I just went to the casino to have dinner: Moin Khan
Dawn Sport
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February 25, 2015
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Pakistan chief selector Moin Khan, under investigation by the cricket board for visiting a casino in New Zealand, has apologised for his actions but reiterated that he went there just to have dinner, DawnNews reported.
"I apologise if my actions caused any hurt to people in Pakistan. I just went to the casino to have dinner with some friends and nothing else," Moin said.
On Tuesday, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) launched an official investigation into reports that Moin had visited a casino shortly before Pakistan's loss to West Indies.
“There are widespread allegations into the conduct of the chief selector having brought the image of Pakistan and PCB into disrepute,” the Pakistan Cricket Board said in a statement on Tuesday.
PCB chairman Shaharyar Khan spoke with the chief selector and other members of team management by telephone on Tuesday, before ordering Moin to return home to clarify his position
“He's (Moin) been recalled immediately so that he can explain his position himself, and by which time we will also have a full picture,” Shaharyar said in Lahore.
Shaharyar said Moin acknowledged he went to the casino with his wife, and had dinner with their friend.
“When I told Moin there are lots of allegations against you, and even members of the Upper House discussed it in parliament today, he told me that all the accusations are wrong,” Shaharyar said.
“He was also disappointed. But he told me he went there to have dinner, and didn't do anything else.”
Pakistan has lost its two pool games against India and the West Indies, and next plays on Sunday against Zimbabwe. Just before the start of the World Cup, there were reports that eight Pakistan players were fined for breaching a team curfew.
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amman
Feb 25, 2015 04:04pm
So whats wrong if he went to a casino with his wife to have dinner?
Lets not blame him for the awful unprofessional performance of the cricket team on the ground with a personal decision by him.
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Naxalite
Feb 25, 2015 04:05pm
Its the shamelessness that irks me.
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A Pakistani
Feb 25, 2015 04:05pm
Was it Halal?????????... In Australia only Casino can provide dinner??????
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Naxalite
Feb 25, 2015 04:05pm
Because food is only served in Casino!
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Tanweer
Feb 25, 2015 04:08pm
Buddy, this dinner has proven to be pretty expensive!
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Irfan
Feb 25, 2015 04:09pm
your actions has damaged the respect of Pakistan and millions of Pakistanis. You should not be given any appology, no mercy
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Junaid G
Feb 25, 2015 04:12pm
@A Pakistani: Exactly. good point. neither of those questions are any of our concern. It was a private affair, we have let ourselves down by sensationalising it.
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zx
Feb 25, 2015 04:13pm
Its no ones business what he does off the field as long as it does not conflict with his job. PCB needs to worry about the game.. not anyones personal life.
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Mansoor
Feb 25, 2015 04:14pm
I live in overseas and all eatery places always situated inside Casino's establishment, so what is the big deal if he visited the casino for Supper/Dinner. Please guys come on be realistic try not to make it difficult for everyone and send wrong impression. Now everyone is taking this out of context. We cannot take burden of all illiterate people. Do your investigation first and then call him back this will bring more disgrace to us as nation and also in front of ICC. Looks like ICC not even interested as they know it is not a big deal.
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sheryaar
Feb 25, 2015 04:15pm
well we all know about the casino rules.. they dont serve u unless u play in casino.. also can moin khan explain that what halal items he can eat in casino? last but not the least how could he enter VIP room when he went there to eat only .. u have to have a good amount to enter VIP room.. pics of his wife was taken playing alone in casino.. so no more lies pls.. u are a corrupt person and u should be punished for ur actions
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Asif
Feb 25, 2015 04:15pm
During the worldcup each team member and management must listen Maulana Tariq Jameel Saheb BAyan after net practice sessions. Avoid going to the Casino and Adult Entertainment places.
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aym
Feb 25, 2015 04:21pm
what's wrong with us??
The issue is that he went to a casino; which brought shame to the country; on the other hand our team has lost both matches. Against the WI's; our top order bat's men were out in the first over!!
Isn't the team bringing more shame on our country than someone having steak in a casino?
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Raja
Feb 25, 2015 04:23pm
He is guilty on all counts and must be tried in Military Court.
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maazigar
Feb 25, 2015 04:23pm
where does he go to get a cold drink: a nightclub?
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AH
Feb 25, 2015 04:24pm
Immature behavior of Moin when Pakistani players and his past are tented with match fixing allegations and/or punishments to go to Casino for the dinner (God knows if he had some other business and that's also just before the Loss of Pakistan to WI)! It's not PCB's reaction to his visit, its world reaction to his visit to Casino and thats also shortly before Pakistan loss to WI! Are his timings right-no commonsense logic here.
PCB has the full right to esquire Moin on this! Had it been Australia or UK people there would have demanded resignation to tarnish the image of the country and the cricket board!
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shezad
Feb 25, 2015 04:24pm
His wife was carrying a lot of chips. And the couple were in a VIP lounge.
So either the casino was a make shift restaurant or his wife was eating chips for dinner.
Lies lies damn lies.
He went there on PCB's tickets so his visit was not a personal one.
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Another Pakistani
Feb 25, 2015 04:24pm
@Junaid G
No doubt it was personal affair.
But a visit to the casino by a senior official of the cricket team with lots of inside information could be very easily associated with illegal betting or benefiting from it. In which case the ICC and the western media may start a floodgate of "investigations".
I don't know if this constitutes a violation of disciplinary rules of PCB ( I doubt if the PCB has any disciplinary clauses in its contracts).
This was an extremely naive and foolish thing to do. I personally do no believe he is that simple.
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Muhammed ali
Feb 25, 2015 04:28pm
A casino of all places....I wonder what their halal menu offers.
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Jason
Feb 25, 2015 04:28pm
@Mansoor Judging from your English Skills, you don't look like you've ever lived overseas
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farhad
Feb 25, 2015 04:30pm
may be bookies are his " friends " as well.
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AH
Feb 25, 2015 04:32pm
@Junaid G Why private affair? Has he gone to WC on his own expense. Is he a spectator or a Pakistani fan? He's responsible of his action when Pakistani players are already tented with the match fixing punishment. Even Moin's own past is full of match fixing allegations. Even if he has gone for the dinner in Casino, and who knows why he went there, are the timings and the place right when Pakistan was about to see a humiliating defeat against WI?
For God sake, its not the PCB reaction, its the world reaction to the visit of Moin to Casino and who knows after one year we will be knowing whey he has actually visited! For now the reason is dinner.
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A Pakistani
Feb 25, 2015 04:34pm
@Junaid G ... It was not his personal matter as he was representing a Muslim country abroad on a very senior position...... He should accept that he was eating a non halal food / playing gamble...This is what a casino can offer..... On what basis he is with his family in Australia and also getting allowances ...The only reason is that he is representing Pakistan.I have been living abroad and for last 16 years and never had a problem in getting halal food....These questions are of our concern.
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Azmeen
Feb 25, 2015 04:34pm
Moeen must be tried for his selection of the team and purpose of his accompanying the team. Where he takes dinner in his free time is his personal matter. PCB should not try to use This dinner incident and should launch full fledged inquiry into the performance of its own officers that is evident from the performance of the selection and performance of the team.
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AH
Feb 25, 2015 04:34pm
@aym Its not wrong with us. Its world who pointed out the finger on Moin and that's why PCB has taken the action on this! Do we have people in PCB who are efficient to take such steps? They are under pressure by the world bodies especially when Pakistani players are already tented with match fixing punishments.
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Old Ravian
Feb 25, 2015 04:37pm
Mr. Moin, you don't go to Casino for dinner, you go for gambling. And with your reputation, one can very well imagine your intentions.
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Zafarullah
Feb 25, 2015 04:37pm
You don't need to apologize Moeen, it is just that we Pakistani's hate everything we can't or don't do our self.
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Ilyas
Feb 25, 2015 04:38pm
It was for people like him that Abraham Lincoln had said that you can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
His past, both on and off the field is too dodgy to be trusted.
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A Pakistani
Feb 25, 2015 04:38pm
@amman --- "So whats wrong if he went to a casino with his wife to have dinner?"
My friend, being a Muslim it is wrong....
But I agree he shouldn't be blamed for the awful unprofessional performance of the cricket team on the ground when the decision were made by coach, captain and team manager.
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Talha
Feb 25, 2015 04:40pm
@amman He had no role on the tour. He shouldn't have been on the tour in the first place.
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Shoaib Rehman
Feb 25, 2015 04:40pm
Oh come on Mr. Moin give me a break!!! Barefaced!
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Ahmed USA
Feb 25, 2015 04:40pm
Do they serve halal food in casino... Moin can you please answer that..
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Shahid
Feb 25, 2015 04:41pm
All your actions caused hurt to every Pakistani. Right from your team selections in the two series' in UAE to the selection of immatures like Ehsan Adil. And then you gambling while Pakistani people are moarning the state of the game. We in the west know that casinoes do not serve best of the foods, at least not Halal food. Your wife has been gambling which is seen by the eye witnesses. So do not add to your lies Mr. Moin. At the end want to say, its not your casino visit but your corrupt ways of selection which will make me happy if you are fired.
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Umer Ali
Feb 25, 2015 04:42pm
oh really. Were you on your personal trip?
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jsawaira@yahoo.com
Feb 25, 2015 04:43pm
@A Pakistani Former Pakistan cricket captain Moin Khan briefly arrested for beating wife
17.01.2007 | Source:
Pravda.Ru
Former Pakistan cricket captain Moin Khan was briefly arrested in the southern city of Karachi after his wife told police that he was drunk and beating her, police said Wednesday.
