Indian corps commander warns 'elements in Pakistan' of 'unexpected damage'
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Indian army's Lieutenant General KH Singh on Monday warned "certain elements in Pakistan" of "unexpected damages" in the wake of repeated exchanges of fire between Indian and Pakistani border forces along the Line of Control and Working Boundary over the past week, according to a report on the NDTV website.
Commander of the Nagrota-based Headquarters 16 Corps outside Jammu, Lt Gen KH Singh said, "There are certain elements across the border who want to create trouble on the Line of Control... we have to give them certain unexpected damage to so that they don't repeat it in future."
Read more: Four killed in Indian BSF firing: ISPR
He claimed that the Pakistani Army shelled and opened fired on Poonch sector villages in India-held Kashmir's Jammu region on Saturday as Eidul Fitr celebrations were underway because the Indian Army had 'stopped terrorists from crossing the border' just a few days earlier.
"One girl was killed on the Pakistan side ─ we regret the incident. The Pakistani army also suffered major damages. They chose the Eid day to retaliate and targeted our civilian areas after Eid prayers," the Indian general said.
Read more: Indian BSF fires at LoC on Eid day: ISPR
Over the past week, at least four Pakistanis were killed in three separate incidents of cross-border firing, and Pakistani troops had shot down a spy drone along the LoC.
Read more: Indian drone downed near LoC
The Pakistan Army registered a complaint with United Nations Military Observers group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) against cease fire violations by the Indian Army along the LoC and Working Boundary, after which a fact-finding team visited Saleh Pur, Chaprar and Malane in Chaprar Sector near working boundary.
Read more: UN observers visit Sialkot working boundary
A day after firing took place along the LoC on Eid, the Foreign Office lodged a strong protest with India over what it said was the "offensive posture" of Indian security forces and a provocative act against the spirit of the Ufa understanding.
Foreign Office spokesman Qazi Khalilullah also said he regretted that the ceasefire violations by the Indian troops are being committed during the Eidul Fitr holidays as was done by them last year.
Read more: Indian ceasefire violation against spirit of Ufa understanding: FO
Tensions along the LoC began flaring up again despite an hour-long meeting between Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) Summit in Ufa, Russia earlier this month.
Read more: Indian PM Modi accepts invite for first Pakistan visit: joint statement
During the meeting, the two leaders had agreed that both India and Pakistan have a collective responsibility to ensure peace and promote development. The meeting had been seen by analysts as a thawing of relations after peace talks between the two estranged neighbours remained suspended since January 2013.
Read more: Pakistan, India border guards abandon customary Eid greeting
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Jul 21, 2015 03:42pm
Bring it ! or keep dreaming
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Jul 21, 2015 03:46pm
That happens when a huge democracy makes modi their PM.
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Jul 21, 2015 03:46pm
It is not in India's interest to keep the flames of the Kashmir issue burning. Why would they want to fire unprovoked and bring attention to the matter?
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Jul 21, 2015 03:46pm
"There are certain elements across the border who want to create trouble on the Line of Control... Yes and those elements are called the Indian Army. Indian Army would be better advised not to rouse the Pakistani Nation or the damage in India will be irrepearable.
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Jul 21, 2015 03:50pm
Unexpected damages is happening at both the end, no one is accepting it. Non state actors are the main culprit but both side are not ready to give up.
With new government things are going so hard. Other side need to understand.
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Jul 21, 2015 03:53pm
Please use common sense.
That's why the say "Think before you speak",
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Jul 21, 2015 03:54pm
Pak is a peaceful country. thus shouldn't be looked at as a weakness. India has a history of harassing it's neighbors. Pak is not Nepal, Sri Lanka or Bangladesh. these statements are coming out of frustration of your motives being crushed in Baluchistan, Kashmir and Karachi. we will crush you? and your sympathizers. Rest assured. Inshaallah.
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Jul 21, 2015 03:55pm
wow I'm terrified now, how about you lot?
general saab threaten someone else.
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Jul 21, 2015 03:55pm
@Jatt We can also see it this way i.e. Why would Pakistan initiate fire upon people which are actually Pakistanis living under occupation? It is not in its interest either.
