Indian maid's arm cut off by 'Saudi employer', Swaraj terms act unacceptable
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CHENNAI: Indian Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj on Friday said the government has recorded a protest with Saudi authorities after an Indian woman's right arm was chopped off allegedly by her employer in Saudi Arabia last Tuesday.
Kashturi Munirathinam, 58, claimed her arm was chopped off by her employer after she had complained to local authorities about being harassed and tortured, NDTV reported.
Kashturi had gone to Saudi Arabia to work as domestic help three months ago. Her family in Tamil Nadu says she was being tortured and starved by her employer.
"This is unacceptable," said Swaraj. "We have taken this up with Saudi authorities."
"We are very much disturbed over the brutal manner in which Indian lady has been treated in Saudi Arabia," Swaraj said.
The Foreign Ministry said the Indian embassy in Riyadh had taken up the case with the Saudi Foreign Office and asked for attempted murder charges against Kashturi's employer.
Kashturi's relatives in Tamil Nadu's Vellore district claim they learnt about the incident "through agents who sent her to Saudi Arabia", and said they also had a mobile phone video of her.
S. Vijayakumari, Kashturi's sister, said that her sister had gone to Saudi Arabia to help pay off her family's debts and she had been promised a monthly salary of around 180 dollars.
“But she was not paid, she was barely given enough to eat and not even allowed to speak to her family ... Now she only wants to come home,“ Vijayakumari said.
"Kashturi's employer was angry after she told local officials about the harassment she was facing there," Vijayakumari was quoted by the Press Trust of India.
"When she tried to escape the harassment and torture, her right hand was decapitated by the woman employer. She fell and suffered serious spinal injuries," she said.
Vijayakumari has appealed to the Indian government to bring her sister back from Riyadh, where she is recovering in hospital, and help with her treatment.
Thousands of women from India travel to the Middle-east to work as domestic help and in search of better pay.
Read: Saudi diplomat accused of rape withdrawn from India
In September, a Saudi embassy official in New Delhi was accused of repeatedly raping, assaulting and abusing two Nepali maids at his home.
The women told police they were starved and were held hostage for several months after leaving Nepal to work for the diplomat. The diplomat, who is protected by the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, was then withdrawn from India.
The Saudi embassy had denied the allegations.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:20pm
This is what, they are, still they blame others...
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Oct 09, 2015 02:21pm
Only Indian government has guts to stand by to it's citizens !!
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Oct 09, 2015 02:27pm
Though it is a brutal act which merits condemnation from all over the world; however it is a shame for the nuclear India whose ladies work abroad in the capacity of domestic maids while its leaders frequently threaten its neighbors with imaginary military intervention inside their (neighbors') territories. Instead of threatening their neighbors and boasting about rising and shining India; the Indian leaders should provide bread & butter to such poor ladies.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:33pm
I respect a lot about Indian government care about overseas Indians.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:33pm
India does not have courage to take serious steps except to lodge protest.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:39pm
Where was Sushma Sawtaj when an Indian Muslim was brutally linched front of his children. Don,t cry crocodile tears if love your domestics so much why not spend less on your armed forces and provide jobs for less fortunate people.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:42pm
Dear Muhammad Khan, how it became shame when a lady works, I really do not understand, if she is Indian or Pakistani or whatever. Every body has freedom to work as per their qualification and experience. The way she has been treated has to be condemned. She is a maid, not terrorist or thief. You linking something which is irrelevant to the subject.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:43pm
The agents who sent Kashturi Munirathinam to Saudi Arabia should be arrested and punished severely for sending a women to SA with out the company of a male member of her family. These agents are making millions at the cost of lives and hounors of illustrate people.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:46pm
It seems everyone in S Arabia thinks himself as the royal king when it comes to poor , helpless maids from subcontinent (including Pakistan).
This country needs a serious reality check.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:49pm
A brutal act must be condemned whether it is happening in Saudia, India or elsewhere. Neither Islam nor any worldly law subscribe to such barbaric acts. The culprit must be taken to task so that the justice is done. Humanity should never suffer because of politics or any other reason.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:50pm
@Muhammad Khan: You mean millions of Pakistanis who work in West and Arabian countries because Pakistan is poor country and they could not find any job or means to live, as Pakistani leaders loot anything they get their hands on and than transfer that loot to west or Arab countries), then it is fair for their employers to treat them like animals and cut of their limbs?