Khan, 36, was arrested at his home in the Clifton neighborhood of Karachi, the capital of southern Sindh province before dawn Tuesday. He was later freed on bail, said Azad Khan, an area police chief.
"We arrested him after his wife contacted police, saying her husband was drunk and beating her," he said.
Khan yelled at the police officers as they tried to arrest him, Azad said, adding that police produced Khan before a judge, who granted him bail.
According to Pakistan's largest circulation English-language newspaper The News, Khan did not return home after the incident, and instead sent a friend to collect his clothes and other belongings.
His wife Tasnim Khan alleged to the newspaper that her husband often used to beat her.
"I am not at fault and, honestly, I don't care if he returns or not," she said, adding that she would eventually seek a divorce.
Moin Khan was not available for comment, reports AP.
Khan, a wicketkeeper and a shining batsman, made his international debut against the West Indies in 1990-91, and was associated with the national team for more than 10 years.
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Shahid
Feb 25, 2015 04:43pm
@Junaid G , No you are wrong. It is not a privat matter when he is travelling as an Pakistani official. He may visit even worse places if and when he is on a privat visit. Even English board here would not have spared if their official was found to be in casino like this.
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Shdhsn
Feb 25, 2015 04:45pm
@A Pakistani - He might be eating seafood---- Next thing some will raise, why was he even out with his wife and friends---- This is too much.... Concentration should be on the players performance.
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ashish
Feb 25, 2015 04:46pm
like in PK movie Amir khan went to learn language and people guessed it otherwise !
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Moshim Khan
Feb 25, 2015 04:47pm
Misbah involved in Spot-Fixing during WC2011 semifinal. After that he was awarded with captaincy. Kamran Akmal did Spot-Fixing in 2010Australia tour.Eventually he exit SOHAIB AKHTAR for forever.
Honest cricketer like Abdul Razzaq, Imran Nazeer & Hammad Azam doesn't get chance to play more. ABDUL RAZZAQ is most valueable cricketer on planet.
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AJ
Feb 25, 2015 04:48pm
@Mansoor If you are living abroad then I do too for last 30 years. You must know that Moin's wife has been seen gambling by many witnesses. You must also know, that Casinoes do not serve halal food, and as we know moin wouldn't eat non-halal, he wasn't there for dinner. Thirdly, he is not on a privat visit. As an official he is not allowed to go gambling. Even the English board does not allow that.
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faisal
Feb 25, 2015 04:49pm
First of all I think Moin is a poor selector and should not be in this job. Having said that going to a casino is his personal business. All these overly conservatives shouting about HALAL FOOD, have you ever heard of seafood ? Shrimps Fish etc ? Grow up for Gods sake, just because you have never been out of Pakistan does not mean the world works according to your illogical thinking.
Peace
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Shdhsn
Feb 25, 2015 04:49pm
@sheryaar - your statement is absolutely incorrect- there is no such rule that one must play to get dinner. Do not mislead people.
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Hatim
Feb 25, 2015 04:51pm
So he is not coming back as claimed earlier by PCB? What a bunch of fools.
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Swaran singh
Feb 25, 2015 04:53pm
Going to Casino is no crime. He is not even a playing member. Concentrate on the game. I doubt the world cup is fixed by the betting syndicates. Players are small fries in this huge sea of corruption.
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Malik
Feb 25, 2015 04:55pm
I think PCB knows exactly that he did not go to casino only for a dinner. This is the reason PCB called him back home.
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A Pakistani
Feb 25, 2015 04:55pm
@Shdhsn ... Thanks for your comments Shdhsn (from India).... In casino even a seafood includes wine.......... It is not related to the team performances....... It is his personal affair that hurt his representation, his reputation and our feelings.
We will call this as his personal affair only If he would have gone to Australia privately and not on PCB's expense.
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Atif
Feb 25, 2015 04:56pm
Moin,
I apologise to you on behalf of my extremely emotional and irrational fellow country men and women who think spying on a private leisurely visit will suddenly prop them up to win the WC.
Ignore, we are just frustrated.
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Viking Star
Feb 25, 2015 04:57pm
@Junaid G
It IS a matter of concern.
1- First of all he is chief selector and hence he has got no right or cushion to go with the team on foreign tours.
2- He is traveling at the expense of PCB (not his own), so we surely would mind of his paid family holiday.
3- He held 2 positions illegally (Manager and Selector) and when asked to quit one, he chose to be the chief selector but (out of irregularity) asked for privilege to go with the team which was accepted out of norms.
4- Even if he went to the tour after all those irregularities, he should have controlled his temptations and avoid going to Casino while the team is already playing poor and there are protests back home.
5- Nobody goes to the Casino "just to have dinner". How many of the readers, their friends/family have specially gone to dinner at a Casino?
6- The Sethi/Waqar/Moeen trio have occupied PCB due to political influence, they are good for nothing and public should force them out of office.
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kashif
Feb 25, 2015 04:57pm
Useless Pakistanis...the whole nation is after poor Moin Khan
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Aamir
Feb 25, 2015 04:59pm
As usual CBM !!!
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Salim Khan
Feb 25, 2015 05:02pm
Going to casinos and having dinner is a common thing in western societies. Therefore. He should not be made a scapegoat. Can Mr.Shehryar tell us about how many times Mr.Najam Sehti went to a Casinos. May be many times? So what?
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Salman
Feb 25, 2015 05:03pm
yeah right, dinner in a casino; surely they serve better food than restaurants in australia.
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Azam Jamil
Feb 25, 2015 05:03pm
Moin's morals are not in question. His intelligence is!! How much IQ do you need to figure out that, as a member of the Pakistan cricket entourage, you need to keep away from such premises?? What if he was sitting at a bar and having a coke?? Wouldn't that be profoundly stupid?
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Nabeell
Feb 25, 2015 05:04pm
@Atif He was on an official trip, he should have dinner with players not at casino! he can enjoy whatever he likes but not on an official trip& on our tax money
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Naqvi R.
Feb 25, 2015 05:05pm
Those who don't know there are restaurants, entertainment hubs and casinos in the same building in New Zealand. I don't see any problem in Moin visiting the restaurant. We are making unnecessary fuss. At this point of time we should do moral support to the cricket team so that they can play better.
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Ali
Feb 25, 2015 05:07pm
@aym I agree, what possible impact does his going to a casino to eat dinner have on the bad performance of the Pak cricket team ? is it the reason for the teams failure, or was it the teams inability to perform that was the cause.
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Azam Jamil
Feb 25, 2015 05:08pm
The surprising thing is not that Moin was at the casino. The question to ask is why was the rest of the team not there?
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Logic
Feb 25, 2015 05:08pm
@sheryaar : You dont know anything and please dont try to generalise.
So what if he went to casino to have dinner? Guys take a chill pill and focus on cricket and not whether Moin Khan farts or how many times he takes his medicine.
Guys you cant vent your collective anger on a person like this.
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Wajid
Feb 25, 2015 05:10pm
Mr. Selector only found Casino for dinner, no wonder if he start ice skating on Cricket ground then....... wondering what Chief selector doing in World Cup along with his wife. The whole nation is facing what he selected back home.
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YOUKNOWIMRIGHT
Feb 25, 2015 05:11pm
Further to my earlier post, the comment from the PC explaining its decision to recall Moin says: “There are widespread allegations into the conduct of the chief selector having brought the image of Pakistan and PCB into disrepute.”
May I say, as someone with contacts across the Australian cricketing fraternity and people in general, it is the ridiculous decision by the PCB, perhaps fearful of, or perhaps already imbued with, the Gestapo-like mentality of people who must attach everything to religion that is, yet again, sadly, making Pakistan the laughing stock of the outside world. Keya kurreha Pakistan?
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Azam Jamil
Feb 25, 2015 05:12pm
@Naqvi R. Everyone knows there are restaurants in casinos. That is not the point. The question is did he not know better than to avoid such a location? Bar's also serve cokes but would you go to a bar to have a coke if you were representing your Country and had cameras on you? It's Moin's stupidity I'm surprised at.
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WTF
Feb 25, 2015 05:13pm
PCB needs a scapegoat for team's dismal performance.
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Azam Jamil
Feb 25, 2015 05:15pm
Of course Casinos have restaurants. So do brothels!!!
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M.M.Sherazi
Feb 25, 2015 05:16pm
Well if taking dinner in casino falls under the permissible laws of the PCB then it should not be taken too serious...but something...fishy is out in the air.....Najam Sethi should be distanced with cricket....it is a gang of disrepute people....Moin is just a puppet....
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Wandering Around
Feb 25, 2015 05:18pm
"Pakistan chief selector Moin Khan, under investigation by the cricket board for visiting a casino in New Zealand, has apologised for his actions but reiterated that he went there just to have dinner, DawnNews reported.:"
As long it was halal meat, no problem, hahahahahaha
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ziavrep labqi
Feb 25, 2015 05:18pm
@Tanweer
And he indirectly says that he went to have a free dinner.
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zak-i-chan
Feb 25, 2015 05:18pm
Yes I agree , i too was in same casino ,saw him having dinner , leave the poor scapegoat alone.
