India hands over body of Pakistani 'who crossed border by mistake'
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LAHORE: Indian authorities on Friday handed over to Pakistan Rangers the mutilated body of a Pakistani man who was allegedly tortured after he crossed the Indo-Pak border "by mistake" six years ago, his brother said.
Waheed Noor allegedly crossed the border from Azad Kashmir's Rawalakot area unknowingly and was captured by Indian forces for violating border laws.
According to the slain man's brother Zahid Noor, who received his brother's body at Wagah from Indian authorities, Waheed's body bore marks of extreme torture. His feet had been chained and his eyeballs pulled out, said Zahid, describing his brother's body.
Zahid said Waheed had been incarcerated in an Indian jail for the past four years.
Waheed, 38, had filed a petition in an Indian court against his imprisonment and was exonerated twice, according to his brother. However, as the time of his release neared, Indian security agencies tortured him to a point that he died in the jail in Srinagar, his brother claims.
Waheed's body was allegedly handed in a violated state to his family members through Rangers after necessary paperwork.
His family said he had served his due time in jail two years ago but was not allowed to return to Pakistan. They maintained that Waheed was not guilty of any wrongdoing.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:09pm
Well done INDIA for showing your humanity!!!
No Indians will be posting on this story now.
Torturing Innocent people after your court has acquitted them. If this was the other way around it would be war.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:11pm
A country that claims to be an emerging super power does not even respect decisions of its own court of law. It can become a powerful nation with 1.1 billion people only in its movies and songs. In reality, the country's value system is hollow.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:13pm
India shining...
Let's see if Asma Jahangir says anything about this. Or any Indian, for that matter.
Absolutely shameful. The body arrived without eye sockets. This is beyond belief.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:15pm
I suggest rather than Indians its we who should report the matter to UN and seek permission to make surgical strikes on their terrorist camps inside Indian border ... eye for an eye....
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Jun 27, 2015 04:15pm
Very sad and shameful , humanity is killed, both indian and pakistani governments are responsible for not taking interest and initiative for innocent poor people kept in jail for no reason. This cross border hatered must be stopped at any cost .
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Jun 27, 2015 04:16pm
Very sad a neighbour doing this and behaving like a bully!
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Jun 27, 2015 04:16pm
sad to see this.. where are the self righteous indians now ?
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Jun 27, 2015 04:23pm
where are NGO's or UN or International Media or EU ............................ why they are not taking about this because its MOODI who did it..............
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Jun 27, 2015 04:24pm
I wonder if this happened because of death of Sarabjit Singh in Pakistani jail.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:26pm
Totally Inhumane and brutal act against an innocent civilian who crossed the border by mistake.
I don't see any comment of Indians here, condemning this severe brutality done by their security agencies. I always find them complaining about others without looking at their own actions.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:31pm
No civilized nation will torture a civilian after he was exonerated by the country's court. The torture marks on the body are gruesome and tells a lot about the savage and subhuman people who tortured him.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:31pm
The Indian government must order a judicial inquiry into this horror and punish the perpetrators if this is found to be true. If nothing is done, then one cannot blame people for thinking it is true.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:33pm
i doubt if the claims made by the dead man's brother are true
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Jun 27, 2015 04:34pm
Whenever we get the chance to show maturity our country fails. Apology to the family of victim from an ordinary Indian it's they who suffer not politicians or army.
If he would have done any anti-Indian activity, we could have imprisoned him for lifetime but not this way we should treat anyone.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:38pm
If this news is true than I am ashamed and angry as an Indian. Court's judgement is one thing which must be followed at all time and I am sure that Indian court is going take note of this and action will be taken. But humanity should not be mutilated like this. A soldier deserves a respectful death weather he is Indian or Pakistani.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:38pm
Indian side also making the same remarks when bodies received from Pakistan side. So do not involve in the blame game. The death of innocent people can be avoided only by serious diolouge, confidence building measures, people to people contact etc. by both countries.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:39pm
Shame on India if this is true. There must be a judicial enquiry asap and whoever is responsible must be punished.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:40pm
Barbaric act!
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Jun 27, 2015 04:41pm
A lot of Indians here try to market their "Honest" judicial system and "Unbiased" policies. But their own people back home keep bringing shame to them frequently. Now I will request the Indians to first help their government improve and then jump on international forum to avoid self humiliation.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:41pm
If it's done on purpose than really sad we all need to respect life
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Jun 27, 2015 04:43pm
This also shows how our border security is lax , if anybody can cross the border undetected then anybody too can come in , so what does that it say about our security , we are open to attack anytime.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:43pm
Very sad... these incidents erode the process of establishing faith among people across borders.
