd
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Dec 14, 2014 05:54pm
@Zakir Khan please call them back. You seem very concerned
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Dec 14, 2014 05:55pm
Indian mindset: If on ground real hero like Pak Hockey Players remove shirt in gesture of celebrations is a crime and shirt removed by on screen hero like Salman Khan is talent.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:58pm
@viju only few times in 67 years India Pakistan played played bilateral series in hockey, so what difference it will make if they don't play in future?
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Dec 14, 2014 06:01pm
@Shakeel I fully agree. Celebration is part of sports.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:03pm
@satyan so the problem is middle finger.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:05pm
Wow we can even ruin a victory! We are amazing. We beat our biggest enemy and get banned lol
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Dec 14, 2014 06:06pm
I am proud that my team India was very dignified in accepting this defeat as well as victory against the same Pakistan team just a couple of months back in Asia games. Pakistan team behavior was in line with my expectations, so no surprises there for me at least.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:10pm
first....... wanna congrats pak hockey team for finals.... though they dont deserv it after loosing all group games....
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Dec 14, 2014 06:11pm
There is no way our boys would have reacted the way they did unless and until the Indian crowd provoked them before and during the game. In football if the fans behave unruly, FIFA not only ban the crowd but the axe fall on the host club for not controlling the crowd behaviour. Anyway, proud of our lads, they gave the enemy a befitting reply in its own territory.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:12pm
As a Pakistani I was ashamed to see the immaturish and childish celebration by a few players. It might be that they were responding to the behaviour of the crowd in the match against India. They forgot how much Indian crowd supported them in the match against Netherlands. The players forgot that they are considered as ambassadors and they gestures and celebrations were tasteless and humiliating. They had won just one game, what was the big deal? Players and administration should apologize to the people and once home the players should be reprimanded severely.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:22pm
Emotions were running high on both sides. But any national team representing a nation should learn how to control their emotions and behave respectfully ( even if crowd was nasty ) . I am a Pakistani and seeing that picture with the middle finger raised ( towards the crowd )
Is really embarrassing. ( for the whole nation )
I really don't care what ganguly did or how Indians behave --- I know that we should behave respectfully.
In the end , one match ban seems fair.
People supporting this behavior should imagine themselves sitting there with there kids. Would you tell your kids that it's ok to behave like this??
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Dec 14, 2014 06:26pm
To all my Pakistani friends, first of all congratulations on the win. I was so happy that I watched the game until the celebration. Think from different angle. What if some 100 in crowd would have lost temper. Like Pakistan, India is bad in crowd management. Something really bad could have happened. Forget about moral and all. These kind of behaviour could lead to serious security issues. I agree that some Indian players also lack discipline. But that does not justify the behaviour of Pakistani players.Their behavior was self destructive.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:30pm
They wrecked a well-deserved victory with their lewd, rude gestures and abuses at thousands of stunned fans at the Kalinga Stadium on Saturday, as they celebrated with their shirts off.
Sportspersons and fans have a symbiotic relationship. Both sides gain a lot from the other, and therefore both sides must respect each other. A crowd will sometimes cheer the players and at other times jeer the players. Every crowd has its favorite team. That does not mean that the crowd can be insulted..
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Dec 14, 2014 06:35pm
To Pakistanis,
Indians will get away from stuff unlike Pakistan (Kohli and Ganguly being the 2 examples) because they are simply more influential. Like CIA's people responsible for torture got away from any punishment.
It's nothing personal, hypocrisy has been the way of the world.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:41pm
Apologize for what? Forget apologies we won and are happy.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:41pm
@Ilyas its not abt removing shirt. they have shown middle finger to the crowd. thats why it had happened.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:57pm
Pak celebrities like Wasim Akram, Saeed Anwar, Atif Aslam, Ali zafar, Rahat Fateh ali khan have a mass fan following in India and the only reason for that is these people are not only talented but also humble and down to earth. A talented person knows his limits. The gesture that Pakistani players made on field are not at all acceptable. Had it been an Indian player, India's hockey federations would have banned such players by now but Pakistan can't afford to do the same. Congrats to Pakisatn for a great and match and the win but irrespective of which country you play for, you are respected only for the talent and not for the gesture made on field.