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jj
Feb 25, 2015 05:21pm
Why apologise. You din't do anything wrong. You just had dinner wether halal or not. You also have the right to enjoy yourself. The game is played by eleven members of a team on the ground not in a casino. This is the mind set of the people of the so called land of the pure. Hypocrites. Boozing around and smoking heroin/hasheesh in Pakistan is halal I assume.
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hnz
Feb 25, 2015 05:24pm
who cares ... if he has gone to casino or night club!!! None of our business.
We only care about the team performance... and unfortunately you have failed to deliver.
Seriously just concentrate on cricket and then you can do whatever you want... go to casino, drink, eat pork... at-least I don't care
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Prince
Feb 25, 2015 05:24pm
Lie over lie over lie. He expects us to believe him? What a joker. !
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venuBangalore
Feb 25, 2015 05:25pm
Why pcb and pakistan media making this a big news? going casino hotel for dinner is not mistake. its personal matter. in countries like australia, uk, and US most hotels are contains casino fecility.
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Ashraf
Feb 25, 2015 05:25pm
Let's take his word and say he went there to have dinner. My question is what did he have for dinner? Did he go to the sports bar they have or the cafe ? As a Muslim individual representing a Muslim country was it important to him to stay away from alcohol and pork meat or any other non-halal food? Please check the menu at the Christchurch Casino and see for yourself as to what he may have had for dinner. Living in the west for the past 35 years even we have to make sure these questions are answered before picking a spot to have dinner with the family. What about having a bit of common sense and thinking that with all the controversies faced by the team and even Moeen Khan himself he would have been a bit more careful.
Bottom line is they are all after some cheap fun at the expense of the country and have no moral footings to represent the country in any capacity.They need to be sacked including the Waqar and replaced with some men of character as you can find many individuals with a bit of character and skills to do the job at hand and that is the organization of Pakistan Cricket.
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Naveed ,USA
Feb 25, 2015 05:28pm
PCB ask your players to perform in the ground instead of Moin's personal matters,what if he has gone to take dinner with his wife and friends.
Upper house you are talking about,do they not dine in casinos,rather they do more than this.
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shainz123
Feb 25, 2015 05:28pm
may be by making moin khan as scapegoat, pakistani players will start moving there feets......he he
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Omar
Feb 25, 2015 05:30pm
Are we now judging how Muslim someone is? Of all the hypocrisy!!!
I have no issues with Moeen's behavior whatsoever but I question his judgement on the timing of it especially when the rest of the team is enduring curfew crackdowns ... That's irresponsible and more than a bit foolish ...
And for the rest wondering whether he ate Halal or not, that's his personal business not anyone else's!!!
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Vishal
Feb 25, 2015 05:30pm
Cool down folks. If you are eating late in the night, casinos are the only option sometimes. Don't look for some scapegoat , look at the real problem.
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Kakagan
Feb 25, 2015 05:32pm
what a place to dine...
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Omar
Feb 25, 2015 05:33pm
@Naxalite that even Pakistani Biryani
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KHADAGG CHAUDARY
Feb 25, 2015 05:33pm
@Irfan OH MY God what great sin.........pak team lost because of his casino visit . selector is to select the time only ...not to play on their behalf.
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Rameez
Feb 25, 2015 05:33pm
The first main thing is that why did even he ( cheif selector ) went on the tour with the team ? To select young lads from new zealand or australia ? and if he went with the team then in such a fragile sitation he should have been with the team 24/7 just to keep the spirits up of the team.Our Tax money was used so that he can have dinners in a casino?
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Vishnu Shankar
Feb 25, 2015 05:34pm
Can someone please tell me whats the issue here? Why should the guy apologize? I cannot honestly see whats the crime here, as the report talks about him going to a casino but no where is it explained what went wrong. Did he picked up a fight, did he cheat someone? Possible tie up with bookies or something? Whats wrong?
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KHADAGG CHAUDARY
Feb 25, 2015 05:35pm
They just want an easy escape goat...to blame .they should also call back all 8 player who broke curfew rule.
It just attitude of the and their poor performance.
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crew
Feb 25, 2015 05:36pm
he is actually under fire for his poor team selection. Dining in casino is provided a good reason to bash him
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Rogers Evans
Feb 25, 2015 05:43pm
He would have gone for dinner to a restuarant, not casino. He is telling a lie and must be relieved of all his duties. His dismissal will give lesson to all others. Casinos do not serve dinners.
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A Pakistani
Feb 25, 2015 05:45pm
@Vishnu Shankar -- Dear Vishnu ....Ask with 250 million Muslims in India... They will tell you what's wrong.
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Kaz
Feb 25, 2015 05:46pm
No reason to bash him any more , Lets just move on and support our Pakistani cricket team
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azadparinda
Feb 25, 2015 05:47pm
so much fuss over a non issue...the fuss should really be about how the team is playing and what needs to be done as a quick fix to ensure we stay in the competition.
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zabr e mohsin
Feb 25, 2015 05:50pm
this is unbelievable. moin being asked to explain his dinner at a casino.
so if pakistan had won; it was ok to eat at the casino ?
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Adil
Feb 25, 2015 05:52pm
Moin has only two questions to answer for:
1. If he gambled, was the money his own?
2. Was he in a casino in his own time or PCB time?
if he went there in his own time and spent his own money then he has NO case to answer. He has every right to do what he wants with his time and money. This is not the time to play that 'piety' card here.
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Taimur Malik
Feb 25, 2015 05:52pm
Lets be clear about one thing, either Moin did the wrong thing or the right thing, he should not be with team at first place so get him back and sort out the rest later, I am pretty sure once he is out of dressing room, these bunch of under performers can do better. Moin is not any big contributor anyway, all he is contributing to is defeats, he has no strategy, no game plan, no selection of players suit the conditions, he ignore players like Fawad, Sami and Malik. They all were best for this WC campaign so what we need him there for, by the way who goes to Casino for dinner?
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ga
Feb 25, 2015 05:53pm
Why are Pakistanis quiet when they know their relatives are siphoning of money from the national exchequer or accepting bribes? Why do they remain silent when a junior government officer builds a mansion using public money?
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Steak Sauce
Feb 25, 2015 05:57pm
Sheryar - I was born and raised in the US and I've travelled all over the globe. I've never been to a casino where the restaurants aren't separated from the gaming floor. You, sir, are simply a hater. It's sad!
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KHALID SOHAIL SHAIKH
Feb 25, 2015 06:04pm
Is this a suitable place to go with wife for dinner? If yes u r good.
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Ahmer
Feb 25, 2015 06:06pm
Good action by Shehryar. Moin is a blue eyed boy of Najam Sethi. He sent him and his wife to Australia.
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Nav
Feb 25, 2015 06:10pm
Who cares what he does in his personal time.
Paki media acting like Religion police.
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M Rabbani
Feb 25, 2015 06:15pm
@sheryaar First off, how do you know? Did you go to a casino? Second off, you are so off the mark its not even funny! They have actual restaurants where families can go, pay and eat. Get your facts straight sir...you obviously don't have a clue as to what you are talking about
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Asad Khan
Feb 25, 2015 06:16pm
This is all non sense.
So what if he had dinner that was not "halal" at the restaurant in the casino, plus maybe he had a nice salad or fish.
Also, if he played some fun roulette at the casino, why does it matter to cricket? It is the guy's personal matter, who are we to judge?
Do we all not have our own vices? (I do)
DO WE NOT ALL SIN, BUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY? (I do)
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haris
Feb 25, 2015 06:16pm
Tonight I am planning to go to Chinese restaurant to play a roulette... anyone interested?
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Hashmat
Feb 25, 2015 06:17pm
He is the person who was the leader for ICL, give an end to Abdul razzaq, Yousaf yohana and many more careers. How you can go to casino when your team is in trouble, for which reason you want to go. You are responsible and no need for apology.
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haris
Feb 25, 2015 06:17pm
Chief selector touring with the team ... this only happens in Pakistan.
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Aslam
Feb 25, 2015 06:19pm
@Irfan You can give mercy to your corrupt leaders and bureaucrats though, who loot and plunder your country. What is wrong with going into casino and have dinner there.
Why you allowed your team to go to Australia where there are casinos and other odd things that are not considered halal in Pakistan?
We are just nation of people who focus on non-issues. We need to change the character of the nation, to make it simple.
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M Rabbani
Feb 25, 2015 06:19pm
@aym Please explain how it brought shame to our country? So he went he played, he is answerable to Allah alone! Talibans, that wear the false mask of religion, just because they don't go the casino bring so much respect to our nation and religion! You guys really need to open your MINDS and stop spouting off like blubbering idiots. I am shocked at some of the comments below....people talking like they are subject matter experts when they have ALL their facts wrong! Now I understand why each time I see people on the road, why I have this sudden urge to slap them!
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Imtiaz hamid
Feb 25, 2015 06:20pm
@Steak Sauce primary business of casino is gambling everything else is to facilitate it.they were good resturants even famous chefs ,great singers and interesting shows. But it certainly looks bad and may be against team policy. Did he bet on any cricket match? If you are team official you cannot give an impression of impropriety. Especially with a match fixing scandal few years ago.
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Ikram
Feb 25, 2015 06:22pm
Casinos are where bets are placed. Was he betting on the PakistanI team?. We are known for giving up games because of bets.
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known
Feb 25, 2015 06:22pm
It shows he might be involved in other wrongdoing as well.
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M Rabbani
Feb 25, 2015 06:24pm
@A Pakistani and I take it you do everything by the book!! I bet if you were allowed a chance to go to a casino you would be the first one there!