May be they have done to retaliate 2013 incident, where one soldier is beheaded and other is mutilated. In either case these should not have happened to anyone on this earth.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:46pm
This is so sad. Nationalistic jingoism has taken out basic decency and humanity from our hearts. Although in this incident the Indians are the torturers. However, before we point fingers at them let us look into our own selves. People are being abducted and killed in Baluchistan and many people are abducted and tortured in Karachi today. The grave diggers in Karachi are today demanding Rs. 50,000 to prepare a grave in the graveyard. No money no grave. Both Indians and Pakistanis need to ponder where is this senseless activity taking us both towards.
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Jun 27, 2015 04:51pm
As he has died unnatural death in an Indian prison I am sure a postmodern must have been carried out.
Please ask for it, carry out another in Pakistan and the truth will come out. Ican't believe that He could have beent touched to the extended printed.
Very Sad
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Jun 27, 2015 04:55pm
@Zahid I am an Indian and I would feel ashamed if this report is really true. I would like Indian authorities to explain the situation. If the courts had released him, he should have been set free honorably. Though, not an ideal country, India does have a semblance of respect for democracy and human dignity. Violations do occur, however.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:00pm
RIP. Useless Border!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jun 27, 2015 05:02pm
This is so sad. Where are the NGOs and humans rights activist?
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Jun 27, 2015 05:03pm
Where is Asma Jehangir, Justice Project Pakistan and the rest of the human rights likes, NGOs etc, with all their protests, sit-ins and verbel filth and garbage which they spew?
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Jun 27, 2015 05:06pm
Our PM should send another sari to Modi's mom & release another convicted indian spy as gratitude.
Feeling rage & shame :((
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Jun 27, 2015 05:12pm
indians are not our friends, they will neva be your friends, do not trust them
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Jun 27, 2015 05:14pm
For Humanity sake, this should be thoroughly probed and the culprits meet the punishment they deserve without any bias, if true. And the details of probe be transparent and reported to both countries and the world to ensure justice is served with full openness.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:19pm
This is far beyond barbaric gruesome murder, looks like Indians have lost their sanity, just unbelievable.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:19pm
Sad & shameful if it is true. Let's be human first. Feeling sad for victim family.
There were few cases in past also when indian soldiers were tortured to death & their mutilated body was handed over to the family by pakistani authority.
But that doesn't means this incident can be justified by any means. One wrong can't justify another.
I request both india & pakistan authorities to respect human life. Pls do not kill someone for your own hatred or revenge.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:34pm
I am an Indian ...and I don't believed Indian forces will do that to an innocent person . There are no photographs to prove it.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:41pm
As an India I am extremely sorry for this. The situation between Indian and Pakistan such that both countries see each other so much suspiciously. Indian has done this and Pakistan has also done the same to each other citizens which they think as spies. During kargil war remember katra ,the captured Indian soldier and tortured to death. Both countries has to understand that human life has values, even if he is spy or soldier or citizen. I am extremely sorry for the barbaric treatment he got from Indian side , if the story is true. God give us some brain and humanity.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:45pm
Pakistan should take this matter to UN.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:47pm
It is a very sad incident. Shame on Indian Government for their continues atrocities against poor Kashmiris.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:54pm
Where is Pakistan govt now? Why not got Pakistan govt. got involved in the matter earlier. What Pakistan govt. can do now? Indian govt. has no standard when it comes to the human right violations.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:54pm
Indian forces cant do this to a innocent man.there must be other story.probe must be done.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:57pm
Wholehearted apologies to the family of the victim, rivalry, border tussles, diplomatic game plans, complaining to the international community etc. etc. are all part and parcel of cold wars two unfriendly neighbors ought to go through, but the poor and (at least) the innocent citizen shall not be victimized by the authorities. Very sad to read.
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Jun 27, 2015 05:59pm
If this is true.... the international human rights commission has to step in and interrogate this death......
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Jun 27, 2015 06:02pm
Not sure, how true the story is but, in any case, please don't cross into our country illegally , even by mistake. We won't warn you again.
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Jun 27, 2015 06:07pm
Not acceptable at all. But there's a catch to this. Why would India return the body in mutilated condition when they know that this can harm their reputation globally. Is this something in contention to Capt Suarabh Kalias case.
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Jun 27, 2015 06:09pm
Very shameful and heinous act on the part of indian forces. Be human.
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Jun 27, 2015 06:14pm
Pakistan always step ahead by doing favour to india like returned indian helicopter safe and soun last year. but india always try to curb Pakistan. We know india can not be our friend.
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Jun 27, 2015 06:20pm
@Arun bravo!!!! We will pull your eyes out if you cross our border by mistake. Says it all about the sick mentality of our neighbours.
