RAW involved in terrorist activities across Pakistan: foreign secretary
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ISLAMABAD: Foreign Secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry on Thursday said the Indian intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) is involved in various terrorist activities across Pakistan.
Chaudhry added that the matter had been taken up "a number of times" at the highest level with India through diplomatic channels.
He also touched upon the Karachi bus attack in an informal conversation with media representatives in Islamabad, saying that it is too early to confirm the involvement of Daesh.
Read: 43 killed in attack on bus carrying Ismailis in Karachi
Chaudhry said that Daesh's involvement in the attack cannot be established on the basis of a pamphlet purportedly left by militant group. However, he said, security agencies are investigating the attack.
A letter was left by the gunmen on Wednesday who attacked the bus carrying members of the Ismaili community.
Khorasan province, a division of the self-styled Islamic State (IS) in the Afghan-Pakistan region, claimed the deadly attack on the bus. In a message on Twitter, the group said 43 “apostates” were killed and more than 30 wounded in the attack. It did not give details of the attack.
In response to a question, the foreign secretary said that Pakistan is fighting a war on terror and this war is yet to be over.
He said Pakistan is a responsible nuclear state and has proven that it has used its nuclear technology for socio-economic and scientific development.
Earlier during the day, the spokesperson for the Foreign Office responding to a question about Pakistan's relationship with Afghanistan had said that Pakistan has told Afghanistan that Indian spy agency RAW should not be allowed to operate against Pakistan from Afghan territory.
The statement follows after a visit by Pakistani premier Nawaz Sharif to Afghanistan, where he pledged Pakistan's support in the fight against the Afghan Taliban.
Also read: Pakistan had no prior knowledge of Bin Laden, US raid: Foreign Office
Last week, the military’s top brass accused RAW of supporting terrorism in Pakistan. A previous ISPR statement on a meeting of the Corps Commanders held at the General Headquarters said: “The conference also took serious notice of RAW’s involvement in whipping up terrorism in Pakistan.”
While RAW has been blamed by Pakistani authorities in the past, it is unusual for a corps commanders’ conference to directly point fingers at the hostile intelligence outfit.
Know more: RAW instigating terrorism, says army
Despite consistently pointing out RAW’s hand behind terrorism in the country, Pakistani authorities have traditionally been uncommunicative about proofs. Indian backing of insurgency in Balochistan got a mention in a Pakistan-India joint statement issued after a meeting of their prime ministers in Sharm-el-Sheikh in 2009, but Islamabad failed to follow up that diplomatic achievement with concrete proofs.
Earlier this year, however, the government decided to take a tougher approach towards India and forcefully raise its concerns over alleged Indian involvement in acts of terrorism in the country. The change had been forced by Delhi’s continued terrorism allegations for building a narrative that India was a victim of Pakistan-sponsored terrorism.
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May 14, 2015 01:00pm
Now they will use the label of RAW for their in-competencies. For how long we shall keep our eyes shut while not facing the reality.
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May 14, 2015 01:03pm
Please publish the proofs and make a case. Without the proper evidences, no one will care.
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May 14, 2015 01:05pm
"Despite consistently pointing out RAW’s hand behind terrorism in the country, Pakistani authorities have traditionally been uncommunicative about proofs." Well thats not a normal tradition, aint it.
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May 14, 2015 01:08pm
Really, please provide credible evidence !!
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May 14, 2015 01:09pm
Govt should provide proof of Indian involvement. Modi needs to quit double games, himself condemning the attack sponsored by RAW. This can lead to deteriorating peace situation in the region.
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May 14, 2015 01:16pm
Nothing but an attempt to deflect attention from their own political and intelligence failures. Ignore the people taking responsibility for attacks, and blame India instead! How will this problem be solved if the govt. does not get to the root of the problem?
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May 14, 2015 01:16pm
plz bring evidence on table.
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May 14, 2015 01:16pm
Here we go. When you can't solve a problem just blame is on foreign hand.
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May 14, 2015 01:16pm
If you know why prevention steps not taken yet to stop RAW. In real it is total failure, blaming RAW is face saving failed attempt.
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May 14, 2015 01:17pm
Foreign Secretary you have stole my words. I use to say the same thing when I didn't find any evidence.
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May 14, 2015 01:21pm
Stop this drama, it is just the weakness of our agensies. India is mature enough to know what will happen to them if they follow our footsteps. i.e problem in neighbour will be on your land some day as we have learned from our role in Afghanistan
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May 14, 2015 01:24pm
The startling revealation by the foreign office is deplorable. Yes, RAW may be involved in destablizing Pakistan but is that a news ? We need concrete action from the Governmant and Law enforcement agencies to eradicate the menace of terrorism from Karachi and other parts of the country. Also a request is to avoid Political misadventure. Focus on elimination of crimes and criminals only.