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Jul 21, 2015 03:58pm
pakistanis, send in a couple of hundred pigeons and the corps commander would be sacked
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Jul 21, 2015 04:01pm
just send some kabootars their way haha
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Jul 21, 2015 04:01pm
India always does these cowardice acts (ceasefire violation) to make the situation in Kashmir from bad to worse n in so justify the enactment of draconian laws like AFSPA and DAA in the civilian areas.....
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Jul 21, 2015 04:02pm
General! you would not have to say this if you could actually do it
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Jul 21, 2015 04:04pm
an Indian general can be so immature.never had this idea
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Jul 21, 2015 04:05pm
@Jay yes indians are innocent.:) Only they have a hard liner extremist as their PM so of course these things will happen. I also wonder why innocent indians would massacre muslims in Burma??? :)
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Jul 21, 2015 04:06pm
@Indian ok so with your new government we need to understand?????? at least think once or twice before you say something
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Jul 21, 2015 04:16pm
I'm so afraid ... 'un-expected damage' ... :) wow ... the immaturity of those who fail to comprehend who they threaten and what they can be subjected to ... keep dreaming general ...
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Jul 21, 2015 04:18pm
@Saad
It's beyond your understanding, don't waste your zero brain in understanding the statements. Situation is changed at National level representation.
I don't need any advise, its an open portal for sharing positive thoughts. Its like take it or leave it. You can leave.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:19pm
General just have a look of what the new generation of Pak army officers have been thru in the last 10 years to know what you are inviting.. and be careful what you say next time ... we are polite in our warnings and when we act we don't speak ..
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Jul 21, 2015 04:19pm
Pakistan needs tough lesson once again
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Jul 21, 2015 04:21pm
@Pakistani
comment in a bad taste. It the strength of the system that a person with humble background is the PM of the largest democracy of the world.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:21pm
At least now admit it that the drone was your own.
Even your iron friend told the same.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:22pm
The lowest of the lows of Indian army killing Pakistani girls.
Shame on your bravery Indian army.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:25pm
Now i expect some response from Gen Raheel or some fanactic group from pakistan...
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Jul 21, 2015 04:26pm
@Indian you got it wrong.. It is the state actors.. Not non state actors.. This excuse was given at the time of kargil war but after defeat they proudly say that they were pakistani army.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:27pm
Every body has a right for 15 second of their fame.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:28pm
Even you pm knows about that certain elements who wants to flare uo the issues
Think firstvand comments what the commader said
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Jul 21, 2015 04:28pm
Acts like fox, As the United Nations Military Observers group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) has visited yesterday the LOC. Now they are trying to hide the facts.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:28pm
Two policies Indians are maintaining.
1) Don't be the first to fire.
2) If you are fired at, retaliation has to be 12 times stronger.
So now Pak needs to decide if they really need it or be at peace.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:29pm
I also warn of an unexpected damage to elements in India ha-ha!!!
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Jul 21, 2015 04:30pm
@Pakistani can you claim that in your country in near future a chai wala can become PM? You are so blinded by your hatred towards India and Modi that you cant even appreciate good things. I feel for your sorry state of mind.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:30pm
@Jay Because your proxies on Pakistan's western borders are being destroyed completely. You guys are loosing billions you invested in Afghanistan in the past decade or so and you don't know what to do to keep pressure on Pakistan. So LOC firing seems like a good idea to you to pressurise Pak Army and divert attention so your proxies can breath in Afghanistan. But thats not gonna happen. We flushed you there in the 90's and we will crush you there again!
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Jul 21, 2015 04:31pm
@Pakistani I am proud of my Chai-wala PM who is pushing hard for India day and night. He is not a businessmen who wants to divide country like housing project and sell it out like Mr Nawaz. Your thinking ensures that there can not be true leader in Pakistan. If there will be any then he/she will be thrown out of country like Adbus Salam.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:32pm
@Abbas Ali I know it's bad in taste, but fascism is bad after all.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:33pm
Narendra Modi is a rare nationalist politician...We Indian feel lucky to have him as our beloved Prime Minister...