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Oct 09, 2015 02:50pm
The poor woman has the good "fortune" of being an Indian. Indian government at least has the guts to raise the issue, unlike our slave Pakistani government. We all know how terrible Saudi Arabia record is regarding human rights and that's just another feather in the hat.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:51pm
The Saudis are still living in stone age.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:52pm
Ms Swaraj would be better off tweeting her outrage and use words like "unacceptable" for the domestic issues where a man was lynched to death for the suspicion of eating beef.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:52pm
Sometimes i think that these Saudis are not even human.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:53pm
Excellent! A right step in the right direction. Pakistan and India must stop sending their labour to GCC countries otherwise we will continue to read such news.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:55pm
The action of the Saudi employer are criminal and I am confident the Saudi government will investigate the matter.
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Oct 09, 2015 02:57pm
@Kashmiri Sushma Swaraj is External affairs minister not Home minister. she has spoken in the area under her jurisdiction. Home minister/Prime minster /President has spoken against killing in Dadri.
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Oct 09, 2015 03:00pm
@ Muhammad khan.. They are India's strength. India care for Its people. Yhere is no shame in working.. All developing country worker go for work.. but safety pf these workors is our responsibility.. we will fight for justice. 43 of your people are still missing in Mina stampede.. u even dont even know their fate..
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Oct 09, 2015 03:03pm
@Muhammad Khan More than feeling bad for the lady and writing about Saudi Arabia you are writing against india. You people are raised hating others. It's not your fault ,the news is about a lady whose hands have been chopped off not about india. There are many incidents where Pakistani maid have been treated bad in Saudi Arabia ,What you say about them? Man be sensible and please do not raise your next generation like you were raised.
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Oct 09, 2015 03:03pm
@Muhammad Khan So it means that Saudi Arabia reserves the right of chopping the hands of poor women from India and Pakistan because these governments are unable to feed their poor? That's a pretty terrifying assessment of the issue.
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Oct 09, 2015 03:12pm
@Rome cruser: Saudis do not care. Forget caring for their employees, they do not even care invading neighbouring Muslim country and bomb old, women and children in that country indiscriminately, using cluster bombs that are made illegal by UN. Even USA, a brutal force and considered inconsiderate, do bombing more discretely and considerately than Saudis.
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Oct 09, 2015 03:16pm
Guys ! She is a human being first of all and the act should be condemned and justice must be sought . End of all discussions . We should not be dragging politics and border disputes into matters of human rights.
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Oct 09, 2015 03:17pm
@kashmiri Whatever happened in dadri is highly condemnable and the Indian prime minister,home minister and president have already spoken against what happened.However does that inicident change the way we need to handle the case of this woman as a nation ?.Does her blood mean less than that of a muslim.?The answer is big NO.If she was a muslim would you have responded differently.Please learn to see humans as humans and not as a Hindu or Muslim.I for one feel equally pained when such injustices happen to anyone irrespective of his or her religion ,because the pain we feel and the love we nuture is the same .
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Oct 09, 2015 03:22pm
It would do great good to humanity if we could stop this propaganda of hatred,paranoia,blaming others for.our own shortcomings and self victimisation.
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Oct 09, 2015 03:27pm
Dear @Syed Hassan Naqvi and all other criticizers of my above post; I wrote that this barbaric act needs condemnation from all over the world which, of course include myself. All over the world means irrespective of breed, creed or religion. My point of view is that the Indian leaders should spend money on their poor people so that such ladies find respectable jobs in their own country rather than India becoming the number one Arms importer in the world. Their leaders must learn to live in peace with their neighboring countries which will bring prosperity to the Subcontinent whose people will then not go these Arab countries living in there at the mercy of their Kafeels (sponsors). These Arab Sponsors deal with the people of Subcontinent like slaves of ancient time forfeiting even their passports. So let India and Pakistan solve the Kashmir problem so that prosperity return to the Subcontinent wherein money will then be spent for the welfare of their people.
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Oct 09, 2015 03:33pm
@Kashmiri
Sushma Swaraj is the Minister for External Affairs and this case is right in her domain.
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Oct 09, 2015 03:39pm
Saudi Arabia's people they think that they are the Royal & who ever work under them from South Asia is actually poor their life is cheap or no value of life. So they can beat them as they want.
few day's back a video leaked from Saudi.. An employer who beating an employee like nothing.
I have got lot of opportunity from Gulf country & Arab but I never applied for that and even I want to suggest my countrymen or south Asia people don't go their for job.
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Oct 09, 2015 03:49pm
@dc They don't know about any difference between foreign minister, home minister, prime minister and military general. So leave it.