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May 14, 2015 01:25pm
no body in the world will accept such statement. give india dosier if you have or any proofs which is reliable . baseless alligations never accepted by world community.
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May 14, 2015 01:27pm
oh if there was proof, they would have showed it to media, in this part of world trail by media was important as any other institution.
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May 14, 2015 01:27pm
With such poor creditably , The Govt. needs to provide solid proof to the nation otherwise it's just waste of time.
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May 14, 2015 01:27pm
it is sad that he could not talk on what terrorists activities everyday emanated from his soil, but he is comfortable only with blaming india in a media where there cannot be defence argument from india.
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May 14, 2015 01:28pm
".. He said Pakistan is a responsible nuclear state and has proven that it has used its nuclear technology for socio-economic and scientific development."
What is the use? you cant even guard your own territory.. Is it necessary to mention about nuclear state all the time?
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May 14, 2015 01:29pm
There is no question that RAW is involved in terrorism in Pakistan. The question, Mr. Secretary is what you are going to do about it? We don't want talk anymore. We want to see action. If India is responsible then it should be taught a lesson it should never forget.
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May 14, 2015 01:37pm
Why do Pakistan always have to say that it is a responsible nuclear state in all its dialogue.
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May 14, 2015 01:41pm
The fact that he has not blamed the attack on Daesh despite their claim shows his words are researched. He is not blaming RAW without substance .
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May 14, 2015 01:43pm
@Ind It is enough for evidence that malicious presence of Indian consulates across Pak - Afghan border.
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May 14, 2015 01:44pm
@Sal to whome it will be shown.......You?
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May 14, 2015 01:44pm
India used Afghan soil against Pakistan from years. There is no doubt in that. But is going to be end now because Pakistan has decided to eliminate all this mess now.
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May 14, 2015 01:44pm
I wonder why it took so long to speak publicly of this fact..
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May 14, 2015 01:46pm
This is beyond shame now. So easy to blame India than to admit our own incompetence. Even if its Raw, arnt our security intelligence companies supposed to defend us against internal and external threat?
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May 14, 2015 01:49pm
Where is the evidence?
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May 14, 2015 01:53pm
Posting these type of articles and report are bad for country reputation and intelligence agencies. These are talk should be carried out in secretive ways
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May 14, 2015 01:56pm
Pakistan should take strong step towards involvement of RAW in terrorist activities.
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May 14, 2015 01:59pm
Government should rise voice on every international forum
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May 14, 2015 02:02pm
Without any concert evidence this will only distract our ongoing fight against terrorist and criminal element..
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May 14, 2015 02:04pm
@Ind ...and you are?
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May 14, 2015 02:06pm
Sadly Indian and Pakistani love bashing each other agencies instead of focusing on clearing their own respective mess!!
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May 14, 2015 02:11pm
nonsense !
cover up for failure
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May 14, 2015 02:12pm
No one will listen until you present credible evidence in front of the world.
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May 14, 2015 02:13pm
@inqelab zindabad
We don't fabricate proofs like India. Why have Indian government allocated funds to disrupt Pak-China corridor related projects ?
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May 14, 2015 02:14pm
If RAW can penetrate within the Pakistan, then there is no use of line of intelligence agencies. We will be better without them. This is the job of law enforcement agencies and intelligence agencies to save us from enemies. We do not care who has done it. Protect us.
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May 14, 2015 02:14pm
@Patras to your deeper than ocean frnd and ofcourse UN where no opportunity is lost to mention kashmir
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May 14, 2015 02:15pm
I always felt why developed countries are better off even we have huge population in Asia.. reason is simple they know how to divide and rule..
Whether Pakistan, India or China, we will never come on same page :-(
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May 14, 2015 02:18pm
We better put our house in order first, than we will be in a position to pin point finger on others, PERIOD.
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May 14, 2015 02:19pm
Lol .. no proofs as usual blame some one else... how and when we will learn...
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May 14, 2015 02:19pm
So what! does it means we go to home and sleep, nobody is responsible or it's not a failure of any state agency since it's done by RAW. For God sake, stop this "topi drama" and take the action against the actual enemy to whom you know very well, if you are interested to arrest "shais murderers" in Pakistan.
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May 14, 2015 02:22pm
@Hassan Look what happened during the Bin Laden drama, it was done in secret, and the Americans back stabbed the Pakistanis, some things should be brought to the public, it seems Pak has leant not to trust backstage diplomacy.
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May 14, 2015 02:22pm
no evidence does not mean that someone is not involved in a crime.