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Jun 27, 2015 06:28pm
How heartwrenching! wish the authorities do not penalise ordinary innocent citizens of both sides & keep their political enmity to themselves!
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Jun 27, 2015 06:33pm
While I'm deeply saddened by the sheer brutality shown by the Indians? I'm happy all Indians commenting here have shown maturity to express grief. What a shame v still haven't learnt to live peacefully while the adversaries of world war do not even have visa requirements to visit each other's countries.
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Jun 27, 2015 06:34pm
This story about torture sounds fishy. If india had tortured him so much, they won't have returned the body itself. Instead they would have claimed that he was still in jail somewhere.
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Jun 27, 2015 06:40pm
You can not blame security agencies alone for these sort if incidents. Clashes in Jails plays a part. However, this should be investigated and the guilty must be punished. You just can't justify such cruel acts because it is against the very concept of humanity.
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Jun 27, 2015 06:52pm
It is Modi's India not Ghandi's
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Jun 27, 2015 06:53pm
It is certainly sad to see this- Indians should not try to justify this through denial and asking not to cross borders etc - It shows ignorance as a number of Indian fisherman cross borders but do not deserve torture or accusation of being agents etc. Similarly Pakistan too should look at its own deeds and avoid any similar mishap. Setting a good example will helps other to reciprocate.
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Jun 27, 2015 07:01pm
Killing my countryman in such a brutal way and then claiming to be the largest democracy in the world where the person who was acquitted by the court was still punished for a mistake. True colours of shining india are coming out. Really Sad. :-(
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Jun 27, 2015 07:08pm
This is the face of the biggest "democracy" in the Universe . Thank you DAWN for showing the real face of India to the entire world .
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Jun 27, 2015 07:10pm
If true, its shameful and disgusting.
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Jun 27, 2015 07:17pm
If they tortured him they wouldn't handover the body since no one in Pak knows about his death. Don't convert goodwill gesture into bad, think about future.
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Jun 27, 2015 07:18pm
Only cowards can do such a thing.
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Jun 27, 2015 07:20pm
Eye balls pulled out... such hatred....
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Jun 27, 2015 07:45pm
@Zahid : If it is the truth and nothing but the truth , our prayers for the departed soul and also for God to grant both our nations the wisdom and maturity to handle such cross border issues. Given the trust deficit , both Govt must have e better method to address innocent trespasses while reserving exemplary punishment for the deviants .
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Jun 27, 2015 08:13pm
And they ask Pakistan authorties to be civilized??? Shame on India I won't feel sorry if this happens to their people crossing into Pakistan from Gujarat,rajistan or punjab.
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Jun 27, 2015 08:14pm
Very sad, I did not know that savages live in India?
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Jun 27, 2015 08:30pm
I criticize indian security forces if this is true as per story . judicial enquiry should mark.i apologize from family
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Jun 27, 2015 08:49pm
Every time acts of violence are perpetuated against the innocent it is a shameful act. Be it our fishermen or people living at the borders.
Lets hope this is an exception and not the norm, by either countries.
RIP
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Jun 27, 2015 08:53pm
Sounds fishy. Looks like his brother has been told to say all these things.
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Jun 27, 2015 08:58pm
Taking out his eyes and handover the body !!! Indian Brutality
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Jun 27, 2015 09:00pm
How come people are still blaming each other I am sure there are same incidents happening with people crossing into Pakistan accidently. When are we going to realize that this fight of kashmir is not doing any good to anybody.
Hope somebody puts and end to this madness.
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Jun 27, 2015 09:06pm
Eye balls taken out and body handed over. Indian autorities are fool or what that too after 6 years. Yaar its too much to digest.but anyways feel sad for who lost his life RIP.
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Jun 27, 2015 09:10pm
I cannot digest this. just cannot think of the pain he suffered. Pain is same for person belonging to any country , any race, any religion. this common sense should prevail. i pity this person suffered in india and also i pity sarabjeet singh suffered in pakistan.
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Jun 27, 2015 09:16pm
Very sad if what his brother says is true.It is shameful.
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Jun 27, 2015 09:19pm
My pakistani brothers being indian i am sorry, this act is not acceptable, once again extremly sorry and his soul rest in peace.
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Jun 27, 2015 09:25pm
My indian friends - it is so heartening to see voices of sanity too in this forum - there is a hope one day we'll learn to live in peace and love will win over hate.
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Jun 27, 2015 09:28pm
@Zahid I am the saddest person on the earth today if it has truly happened, and I am an Indian too. Even sadder than all of you because it shakes my belief in the country's ideals that I call to be my own. An independent agency should be called in to probe what really happened. Any injustice done to any human being is a grave crime, least of all what has been alleged to be done in case of Waheed Noor.
SAD BEYOND WORDS.