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Jul 21, 2015 04:33pm
So grateful that our elders chose Pakistan to live in, Alhamdulillah. Allahu Akbar
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Jul 21, 2015 04:34pm
@pakistanZindabad ----- Pakistan is a peaceful country that is why there had been a bomb blast almost every day . more than 40000 people have so far been killed peacefully.
Sir, you have changed the definition of peace.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:34pm
All those just reacting without realizing the meaning of corp commanders statement should reflect upon the non - state actors he is talking about. you once created them and now you have to launch a full scale military campaign in your own country to wipe them. But this operation is selective as for as India is concerned. And these people and hatred that you are feeding will again come back to haunt you. I just wish its not too late by that time. Because you are only cutting the leaves and branches not the root.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:35pm
I wonder if india is so sure they are right; why wouldn't they allow neutral UN observers to look into this?
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Jul 21, 2015 04:35pm
Peace with Pakistan is not in India's interest, they want to keep Pakistan busy on the borders.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:36pm
Only and Only development in 2 countries will decide the fate of the nation and nothing else, lets not try to redraw boundaries again, it will inflict PAIN and hatred and nothing else.
Do you think any side is going to keep quite if it happens so, so lets not try to comment negatively so that we disrespect such a lovely forum DAWN has given us to connect
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Jul 21, 2015 04:37pm
@Pakistani Can you please tell me what is your PM NS previous occupation before politics.???
Mr. Modi may be once upon a time a Tea seller but with his will power & hard working make himself in the position to become worlds biggest democratic country.
As per your comment poor people can't successful only reach people can.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:37pm
@Yasir you don't know how much imature and greedy their generals r, tell me I am kashmiri and i know few of them who used to come to our school and brainwash us to hate pakistan as they r not good muslims but just pathans, punjabis & sindhis who opressed bengalis who joined them, but even being kids we gave him befitting reply.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:39pm
The drone indeed was china made; now even china has confirmed it. Still, no reaction from Pakistani side????
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Jul 21, 2015 04:39pm
@Armagan Akram It is not a threat, but consequences, there will be reprisals.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:40pm
Here we go again .,,.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:40pm
If you take egos out of this discourse and try to fix the problem like a sane person it will be solved. Else never in a million years.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:40pm
@Toori not in INdia only in pakistan..pakistan has to pay for supporting terrorist
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Jul 21, 2015 04:41pm
This commander should remember that India was conquered and ruled by muslims for most of its history. It is time to repeat history.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:43pm
I don't really get why Pakistani brothers getting charged up at General's comment. He is definitely pointing at Terrorists. Who wants to create trouble at LoC? Certainly not any good government, or even Pak Army.
Even last time when Indian Defense Minister Hon.Mr.Parrikar released a statement involving Terrorist I witnessed similar reactions here. Does this mean you guys sympathize with Terrorism forces? I hope no.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:45pm
Till the time Pakistan is obsessed with "K" word, relation between India & Pakistan couldn't gets normalized. Its time now to move ahead; we already have killed many people in this hatred & fight. I have a suggestion- Let's make current LoC as International border and end this hatred & enmity.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:46pm
Proxies of India (TTP & BLA) are in hot water. Situation in pakistan is stablizing at a expeditious rate. These cunning and shrewd Banya generals are planning to escalate tensions at eastren borders of pakistan to give breathing space to those terrorists, But keep in mind indians u r not USA nd we r not Somalia if u will ever try to do a military adventure against pakistan things will escalate quickly nd whole south asia will cease to exist!!!