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Aslam
Feb 25, 2015 06:24pm
@sheryaar How many times have you been to Casino? Please let us know first so that we could discuss your point of view.
Do you live overseas? Did you ever play in Casino?
Please don't try to fool people!
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M Rabbani
Feb 25, 2015 06:26pm
@AJ Wow you are really interested in what he eats or does not eat! You have little fun stuff happening in your life right? Seriously get a life...or get a second job...because you are obviously quite farigh!
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Timtom
Feb 25, 2015 06:29pm
Why all this Hallaboo..He should have been asked for explanation once PAK returned from rather than adding to list of complaints and insults already incurred or should have been let off with 230$ fine as is PCB norm is. After all Moin, Mushtaq Ahmed and Waqar Younis were part of the elite personnel listed in Justice Qayyum report. They have all been duly awarded by PCB for their extra ordinary contributions during their hay days. What else was to be expected ?
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M.Mirza
Feb 25, 2015 06:31pm
I think MK will be back in Australia after providing satisfactory wazahat at the casino called PCB...
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Marl
Feb 25, 2015 06:40pm
I used to work in Grosvenor house casino in London few years back. Trust me more than 60% of customers were Pakistanis. It does not mean they were all there for gambling. You can always have dinner and sit and watch others play. So get over it and concentrate on the next matches guys.
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Zulfiqar
Feb 25, 2015 06:45pm
@Ahmed USA whether he wants to eat halal or non halal is his personal choice. Why are u assuming that he went I eat halal. Bad judgement from him though!
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M. Saeed Awan
Feb 25, 2015 06:50pm
To have dinner with BOOKIE
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Hasan
Feb 25, 2015 06:52pm
@A Pakistani . Why should it matter to YOU if it is halal or not.
I don't see why is it an issue of Moin going to the casino even if he went there to bet some money. Atleast he did not steal, contaminate milk, provide unhygienic food to people, or blackmail someone which are some of the opprobrious things people do in our country without any action taken against them.
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M. Saeed Awan
Feb 25, 2015 06:54pm
@Mansoor You are unaware about Moin's past illegal actions. So the people doubt on him. Please correct your information.
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Bitter Truth
Feb 25, 2015 06:56pm
One thing is proved " Mr Moin Khan is a poor Selector" He even could not select a better place for dinner or meeting with match fixers.
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Paksitani
Feb 25, 2015 06:57pm
You know what is public concerns about this report? once Mr. Moin went with team management as a rep of Pakistan cricket Board by virtue of his appointment he should have some respect by avoiding this kind of act.
The moment this report came on air then public objected that as rep of Board/Muslim he had non Halal food and his action damaged name to this country.
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vijay
Feb 25, 2015 06:58pm
Moin Khan was sent to Australia to think about Cricket and cricket only. If he is going to a Casino then this is a definite distraction as gamblers think a lot about gambling and nothing else. Casinos never feed people unless they gamble.
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Mustafa Alvi
Feb 25, 2015 06:58pm
Moral Policing at its best :)
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khawreen3002@hotmail.com
Feb 25, 2015 07:02pm
@aym Is he not the managing of the same team who ashamed you?
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waseemoscow
Feb 25, 2015 07:02pm
Now Its become a tradition
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Wc
Feb 25, 2015 07:02pm
So much hullabaloo on a dinner at casino??? I see vested interests in blaming admin people rather than players. Families do go to casinos for dinner. As the environment is quite different. And they enjoy it too. There is no big deal. Spare these people and ask players to play well. They are not kids to be taught every time. They are lax, over confident, ill mannered, and it's their nature. So how can an org change nature of well grown Giants. This is what you learn at school or when you are a child. So basically Pakistan's grass root management is wrong. You just teach them hatred, ideologies, impatience, and all negative things. So the product would be what your team is. So leave this blame game and introspect a bit.
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rahim
Feb 25, 2015 07:02pm
the question is not that he went to a casino.It is in what capacity he was in that city. not as moin khan but as a representative of Pakistan (cricket board).
He was an ambassador of our country.
He was representating us.
Now it is also pertinent on ARY to place the truth nothing but the truth before Pakistanis
Yahya Hussaine whose name was also mentioned must place the truth before general public as he was there representing Geo television
Be patriotic and tell the truth.
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A Pakistani
Feb 25, 2015 07:03pm
@Hasan -- Moin didn't go on his own but he went there to represent Pakistan on the expense of PCB.............. AND Thank GOD it does matter to me if it is halal or not.
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qaisar
Feb 25, 2015 07:08pm
What does his casino going to do with bad balling, batting, and fielding. The upper house in Parliament talked about it like they all follow islam by heart. Bunch of hypocrites
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Imran Ahmad
Feb 25, 2015 07:10pm
So what? This is a nonissue. Yes, you can go to a casino to eat without having to gamble.. We should be supporting our team not threatening them. THIS IS A SPORT right?
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public
Feb 25, 2015 07:14pm
There is more to it than meets the eye. No big deal if he went to Casino; this was an excuse to decide who was the boss between Old Shahryar and puncture man. Moeen had gone at the pleasure of Sethi and rest is clear.
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Fayaz
Feb 25, 2015 07:22pm
This is totally a private issue of MK. This has become a public issue only because we lost the match, otherwise there is nothing in this at least for me
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Zubaida Khan
Feb 25, 2015 07:30pm
On my travels through out the non-muslim world I have been hard pressed to find places that are "Islamic." Most places serve wine, or other alcohol beverages, because that is where the largest margins of profits are. Casinos are well known to have a good food for lower prices than anywhere else. Not everyone goes to a casino to gamble.
In the US the largest ijtima of the Tablighi Jamaat is usually held in Las Vegas. The simple reason is the cost. it is so much more cheaper to hold a huge event in Vegas than at other places. Try New York and you will go bankrupt.
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Mansoor
Feb 25, 2015 07:34pm
@Jason don't worry about my English. My intention was to send message across and did reach to people. This will clearly describes state of your mind instead of debating on the issue you personally attacking people. Please grow up.
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Junaid
Feb 25, 2015 07:35pm
"On Tuesday, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) launched an official investigation into reports that Moin had visited a casino shortly before Pakistan's loss to West Indies ."
Above is the piece of news that bothers me most. It is not the visit to the casino for dinner but the timing of the visit that bothers me. As an official of the team he should have been more concerned with the match result and performance of the team and stayed there till the match had finished.
I can not imagine of enjoying a dinner in casino if my team ( including whole Pakistan) is going through the agony of a shameful loss. Timing of the dinner should be questioned and clearly shows his weak link with the team.
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Asif Kidwai
Feb 25, 2015 07:36pm
Give it a rest before judging him, that is the best part of being Pakistani as we love to judge other and I am sure if you all who supposedly be talking about him going to casino and eating non halal food would be doing the same if had opportunity. No wonder our country is in shambles because of the crap we pretend to show the world that we are very good people. What a Joke and waste time it is.
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Hasan
Feb 25, 2015 07:36pm
@A Pakistani let me rephrase my question. "Why does it matter to YOU if HE is eating halal food or not"
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Junaid
Feb 25, 2015 07:39pm
@Mansoor Pay attention to the news more closely. The time of dinner " Shortly before the match ended" . If he is in any official capacity with the team he should have been concerned and canceled the dinner, regardless. We ,as fans were more concerned then him and couldn't swallow a single piece of bread looking at 4 for 1.
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Steak Sauce
Feb 25, 2015 07:40pm
some of the comments on this board are hilarious. People questioning Moin whether he ate halal or gambled. You guys need to check yourselves and stop pretending as if you've never commuted a sin.
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Syed
Feb 25, 2015 07:41pm
Dinner at 3am ?
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Rashid Ansari
Feb 25, 2015 07:51pm
I lived in Australia almost 10 years and never ever visited casino for dinner. Moin Khan should know that there is no Halal food in Australian casinos and there are very limited restaurants which provide Halal food. Why then he has selected casino - just to eat salad but there is no guarantee that salad is free from the alcohol spreads. Casino in Australia does not make lentil and rice (Dal & chawal) - so that is also not an incentive!!!
He is just making fool of Pakistani public - instead of concentrating on cricket and making a wise decision, he is just wasting the money of PCB. He should give us a logical explanation - why after winning the toss Pakistan decided to bowl first, considering that we have a poor record of chasing the runs. Why Younus Khan is playing after failing again and again. Mr Moin should concentrate on the cricket and not on the casino. It is just sad to say that we have now no pride now and we take an important matches as picnic party. I am now warning that if Pakistan plays the same way as they did in the last two matches, it will be very difficult for them to even beat Zimbabwe or any other team.
Mr Moin should be punished and should not be holding any position in PCB. He has no contribution to show to stay with PCB.
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Ali
Feb 25, 2015 07:52pm
Let's say he went there to gamble... What about the shameless 4 players ther went back to the pavillion without scoring a run? Are those all involved too? Then recall the entire team!
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Ramesh
Feb 25, 2015 07:53pm
He doesn't get it. He must be punished. His crime is going to a casino just for a dinner and not for what one goes to casino. No wonder, he is not able to help the team.
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javed qamer
Feb 25, 2015 07:54pm
Moin is the same person who will aspersions on everybody. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
Fire him for bringing bad name to the the pristine game of cricket.
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Rashid Ansari
Feb 25, 2015 07:55pm
@Zafarullah
Your comments are not realistic!!!