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Dec 14, 2014 07:04pm
You let them play and treat them as special guests and thats how they repay you. On one hand they beg for a bilateral tournament and on the other hand they insult you.
No place for these kind of players in international arena. Shameful act
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Dec 14, 2014 07:05pm
First cricket, and now hockey....
Poor Indians just can not take losing and so try underhand ways to spite Pakistan
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Dec 14, 2014 07:17pm
It's sad how India always has a huge Anti-Pakistan stance, and the Indian media lights fire to it. From what I have personally noticed, even when I've been abroad, Indians generally have a very negative perception of Pakistan to the point of being rude.
They really should get over it.
Honestly, in Pakistan, most average Pakistanis have no problem with Indians at all.
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Dec 14, 2014 07:18pm
@Arun I agree with you. That's good piece of advice. Being Pakistan I condemn this behaviour.
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Dec 14, 2014 07:25pm
FIH bowed to pressure from india as per BJP situation has changed in India BJP govt is in office so they cannot accept loosing to Pakistan they will not talk to Pakistan neither play with it until Pakistan doesn't assure them win
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Dec 14, 2014 07:35pm
Calculated move by India to demoralize and demotivate Pakistani players just before the big Final.
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Dec 14, 2014 07:43pm
There is a difference between celebration and obscenity. Players are professionals and should know better how to react to crowd. This type of behavior although is not unheard off. It happens both in east and west. Pakistani federation need to apologize and players need to be disciplined.
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Dec 14, 2014 07:44pm
@Dev so what, i think indians dont deserve to play with green shirts, at least there needs to be some standard to come and play with hawks
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Dec 14, 2014 08:00pm
Indians are cheaters! A political move indeed!
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Dec 14, 2014 08:16pm
India, what's wrong with them celebrating?
Ridiculous. It is politics in the sports field.
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Dec 14, 2014 08:25pm
Well done Pakistan team on winning the game, but ethics is more important than skills. This was not merely a celebration. There should be no harm in apologizing unconditionally.
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Dec 14, 2014 08:29pm
Unlike the 'boys', the green shirts do not get a fair chance to play abroad and under challenging conditions and thus develop an ability to handle unruly or abusive crowds responsibly. They will mature as they get more foreign tours.
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Dec 14, 2014 08:47pm
Why are Indians such cry babies and sore losers? Their media was quiet when they lost and gave Pak team no credit for the win
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Dec 14, 2014 09:14pm
@Dev cry Dev cry
Two defeats in same day. No worries pak hockey will flourish without you as it had already. What have your team gained? Fourth position and barely won any game in convincing fashion.
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Dec 14, 2014 09:17pm
@india dream on lost and india now on 4th position
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Dec 14, 2014 09:34pm
As indian I think its fine that pakistani players celebrate with any gesture...Indian media wants issue to make anything sensational ...and even if there is problem with players then Pakistan should handle it as they r ambassadors of their country...and their activities reflect pride of their country...
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Dec 14, 2014 09:41pm
@salim , I would never want to take on India, have better things to do, but you people showed your true self when you played for third position.
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Dec 14, 2014 09:44pm
In sport all cannot win,some will win, some will loose - And the best part of it is to show sportmanship with respect to players n public like in western europe - just be simple and congratulate the winner ! It would have earned more respect among colleuges and word at large - Germans went and shake hands, be it get lost or win!
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Dec 14, 2014 09:45pm
The adrenaline got the best of some players when they over celebrated. The Indian team had the home advantage and crowd support.
The Pakistani coach has apologized and the two players were given the appropriate ban. Indian fans should not get so full of themselves, by saying they wouldn't want to see Pakistan players in India. That only shows a defeatist mindset. Its just a game and the only reason so many people watch in such numbers is because it is Pakistan and India playing. Who cares about Hockey if India and Pakistan don't play against each other. So be gracious and accept the apology from the Pakistani coach.
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Dec 14, 2014 09:51pm
I had not seen the pictures before. The pictures are certainly obscene and unbecoming. How could our players indulge in this conduct? This will certainly not help revival of sporting ties with India. Something at a high level should be done to resolve this matter.
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Dec 14, 2014 09:58pm
@Arun I agree.