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Jul 21, 2015 04:47pm
The general's statement simply shows that India has its share of idiots, just as Pakistan does. Cool it, guys! Stop reacting to every stupid statement that is made. Neither India nor Pakistan wants war, so let us ignore the extremists, whether in uniform or in civilian clothes. By the way, I am a Pakistani who has proudly served in the Army.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:47pm
@Dipak Singh Poor have the same rights and they contribute as much as any rich man does to the progress of a nation. The problem is not his profession, but his fascism. Moreover, sensible nations select people upon their capabilities, not solely on their nationalism.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:48pm
I think 90% of the comments are based on just the headline. I ask everyone to take time and read the news in brief. General is strictly speaking against non-state acts of terrorism.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:49pm
This is some thing to ponder on. Can Pakistan afford the cost of these escalations....I doubt it. Rhetoric may result in unbearable cost to the nation....Leadership has changed in the neighboring country and you cannot walk away with your misadventure without paying a heavy price.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:52pm
Commander, don't speak, just do it . Then let us know.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:52pm
@Ishtiaq khan In the last 4 months, Indian Defence Minister spoke and said terrorists will be fought with same kind. Indian PM said in Bangladesh how Pakistan was divided with Indian help, he also said Pakistan keeps sending nuisance elements to India and also that Pakistan has no guts to fight a convention war with India and hence are using proxy elements, now this statement from the ground. All of the above have been reported by DAWN, what has Pak army or leadership done except run to UN which resulted in nothing. What will change now?
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Jul 21, 2015 04:53pm
@Changez_Khan brother is not true...Its conspiracy theory dear.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:54pm
We were told in India the army is subservient to the civil government. Who allowed this Corps Commander to deliver this outburst?
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Jul 21, 2015 04:56pm
@skybolt your soldiers do not fight with India, else all of Pakistan knows the results. The scare is always "THE BOMB" and statements such as "Pakistan is a nuclear state and we did not develop a bomb for keeping in a showcase". Pakistan Army and Leadership has not been able to counter the provocative statements by Indian army and political leadership recently. There is no doubt Modi has raised the stakes in the game of Kashmir and the price will be high in the coming years.
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Jul 21, 2015 04:57pm
Come and Get it !!! Seriously..Come on already..!! Enough with all the chest thumping !! Lets get this over with once and for all..!
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Jul 21, 2015 05:01pm
Till 2014 India used to complain against Pak. Now trend has been reversed..Thank god Modi is there..!!!
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Jul 21, 2015 05:05pm
@Haroon Do you mean you see muslims in India as living under occupation or are your views only limited to Kashmir?
Either way kashmiris dont see you as liberators and would rather stay with India if they dont get a separate state!
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Jul 21, 2015 05:10pm
I appreciate the reporting of DAWN.
They try reporting views from both sides. EXCELLENT.
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Jul 21, 2015 05:11pm
He's only fooling himself and his people. Pak Army suffered no major damages at all. The only thing they damaged were civilian areas. There's nothing he can do except saber-rattle. He himself knows that every time they violate the ceasefire, it is us who will fire back harder. india under modi is a hostile state, we need to be on the same page vis-a-vis india and it's aggression which must be responded to in the only language they know.
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Jul 21, 2015 05:12pm
Indian held Kashmir will remain part of pakistan the people there live and breath for Pakistan under Indian occupation. The Indian Dravidians are killing them and killing people in Pakistan.
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Jul 21, 2015 05:15pm
@Indian Your PM is an extremist. BJP is an extremist party, as is your RSS. If you are denying that, then it's you in denial.
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Jul 21, 2015 05:15pm
The worthy Corps Commander should control his men not to open fire on civil population because of panic and fear.
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Jul 21, 2015 05:16pm
@Saffron Is that why Kashmiris wave the Pakistan flag and have always rejected indian claims on Kashmir since 48? Even the PDP is not pro india and they are in power.
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Jul 21, 2015 05:16pm
Indians never respected any agreement / contract until now, since 1947. and we don't expect they will respect any such paper in reality.
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Jul 21, 2015 05:18pm
Pakistan citizen do not know wether due to media or other reasons but loc militant crossing in India is common .
Due to this reason militant incident happen in Kashmir ,due to high security presence they can't train in Kashmir itself so they come across loc.
The massage was intended for some people across loc and they get that massage .
But I regret that poor people on both side of border have to bear the brunt of these mischief.Sorry for that but this will only increase hatred nothing else .
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Jul 21, 2015 05:18pm
Pakistan is restraing due to other side pakistani.but if responded then it will be proper reply to cunning india
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Jul 21, 2015 05:20pm
Try your luck anytime.Its not a Bollywood movie
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Jul 21, 2015 05:22pm
Somebody has to remind Mr Singh about Kargil war.