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May 14, 2015 02:24pm
they failed in fulfilling their responsibilities and easily blaming others to hide.
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May 14, 2015 02:24pm
No need to publish any proves. We know India has been involved in actts of terrorism in Pakistan for a long time. Pakistan should confront the Indians on this issue and give the evidence to united nation.
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May 14, 2015 02:24pm
@Salman Khan - Because Pakistan is not.
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May 14, 2015 02:27pm
Every country collect intelligence reports from across the globe. But, India will never and ever do terrorist activities even in enemy country. If , you can prove that Indian people will throw that government out of power. That's the power of democracy in India.
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May 14, 2015 02:27pm
@Hassan well said, that much common sense those who are pointing out should have.
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May 14, 2015 02:28pm
Would not this only distract our ongoing flight on militancy and criminals elements..
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May 14, 2015 02:28pm
Where is the evidence foreign secretary? Why don't you accept failure of your intelligence & law enforcement agencies?
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May 14, 2015 02:28pm
@MA ohhh
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May 14, 2015 02:29pm
i think India already knows they are involved. better to publish this proof in International media, in UN and given to US too.
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May 14, 2015 02:29pm
As India showed proper evidence on 26/11 attacks that pak has involved. Can we show similarly. I see its a covering strategy of failed management.
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May 14, 2015 02:29pm
@Patras Due just publish it in dawn that will suffice
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May 14, 2015 02:29pm
@yaser How about a letter to UN
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May 14, 2015 02:31pm
What's the big deal if he said it. After all , Indians blame everything on ISI , don't they now ?
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May 14, 2015 02:31pm
@Arjun and will you apply the same logic on india? So as per your logic india has been covering up for it's failures all along, be it delhi or Mumbai, right?
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May 14, 2015 02:32pm
This is not a political party leader and what Foreign Office stated is mean that they have a proof. People should learn that Foreign Office is a responsible office and when they stated that it will always consider very reliable (This is universal for every Foreign Office).
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May 14, 2015 02:32pm
boss, it is your total failure, your govt failure, you people are not caring for general public and AAM Admi - you are in power only because of these people. Start caring your own people first.
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May 14, 2015 02:33pm
Again same drama!!
Always blaming others for your misfortunes leaves you blinded to the fact that you, yourself, might be the problem.
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May 14, 2015 02:36pm
Pakistan had no prior knowledge of Bin Laden, US raid: Foreign Office -----------But you have evidence that RAW is involved.......what a Joke man.
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May 14, 2015 02:39pm
This has to be taken in context with Karachi carnage. An eye opener to the citizens of Pakistan and to clear their minds, as to what extent the enemy nations can go to, that they will not even spare innocent civilians to achieve their nefarious designs.
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May 14, 2015 02:45pm
It can be seen Pakistan harks about its nuclear capability. Will that be sufficient for Pakistans growth and prosperity. Has it benefited.
A nuclear war in todays world is out of question and can never happen. Unless it falls in wrong hands or some fanatic thinks of taking such a drastic step.
Think about peace and the countries economic growth.
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May 14, 2015 02:48pm
High time our isi comes back in full swing.
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May 14, 2015 02:55pm
They are more careful and could not indulge in these matters directly. However all finances, planning and targets are fixed and pointed out. The execution / murders are done by locals working for them. They include all operators from the exploited local people.
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May 14, 2015 04:03pm
A common Pakistani know it from the time terrorism was started.....And u just came to know,,,,
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May 14, 2015 04:09pm
Indian involvement is quite obvious on this page too and this proves that there is no need of any other proof.
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May 14, 2015 04:35pm
@Sal , Pakistan knows the game very well they are playing for Mumbai Attack on 26/11/2008. They have already made rules of engagement, let it be so.
"Please publish the proofs and make a case. Without the proper evidences, no one will care."
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May 14, 2015 04:47pm
Without credible evidence the blame game is not going to help. This could potentially divert the attention from religious extremists and home grown terror networks. It could be the case that local terrorists are getting support from foreign agencies, but even then it's a local problem, and require a local focus.
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May 14, 2015 04:47pm
@Ind As Mr. Aizaz has said that Pakistan had taken up the case with India on several occasion ... so why should you believe that they still need to put evidence in front of the public? -
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May 14, 2015 04:51pm
Zero tolerance policy may please be lunched against the agents of enemy. This is intelligence war era and major part of war can be won by successful intelligence.
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May 14, 2015 04:54pm
Please don't repeat Indian involvement in destabilizing Pakistan without concrete evidence. If it was true we would not begging for normalizing of relations and resumption of cricket matches. We must put our house in order before pointing out others. Is India responsible for ruining infrastructure of Karachi. Is India stopping repairs to roads and flow of water in mains. Is India sponsoring land and tanker mafia and creating traffic mess in Karachi.