They are bound to lose against Germany, not mentally prepared for that kind of success.
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Dec 14, 2014 10:16pm
@Zierbu ...and just like in cricket, it won't matter, as India is inconsequential.
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Dec 14, 2014 10:16pm
A childish behavior for a few minutes that might become a major setback to revival of international sports in Pakistan.
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Dec 14, 2014 10:21pm
That type of obscene gesture was uncalled for. It was unbecoming of players representing the country. It adds to the already negative opinion of Pakistan.
A country needs to show maturity in victory and defeat.
A victory with India in a hockey game is not a war won !
Most people in the forum are supporting the action and calling it justified. You may say we don't care. However you should if you want to move Pakistan forward. Otherwise, the same negative opinions are re-inforced.
Should the Indians celebrate in Pakistan's loss to Germany. I think NOT.
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Dec 14, 2014 10:24pm
@Ashraf the behaviour of the crowd was despicable. They did not deserve any bow. India needs to learn to be hospitable to all visitors.
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Dec 14, 2014 10:59pm
@Ravi Dallas TX , good to see you here again, I have never ever seen any praise coming from the Indian side and am sure will never see it in my lifetime. When Pakistan won the test series from Australia and next day Wagah border incident happened, I very clearly remember that you raised a question that should Pakistanis be celebrating, if going by your comment you could also have remarked that Pakistan played well but sadly this is the world we live in now.
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Dec 14, 2014 10:59pm
@A shah best comment
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Dec 14, 2014 11:23pm
Very shameful act by Pakistani players. The only reason we progressed in the tournament was a flawed process and then to behave like fools shows we did not deserve to qualify to higher rounds. These players should receive tougher punishment.
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Dec 14, 2014 11:31pm
@Ilyas Einstein ... This is not about crowd behavior.
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Dec 14, 2014 11:37pm
@Ilyas remember how audience cheered wasim akram in culcutta when they won match
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Dec 14, 2014 11:40pm
@Shakeel The Indian media's bias and the worst type of home crowd should be highlighted instead of admitting the reaction as a mistake.
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Dec 14, 2014 11:45pm
Time and again it is proven that These young kids need trained and on their behavior as well as other traps that comes along their way when exposed to international arena. Sometime by getting lured into match fixings and at other time with unresponsive behavior, it brings shame and inflicts loss to the team. I wonder how much of a loft the team suffers when the best players get banned to play, may it be for hockey , cricket or any other game. The management is to be blamed equally for such instances. It should be condemned at every level as it is against the sprit of the sports . We need to take defeat as well as victory graciously.
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Dec 14, 2014 11:46pm
@Zak You closed the eyes the whole and suddenly opened them to see the reaction of Pakistani players who were subjected to worst type of harassment
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Dec 14, 2014 11:49pm
Showing middle finger...it was wrong. Wasn't it?
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Dec 14, 2014 11:54pm
@Zak Thank you for your sane comment. Players should restrain their emotions because they are representatives of their country and role models for the youth. At the same time we should move on in the interests of sub-continent hockey.
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Dec 14, 2014 11:56pm
Pakistan didnt go to india to win respect, they went there to beat india in their home ground and that is exactly what they did.. green shirts i am proud of you..
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Dec 15, 2014 12:09am
Yes, it was the right of our players, but showing the crowd the middle is disregardful. And then our coach put the icing on the cake by walking out. I have all the respect for him, but he should have been banned too.
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Dec 15, 2014 12:12am
@syed wasim haider - Well said Haider. Pak played well and won. As far as crowd is concerned they are the same in India as well Pakistain. Excessively emotional and unruly. However, the players are professional and they should know that crowd can't be penalized as such, but players may be penalized for such acts. I guess the matter is closed now, there is no need to add useless fire to it by non sensical comments.
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Dec 15, 2014 12:18am
It is the players right to celebrate their win... don't let india free to impose its decisions on FIH.
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Dec 15, 2014 12:19am
@Wasim Ahmed As a Pakistani i am disgusted. no matter how much provocation or not there is from the indian fans, there is no
need for the Pakistani players to behave in this manner.
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Dec 15, 2014 12:20am
@Ilyas but two wrongs dont make it right.