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Jun 27, 2015 09:33pm
@khaqan Brother, Please come this side, or read magazines of this side ... you'll change your opinion. Tragedy is that victims are victims from both the sides (by both the sides as well). If today the victim is from one side of the border tomorrow he is from the other side of the border. Hate and Mistrust are the real borders for both these countries , don't know when will they be erased.
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Jun 27, 2015 09:39pm
What an attitude of I'll minded endians law enforcement agencies. In democracy champion innocent people die just for satasfaction of butchers who want to torture any body from neighbouring Pakistan. In January this year endians bsf seopy crossed border Pakistan returned him safe' endians BSD boat crossed border with two bsf person we returned them unharmed shame for those who want to understand henious crimes commited by india
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Jun 27, 2015 09:43pm
@Pankaj how did the soldiers manage to get inside India by mistake ?
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Jun 27, 2015 09:52pm
Case should e probed and family members shold get justice. If he is not guilty then we are really sorry.
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Jun 27, 2015 10:00pm
sad thing.if courts has exonerated him,why he was not released?this is sure a bad thing.
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Jun 27, 2015 10:03pm
@Pankaj Same feeling I too have as an Indian
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Jun 27, 2015 10:07pm
Yes this is the shame for US as Indians, nothing can justify the coward act. This will not be forgotten but this shloud not influence the future either. How and why these things happen, there is no way to find out. we can only hope this does not happen again.
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Jun 27, 2015 10:12pm
If this story is true then I'm ashamed to be an Indian. Noone deserves such inhumane treatment.. Indian Government must look into this and find out the truth and perpetrators must be punished. For God's sake we all are human first. Let's not forget that.
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Jun 27, 2015 11:01pm
I am ashamed of our security forces and their behaviour in Kashmir.
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Jun 28, 2015 12:15am
As an Indian, I find it difficult to believe it, as this is not done in India. A customary set of photos should be taken at handover, for proof. HOWEVER if this is indeed true, then Indian Security Men have fallen in the view of their own citizens. Justice should be pursued, and should prevail. Shooting of suspicious intruder on border is understandable in specific circumstances, questioning if taken alive, that is normal. Torturing to death is not allowable in any Indian procedure - truth should be found out.
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Jun 28, 2015 12:37am
I am ashamed to read this and more than that, I am very angry. Our courts exonerated him. Even if it had not and he was accused of any wrong doing, there in just no way, absolutely no way that he should have been treated this way. I truly hope our courts take notice of this and make the overzealous security men accountable for what they have done. Shame on these jawans, might be few of them but they did manage to tarnish the image of the armed forces in general. Ordinary Indians, no matter how much differences we have with Pakistani state or its policies, we will never pardon this behavior. Not in our name. Please accept our apology, we are ashamed :(
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Jun 28, 2015 12:52am
@Where is Indians?? now we indian condem this kind act
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Jun 28, 2015 01:43am
@Sadhu u are 100% correct.
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Jun 28, 2015 01:51am
@Arun
Even then there is no justification to kill somebody savagely after person has been exonerated by the court.Indian brave soldiers must be punished for war crimes. Where is ICC?
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Jun 28, 2015 05:30am
If this is true Indian authorities should be notified and the guilty should be punished. But all the statement made by his brother seems to be here say and officially Pakistan must lodge a formal complaint. India is a great country where if abuses are done guilty are punished whereas there is not one case of abusers being punished. Let's not get emotional about it but go in the proper way
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Jun 28, 2015 06:06am
As an Indian I am ashamed.
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Jun 28, 2015 07:01am
This is surly a very bad news. If this is true, then the culprit must brought to justice. Weather he is Pakistani or an Indian, he is a human being first. If any one cross the border then after investigation he should be allowed to return with all dignity
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Jun 28, 2015 07:03am
@ut so how did the guy die in an Indian Jail?? No inquiry??
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Jun 28, 2015 07:05am
I feel sorry to the family members of the slain innocent (declared innocent by Indian court not anybody else) and my fellow pakistani brothers and sisters.
India must punish the people behind his death. This is very condemnable and does not reflect well on the "real india" I know off.
Until people from both side of border unite against there respective "right wing hardliners" such things will keep on happening.
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Jun 28, 2015 07:49am
This story if true has ashamed me. Please convey my condolences and my apologies as Indian to the family of departed. We should investigate and whoever did this should be given exemplary punishment. Possibly life imprisonment with daily 30 minutes chitrol.
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Jun 28, 2015 11:48am
i fell very sorry this happened to him; my condolences to his family; hope sanity will return to the neighbours.
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Jun 28, 2015 10:41pm
I am an Indian and it's a disgrace that such things have happend. India and Pakistan both have been doing such things with each other. condemned
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