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Oct 09, 2015 03:54pm
My heart goes out to the poor common citizens of 3rd world countries who are forced to leave their homeland and families to make ends meet. Deplorable act against which the Indian Authorities must take a firm stand. I also urge people and government ts of the subcontinent to channel energy and resources in improving living status of their citizens and alleviating poverty from the region
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Oct 09, 2015 03:55pm
How many Pakistani's have been decapitated, there is no record, no one knows, no one cares, this is what happens when humans become insensitive and apathy becomes the norm. There is a need to voice concern, and take appropriate steps. The Indian government should take very strong action
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Oct 09, 2015 04:04pm
@Kamal Pasha atleast they are lodging protest but what about Pakistan when they behead or arrest pakistanis without giving any consular rights. what about when saudi prince comes in Pakistan to kill its rare birds?
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Oct 09, 2015 04:14pm
Why you go there where culture is of choping and beheading..
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Oct 09, 2015 04:15pm
Well atleast indian goverment has guts to stand firm and straight for its people here pakistan goverment is leaving no stone unturned to stop media and people to criticize saudi goverment on mina stampede shame !
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Oct 09, 2015 04:18pm
@MUHAMMAD KHAN have u ever worked in Dubai etc ? Even American girls work there as luxury hotel house keeping staff. And lots of Europeans too. Swiss girls work as pastry chefs in the bakeries of such facilities. people looking for alternative avenues of employment for better pay has nothing to do with the country's employment capacity. It all depends upon individual's talent and capacity. If a maid gets better pay outside for what she can do, she will go. Similarly software engineers who left for west are now getting better pays in India so they are returning back.
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Oct 09, 2015 04:19pm
@ adnan.. such a shame.. its the news we all are reading.. u r saying this is Indian version.. even though whatever you say is true is this okay to serve justice in this manner.. dont they have courts. Even under so called Shari'a law there must be some arguement before chopping ones hand.. i pity you and your deep rooted hate againsta Indian.. she was a women working in foreign country for a better life for her n her family.. just one word for you..
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Oct 09, 2015 04:30pm
Saudis will pay a meager amount of cash to the poor maid's family and they will happily shut up. Case closed. In six weeks from today the news media and the public moves on to the next titillating story and will forget all about this lady. The agents will continue to send more domestic workers from the Asian countries. The Saudis will continue their barbaric treatment of the poor. This cycle of abuse & torture continues. Everybody is happy or so it seems.
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Oct 09, 2015 04:49pm
@Taimoor Khan A lynching in india is no official concern for external affairs minister. Our home ministry is taking steps against it. By the way the BJP/NDA government does not govern in Uttar Pradesh.
The reason you even know about this incident is because not only the indian media but also huge number of people are condemning this issue and of course publishing this.
There is no Marshal law in my nation.
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Oct 09, 2015 05:09pm
@Muhammad Khan in that context how would advice the govt of Pakistan whose menial labors are working in gulf in a similar situation, after all u r too Nuclear
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Oct 09, 2015 05:09pm
Saudi treat expat as slaves
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Oct 09, 2015 05:12pm
@Muhammad Khan Wow, how realistic, do you know exactly how many are the 1.2 billion people means. creating jobs, and facilities for them is not a easy task and can not be done in 3 or 4 years. and what you think, they should remain in their home and wait for that day. having mouth and speaking some golden words is easy task. Now a days any tom dk and harry comes and give lecture but dont see the miserable condition of his own home.
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Oct 09, 2015 05:14pm
It seems that many Saudi employers are barbaric and the Saudi government consistently fails to protect the foreign workers let alone grant of basic human and civil rights.
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Oct 09, 2015 05:16pm
It is unacceptable. Good on the Indian govt for standing up for their citizen.
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Oct 09, 2015 05:39pm
@Muhammad Khan Pakistanis also goes to Saudi Arabia to work. They are equally mistreated by their Saudi employer. Is your solution to just keep quiet?
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Oct 09, 2015 05:45pm
@Kamal Pasha A warning is given before showing your guts and if the warning doesn't work than the guts are shown.
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Oct 09, 2015 05:52pm
@Kashmiri -- Great comments
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Oct 09, 2015 06:09pm
@Akki ,Lets wait for the results before bragging about Indian Govt. In my opinion nothing will happened to that Saudi employer.
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Oct 09, 2015 06:09pm
That been said, it's a gruesome act against a poor and helpless woman and I condemn it as I condemn the killing of a man on 'suspicion' of eating/having beef.