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Dec 15, 2014 12:25am
@Debopam But kohli did.
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Dec 15, 2014 12:27am
@Faisal ...what Cristiano Ronaldo did in most of his matches. was that allowed....
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Dec 15, 2014 12:30am
@Jawaad-Well said my friend
No doubt Pakistan played awesome and walk away with win ! As well it's their rights to celebrate which ever way they want to including taking shirt off ! But, by showing middle fingure to the crowd they gone out of context ,regardless crowd booed them in bad manners ! Playing on national side means you are not just individual but representing whole nation,and players are well trained to handle such situation. If this could have been carried out by Indian players they also should be treated in same manner !
Congratulations Pakistan
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Dec 15, 2014 12:39am
FIH went too far in banning Pakistani players. It was a celebration and they may have gone a little over boarded and it does happen on such occasions. It was an emotional moment. However; the action taken by FIH is biased and was done under political pressure. India reaction was inconsistent with the sportsmen spirit. It shows that Indian hockey federation was furious over losing the game and couldn't accept the defeat. Pakistan should lodge a protest with Hockey Federation. We also need to have a program where we can train our players how to react to defeat or victory.
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Dec 15, 2014 12:41am
@Parvez agree with you.
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Dec 15, 2014 01:01am
I am a resident and a citizen of the UK and a passionate fan of ALL Asian hockey teams .I only saw some pictures of the Pakistan players celebrating with no shirts ,as do most footballers do .I cannot imagine that this a culture issue and not a done thing as virtually every movie from Bollywood these days show the upper torso of the shirtless male hero wooing his love interest. Therefore I assume its not the players without shirts was offending but the one finger gesture by Tousiq ,which even in the west is considered a lewd unacceptable gesture. However , India media is forgetting that SV Sunil of India made a similar one finger gesture during Sultan Azlan Shah Cup in Ipoh to the crowd after having just scored against Pakistan .It seems to me its a case a saying here in the UK " Pot calling the Kettle Black " In the subcontinent it seems politics and sports are being mixed ,hence in sports there never will be any harmony between India and Pakistan which is a real shame.
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Dec 15, 2014 01:48am
@Wasim Ahmed Sorry Sir being a sports man and a representative and a ambassador of a country, one has to be ethically in his best behavior when playing a game, wether on the streets or at the international level. This type of behavior not only shows a disgust to the players but also towards the country they belong too. It was a shameful act that I think took the championship from us. The gesture shown by our players was shameful and disgusting, we won the game against India in India against all odds, which was a slap within. Remember home crowd will always favor their home players no matter what. My hats off to Mr Shenaz Sheikh for accepting the the whole ordeal and apologizing in black and white. Sticks and stones will brake my bones but words will not hurt me.
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Dec 15, 2014 01:59am
Well play Indian media.
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Dec 15, 2014 02:47am
I understand wild celebrations by the Pakistani team & I'm also ok with gesturing the silence sign to a hostile crowd. But showing the finger to the crowd is a strict no no & is not allowed in any international sport in any country. That crosses the line.
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Dec 15, 2014 03:01am
@Ilyas add the famous walk-out by Sunil Gavasker after being given out (lbw) against Australia.
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Dec 15, 2014 03:06am
@india did you recall suresh raina's reaction towards crowds in 2011 wc semifinal. If not then watch the video again.
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Dec 15, 2014 03:10am
Middle finger was not needed, a player in national colours can't do this. Indian crowd will always be aggressive towards visiting Pakistani teams but that's part of the game. However, the joy of beating India in India is second to none, well done boys, proud of you.
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Dec 15, 2014 04:57am
It is hurt to see that some Pakistani folks are still in 1947.. we are moving fwd but not like this..if these celebrities do like this then what you can expect from common people? Grow up..
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Dec 15, 2014 05:36am
I applaud the Pakistani commenters here who have the moral courage to condemn the bad behavior of their team.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:38am
@nabeel Than be ready to pay price in international future matches.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:49am
Most disgusting show of celebration. Taking shirts off, making obscene, lewd gestures. FIH should have suspended whole team. The team is a disgrace to itself and to their country. If Indians boycott playing Pakistan in future, no one can blame them.