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maher ihsan
Feb 25, 2015 07:56pm
i think he is scapegoat and he should not go to casino too when your team is not performing and your past is not clean too you should becarefull but again he is from Pakistan.
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Junaid
Feb 25, 2015 08:04pm
The issue is not that he went to casino with his wife. The issue is about the timing of the visit, the night before the match. The bigger question that need to be asked is that why PCB has paid for his wife to go. No where in the world any company will pay for their employees family to accompany them. Secondly, in what cricket board does a chief selector travels with the team. I realize Moin put that condition in his employment contract but why did PCB agreed to that. If he loved traveling then he should have stayed a manager only but obviously selector gets paid more than the manager.
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Saeed Ahmed
Feb 25, 2015 08:04pm
Forget the casino. I am more interested in knowing why he went to Australia in the first place? PCB is conveniently mum on this point.
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fact
Feb 25, 2015 08:05pm
selector + casino = betting (against his own team, because he knows everything before hand)
if you guys still dont get it .. i pity your i.q.
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rashid
Feb 25, 2015 08:05pm
@Mansoor .He wasnt their for personal tour he is been paid by Pakistani people he reprezent Muslims from Pakistan that is not our culture.
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Sid
Feb 25, 2015 08:06pm
@amman I don't believe people are blaming him for the teams performance.. The blame is because he went to an inappropriate place while on official duty. Inappropriate not because its un-Islamic but given all the fixing issues surrounding Pakistan cricket, he decided to have dinner in the home of the fixing world (where risk of meeting fixers is high).. He should have stayed away to save the integrity of Pakistani cricket!
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allaisa
Feb 25, 2015 08:10pm
In the land of the pure, I know you have to be a Muslim and 'ameen' (whatever it means) to be the Prime Minister or the President but you can do lot of other things which a civilized world considers barbaric, but going to a casino is also banned?
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A Pakistani
Feb 25, 2015 08:11pm
@Hasan ... My answer is question .... He was in Australia/NZ to represent Pakistan. It does matter to every Pakistanis... Not sure about you.
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MJ
Feb 25, 2015 08:14pm
The casino was serving halal dinner that he could not find elsewhere :)
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malzy
Feb 25, 2015 08:15pm
He should be canned for terrible Selection decisions that he made. Like near 'Criminal Exclusion' of Fawad Alam
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hyat
Feb 25, 2015 08:17pm
they already have bad impression in past having relation with gamblers.they could have to avoid this.
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Syed Ahmed, Canada.
Feb 25, 2015 08:18pm
Idiot couldn't find dinner any where else. There are quite a few Halal restaurants in Perth, Australia.
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RiZwan
Feb 25, 2015 08:20pm
Ask moin khan what kinda halal food he ordered in the casino?
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Anwar Ahmad
Feb 25, 2015 08:20pm
In places where gambling is legal, it is common to have restaurants inside Casinos. Even petrol pumps (known as gas stations) have gambling machines readily available.
Moin Khan has become a victim of ignorance.
Not good.
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Steak Sauce
Feb 25, 2015 08:24pm
@Rashid Ansari - and I bet you're a perfect "muslim"? Not questioning your dedication to your faith, just asking. Pathetic.
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dawn
Feb 25, 2015 08:31pm
This Shaharyar Khan is saying,"it is ok for Moin to visit the Casino'.
Birds of the same feather flock together.
So are they flying him south again with all expenses paid?
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Sumant Bhalla
Feb 25, 2015 08:36pm
You Pakistanis are so silly its amazing.
The guy went to dinner, so what??
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MS
Feb 25, 2015 08:38pm
I'm feeling hungry guys.... anyone know where the closest casino is?? ;-)
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SHAHZAD
Feb 25, 2015 08:39pm
Please people stop taking Moins side, first thanks for his serivice to pakistan and its cricket but he has to go now, ask any former cricketer he is the biggest gambler ever. and what business does he have as selector in Australia? I thought selectors are there to find talent in pakistan not in Australias casinos.
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Arif Mobeen
Feb 25, 2015 08:42pm
This is a personal matter and we should not judge people like this..He could be drinking or gambling but it's up to you. He should only be held accountable on his cricketing conduct and performance. Having said that, Moin always had a negative influence on the team so good he's no longer there.
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Shader am
Feb 25, 2015 08:43pm
Given the intelligence level in the country, Moin khan's explanation wholly plausible. AND he is apologizing for eating food!! . Amazing is word apt for the Chief.
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kamran
Feb 25, 2015 08:46pm
Scapegoat time.. and Moin you are it !!!
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Syed
Feb 25, 2015 08:52pm
As long as he apologize, it shouldn't be an issue. Media shouldn't go behind him and respect his apology
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Ayesha
Feb 25, 2015 08:52pm
@Asif please stop. It's no ones business where anyone eats or does in their own time. Religious policing is absolutely wrong. It's cricket for crying out loud.
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Kellogg
Feb 25, 2015 08:57pm
@amman Pakistani cricketers have been caught match fixing. Moin is in a position of authority. Why would he want to go to a casino during the world Cup. When you are in a position of authority your public life is not separate from your private life. What he did is wrong.
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Imran A.
Feb 25, 2015 08:57pm
It is the lack of seriousness from your behaviour shows that you are focused on pleasing yourself, your family and friends instead of focusing on Cricket. It shows you have no interest with the success of the team. You don't deserve to be in the selection process. You need to understand a frivolous behavior trickles down in the team members. Sorry!
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rashid
Feb 25, 2015 08:58pm
@Shdhsn .This is so shameful what u saying.
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Arif - San Fran
Feb 25, 2015 09:02pm
Haha - haha - isn't Pakistans and PCB's repute already at Rock bottom. Poor Moin can't even have dinner with peace
"having brought the image of Pakistan and PCB into disrepute,” the Pakistan Cricket Board said in a statement on Tuesday. disrepute"
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rashid
Feb 25, 2015 09:04pm
@Salim Khan ,hahaha ......good one,you mean all of them are bench of .........
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ahsan7979
Feb 25, 2015 09:07pm
If anyone has visited Casinos in Vegas, they have the best buffet of food in All of US. I am sure this may be enough reason for him to try out food in a Casino...
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FT
Feb 25, 2015 09:08pm
Come on now; give the guy a break. Why cant Pakistani leave hypocrisy...
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Javed USA
Feb 25, 2015 09:12pm
PCB desperately attempting to find shoulders to blame for the team's dismal performance. What a day!!
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Riaz
Feb 25, 2015 09:17pm
But what is he doing in Australia in the 1st place? Isn't his job done after selecting his favorites, and discarding the real talent which he didn't like? Shouldn't he be in Pakistan, as a chief selector discovering new talent? And what role is his wife playing there on public money? Should the PCB be spending that money of developing the cricket in Pakistan?
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Matloob khan
Feb 25, 2015 09:20pm
only casino is a place where food can be served
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Paksitani
Feb 25, 2015 09:22pm
@Wc Then why he claimed that he is Muslim and being rep of Pakistan Cricket Board went to Casino what for? there are hundreds of questions, because of the current trend of gambling in Cricket. How can one trust on his act?
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glassyman
Feb 25, 2015 09:28pm
Well.... they did everything other playing good cricket.....
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Sal
Feb 25, 2015 09:29pm
There is no blame for the poor performance. However, it is against rules to go any casino if anyone associated with any professional game. Pakistani do not have a good track records for fixing the match. In any case, if he is not educated enough to know then it is time for him to go. Anyway, after this poor performanc, everyone who is responsible for selecting the team, coaching and all board members should resign.
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Aysha
Feb 25, 2015 09:32pm
@Muhammed ali, Should that be your business if he ate "HALAL" food or not?
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Me
Feb 25, 2015 09:34pm
@Mansoor going to dine at 3 am in the night hnmmmm
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Meethi Methai
Feb 25, 2015 09:34pm
Live and let live Pakistanis
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parveez
Feb 25, 2015 09:36pm
Is this guy for real, yes casino do lovely food, but that is the last place you go to for dinner only.
If this guy had any brain, then should know better. This is only because he is repsenting Pakistan.
I have no problem with him going to the casino othrwise.
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Pir Qudratullah Qudrat
Feb 25, 2015 09:40pm
There are some really good eateries serving 'halal' steaks in Australia and New Zealand casinos. Also around the world places like Las Vegas, Macau and Atlantic City have restaurants inside casinos. Dear Pakistanis grow some sense and stop embarrassing yourselves!
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Ilyas
Feb 25, 2015 09:40pm
@Mansoor May be when one cant answer a question, he/gets into unimportant issues like error-free English in a comment on a blog.
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Amin
Feb 25, 2015 09:42pm
So what if he went to the Casino?! Whether he went there to have dinner or gamble, what difference does it make? Is that why we lost? Are we the Taliban that we won't allow him to do that? Absolute rubbish!
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Atif
Feb 25, 2015 09:49pm
@Nabeell
As chief selector, he is not allowed to mingle with the players as per the PCB policy.
PCB is NOT running on tax payer's money. It is an independent organisation, or at least it is meant to be, but our PM keeps meddling into it.
Also, even when you go on foreign tours on conferences, you are not tied up 24 by 7. You are allowed leisure time outside, and you can spend it however you want, so far you do not violate the local law.