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Jul 21, 2015 05:24pm
interesting comments... like waging a war of words... what would it achieve nothing... can we focus on solution rather than problems... no wonder the problem linger on and never gets resolved.... lack of visionary leadership....Great leaders are almost always great simplifiers, who can cut through argument, debate and doubt, to offer a solution everybody can understand.
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Jul 21, 2015 05:30pm
When I read comments such as these from Indian generals I laugh. It is comedy centrale.
India, a country that is living on the handouts of a few western nations as a call center ..... should have the gall to threaten a nuclear power Pakistan.
It is laughable!!!
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Jul 21, 2015 05:32pm
Indians ( hindus) have nothing to lose in keep creating trouble on the boarder. there are muslims on both sides (kashmiris ) who are going to suffer.
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Jul 21, 2015 05:51pm
On the LoC, there should be no cease fire. We pay soldiers to defend our land and not exchange sweets...
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Jul 21, 2015 05:52pm
Indian Army lives in fool paradise, they pretend to be smart but all their tactics are gone with the wind. And, at the end of the day, they have nothing but to beat/kill Muslims/minorites in Jummu Kashmir and across India, balantly. 'Khalistan's movement and demonstration of Sikh community in front of British Parliament is one of examples for Indian Government to think about..
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Jul 21, 2015 06:16pm
@Pakistani ...Mr Modi is a God sent gift to India. If the man can rise from his humble birth to be the PM of a country of 1.3 billion he speaks volumes for his capability.
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Jul 21, 2015 06:16pm
India has a very matured democracy, so is their military establishment. True. It is our immaturity on both counts what we spread in media to feed our ignorant people and also to appease our semi-literate mullahz.
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Jul 21, 2015 06:26pm
Give these useless taktive indian a WAR they will never forget and all will be perfectly fine.
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Jul 21, 2015 06:28pm
@A truthful Muslim India is happy that Nawaz did not raise Kashmir issue and willing to work on other things like trade and peace but some people are not happy about this and hence raising tension on the border
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Jul 21, 2015 06:28pm
KH Singh's statement of "unexpected damage" actually refers to 1985, and I'm sure KH Singh being a sikh knows well.
Whta is imporatnt, India or Khalistan, Mr KH Singh, choose one.
Khalistan Zindabad
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Jul 21, 2015 06:28pm
@Indian and @Pakistani: Please dont presume to talk for an entire nation by labelling yourself "Indian" and "Pakistani".
Let the ordinary people live in peace in both countries. Whoever ordered the firing has no respect for his own people, and whoever ordered the retaliatory firing has no respect for his own people.
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Jul 21, 2015 06:34pm
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A truthful Muslim
- Fantastic, I liked your views, not because you praised india but you were truthful, and areal Hindu or Muslim is truthful only
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Jul 21, 2015 06:47pm
Guys - think for a moment. India is happy with the status quo - keeping Kashmiris in check and preventing the Internationalization of the issue. then you tell me why would they start firing on the border?? Something doesnt add up..
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Jul 21, 2015 06:54pm
@Faisal : We know what happened to minorities in Jammu an Kashmir - and that in your country. At least that's not the case with the minorities in rest of India - they are thriving and growing in population.
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Jul 21, 2015 06:55pm
Indian general, corps commander, do you know the truth? My uncle was a doctor with the 14th British Army that re-conquered Burma. He would tell us that when orders went to the desi soldiers to march into battle, it was the Sikh infantry men who started crying like little children--not the Punjabis, Pathans, nor the Bengali Muslims.
From Atlanta, Georgia
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Jul 21, 2015 07:13pm
@Saffron My comment was specifically for Kashmir and it does not imply that Kashmiris want one thing or the other. It only implies the fact that Pakistan considers Kashmir as its own territory and Kashmiris as its own people. You, sir, must be a wizard to be able to speak on behalf of all the Kashmiris and knowing what they want without even holding a promised plebiscite.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:13pm
@A truthful Muslim wow brother u nailed it it is people like who can save ur country where unfortunately people r brainwashed by govt...