Culprits are powerful in both scenarios, in one case an individual while in second one it was a mob. Both got blind by their perceived power and used the force unnecessarily.
Aghast! That Indian Political Leadership is condemning one and justifying the other.
If it was not an act of 'justification', what was the purpose of conducting a 'forensic' test on the meat to prove it a beef or else?
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Oct 09, 2015 06:17pm
I think Saudi Arabia should start teaching better humanity course to its citizens!!
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Oct 09, 2015 06:28pm
Mrs. swaraj investigate Modi first for the murder of 2000 innocent muslim women and children.!!!
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Oct 09, 2015 06:39pm
Saudi authorities claim they have Islamic law. Now shall they cut off the arm of the employer? Unfortunately, this Islamic law is only for Non Saudis
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Oct 09, 2015 06:41pm
I am sure this is not the first time such a heinous act has been committed. What the heck is Modi government doing apart from fanning hatred against Pakistan. Call back all Indian, Filipinos and Srilankan maids
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Oct 09, 2015 06:41pm
@Kashmiri She is external affairs minister. She only deals with foreign matter not national issues. Please think before commenting online.
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Oct 09, 2015 06:42pm
@Taimoor Khan She is foreign affair minister.
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Oct 09, 2015 06:44pm
This is a despicable act and all of us must condemn such acts that happen too frequently in SA, an force the country to bring to justice perpetrators of these crimes.
BTW, I thought we were told that India is such a developed country. How come its women are working as maids to payoff their debts in other countries for paltry $185 per month?
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Oct 09, 2015 06:49pm
@Taimoor Khan The reason Ms Swaraj didn't tweeted her outrage and use words like sues was bad and was already condemned by entire India from all sect"unacceptable" for the domestic issues where a man was lynched to death for the suspicion of eating beef is because she is a FM and the domestic issues doesn't fall in MEA jurisdiction rather it falls in MHA jurisdiction which has not only condemned it but taken action as well by arresting many and court forwarding them.But anyways what happened on that rumored beef ision of societies including PM and President.
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Oct 09, 2015 06:58pm
People should avoid going to these countries. It has better opportunities. For few more bucks don't compromise your life and self esteem.
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Oct 09, 2015 06:58pm
@Mohan Kishore D Dear Mohan. Instead of spending billions on army , provide jobs to these poor and don't exploit your poor people and neighbors also. Vow! Indian 20% shining , others suffering. Super power.
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Oct 09, 2015 07:03pm
This is the difference between India and our govt. Not a single leader from Pakistan has guts to twitt and use such a strong language. The arab are notorious and treat people like slave. Wearing religion everywhere made them more violant in their acts.
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Oct 09, 2015 07:04pm
Extremely brutal act. If this inhuman act is carried out , the animal must be punished severely. May god help this poor lady.
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Oct 09, 2015 07:06pm
@Kamal Pasha How many complaints we lodged over Haj? You are ignoring that PEMRA warned people and media not to condemn Saudi on Haj. Such a shameful record we have.
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Oct 09, 2015 07:09pm
Barvo Madam Swaraj! We seldom got leader like you.
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Oct 09, 2015 07:11pm
What about the nepali ladies raoed by Saudi diplomat in Delhi and India allowed him leave India without any police action?
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Oct 09, 2015 07:13pm
The worst violators of human rights in the world believe that they represent a religion.. The United Nations should action and investigate such matters. There is a large number of cases which are hidden and are not reported. Cases such as rape, murder, torture, harassment and sexual misconduct. Time for people to know the real face of the Saudi's
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Oct 09, 2015 07:15pm
@Prateek lynching people for beef colud only happen in enlightened society. (Not an excuse for this burtilty, but painting everything in balck in white without looking in mirror isn't good either )
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Oct 09, 2015 07:31pm
Unbelievable, has it really happened, O my GOD gravely punish those responsible, my heart goes out with this poor women's suffering all she wanted was to earn a respectably livelihood for her family back at home, curse.
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Oct 09, 2015 07:33pm
Government of India lacks guts to take up any issue strongly with Saudis. The chopping of hand is not just "unacceptable ", should have been condemned as a barbaric act. Similarly, Indian government also failed to strongly condemn the sadistic rape of Nepali maids by a Saudi diplomat in New Delhi. When it comes to Saudi Arabia, Indian Government hides its tail between legs. Highly deplorable and condemnable attitude. If the government cannot defend its citiz name, who,will?