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atif
Feb 25, 2015 09:54pm
@Syed yeah, outing in the bar took lot of time; thats y he went to casino at three
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atif
Feb 25, 2015 09:58pm
@Jason dear, is it necessary that he lived in an english speaking country. he might have good french or german linguistic skills
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Virumandi
Feb 25, 2015 09:58pm
Happens only in Pakistan. Sue the players if they don't win. Drag the coach to the court if he goes for the party. A great nation indeed.
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Virumandi
Feb 25, 2015 10:00pm
@Syed Ahmed, Canada. - So, you will starve to death if you dont have a "Halal" restaurant in your vicinity? You will be cut off from entering jannath for having a "non-halal" meat?
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Virumandi
Feb 25, 2015 10:00pm
@A Pakistani -Seems like Zia Ul Haq's legacy is still on you.
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M. H
Feb 25, 2015 10:09pm
Every one is missing the point - Did he go to casino to bet against his own team?
This begs the question did he bet alone or on behalf of the whole team and PCB?
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Tangerine
Feb 25, 2015 10:12pm
What a simple person he is!
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Rocky
Feb 25, 2015 10:15pm
@A Pakistani casino dinners are usually the cheapest.
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Vish
Feb 25, 2015 10:22pm
Yes, Moin went to the casino only to have dinner. In fact, the entire team has gone to Australia and New Zealand only to have dinner. What is wrong in that?
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Pathan
Feb 25, 2015 10:22pm
@sheryaar What if Moin decides he doesn't want to eat Halal and doesn't care if he eats non-Halal items?????? Surely, that's a personal decision as well as having a drink, and dancing away in night clubs.
He's in a different country where all of those are legal.
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Asad
Feb 25, 2015 10:24pm
@sheryaar Who on earth said that's true? Where are you getting this information from?
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Rev. Eldrick Lal
Feb 25, 2015 10:26pm
Why did you go to casino to have dinner? Because casinos serve free dinner. Get rid of this poor mentality since the PCB dole you traveling allowances, which covers your dinner also. Second question, was the dinner halal? I'm sure casinos are not halal in any world religion.
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Bobby
Feb 25, 2015 10:31pm
That is why Pakistan is a mess. It is the small things that matter
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Samad Chaudhry
Feb 25, 2015 10:36pm
What a joke"!
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RagBag
Feb 25, 2015 10:42pm
From India this sounds surreal.
So he went to a casino. Thousands of tourists do that.
And Macau, Las Vegas have an economy built on that business.
And the man says just went for dinner! What is the issue? He did not gamble. Just believe him when there is proof he did something wrong, like that Bangladeshi player who was packed home.
It seems the silly season has come to Pakistan, after they lost 2 matches. Everyone has gone bonkers.
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Zombie_Rules
Feb 25, 2015 10:53pm
Just to avoid the poor and shameful performance of Pakistan, PC is trying to show a new game by starting blames on Moin Khan to avoid answering for performance. Whats a big deal if he went casino for dinner or what so ever? its his personal life
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baig
Feb 25, 2015 10:55pm
This is getting ridiculous, clearly Moin has little understanding off consequence. At the very least it's in bad taste to appear this unsupportive and choice of venue is much to be desired. Regardless if it's all innocent. The message is he doesn't care. No point in playing like a school boy I'm sorry nonsense. Time to man up, take it on the chin and resign. Moon has no legs to stand on. If people don't understand responsibility and think this is alright then they have a completely warped moral compass.
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Tinkoo
Feb 25, 2015 10:57pm
Is it a crime to visit a Casino ? making a scapegoat of teams failure is old habit of people? Let people live in peace and enjoy their lives and who are we to act as a Moral Policeman ?
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Ayesha
Feb 25, 2015 10:59pm
For the sake of argument if we say there is nothing wrong in going to a casino, but how could Moin Khan thought of going out with his wife and friends to have dinner soon after Pakistan lost the match against the west indies. That was no time for celebration, and casino is not the only place where food is available. In fact, if i was him i wouldn't have felt hungry, because of the team's poor performance. But most of our players are characterless, they want to party all the time. Kick him out!!!!!!!!!!!
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jahangir
Feb 25, 2015 11:00pm
There is something called ethics and moral values. Is the casino only place to have dinner?
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Omar
Feb 25, 2015 11:03pm
This is not news. He can go eat wherever he wants and go gamble if that's what he wants to do. Focus on the Cricket team players which is where our efforts should be directed.
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Arshad
Feb 25, 2015 11:05pm
If we had won both India and West Indies games, do you think anyone would have noticed Moin Khan having dinner in a Casino?
Think about it.
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Islooite7
Feb 25, 2015 11:10pm
What nonsense, thousands of Muslim families from all over the world visit casinos I'm Atlantic City and Las Vegas. Many casinos are worth seeing. There are million other things to do like hoteling, video games for kids, resturants to eat, buffets, music and magic shows etc etc... Please grow up people...
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aziz
Feb 25, 2015 11:10pm
@A Pakistani Let's leave Halal or non-Halal food to him and his Allah. You should worry about your intake.
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Imran Bhatti
Feb 25, 2015 11:13pm
yes. he showed big heart as asked for apology.
return him favour.
he went to casino for dinner, as under those circumstances that was the only place to get HALAL food.
And Lastly, Bad habits never die!
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Shahram Khan
Feb 25, 2015 11:17pm
@A Pakistani at 3am in the morning in New Zealand only Hotels that have Casinos that have Restaurants are open and a couple of Turkish Doner Kebab may be if you are lucky.
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Parvez
Feb 25, 2015 11:21pm
His selection for a place to have dinner.............was as bad as his selection of the team.
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syed
Feb 25, 2015 11:32pm
casinos. that where people go for ' dinners' . correct ?
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Rkan
Feb 25, 2015 11:40pm
@Nabeell The PCB probably provided him airfare , hotel and food fare. But if he spends his own money on other entertainment on his free time, then what is the problem?
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Nauman Afridi
Feb 25, 2015 11:41pm
Can anyone prove he gambled in the casino and ate non-halal? If you cannot prove it, he is not guilty.
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Nauman Afridi
Feb 25, 2015 11:41pm
Going to the Casino is OK - Gambling is NOT OK
Eating Vegetarian in Casino is OK - Even if Casino does not serve halal.
All the people here:
Moin is Guilty ONLY if can be proved that
a) He went to Casino and Gambled
b) He went to Casino and ate non-halal meat
Can anyone prove it? If not, Moin is not guilty
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ooptimist
Feb 25, 2015 11:42pm
Who are his friends, let the friends speak up. Moin is made the scape goat just because he is stupid and greedy. Why did he go to WC with his wife, to advise on the best 11 out of 15.
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Jatt
Feb 25, 2015 11:48pm
@A Pakistani Why does it bother you if it was halal or not, let him eat what he wants.
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Jatt
Feb 25, 2015 11:49pm
@shezad What do you want him to do at night he has done his duty in the day and at night he is free to do what he wants.
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S Bashir
Feb 25, 2015 11:49pm
I think the caretakers should be little broadminded and get out of the box.
If Moin went to the Casino in his own time, so what. There is no harm in seeing Casino and having dinner in the Casino. As a Muslim, he is not supposed to gamble but there is no restriction in watching a Casino. World is looking at us and laughing on us. These things should not be exploited to the extent that they become news.
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Shahid
Feb 25, 2015 11:50pm
@Jason Lol great one there Jason..fantastic comment.
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dilip
Feb 25, 2015 11:52pm
@A Pakistani - Is Fish considered Halaal? Whenever my muslim friends accompany me for dinner, they invariably always order sea food.
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FF
Feb 25, 2015 11:57pm
Maybe he went to the Casino to bet on Pakistan. If he did is he still guilty of something?
Get a grip people. He can do whatever he wants just as long as he doesn't break the law.
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Indian
Feb 25, 2015 11:59pm
> I just went to the casino to have dinner: Moin Khan
Are you an idiot or you thinks that others are?
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Nadeem
Feb 25, 2015 11:59pm
even if he did play so what ??? better than other bad stuff we do
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Indian
Feb 26, 2015 12:01am
@amman "So whats wrong if he went to a casino with his wife to have dinner?"
He didn't went to any hotel. He went to a casino when he was on an official trip. Casino is a good place to meet match fixers.
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shami
Feb 26, 2015 12:03am
In about 99.99% casinos of the world, there is only served beer and wine or other alchoholic or non-alcoholic (like apfel-shorle or cola). I have never seen a casino where you get the dinner as well. So his claim is totally false. I just wonder why he is telling alie. If he went to casino he can just say he went to make fun or enjoy his holiday. And that's it! any why is PCB targeting only him of all the bad performance of the team.
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Intellectual
Feb 26, 2015 12:04am
I just went to the Casino to have my dinner---at 3:30 in the morning---and fail to understand what for is all this fuss about ?
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sfoman
Feb 26, 2015 12:07am
@A Pakistani A lot of Muslim eat meat in Restaurants that is not cut in a Halal way. Its a personal decision that each Muslim have the right to make.
however, all lamb that is sold in Australia and New Zealand is halal
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Parvez
Feb 26, 2015 12:20am
......and I go to MacDonalds to gamble.
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A. Ahmad
Feb 26, 2015 12:23am
I live in US and as much as I don't like to defend him or his actions, let me say that there is nothing unusual about his visit that I find. I think the reason he is under the microscope is because of the games that we lost, which may have little relevance to this episode. Anyway, he is back -- chapter closed, and let's refocus on the games!
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Khalid
Feb 26, 2015 12:25am
@Junaid G Fully agree with you brother.