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Dec 15, 2014 06:03am
@Arun how about Indian crowd learn to respect the guest team.
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Dec 15, 2014 06:49am
@Wasim Ahmed Players had the right to celebrate but not to make filthy gestures to the crowd. This is unacceptable and irresponsible behaviour by international level sportsmen. Pakistan was lucky to marginally won the semi final. I support the ban but do not support the U-turn of FIH. ..
Ahh ... Pakistan lost the final. Moral of the story "Pride hath a fall".
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Dec 15, 2014 06:51am
We should show empathy to Indians after all it was a huge humiliation in front of RSS crowd.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:22am
@Ilyas , Gangly just replied to what Flintoff did in India when ENG was touring India. and what happened in Kolkata was fans reaction to the meek support of indian team, it wasn't against Sri Lanka. Crowd will hoot you if you are playing against home side, but it doesn't mean players will behave this way. Accept park players did not maintain dignity of a world class team.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:25am
Great job by Green Shirts. Every Pakistani is proud of you.
However, finger flicking is inappropriate. It is insult to the sports and FANS.
You two owe an apology to all hockey fans especially too Indian hockey fans.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:26am
@GT Well you dont deserve any respect that is the reason you guys get smacked all over the world
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Dec 15, 2014 07:40am
History is written by the victors, well done Green team !!
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Dec 15, 2014 07:54am
Where is the photo with middle finger, yet to see it just keep hearing about it from indian media......
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Dec 15, 2014 08:15am
U played well on that day but please show some respect to the game
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Dec 15, 2014 08:16am
We will not be around too often to celebrate if this is how we are going to.
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Dec 15, 2014 09:01am
Players from the subcontinent should learn mature behaviour. Just watch how sober are European teams when they play! Just blaming each other does not help.
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Dec 15, 2014 09:06am
I am pity to Indian media who actually manipulate our victory gesture as offensive for them be we have beaten India after long time and knock them out on Indian home ground, it not happening in in hockey only but other sport like cricket as well. I am pity on those who are mislead by Indian Media who manipulate news on wrong manner. If Indian team misconduct they will not do anything but when Pakistani team did our coach has to apologize. I am really pity of you Indian media.
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
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Dec 15, 2014 09:22am
Indian crowd always support Pakistani Hockey Team when he plays with any other teams except India. Just before semifinal match, Pakistani team thanked to Indian crowd for supporting him. Your act in semifinal match with India, Indian crowd turned against you and given full support to Germany Team. That is why, you lost the match otherwise you would be winner with support of Indian crowd.
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Dec 15, 2014 09:23am
@pakistani Nor does it around Pakistan. In fact it stays miles away from it. That is the reason the Match was being played in India, not in Pakistan.
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Dec 15, 2014 09:25am
Pakistani team should have been humbled at the triumph. The Indians should have accepted the outcome with grace and dignity. This is how it should have been.
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Dec 15, 2014 09:27am
@Ilyas Crowd is nothing. Crowd has no face. But players are celebrities. Players can give good messages to the people. But any bad reaction makes news and drags him in controversy.
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Dec 15, 2014 09:27am
@Vipsy how about boycotting virat kohli as well? Your sportsmen performing such acts is perfectly fine, others doing the same makes you guys cry.. GROW UP!!!
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Dec 15, 2014 09:29am
@Khyber Tiger He was against the decision of Umpire, not the crowd.
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Dec 15, 2014 09:29am
@Proud Pakistan Hawks? Out of 18 outings in last 4 years you just won 4 matches, You guys USED to be hawks, no more. You just got lucky.
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Dec 15, 2014 11:36am
Its good that Pakistan Team had the sense to apologize for such bad behaviour. Must ensure it doesn't happen again...anywhere abroad or locally.
Sports is about following rules of the game, self discipline and control. These traits have to be developed in boys who do not have much exposure before making it to the national level and representing the country.
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Dec 15, 2014 12:58pm
This reminds me of of 1972 Munich olympics where Pakistani hocky team loosing the very tight
game against, I think Germany was so upset that some players accepted the olympic medals by
extending their shoes instead of their hand. Z A Bhutto was the new primer at that time who issued a
a statement supporting the players he later took his statement back but Pakistan hocky team was harasly
critisised by the world press and international hocky federation .