These are also great impediments in foreign and local investment in Karachi
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May 14, 2015 05:16pm
Educated experienced honest staff has insight to see and feel the danger before it reach at door. You are great, brave and capable person for this bold post. PAKISTAN ZINDABAD.
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May 14, 2015 05:25pm
Involvement of RAW is very much true. They want to split Pakistan and against the PAK china corridor.
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May 14, 2015 05:32pm
It is very easy to blame India. The Govt of Pakistan trying to hide its intelligence failure.In broad day light 43 people massacred of minorities group and nobody has been arrested so far.By the way targeting minority communities in Pakistan is not a new thing.In the past we have seen number of such incident taken place in all the provinces.
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May 14, 2015 05:34pm
Dear Pakistani Politicians, How long will you cheat your public by saying the same old stories?. You have a problem at home. First accept it... get a public mandate to deal with terrorists. and DO ACT ON THEM. DON'T SLEEP WITH THEM.
Your innocent people are paying prize for your political& historic mistakes. Don't blame others, accept the fact and work on it.
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May 14, 2015 05:34pm
Most incompetent people are ruling and administering Pakistan. Pathetic, and blaming others to cover our own inabilities. IS group already claimed they were responsible for recent Karachi incident. Why these politicians try to cover and blame others?
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May 14, 2015 05:35pm
The same article cites a "tweet" as an evidence for ISIS involvement asks for a solid evidence to its Foreign Office and Corps. Commander over their statement against Indian RAW. Irony!
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May 14, 2015 05:50pm
Problem is not outside, it is inside. But it can be detected and corrected only when there is a willingness for it. But it is difficult for brainwashed people not willing to see beyond, WHO TO BLAME.
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May 14, 2015 05:53pm
It is too early to say Daesh involvement, but not late to say RAWs involvement ?.
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May 14, 2015 05:53pm
I learned in my foreign policy class that India will always use Afghanistan : pincer movement, so very much true RAW is involved in activities. Evidences are for security departments so, we should understand our enemy.
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May 14, 2015 06:01pm
The best way to hide their sins is by blaming India. Pak government is trying to hide their incompetency over handing terrorist inside their land.
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May 14, 2015 06:06pm
i am amazed at commentators asking for proof.just see how many have confessed getting training in India.if ajmal kasab's statement is a proof then why not staments of ajmal pahari and many others should be taken as proof
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May 14, 2015 06:10pm
It is too early to confirm the involvement of Daesh, But it is never too late to name and blame RAW.
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May 14, 2015 06:11pm
I am sure Indian agencies are involved but I wish this same logic was applied when pakistan pushed killers onto my homeland kashmir and created the cancer of violence there
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May 14, 2015 06:18pm
I strongly believe that the problem is within the system, not from the outside. It's high time for the Pakistani lawmakers to re assess their attitude towards peace and harmony in the region....which will do wonders for the common people and the nation.
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May 14, 2015 06:25pm
@Naswar Khan Its a tweet from a ISIS account and not a RAW account. The ISIS account accepts the responsibility for the attack. There is no doubting that. I dont see the irony here
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May 14, 2015 06:28pm
Evidence has been provided many times. Its RAW. No two opinions.
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May 14, 2015 06:36pm
I was waiting for this excuse from some one in the Pakistani government; when will India and Pakistan realize that they have serious internal conflicts that any and all outsiders can exploit?
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May 14, 2015 06:42pm
PM and COAS demanded that Afghanistan land should not be used by RAW, each visit is for the same request / reason, but what is response given by president Ghani to MY PM and COAS. Previously there is no +ve response and co-operation. I think we are wasting our efforts.
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May 14, 2015 06:47pm
Are we saying that our esteemed intelligence services are so benign and inept that they simply cannot find the culprits within our country who are being used by the outsiders? It has to be biggest joke.
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May 14, 2015 07:02pm
Both Pakistani and Indian governments need to grow up and take the blame for their incompetence. They both have a default reason to blame each other.
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May 14, 2015 07:03pm
i suspect many of those who have commented here ,are Indians, using muslim names.Dear country men do not get carried away by these views.After all RAW is not a charity organization.it is doing what such agencies do.we just need to deal with their puppets here
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May 14, 2015 07:09pm
I'm a Pakistani we all know what is going on but without concrete evidence, it makes it a lie. And till I see any evidence, I will go with the belief that it is a lie.
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May 14, 2015 07:17pm
@Patras : That's a start. Then show it to every Indian commenting on DAWN blogs. Then show it to the Indian government. Then show it..................