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Khalid
Feb 26, 2015 12:29am
@sheryaar Who are you to ask whether it was halal or not?. In a country where everybody tells lies, everyone tries to cheat everyone else, no one is safe at home, no one is safe in the car, 100s of phones are snatched every day, drugs dealers on every street corner you want to find out if it was halal food?. Please don't put your nose where it doesn't belong.
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Usman
Feb 26, 2015 12:35am
Its always the same excuse whenever a Pakistani team (or management: as it is in MK's case) member is caught staying out late at night.
"We went out for dinner."
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Googlie
Feb 26, 2015 12:35am
The problem with lies is that they don't have legs to stand on!
MK's boss needs to be fired ASAP otherwise Shariffs should be ready to pay a heavy price for their 35 punctures!
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Dr. Sehar Khan
Feb 26, 2015 12:38am
@Aysha ...Well Said!!!
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Ish
Feb 26, 2015 12:41am
@sheryaar LOL. Says who that you need to play at a casino to be able to have dinner. Not true at all. Stop making baseless assumptions. And how do you know he didn't have fish or vegetable entree for his meal
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Zo
Feb 26, 2015 12:42am
That is a bit dodgy, but nevertheless, it is his choice to go to a casino or not. Would they have made such an issue if he just went out with his wife to have dinner in some restaurant. With these sort of allegations and issues for the Pakistan Cricket Board to sort out, I am not least surprised that the more important aspects need to be given priorities to.
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Murtaza Mandvi
Feb 26, 2015 12:49am
Halal or not is a personal choice, whoever is commenting about was the food halal should understand that religion is by choice and not force...having said that, I think he should have avoided outings when the team was in dire straits (whether gambling or food outing), if the team had won, no one would have noticed.
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Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad
Feb 26, 2015 12:55am
What else can he say?
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Ahmed
Feb 26, 2015 01:00am
Some casino serve u free food and drinks as long as u r gambling so he might went for a free meal
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OutSwing
Feb 26, 2015 01:04am
@dilip Yes, Fish is halal. Ask your Muslim friends for detail next time you go for dinner and you have every right to know since you have more Muslims in India than on Dawn or even in whole Pakistan.
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msm
Feb 26, 2015 01:14am
@Raja OMG!!!!!!
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Ali Jamal
Feb 26, 2015 01:14am
y is he getting $300 daily allounce with heafty Paycheck...
What did he ever do to deserve this (as a selector i.e.)?
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Imran
Feb 26, 2015 01:34am
@dilip yes most fishes are halal.
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Manoj
Feb 26, 2015 01:39am
What a drama!!!!
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Kumar
Feb 26, 2015 02:01am
Sky City casino in New Zealand has the best food and is a MUST to visit if you are in Auckland...especially the revolving resturant. Waqar Younis was in Christchurch with his wife and family Antarctica Centre...and it has attached food place as well. Leave them alone guys. It is their private life and private affair.
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N.khan
Feb 26, 2015 02:13am
Mr.Moin khan u can eat where ever u like if u r on pesonal visit.
But this is not your pesonal trip.you r representing Pakistan.Pakistan is a poor country.it is poor because of our leaders.Pakistani tax money is being spent on u guys lavishly.We need to see result.Otherwise we should spend same money on education here in Pakistan.
Mr.you didnot Find any restaurant nearby.can u tell the meaning of casino to your brothers and sisters over in Pakistan.
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sabir
Feb 26, 2015 02:25am
Casino is not a place for any respectable man, what kind of a man takes his wife there? Answer: not a respectable man!
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azhar
Feb 26, 2015 02:27am
After the ZIM matach. even the players will be hanging out in casinos. Just watch.... :)
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Not Surprised
Feb 26, 2015 02:31am
@Zombie_Rules who is in charge of these idiots?? Oh, the PM??
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Khushi
Feb 26, 2015 02:36am
Sorry if I am interfering, but what's the big deal? Moin Khan is not playing and being a selector having done his part, is it not acceptable for him to go to a casino or wherever? Pakistani team may be goin thru a rough phase and will kick back soon, but the way people are criticising the team or making headlines out of issues like these, it will demotivate the players significantly.
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czar
Feb 26, 2015 02:45am
@Paksitani That's completely wrong. His job as chief selector was based on his abilities to perform the job an not because whether he is muslim, listen to biyans and prays five time, or eat halal etc. If the assumption that he represents Pakistan and therefore muslims so he should eat halal food etc then Pakistan also has minorities that are free to practice their beliefs by that he should represent everyone.
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dr vimal
Feb 26, 2015 03:00am
should have tipped the waiter. Too late . Someone tipped the PCB
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czar
Feb 26, 2015 03:04am
@Asif "During the worldcup each team member and management must listen Maulana Tariq Jameel Saheb BAyan after net practice sessions. Avoid going to the Casino and Adult Entertainment places."
Are you serious? about Maulan Tariq Jameel Bayan? Not that anything wrong with that you said but what they should do with their down time that's their business. They are on cricket trip not on a Tableeghi Jamaat tour.
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Larkanavi
Feb 26, 2015 03:13am
Did Moin Khan break any rules set by the team management? If not then what is the big fuss about? Where he eats his dinner is his business. Going to a casino is not a crime in Australia. Cheer up Moin Khan, you have done nothing wrong.
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Ali
Feb 26, 2015 03:22am
Wow casino was the only place serving food in whole city that's where most Aussies go for dinner. In private tours do whatever you want , but travelling on taxpayers money while representing your country, you are expected to behave.
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Ali
Feb 26, 2015 03:24am
@Junaid G travelling at taxpayers money wasn't private affair, he is on official tour
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truef
Feb 26, 2015 03:54am
Pak, what happen? just two losses in WC? that too, they are not against weak teams. Let the actions take place thru board. No need to be over emotional.
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PakShot
Feb 26, 2015 04:11am
The thing is what's the use ......why does the chief selector travel with the team......is he a free loader wasting tax payers money with his wife....is it a PCB paid honey moon.....in principal...being a Chief selector he does not require to travel with the team. He has already done his job selecting wreckage.......
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Jazib Ghory
Feb 26, 2015 04:21am
@A Pakistani Why does it matter? Its his personal decision whatever he does.
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Jazib Ghory
Feb 26, 2015 04:22am
@A Pakistani They are NOT your concern. It is his personal freedom. Pakistan cricket team is not some representative of an islamic cricket team, its Pakistan's cricket team. Learn the difference. Leave the man be.
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Jazib Ghory
Feb 26, 2015 04:22am
@AH I am pretty sure Australian and UK selectors can visit the pub and casinos at their own whim.
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Pakistani
Feb 26, 2015 04:51am
Because that was then only place where there was halaal food!
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Aijaz Akbar Ansari
Feb 26, 2015 05:00am
@Junaid G Right on brother
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Aijaz Akbar Ansari
Feb 26, 2015 05:02am
@sheryaar "They dont serve you unless you play?) You are soooo funny.
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Aijaz Akbar Ansari
Feb 26, 2015 05:04am
@AH It was inappropriate and could be avoided. Other than that, he did nothing wrong. If it was UK or European countries, it wouldn't have matter.
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Aijaz Akbar Ansari
Feb 26, 2015 05:10am
@Atif Have to agree with you Atif.
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Melbourne
Feb 26, 2015 05:47am
Just Dinner..hahahahah then man you need to go back for the real fun...Lols
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Mushahid qayyum
Feb 26, 2015 05:52am
What a innocent excuse by MOHIN KHAN, LOLx
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khurram
Feb 26, 2015 05:59am
What a shame a person put his need before representing a country how would team perform when we have selector like Moin to worry more about dinner not to cheer up the team morale or set an example wouldn't it be great to have the dinner with the team at a better place to keep an identity and morale
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Rizwan - US
Feb 26, 2015 06:11am
@sheryaar - That is NOT true, they do not serve if you DON'T play. They actually even serve free soda, water, coffee etc...Please get your facts straight...
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Waqar
Feb 26, 2015 06:16am
@M Rabbani
Restaurants at Casinos are not places where you would take your family for dinner, unless you are comfortable with being surrounded by smokers, drinkers and female escorts. I would know, I've been to a one.
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adil jadoon
Feb 26, 2015 06:21am
@amman I will second that.
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shezad
Feb 26, 2015 06:21am
The question is not whether he ate steak which was halal or not. Thats not even an argument.
The question is, in capacity of PCB's chief selector, on PCB's financed tickets to Aus/NZ, why did he have to go to a casino? And his wife being seen with alot of chips. Surely to gamble. No?
So in capacity of holding a chief selector position with PCB, is it wise to gamble in a casino, during world cup, in Aus/NZ?
Please ponder.
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adil jadoon
Feb 26, 2015 06:22am
@Irfan what are you on a out? He has done nothing wrong. PCB is responsible nothing. Sethi should resign.
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Tariq
Feb 26, 2015 06:24am
how stupid it is to make a news out of it, we live in sydney and casinos are not like BARS ...normal people can go there to have dinner not to bet only
Please make news more evident when put out not just rumors ....news are not views they have to have substance..
And some people commenting here only food halal there, its not about that, they serve halal food which is rare not every placeeee do that in australia.... this is not pakistan
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aftab
Feb 26, 2015 07:18am
Those who think he did not commit any wrong don't know anything about Cricket. The teams that are winning keep their players locked in dark rooms in their own countries. Just before the match, they send the team in 11 supersonic drones, one for each and flown directly to the pitch. That is how you win matches, and not by having dinner at casinos. Ask Rameez why he talks like this.