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Oct 09, 2015 07:33pm
@Muhammad Khan
> it is a shame for the nuclear India whose ladies work abroad in the capacity of domestic maids
No work is small. There is nothing to feel shame to be a domestic maid. She is doing work and earning money. But some people feel proud of living on foreign aid.
I am proud of all those people who work & earn instead of begging.
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Oct 09, 2015 07:35pm
Height of Arrogance.This should be Condemned at
All Level.Even, they used the term TCN(Third Class National) for many Countries including Pakistan &
India.
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Oct 09, 2015 07:40pm
@Kamal Pasha What serious step due suggest. Saudi diplomat raped Napaly maid in India and left under diplomatic immunity.
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Oct 09, 2015 07:40pm
@Taimoor Khan
>Ms Swaraj would be better off tweeting her outrage and use words like "unacceptable" for the domestic issues where a man was lynched to death for the suspicion of eating beef.
You and your type of people are full of hate and only know to spread hate.
Ms Swaraj is a Minister of External Affairs and she is doing her job. But you can't understand this as your don't have any foreign minister.
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Oct 09, 2015 07:49pm
Indian government won't do anything, they just don't have the guts, unfortunately.
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Oct 09, 2015 08:01pm
Some spots on the planet have lots of difficulty in joining something called "civilization"?
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Oct 09, 2015 08:16pm
@saurav Tweeter is not an "official" Indian media cell. Its a social media. While she has got foreign portfolio, what is stopping her to express her "outrage" on matters which are closer at home? No Indian leader worth it salt has condemned in clear and uncompromising word, this killing of Muslim man in India. And spare me about the so called "marshal law" non sense. We in Pakistan had and still got most independent thinking media in the world thanks to a dictator.
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Oct 09, 2015 08:19pm
@Indian So what? Is she not Indian? Matters closer to home are not of her concern? Havent seen a single current Indian leader worth his/her salt condemning the killing of that innocent Muslim man in most clear and uncompromising words. Your health minister is saying that the attack wasnt "planned". What is this non sense? Less said about Modi the better.
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Oct 09, 2015 08:28pm
Finally, Indian Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj has something better to do than hurl empty threats at Pakistan.
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Oct 09, 2015 08:31pm
@Muhammad Khan, Mr Preacher, Rome was not built in a day. India is on rising path and not a charity state. People have to work in this country to earn it livelihood.
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Oct 09, 2015 08:39pm
Please do not send your girls of any age to any country including Saudi Arabia to work as maid. Keep them with respect and honor at your home country and explore job opportunities by allocating job quota in such factories and industries, where women could be more productive.
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Oct 09, 2015 08:41pm
@Muhammad Khan There are also plenty of poor Pakistanis working in KSA. We too are a nuclear power!
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Oct 09, 2015 08:44pm
Where is prime minister Modi? Where is his speeches and brotherhood spirit with Middle Eastern countries.
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Oct 09, 2015 08:47pm
@Aub Sometimes our needs make it more important to make money vs personal safety. Needs like Hunger, Education, and healthcare.
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Oct 09, 2015 08:55pm
Arrogance of Saudis noticed on several occasions in several overseas appointments. Another type of spoiling 'Islamic image'in the world.
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Oct 09, 2015 09:03pm
Islam has earned a very bad name due to Saudi brand of extremist Islam and the repeated grave human right violations by Saudis.
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Oct 09, 2015 09:04pm
This is brutality at it's worst. As a Muslim I am shocked and saddened to see the Saudis behaving in this manner and this is not the first time. This land is the birthplace of Islam and our beloved prophet (pbuh) who was sent as mercy to ALL mankind yet this is how it's present day inhabitants treat people. Utterly disgusting.
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Oct 09, 2015 09:07pm
@Muhammad Khan Your disgust for domestic maids shows that you have no dignity of labor.
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Oct 09, 2015 09:12pm
@Muhammad Khan So many comments reserved for you.
Of the 15 yrs in Gulf I have lived I repeat lived with many fellow Pakistani workers. yyur assessment is just hearsay or plain frustration at govt level.
This is the issue very different from the highest govt level policies. Comments should be linked to the topic. If someone robs so eone in Karachi we cannot talk of Balance of Payments and Central Bank policies in such situations.
As an Indian my whole family prayed for Peshawar school attacks. Churches across India and Gurudwaras and Temples prayed for the kids. We did not mention Pakistani kids. They r just kids just like she was a poor maid.