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May 14, 2015 07:17pm
Where is the proof?
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May 14, 2015 07:35pm
A new narrative is being kicked in where RAW is once again the villain. The exact opposite of what we should have learnt i.e. we are responsible for all the things happening in our country.
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May 14, 2015 07:37pm
@Taimoor Khan what about people publicly owning responsibility.
Don't blame India . we have lot to do on growth front. Than these stupid and coward attacks
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May 14, 2015 07:50pm
Very true !
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May 14, 2015 07:56pm
if it is too early to blame Daesh then why its not too early to blame RAW without any proof?
why it is not shared with UN and shown to Indians in front of the media like Indians did re Mumbai terrorism
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May 14, 2015 08:11pm
We'll never learn. Just another way to divert attention from the issue and blame India for everything that is wrong here.
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May 14, 2015 08:14pm
Even when IS openly claims responsibility for the killings, the foreign secretary is clueless about bringing the culprits to book. Instead he spends most of the time in a meaningless rant against RAW and Afghanistan. Such people pose the greatest danger to the people of Pakistan by their ineptitude.
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May 14, 2015 08:21pm
Lets assume you are correct, how did your administration allow it? Isn't it your own failure to protect your own people. Its not an isolated incident, it has happened again and again and again, yet you do nothing but to blame a foreign hand. Despicable stance of this government and all the governments before this one. Is there no one in Pakistani leadership who can take over and fix it? Oh wait, there was one guy, who you (the corrupt government) framed in a treason case Pervez Musharraf.
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May 14, 2015 08:34pm
That is very loose and dangerous talk from a foreign secretary. It sounds rather more like a political move. Is Islamabad more worried about India than Lahore?
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May 14, 2015 08:36pm
I saw photos of spent bullets with Indian marking. Those terrorists were speaking Urdu laced with Hindi. How much more proof India wants before admitting involvement. Pakistan should take matter to United Nation.
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May 14, 2015 08:36pm
Why don't they raise this issue at the U.N. and other similar global forums?
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May 14, 2015 08:37pm
@Indianpatt
He only has incredible evidence at hand.
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May 14, 2015 08:52pm
Can any body tell me ,is any one arrested so far for the yesterday attack ?
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May 14, 2015 08:52pm
@Patras : who is stopping the secretary to stop RAW !
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May 14, 2015 08:56pm
@Aslam Shaikh As a matter of fact you already tried to do it REMEMBER John Kerry in Pakistan.Just do it and see how the entire world makes fun of you.
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May 14, 2015 08:58pm
I have been hearing about RAW being behind attacks in Pakistan all my life, never have I seen any evidence. Our agencies are incompetent and useless.
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May 14, 2015 08:59pm
Not an iota of evidence... Just a means to deflect blame for their own incompetence & self created problems.
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May 14, 2015 08:59pm
@Patras
There are always agents in consulates. Pakistan has them as well.
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May 14, 2015 09:00pm
@zafar iqbal Yes but at least your Government can tell the media which attacks had been done by India (if not all).
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May 14, 2015 09:09pm
Pakistan government have provided proof of RAW involvement in terrorist activities across Pakistan to UN and Indian high commissioner in Islamabad. I guess it's time to take revenge by making Pakistan security agencies more competent and shifting this war in enemy grounds.
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May 14, 2015 09:14pm
Leaders of all concern departments, come out of your air-conditioned rooms and face the miscreants. Stop using this non-sense which the nation have been listening for decades.
Solve the law and order issues ones for all, else resign from your lucrative jobs and go home.
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May 14, 2015 09:16pm
what an absurd!for every trouble in pakistan india,israel&america are being blamed?
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May 14, 2015 09:26pm
Provide proof or resign Mr. Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry. Don't make fool of yourselves.
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May 14, 2015 09:26pm
@Dr. Abdul Rehman very sensible comments, I rather like both countries intelligence director to work together and find common enemies and bring them to justice. No one will gain in the mutual fight , only civilians will die
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May 14, 2015 09:38pm
@Divesh Sure we will as long as RAW keep its presence in Pakistan. Well what goes around comes around.
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May 14, 2015 09:39pm
@nikunj
Why is a huge population a good thing?
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May 14, 2015 09:42pm
@Salman Khan lol...I was thinking the same.
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May 14, 2015 09:45pm
It shows double standard, Daesh or IS left pamphlets and also claimed attack on twitter, still foreign secretary says Daesh may not be involved in the Karachi bus attack. But he is quick to blame RAW for terrorism without giving any evidence. Please concentrate on solving your internally created problems instead of blaming foreign hand for all your problems and try to cover up state failures.