I wish there could be more persons like u...
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Jul 21, 2015 07:17pm
These are Modi's tactics. He is a war monger and they keep instigating by first shelling and then blaming Pakistan for initiating the firing when Pakistani army return. Of course no one can have proof on who started first and their political and military leadership start giving all those provoking interviews.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:18pm
@Ekram .... Amazing news. I must say hindus have no guts, right opportunity to capture kashmir....Come on, lets do it
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Jul 21, 2015 07:21pm
@p r sharma ya pakistan is a peaceful country. Why would we bomb our own country. If there is a terror attack on India, then you blame pakistan. Who is to blame when there is bomb going off everyday in pakistan. All the border trouble started the same time as we started operation in karachi.. These people bombing our country is getting paid from somewhere and that ain't us. God save us all, doesn't matter if it's Indian or pakistani. Media only shows what they want us to believe...
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Jul 21, 2015 07:22pm
The suppression of democracy and human rights perpetrated by India against the civilian population of Kashmir is a travesty of justice in our modern era.
The majority of people in Kashmir do not want to part of you, India, get it?
They care secondarily about local elections and economic development.
What they want is a chance to breath free - like all human beings do.
These kinds of tragedies, like this poor innocent girl, will recur over and over until the Kashmiri people get their freedom and India shows it is a true democracy...
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Jul 21, 2015 07:22pm
Another toothless Indian General, giving sound bites, for media. You will be silenced like your drone, down, flat and dead, which you are trying so hard to disown.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:24pm
If India makes the mistake of doing panga with Pakistan, Indian has much more to loose, just remember that. And tell this to your own Bush aka Modi
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Jul 21, 2015 07:25pm
All Pakistani People Know Who is "certain elements in Pakistan", Don't be ignore , terrorist Like Hiding in Pakistan, Need very deep flush to eradicate "certain elements in Pakistan"
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Jul 21, 2015 07:28pm
@Qamer .... Pakistanis and Indians do not have enough jobs. They should be kept busy in the army.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:29pm
@Vande Matram non state actors are kashmiris fighting to have the UN plebiscite as per resolution implemented.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:29pm
It amazes me when I read all these threatening comments from people on both sides,not one of you are in the military,not one of you have the courage to go out and face death.WE need peace on both sides of the fence.Lets come together and demand it,expect it and work toward it.Non of this here helps,just remember,if the war breaks out,WE THE PEOPLE are the ones to lose,the government officials will be sitting in some bunker.Loss of life is lose of life,regardless of which side it is.No one gains from it.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:30pm
Its the real threat. Pakistan should be ready to give a befitting reply to Indian side.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:34pm
@Tariq n Hindu from Kashmir you have already removed
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Jul 21, 2015 07:34pm
@Indian;
They are non-state actors only on Pakistani side, on the Indian side it is the state that is engaging in terrorism.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:47pm
1 harmless comment from Indian commander and people in Pak are on fire. While Indians have been silently tolerating insurgency by Pak for past 25 years.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:50pm
A very irresponsible threat against a peaceful nuclear power. Pakistan should highlight his threat on all international fora.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:52pm
Who put a coin in Gen Singh head? Now he'll never stop talking nonsense.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:03pm
@Zeeshan Shamsi .Don't worry.That day will come.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:03pm
indian general you are 5 year old?
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Jul 21, 2015 08:05pm
In other news today - Iran has opened up firing on the Iran Pakistan border. So you now have open frontiers with India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Be calm and reason as to why Pakistan is in this state
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Jul 21, 2015 08:08pm
@Zahir .... That is Pakistan's problem right there. This has nothing to do with who is right or wrong. You have been taught and trained to believe in a black and white, right or wrong world. ...... It ain't so.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:08pm
Modi has chosen the right man in 'Doval' who is master strategist and will deliver the results in 5 Years. Lets wait and watch.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:10pm
Come on guys , what's wrong in what he said. If they are hurting India, there is nothing wrong in acting against them. Why are you guys protecting criminals with comments like this?