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Oct 09, 2015 09:17pm
Saudis and other Middle East countries are incompetent. They will never be better, so long as the kingdoms continue. There is a need for democratic system.
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Oct 09, 2015 09:26pm
@Taimoor Khan it is quite common in Pakistan for railway, finance minister to talk about foreign policy, foreign minister to talk about internal issues and none doing their own job
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Oct 09, 2015 09:30pm
Hope Saudis Will Do Justice and Take one arm off the employer as they do behead for less serious crime.
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Oct 09, 2015 09:30pm
No money to feed an employee, and have the gall to need a house help...illiterate and ill mannered folks!!
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Oct 09, 2015 09:37pm
Makes me despise lazy and unproductive Saudis even more. They are truly selfish people who rely on others to do all their menial and skilled work. it is time for an Arab Spring uprising and a military coup to expel the greedy royal family. Dispicable family.
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Oct 09, 2015 09:40pm
It has been revealed the Saudi Employer is a Lady.I wonder how can a lady do it with another lady.
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Oct 09, 2015 09:47pm
@Farhan he had diplomatic immunity.
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Oct 09, 2015 10:00pm
@Singh
Mr Singh, it may come as a surprise for you but there are no Pakistani maids in Saudia Arabia or for that matter anywhere else in the world. It is not allowed.
Only a very few traffickers try to smuggle women to Europe declaring them as their wives or children.
Please have your facts right before getting emotional.
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Oct 09, 2015 10:01pm
This is the proof that not all Arabs are Muslim in their hearts.
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Oct 09, 2015 10:15pm
Saudis are a burden on earth. Except for Petrodollars they would have been extincted. Only when the entire humanity refuse to buy oil from them, they will learn to respect humanity.
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Oct 09, 2015 10:19pm
Arabians can never be cultured.
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Oct 09, 2015 10:19pm
Finally, I see Indians and Pakistanis agree on the same thing.
The biggest shame for us was not to take an action against the Saudi diplomat who raped two Nepalese women. More than just that, it showed the true colors of Saudi Arabia. The nation which stones it people for committing even slightest of crimes protected its diplomat for raping not one but two women.
This is a terrible terrible incident. I sincerely hope the Indian government takes some serious steps to stop this inhuman activity in this inhumane country!
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Oct 09, 2015 10:21pm
@Muhammad Khan At least she was working in an honest profession and trying to earn a living by honest means just like millions of Pakistanis do all over the world. Perhaps you have more sympathy for the religious bigots and terrorists. What a pity you exist.
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Oct 09, 2015 10:28pm
@Muhammad Khan .... this is a horrible act. It happens to Pakistanis everyday as well ...If you cant sympathize...May God help you...Nothing to do with India or Pakistan..this is about humanity.
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Oct 09, 2015 10:30pm
very sad and highly punishable act. The involved should be punished heavily.
At the same time India must mend its ways. Swaraj can't tolerate this act. Very well.
But what about the poor person killed by some terrorist Hindus for no crime - just to suppress .They should be hanged. Let us see what punishment is given to them or this case will also go under files like other several such cases after some drama in media, for which India is famous.
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Oct 09, 2015 10:31pm
Saudi Authorities have been chopping off heads of foreign nationals, let's see if they have the same law to chop head off of their own citizen.
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Oct 09, 2015 10:32pm
@Muhammad Khan Better post than the last one...but you still dont get it...Yes we need peace, yes yes yes...But what did this poor woman do to get her hand chopped off?
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Oct 09, 2015 11:21pm
@shazad US-Saudi alliance have destroyed the lives & respect of millions of Muslim. Both are only interested in propping client regimes. American concern for democracy & Saudis for Islam is just eye wash.
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Oct 09, 2015 11:28pm
@Sameer keep electing socialists, communist & others who kick out businesses from India to Arabs, US & Europe.
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Oct 10, 2015 12:05am
@Amin Sorry to refute you. We have Pakistani maid here. Not that I want to belittle her or belittle her profession. Just saying.
Oh yes, she is like family member.
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Oct 10, 2015 12:53am
Indians must pull all the workers from Saudi Arabia. Trust me the Arabs will face the truth then.
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Oct 10, 2015 01:33am
Look this 58 years old Kashturi needs a person to look after her and instead she is forced by the circumstances to leave the country and serve as maid. Some Indians do not get tire to give undue credit to Indian Government just with a statement by an Indian women in a private capacity. If the Indian government was so concern about their old citizens she would have been at home. The Indian Government is spending billions on defence but can,t give relief to the poor.