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May 14, 2015 09:45pm
Terrorism or Terrorist activities is not a cheap service operations. Agencies have in-sourced these activities using local resources. Service transition is rolled out with proper resource management, budgeting, funds transfer, management of fund dispensation according to requirements, not only to deliver but to sustain and improve service delivery on continual basis. It is obvious, the it requires billions of dollars to manage terrorism, because many parties at various levels, and various function have to be effectively carried out. There is no doubt, it Terrorism Service Operations is managed by agencies, who are backed by strategic vision, the put together the design based on the strategy, and roll it out in pieces to continue service delivery.
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May 14, 2015 09:47pm
@zafar iqbal
Thank you America for creating and financing the United Nations.
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May 14, 2015 09:50pm
Baseless statements like this keeps India and Pakistan apart. Pakistan cricket board is trying its best to restart India Pak cricket; and I am sure comments like these are not appreciated by Indian gov. good luck in getting anything started with India.
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May 14, 2015 09:57pm
To all the Indians looking for evidence.
The evidence is clearly there in Ajit Doval's (Former head of IB) speech. Listen to it. It's on Youtube. He says that TTP are just mercenaries and that India should pay them more than anyone else to do their dirty work in Pakistan as part of offensive-defence against Pakistan. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out what TTP does. RAW supports terrorism in Pakistan. It's a known fact. Sooner or later hard evidence will back this up as well.
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May 14, 2015 09:59pm
i think FO secretary's KRA should be clearly defined and he shouldn't comment until investigation is complete other no difference between him and his predecessors
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May 14, 2015 10:00pm
What is our counter intelligence and ISI doing about it?
We don't care who did it anymore, we care about what are you doing to prevent future attacks?
Do you even have a plan?
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May 14, 2015 10:02pm
pakistan needs to address the security with a more robust mechanism and offensive approach..........such as prohibiting all sorts of weapons completely in the country..........or gathering finger prints impressions for all licensed ammunition.........similar to sim card verification.............deploy automated body/vehicle scanners on major interstate routes.............strict monitoring of chemical, fertilizer and pharmaceutical factories of their inventories............more cctv cameras.............establish more intelligence agencies at the provincial/district level that works independently and not recruited off a politicized police force............strict cyber laws and communication surveillance............protect borders by building walls if possible...........similar to israel.........etc etc etc.
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May 14, 2015 10:07pm
It is RAW. What evidence does India provide against Pakistan?
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May 14, 2015 10:14pm
The manufactured myth of IS or ISIL in Pakistan is laughable. This is a US policy to prolong its stay in the region beyond 2017 for its own geopolitical interests. This "intelligence project" that is ISIL is been used as a security threat in the middle east and now Afghanistan and even Pakistan is a complete double game - which India is a willing partner in. USA needs an excuse to extends it stay in these volatile regions and how better to do it than create your own "america backed" militants to give Islam and Muslims a bad name. They fund these idiotic extremists by providing weapons and money to create havoc everywhere they go and then equally in same breath condemn their actions through the media.
Pakistan should wise up quickly if it thinks its multi billion dollar projects with China will be completed smoothly without foreign forces with their competing interests, namely the USA and India, will use terrorist activities to stop these projects as much as possible.
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May 14, 2015 10:16pm
It is easier to dump your failures on RAW , Mosad and to other unseen elements. It is the easy way out to shrug of your responsibilities.
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May 14, 2015 10:18pm
More self denial.
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May 14, 2015 10:27pm
I remember after attack on Srilankan cricketers one Pakistani politician perhaps a minister in Punjab immediately a told media that the terrorists came from India.
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May 14, 2015 10:37pm
Despite consistently pointing out RAW’s hand behind terrorism in the country, Pakistani authorities have traditionally been uncommunicative about proofs.
The buck stops there
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May 14, 2015 10:43pm
indian govt. wants a stable pakisthan economicaly sound ! RAW interference etc. are old stories now being coined to hide your own security failure. when pak. terrorists are killed in indian territory thier identity were shown as evidence instantaniously in the media? why not pak. give concrete evidence? india is having better things to do than, indulging in such cowardly acts!? in a failing nation!?
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May 14, 2015 10:49pm
Either you don't have any evidence or you don't have any credible evidence that RAW is engaged in terrorism. Either way it appears that Pakistan is covering up its own incompetency and inefficiency by blaming RAW. As the saying goes "put up or shut up".
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May 14, 2015 10:50pm
@Reality - How can you "put your house in order" if someone keeps interfering in your house...duh! At least make sense when you are pretending to be someone else!!!