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javed qamer
Feb 26, 2015 07:23am
How did his wife end up in the casino. How did she go to Australia. Who paid for her ticket. There are a host of questions and we want answers to each one of them.
As long as we are cleaning the whole stable lets get rid of Intikhab alam also . A good for nothing old fodgy dodgy.
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razzaque
Feb 26, 2015 07:42am
I'm surprised to read some comments here-- its his private matter/ its none of our business what Moin does-- blah/blah/blah- what this guy is doing there with his wife?? --definitely not a time for pleasure trip- even if Pakistan would've won both the matches.... so shameful...!!!
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razzaque
Feb 26, 2015 07:46am
@shezad exactly... even if Pakistan would have won both the games-- his act is utterly shameful....
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Mark Arvind
Feb 26, 2015 08:14am
@shami
I don't know whether you know or seen a real Casino. Go to Las Vegas man! You will know what I am talking about!
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Mark Arvind
Feb 26, 2015 08:20am
@sheryaar
Where do you get this information that Casinos don't serve you food if you don't gamble? Casinos will serve food, snacks, coffee, drinks and just about anything.all day..and you don't have to gamble or spend a single coin in the casino for gambling. Go check out Las Vegas. Every casino has grand restaurant that is mind boggling and not everyone goes there to gamble. Get a grip and open your mind and please learn about other cultures instead of making up things. Travel outside your country before you die!
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Nadeem
Feb 26, 2015 08:57am
@Melbourne... and that too at 3am and in the VIP lounge with access only to the high rollers.. :)
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QSOFTSolution
Feb 26, 2015 09:29am
reader , should read another related funny article narrated by Mr. Paracha ,
http://www.dawn.com/news/1165839/gotcha-chief-selector-caught-shaming-nation
PCB is trying to divert our attention over non-serious issues , Moin could be inquired after WC2015 but recently our performance and team spirit should be addressed first .. our team is divided in 3 groups sect : Afridi, Younus and Misbah ! solve this issue first then talk over casino..
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punit
Feb 26, 2015 09:30am
@Moshim Khan who fixed 1992 WC final !
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blunt
Feb 26, 2015 09:42am
I don't know if Zahid Nihari, Bundoo Khan and Sabir Nihari are not available in that city where he had to find a casino which may not be delivering HALAL food. So, Mr. Moin: please elaborate.
Mr. Moin: you could have had a dinner after Pakistan's defeat. By the way, what is the chief selector doing with the team. Any precedent?Your job was done with the announcement of the team with leaving out meritorious players like Fawad Alam. Now face the music and return the advance 24 months salary@1.4 million per month.
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Ray
Feb 26, 2015 10:03am
A casino of all places? Moin, Waqar, Mushtaq, all of them have a shady past associated with match-fixing. Once you have been involved in such deeds, then you have to be very careful about such things.
A casino is associated with betting, just like the Pakistan team is - what an irony that Moin chose to go there when he's representing Pakistan at the WC.
Pakistan's performance is also so poor and some of the reasons are so mind-boggling, that one cannot help but be suspisions of underhand activities. Dropping of Fawad, not playing Sarfaraz are just some of the few.
Moin should be taken to task. Period.
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saeed
Feb 26, 2015 10:08am
All he has to do is produce receipts with his credit card statement corroborating amount of money spend at casino. Its simple
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Que
Feb 26, 2015 10:41am
So what is the 'Big Deal' - Leave him alone!!!
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Muhammad Zakria
Feb 26, 2015 10:51am
Current and Past PCB officials should be tried in the military courts. They have destroyed cricket infrastructure & our players credibility. In Islam there is no forgiveness for crime/theft against society. All the money is pocketed by PCB officials, nothing is spent in infrastructure & player developments. Players are forced to under perform. Basically PCB officials work for Bookies in India and Pakistan and the team is forced to follow what the bookies want. Also all mentioned in Justice Qayyums report should be punished. All assets & accounts of the corrupt officials and players should be seized.
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fahad
Feb 26, 2015 11:00am
ITS just another Masala news. Keep it coming we didn't go to Australia to bring the cricket world cup, we are there to help our media make money with these awful disgraceful news.
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fahad
Feb 26, 2015 11:02am
ITS just another Masala news. Keep it coming we didn't go to Australia to bring the cricket world cup, we are there to help our media make money with these awful disgraceful news.
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the_other_Khan
Feb 26, 2015 11:05am
My Dear it is not just dinner. The list is lot bigger than that
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vijaykumar
Feb 26, 2015 11:49am
@ziavrep labqi
@Mr. Iqbal pervaiz-If it was free dinner, why did he not take the team along with him? He could have saved precious foreign exchange.
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Shivendra
Feb 26, 2015 12:28pm
I seriously don't understand whats wrong if he went there. Why do we have a habit of peeping in somebody else life. If your team didn't win then its the problem of 11 skippers who played the match.
He is just another human like us who have equal rights to go anywhere.
Are pakistani's living in stone age to make issues of such things?
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Khan
Feb 26, 2015 12:35pm
No issue with him going to Casino, but, I have heard two different reasons given by Moin. One is listed here in this article about eating food, the initial reason given as reported by the media was that Moin went to check if any players had left their hotel rooms for the casino. One thing is sure that there cant be two reasons. So Moin has to make up his mind what was the real reason. In addition to that, Moin is a chief selector, hence its not his job to check on players.
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Khan
Feb 26, 2015 12:38pm
@Muhammed ali Seafood is halal.
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Khan
Feb 26, 2015 12:42pm
Sadly, for Pakistanis, the 2007 World Cup is remembered only for Bob Woolmer's mysterious demise, and this 2015 one looks to be going down the way of being remembered as; Moin Khan ate food in Casino
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omar
Feb 26, 2015 02:18pm
@Jazib Ghory That's all well and true...had they won..now they lost the whole tour sounds like it was a holiday.
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Vamshi
Feb 26, 2015 02:39pm
what so big deal about that? why this earth shaking recalling him from ANZ ? they can have conf call and get the details from him if they need any clarification. Its apparent that someone is getting blamed for team's poor performance in the world cup.
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Ali
Feb 26, 2015 03:12pm
@AJ And how do you know that Moin Khan does not eat non-halal food???? Who gave you the right to make assumptions of this sort?? Where does it say in PCB non-player contracts that the chief selector must only eat halal food and must not gamble???? So what if he went to the casino and gabled and ate non halal food????? That is not a sackable offence.... yes, the failure to select a half decent Pakistan cricket team is..... Concentrate on relevant points only bro...
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Abdul Wahab
Feb 26, 2015 05:53pm
He needs to be investigated through the ICC Anti Corruption Unit . If Asif , Amir & Salman why not Moin ??
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omar
Feb 26, 2015 07:55pm
kumar sangakkara...what an absolute legend of a player..wow
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headsoffcuttersoff
Feb 27, 2015 08:38am
@AH : Why bring God into it? Can't resist?
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headsoffcuttersoff
Feb 27, 2015 08:39am
@Old Ravian: Casinos have lots of FREE food and beer!
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Malik
Feb 27, 2015 08:59am
He could only find Halal food at the Casino.... haha
The whole PCB and the Pakistani team is a joke.
They are taking advantages of the Pakistani people and their money. I wonder who payed for his wife's trip and food.
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Ck
Feb 27, 2015 11:07am
People are making a mountain out of a mole hill !! What is there if Moin visits the Casino... Had he done this while the Pakistanis were playing a match, then it is a different case. All this fuss is happening because Pakistan didn't fare well in both their games... If Pak had won their matches, nobody would have even talked about it. Poor Moin Khan... my sympathies
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Luketer Massa
Feb 27, 2015 12:03pm
I went to the strip club to buy a pack of cigarettes.....
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sajjad akbar
Feb 27, 2015 12:29pm
Management should set personal examples. They cannot blame and convict the players for match fixing if they themselves are involved in illegal activities. Moin must be questioned and punished if found guilty. Casinos don't serve halal food so what kind of dinner was he having there. One dose not go to a bar to offer a prayer anyway!
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Dilliwala
Feb 27, 2015 12:52pm
so what if he went to a casino... and so what if he even gambled there. Its his personal choice in his personal time.
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Vicky
Feb 27, 2015 01:58pm
Match Fixing !!
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Guest
Feb 27, 2015 09:36pm
@glassyman Really Pakistan government sort them out if they are involved in gambling, because it instinct something bad and must be involved in gambling. Trust me one day everyone will come to know through TV channels that they are involved in gambling.
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Arabinda Chakravarty
Feb 28, 2015 08:31pm
You already did a grave mistake by putting the whole natin in shame and again telling lies don't make it more embarrassed for you, though everything is possible in Pakistan where an army chief sounds more powerful than an elected Prime Mister. This is funny.
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spellbinder
Mar 01, 2015 02:33am
Moin Khan is not punished for his visit to the casino but the people in Pakistan blame him for picking such a bad side for the WC. One all-rounder is missing from the initial 15 selected. The replacements sent was mind boggling - the team management lost two great opportunity to get some experienced and in-form players.
Not selecting a regular wicket-keeper who is in prime form is criminal plus how do you drop a spinner against WI who are known to be weak against spin. I don't think the tour selection committee don't know the game so the defensive approach of the captain is apparant.
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