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Oct 10, 2015 01:55am
@Indian Or Saudi people need to learn to do their own housework, cooking and such, like most of the rest of the world.
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Oct 10, 2015 02:04am
Indian and Pakistanis and south Asian workers are treated worse than cattle by the oil rich Gulf states. It's shameful. As a Pakistani I find my own government shamefully in awe of Arabs as they throw their petro dollars at us and keep quite of their excesses against our workers who have built their Malls and 5 star artificial kingdoms.
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Oct 10, 2015 02:04am
Worst than Animals !
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Oct 10, 2015 03:57am
Equal rights in Islam
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Oct 10, 2015 07:58am
Saudi Arabia is worst in taking care of their maids. India should stop immediately to supply maids to any of the country in the world. It is a very shame to our nation - a so called super power that is India. Mr. Modi should interfere . I was in Saudi Arabia about 21 years and many time access to visit my Sponsor house as a Manager to his firm and I have witnessed many ill treatment incident towards maids but could not react due to my nationality- Indian. though I am very busy today, I have to comment as a human being. Let Lord give piece to this Maids work start in Saudi House very early morning. They (maid) have to wash many kids, get ready for school, wash all big house, wash cloth of 10 to 15 members. Madam(saudi man wife) is waking up very late and sitting the sofa watching the TV. Most of the houses salaries are not being paid full or in time. They never treat maid servant as human being.
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Oct 10, 2015 08:23am
The man who has cut the arm of this poor maid, should be served the justice by chopping his right arm. It also serves a reminder to all the immigrant who go there to work that there is no due process of law under the barbaric government that exist. I as a westerner have never hear US citizen being treated like that and if anyone attempts that my Government will quickly intervene to protect its citizen. I hope that this maid gets to go home soon and perpetrator of this heinous crime pay for the crime through his arm and through his wallet.
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Oct 10, 2015 08:50am
@Taimoor Khan
All condemned this except Modi. Indians are angry about this incident too.
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Oct 10, 2015 11:26am
@Dr.Arshad : But the problem is our over population. We have not created enough jobs for this huge population in last 50 years so people would always go to others countries for earnings.
Domestic workers like ladies and low class workers are easy target.
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Oct 10, 2015 11:54am
Both India and Pakistan should now declare Saudi Arabia as unsafe for their labours.
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Oct 10, 2015 02:20pm
@Akki . It's only the Indian government who allow the murder and rape of innocent Kashmiris. Sawaraj should make a few comments on that to show the indian government got guts or are they conspirators themselves???
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Oct 10, 2015 02:27pm
@Kashmiri she is the foreign minister.. Not the home minister!
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Oct 10, 2015 03:02pm
I am ashamed to read the comments on Dawn as well as Facebook that Pakistanis and Indians are hurling against each other. This act of atrocity was conducted by a Saudi woman and we should all be condemning that rather than start fighting with each other. Saudi Arabians are undoubtedly the worst people on the face of this earth.
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Oct 10, 2015 03:24pm
@Kashmiri Sir, Sushma swaraj is Foreign Minister, which takes care of external affairs. Rajnath singh is head of Ministry of Home & affairs. He takes care of all internal matters, he has condoned such incident.
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Oct 10, 2015 04:13pm
@MATHU How much you donate from your paycheck to help the needy? Giving advise is easy my friend, very easy.
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Oct 11, 2015 12:53am
To all
Please don't make this a political football. This discussion is about human tragedy, atrocity, humanity and a call for justice, let's keep it that. What we need is to condemn this butchery, seek an international censure of Saudi Labor laws, their Kangroo Court that keeps these people out of prison. I guarantee you that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated at City, State or Federal level in US unless someone hides behind Diplomatic immunity.
Folk's lets all pray for the victims well being and for savage who did this should never be able to walk out of prison as a free man or woman.
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Oct 11, 2015 03:29am
The only people who go to Saudi are people who are desperate to make a living. Which well to do person will ever want to visit Saudi Arabia for a holiday or site seeing? Doesn't that say everything we need to know about this country?
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Oct 11, 2015 04:21am
It is shameful that Indians and Pakistanis are attacking each other for a heinous crime once again committed by a Saudi citizen. The Saudi citizens will unlikely face appropriate judgement by their government. After all KSA has the support of all the western democracies both politically and militarily and they don't give a hoot to third world countries.
Please support the victims of brutality and rape.