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May 14, 2015 10:54pm
@Sal What is the solution to all of this. The bottom line is Indians hate Pakistani's and vice versa. Till we both don't end this hate amongst ourselves, this will never end.
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May 14, 2015 10:55pm
Absurdity of the Pakistani establishment: Never blame the terrorist group which takes responsibility of a terror attack. Instead blame "the unseen & imaginary external hand" for that attack!
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May 14, 2015 10:58pm
It is sad to see innocent people suffering for "political strategy" of India and Pakistan. Why people don't realize that asking for 'credible' proofs is not one way traffic...
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May 14, 2015 11:08pm
@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad : "Why don't they raise this issue at the U.N. and other similar global forums?"
Because they need at least some proof & of course they have none!
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May 14, 2015 11:13pm
Comments from "neighbours" at the top of the article is a soft evidence towards the allegations.
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May 14, 2015 11:14pm
@Faisal You will hear it in the future too, you can be sure about that. Its the best "get out of jail card" for the incompetent govt and security agencies.
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May 14, 2015 11:36pm
He says that one pamphlet proves nothing but he is accusing India without any proof. Looks like he is more keen in defending Daesh.
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May 14, 2015 11:42pm
@Harmony-1 "How can you "put your house in order" if someone keeps interfering in your house...duh!"
External forces can not interfere in your house until there's internal weakness & problems. In the 1980s, India had internal issues in Punjab & Kashmir and Pakistan took advantage of them to fuel separatist movements & insurgencies. Similarly India took advantage of Pakistan's weakness in east Pakistan. If Pakistan strengthens itself internally & resolves issues in Baluchistan etc, there won't be much room for interference by India or anyone else.
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May 14, 2015 11:53pm
@Harmony-1 ....and the beauty is you don't know who is interfering? Strange house you have.
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May 15, 2015 12:01am
Well both side are equaly responesible
and always blaming each other.
Accually both want to deviate people focus that its thier own security agencies failure.
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May 15, 2015 12:21am
Very immature and childish of such senior officials in passing these kind of sweeping statements. Pakistan's fight against terrorism will be ridiculed by the global community despite serious efforts being put in, in case such baseless statements come out from such dignified leaders. Poor diplomacy.
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May 15, 2015 12:26am
@Awais Ali How????
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May 15, 2015 12:42am
So the RAW is omnipotent to penetrate all Pakistan's defenses and intelligence/army apparatus and have its way w Pakistan at a place and time of its choosing?
As an Indian, I would like to believe it that way, but practically it seems a stretch (and also, a little insulting to the capabilities of Pakistan's professional armed forces and intelligence agencies.. not to say to the population that harbors such anti-national elements)
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May 15, 2015 12:46am
Everyone knows that RAW, TTP, and others are involved. Now is the time to act against them instead of giving statements everyday.
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May 15, 2015 12:50am
@Black Sabbath - "External forces can not interfere in your house if...". Very easy to say than implement. As it happens even close relatives interfere in your house. It's just like with such ease you can comment here. Unless states act responsibly, this will continue!
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May 15, 2015 12:51am
Pakistani govt and military trying to fool their own people by accusing India knowing that many Pakistanis will buy this argument given the hatred towards India.
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May 15, 2015 01:20am
Pity for Pakistan people...Govt which is unable protect its own people trying to put its incompetents to somebody's head.Only fool can only believe this statement....
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May 15, 2015 01:25am
@lafanga that is no evidence at all. If he is saying pay TTP, than catch TTP which is in Pakistan, and expose RAW. It is so easy Man!
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May 15, 2015 01:36am
When people like Mumtaz Qadiri are showered with rose petals by 'lawyers' at a courthouse, you don't need R&AW to destabilize you. Your own people will do that job very well, and they are doing it pretty well.
This is a win-win strategy for Pakistani government. The Pakistani citizens will buy this argument in no time and the government can say they don't have to do anything.
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May 15, 2015 01:52am
Pakistani politicians are becoming as incompetent as their Indian counterparts who blame Pakistan for everything. IN this case IS has claimed responsibility so let us not look like fools by blaming the wrong party.
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May 15, 2015 02:12am
@lafanga ...if RAW is capable, they would have killed Dawson long time ago instead of asking Pak to handover him. Our govt is lying yo us and none of us want to question them, instead we take their lies and run with it. Bravo. We deserve this.
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May 15, 2015 02:19am
Our Foreign Office should sense the wind direction before charging on India. These days India is the darling of the west. Even if our FO has proof of RAW involvement, the West a.k.a. "the World" will choose to look the other way. On contrary if India simply blames us for any instability within its borders, the whole world will take the Indian side. This is a fact as the world is interest driven. India has earned this leverage. So what should be our policy? Will our statements stop RAW? Will our noises draw any attention from the world? The answer is "no". We will have to fight this alone. Our tactics to fight terror have been neutralized by the enemy. Even if we change these, the enemy will try to come up with a way to neutralized our strategy again. This will be a long war and unless we deploy smart people on key positions we will not win. Merit has to take front seat in all walk of like.