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Jul 21, 2015 08:11pm
@Vande Matram
believe it or not but Nawaz Sharif is from a humble background originally. he may be a millionaire now, but when he grew it was not so. Neither has anyone accused him of genocide like modi.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:13pm
@p r sharma
and what of the indian defence ministers admission that india is involved in terrorism?
pot calling kettle black me thinks.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:15pm
India has not seen war where as pakistanis are living it every day from every side of the border.
I say bring it on and settle this once and for all.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:23pm
This general is a clown. Ignore him.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:23pm
They tried to pull a Mukti-Bahini on Pakistan again, but this time there is no Bhutto to support them.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:28pm
Keep living in denial..you are the land of pure. World is watching your commitment for peace!
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Jul 21, 2015 08:32pm
@Dara Singh .... Unless all of Pakistan learns to cooperate with the rest of the world Pakistan will suffer a slow death.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:33pm
@Maratha it's never bad to dream; just don't be upset when dreams become nightmares
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Jul 21, 2015 08:35pm
@Aryan it was a quad rotor not a "drone" and it was being operated by india. We shot it down, that's the end of it.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:38pm
@Indian , so true, we shall be grateful to Dawn to provide such a wonderful forum for all of us to comment and learn from others' their feelings, thinking and an opportunity to find a common ground for nationals of two countries (pakistan and india- but one nation).
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Jul 21, 2015 08:38pm
@Akram .... A lieutenant general can do any damned thing he pleases.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:41pm
@S Hussain Khan , you really wish for that? War in modern times are not a lose-lose situation for the winner and the loser alike.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:42pm
Actually this war is between 2 Punjab's who got divided but one Punjab has backing of all the state and other one is ruining all the states. Decide on your own what I am referring to.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:43pm
@Elemental if supporting Kashmir liberation and countering indian nefarious designs in Kashmir is "terrorism" then okay fine, so be it!
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Jul 21, 2015 08:44pm
It is best to accept status quo and accept the LOC as the border. Both sides keep laying claim to the other part, and obviously won't budge an inch. I am sure most people on both sides are ok with this. There will be some consternation within both armies, but once visa restrictions are eased and people start focusing on things in common rather than the minor differences, everything will settle down. When travel is so easy between US/Canada/Mexico and within the numerous countries in Europe, why can't we do this? It would awesome to visit the beautiful places that Dawn keeps showcasing from time to time. However, as I always mention here, the security situation has to improve.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:54pm
@Dipak Singh .... In a true democracy people are valued by what they can do with their lives, not by who their fathers are. Pakistani democracy has never been allowed by it's land owners and it's army to evolve.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:57pm
just reply in kind! Whats the point of complaining?
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Jul 21, 2015 08:57pm
Indian newspapers published warning by Hafeez Saeed today to India. This blame game is too old for both countries.
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Jul 21, 2015 09:10pm
Dream on
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Jul 21, 2015 09:25pm
@NKY .... People commenting here are missing the point. What the joint UN team needs to investigate is whether or not the girl was killed intentionally. If the bullet was mean for her the soldier who fired the shot should be imprisoned or executed by the Indian army. Some young soldiers like to kill. That is what we need to know.
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Jul 21, 2015 09:42pm
Uexpected damage! General Sahab one who digs a whole for others falls himself into it...
Got it!
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Jul 21, 2015 10:37pm
An Indian general felt the need to give an unusually silly statement 1 day after UN observers visited the Pakistan side. Hmm, the truth must come out
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Jul 21, 2015 10:43pm
Now where have I heard this kind of rhetoric before?
Ah, I remember...the hindustanis used it back in September 1965, just a few days before we blew their air force out of our skies.
Hasan
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Jul 21, 2015 10:48pm
Can we take a pledge that we will not fire across each others' borders?
Can we take a pledge that we will not encourage terrorists against the other country?
May be these will be the new points in the next Joint Statement
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Jul 21, 2015 10:59pm
@Sonny Afridi Still, the current way is not the right one. Blaming and firing shells at each other won't free a single person of Kashmir.
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Jul 21, 2015 11:18pm
Unexpected damage? Ha!