I believe this is all about poor training by the management . It is entirely possible that they were called
names and were given bad hand gesture but a good sportsman should not fall to that level.
M Khan
USA
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Dec 15, 2014 01:33pm
@Sheikh Reyaz Ahmed
Why do you persist following bad behaviour? What is wrong with saying it was bad and ugly. Those who represent Pakistan must show highest level of behaviour, period.
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Dec 15, 2014 03:40pm
I only want to say that. India is responsible for this because why they are letting play pakistan in india. why should pakistani let come in our homeland.
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Dec 15, 2014 04:14pm
@Azmeen , Indians should learn whom not to allow to enter the country.
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Dec 15, 2014 04:22pm
@shakeel .There is only one good thing Congress did, i.e. not allowing your players to play in IPL.
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Dec 15, 2014 07:52pm
International hockey federation should also take a note on the hooting done by the crowd and ban international matches to be played in such venues.
And as for Indian hockey federation asking for apology or else they will not play with us.. Well we should not play with them unless they apologize for the poor behavior of their crowd.
Alas.. But all this and the statement from the coach. Why would our coach issue such a one sided statement. It is not reflecting the truth.
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Dec 16, 2014 12:32am
@SKS that's why future match of Pakistan should be in Sri Lanka or Bangladesh. Indian crowd behaved very badly with visiting Pakistan hockey team. Surprised FIH did not fine IHF.
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Dec 16, 2014 12:33am
@sandeep thakur most sensible comment. All contact should stop. International games, between these 2 countries should be in other neutral country.
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Dec 16, 2014 04:38am
It was Shehnaz's fault he should not have offered apology as Indian volley boll team after wining gold in saarc games Islamabad also celebrated by removing shirts and and dancing in the court at that point where was Indian media tit for tat. well said by captain if you do not have the courage to face defeats do not host any further matches in the India.
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Dec 16, 2014 06:00am
Let's face the facts: we won the game - apparently, beating India was enough for many of our 'fans' - but another Champions Trophy continues to elude us. For those who think beating India was enough, I have no words. Just remember, they have beaten us in every other field that truly matters. They are on track to be one of the world's major powers; Pakistan, however, will be lucky to survive into the next century. They just sent their firs rocket to space; we, meanwhile, have rockets trained on our people.
Not long ago, one of our boxers refused to shake the opponent's hands and stormed off after being awarded a silver medal at the Commonwealth Games because he was convinced he had been unfairly treated. I watched the fight. He was embarrassed by his opponent.
Point is, our players and sportsmen need to understand that their behaviour reflects poorly on all of us. And so must our own people. Honestly, I feel it should now be recognised as extremely important to have etiquette and behaviour training as part of all our sports camps.
However, if beating India continues to be us, well, let's have a week of celebrations, I guess. Sigh.
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Dec 16, 2014 07:06am
@Zak Why not stopped totally , Why neutral venue ? Stop Absolutely except the world affiliated games.
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Dec 16, 2014 08:13am
@Wasim Ahmed your "Tit for Tat" would have even stronger if Paki players would have celebrated like a decent bunch of players, The crowd which was hooting would have put their hats off......what they did proved atleast they are not worst than those in the crowd who were hooting..
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Dec 16, 2014 08:51am
@Sheikh Reyaz Ahmed it is not for removing the shirt, please read the new again...
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Dec 16, 2014 10:14am
@Weirdity says the indian, who lost and couldnt even secure a bronze medal and still crying because they were hurt by a few players' celebration
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Dec 16, 2014 10:28am
@david if he showed the middle finger he got suspended from the final and he may never get a chance to play in champions trophy final....what else punishment r u asking for..taking of shirts, dancing and silencing the crowd is very normal so my indian friends take a chill pill ..this is called sports..u win some and u lose some.
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Dec 16, 2014 05:06pm
...seriously speaking these guys need to get fit..they resemble more of Kabdi plyers than hockey
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Dec 17, 2014 06:49am
@Ilyas Well said.....exactly my point
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Dec 19, 2014 06:22pm
Sorry my dear brother u misunderstood us.....green colour is unseparatable part of or nation and national flag
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