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May 15, 2015 02:26am
i am so surprise hindustani means indians read all pakistani newspaper.thanks
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May 15, 2015 02:49am
Dear Foreign Minister, do you even know what is the next logical step you have to take based on your allegations? Yes, you need to prove your statements by concrete 'evidence'. Since decades we all have been hearing about these Raw stories. But like every other time you have failed to provide any solid evidence to public or media or UN or US. So stop living in the state of denial, and provide the proofs if you really care about your credibility.
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May 15, 2015 03:14am
@Taimoor Khan .. he said and you believed? Don't be so naive.
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May 15, 2015 03:24am
@MA These are called conspiracy theories.
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May 15, 2015 04:01am
I do not understand why Dawn being such a respected Newspaper withhold comments from general public especially from Indians who regularly read it. I sincerely hope from Dawn that as long as comments do not contain profanity or abusive langauge they should go live right away so that we can have fair exchange of ideas along with our Pakistani brothers and sisters.
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May 15, 2015 04:10am
No, no you cannot pass the buck for our failed government to others so easily. Our state does not protect its citizens, instead it chooses to finger point and we remain blind and foolishly hate others.
Please stop and accept responsibility for your own failing.
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May 15, 2015 04:23am
Daesh, they are in your door step. Act sensibly and avoid similar incidents in future. That best way you can pay tribute to those dead in this heinous crime. Hope one day these politicians accept the reality and act to protect own citizens.
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May 15, 2015 05:29am
@Aslam Shaikh .....You forgot China....
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May 15, 2015 06:13am
the preoblem of terrirism in country will not solve even for long term due to double standard on international forum.govt. is no more interesting in taking action on mumbai attacker and treating them heroes, and secret assets which to be used against india for bleeding. we expect from the people to raise voice on this matter. we feel sad while innocent soldiers, rangers security personnels and even scholl children and minorities and common man killed from both sides. we are happy atleast now people have started realising that they are misguided by govt. we love people of pakistan but not the rulers, administrators and extremist who just interesting in spreading poison. we thanks PTV and writers of comment in dawn.
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May 15, 2015 06:28am
Accusations like this without evidence, no matter in which context they are made whether by a country or a corporation or a sports team, are nothing more than helpless statements of a weak and lost leadership.
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May 15, 2015 06:40am
@SpringIshere Thats what you do.
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May 15, 2015 06:42am
Pakistan is trying to cash on every tragedy to convince people, that we are not responsible to stop it, India is responsible for creating it!
Tell me what is the benefit for India, if few Pakistani's die ?
Every year in India 1000's die from road accidents in Indian and Pakistan. Violante never won humanity. Today we are are alive and kicking even after the world seen many different wars in 1000's of years, it is because of our humanity.
One good example is, how India and Pakistan worked together to bring back our innocent citizens from Yemen.
Just pointing finger not enough. India needs proof. Even Indian wanted peace around us, to have a over all prosperity in the region.
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May 15, 2015 09:14am
Instead of saying they are involved, stop their operations.
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May 15, 2015 09:51am
@Ahsan u truly address the alarming situation. But, peace could prevail if people understand the diplomatic blunder by pakistan allowing militia to resolve their problem or gain some tactical advantage against their neighbours as u did.
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May 15, 2015 10:32am
Friends, Pakistan is a great nation. Spend time in engaging your neighbours in constructive activities - eradication of polio, building rail systems etc;
Please ask the stakeholders to come out of Kashmir-first and religion-first mind-set. Entering Mars must be the aim - not entering Mumbai or Delhi.
Pakistan is the land of my ancestors and am proud of that. Would like to see that flourishing with full of health, education and economic progress.
Sincere Best Wishes
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May 15, 2015 10:51am
@Aziz Friend, Please do beleive India once, ask your government to arrest the People who are responsible. You might see the changes
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May 15, 2015 11:50am
@Aslam Shaikh There is no proof!!
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May 15, 2015 01:00pm
I am not surprised by the foreign secretary statement. All governments are same. They try to pass the buck to coverup their incompetency. Sometimes on regional governments, sometimes on neighbouring countries. What surprised me was the poll results. Half the people believe this. The remaining half, I am sure some Indians also could have participated in the poll, who would have clicked for 'no foreign hand'. This would make, more than half the people are still denying the rot in the society. Cure is not possible with this mindset.
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