First of all learn to control your country or else you will be broken into pieces.....dont forget that we gave you the list of khalistan movement or else that would have been done by now....
And we dare you to touch our boundary, kargil was the dare you couldn't answer till now, baat kartay hain!
The whole population of 1.3 billion will have suffer because of a religious fanatic!
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Jul 21, 2015 11:36pm
Sounds like commander is extremely worried.
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Jul 21, 2015 11:51pm
@Vande Matram By the way your PM is doing exactly what you are preaching Pakistan not to do.
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Jul 21, 2015 11:55pm
Mr Singh - Just try and you will never say these words again.We will do to you what the US did to Afghanistan.
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Jul 22, 2015 01:07am
@Krishna can we pledge that kashmir will be resolved by discussion and under UN resolution mandate. Then permanent peace will prevail.
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Jul 22, 2015 01:52am
@hussain And what US is doing to Pakistan.
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Jul 22, 2015 02:43am
@Aryan you call a toy a drone???
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Jul 22, 2015 03:09am
@pakistanZindabad You are right, every body knows this. What a joke!
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Jul 22, 2015 03:33am
Let's strive for peace
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Jul 22, 2015 04:18am
@p r sharma I think you don't understand English. Do you think Pakistanis are doing all this...Pakistani nation is a peaceful nation and is against all forms of extremism. We are fighting war to get peace in the land not because we enjoy doing this....you need to learn the basics of English and the context in which it is spoken
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Jul 22, 2015 04:49am
So long mody and rs are in power relations between two nuclear neighbors will never improve as this government has been elected of hate votes against muslims. So wherever india tries to take liberties we should give them befitting reply.
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Jul 22, 2015 05:00am
@Monal Put technology of surveillance and motion detector on the border and broadcast on internet. No reason to argue.
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Jul 22, 2015 05:06am
@raja hindustani Kashmir solution will not end problem with Pakistan. There are 200million Muslims in India, who have nothing to do with Pakistan. However, Pakistan will demand piece Indian states with Muslim population such as UP, Kerala, Bengal, MP, Bihar, and Andhra Pradesh etc.. This demand will never end.
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Jul 22, 2015 05:07am
@Zak Why bring UN. There have been agreements in Shimla and Lahore that supercede UN. I thought you are an intelligent person.
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Jul 22, 2015 07:08am
@Vande Matram But your Chai wala has been involved in killings in Gujrat and East Pakistan, now you guys will pay the price. Indra paid the price and so did Rajiv, remember.
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Jul 22, 2015 08:30am
@pakistanZindabad ....actually its worse you are right
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Jul 22, 2015 09:00am
@Jatt people like you spread hatred. Neither Pakistan nor India will do war, so stop daydreaming.
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Jul 22, 2015 09:29am
@Pakistani agreed and that's why Modi is president. Look at the work he did as a chief minister. Look at the work he is doing for India now. Show me one politician in Pakistan working 50% for country compared to modi
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Jul 22, 2015 09:49am
The same blame game continues. I always wonder if this will ever stop. Each side blames the other and then nothing happens.
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Jul 22, 2015 10:28am
@Hasan hahahaha, good one.
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Jul 22, 2015 01:26pm
@Elemental we sympathise with kashmiri freedom fighters who fight for their right to UN plebiscite, but you evade facts and call them 'terrorists' for your own false policy.
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Jul 22, 2015 01:34pm
@UKumar simla was 44 years ago and as stated ' to be resolved within reasonable time, failing which, other means can be sought', which basically means back to the UN international body. I am intelligent and humble, so all of you learn from me.
Forget Simla, Lahore, Delhi, UFA etc-the will of the nation of Kashmir will be decided by the nationals of Kashmir and UN Plebiscite is the only democratic route. End of story.
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Jul 22, 2015 02:49pm
@zak
before un plebiscite, the status of j& K has to be restore to the one it was in 1947. which means pakistan withdrawing its forces from the portion occupied by it, china has to give back the portion gifted to it by pakistan and also give up aksai chin.
can your ensure this first. then we can talk of plebscite
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