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Oct 11, 2015 06:47am
@Rome cruser Arab News is reporting this story quite differently, saying she hurt her hand during a fall.
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Oct 11, 2015 10:29am
@Mohan Kishore D I agree with you 100% sir.You really have to live or work to figure out their mindset, the exploitation, the raw cruelty, callousness, how they look at life of other human beings. They not only think but believe anything can be bought and they can make people shut their mouth with money. Indian embassy should raise hell and ask for a hefty compensation for the poor lady but the sad part is too many people have their livelihood in Suadi Arabia in both India(and Pakistan). They can kick all Indians out without blinking their eyes. Really feel extremley sorry for the lady. May God give her enough courage to cope with this lifetime tragedy.
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Oct 11, 2015 10:35am
@Prateek No their price fly F-15, Torandos and take long vacation in France and Spain, put themselves from one boredom to next.. while us (you and me and others working class) work our tail off.. all our lives
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Oct 11, 2015 10:37am
@Sachin Indian This is their reality..cutting hand of a poor lady and don't feel a thing about it...
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Oct 11, 2015 10:45am
@Arvind Ajimal Agree with you 100%.
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Oct 11, 2015 10:45am
Heinous crime! FYI - maids in Saudi from non-arab/non-muslim countries only i.e. from Philippines, Srilanka, India (mostly south indi) and Nepal (I dont know if as a policy or what?); nurses in saudi also from outside of muslim countries but reason maybe - fully trained and lots available; Pak/Arab women in saudi as airlines staff only!
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Oct 11, 2015 11:29am
@Raja Parekh I am with you on that...but as you know we (both nations if I may say so) are still very poor.. and our priorities are somewhere else. You, me and others the lucky ones who had better opportunities can say but not milions of people like this poor lady who has many mouths to feed...it is almost impossible to bring back several million people who keep our counrty floating( more so for Pakistan).. I can hope and pray it happens in our life time and we raise our heads with pride...
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Oct 11, 2015 11:34am
@illawarrior And the arm severed ? By falling...what a sick joke?
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Oct 11, 2015 12:13pm
126 comments and still counting. So glad Dawn has used this format to enable readers to voice their concerns. There are no words to describe this barbaric behavior.
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Oct 11, 2015 12:33pm
@Muhammad Khan - It is these ladies who migrate abroad. India does not want its women or men to go out as labourers or maids. We have not signed any labour agreement with KSA. So dont act smart.
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Oct 11, 2015 01:47pm
@Dr.Arshad - Your idea is good. But just think why our people(INDIA & PAK) go to arab countries and work there... Because our countries does not have enough jobs and vacancies. And gulf money is the major source of income for India and Pak.
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Oct 11, 2015 02:39pm
@ordinary citizen, both the countries record in terms of treating minorities is not enviable. Taunting other for perceived faults while condoning the excesses committed by one own's country is the norm to the point of being sickening.
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Oct 11, 2015 05:55pm
@Mohan Kishore D I second you Mohan
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Oct 11, 2015 06:43pm
@Sachin Indian for correction pakistan doesnt send any woman in GCC for domestic labour.Pakistan has no such accord with KSA.even Bangladesh doesnt send its woman.its only india that looks for easy remittance this way ..and see its cost.btw there is another side of the coin that is published in GULF newspapers which says maid tried to escape from the ist floor of house and fell on to the power generator canopy. In any case situation for domestic labour anywhere in the world isnt good,including US where an indian diplomat was strip searched for similar crimes against her domestic labour.
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Oct 11, 2015 06:48pm
@Prateek if saudis are living in stone age , who is asking indian govt to push its populace out of shining india to a stone age. Please have some guts to rally in india to force indian govt to bring back all domestic labour from GCC
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Oct 11, 2015 07:25pm
Shameful act indeed and no respect at all for those who are not Arabs. Actually they forgot that one day there will be justice and that DAY is coming very soon. INSHALLA
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Oct 11, 2015 07:40pm
No matter what we say, Saudi government listen to no one. Unless of course there is a threat to thier monarchy.
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Oct 11, 2015 07:45pm
@Kamal Pasha At least they have minimal courage to lodge protest, Pakistani government is like a sitting duck before saudis, They can never afford say any ill against them. A pity!
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Oct 11, 2015 08:41pm
These incidents will continue until and unless the countries imposed complete ban on women employment in foreign countries without the presence of a male member of her family where she works because they remain vulnerable to mistreatment and harassment. Some women even go for prostitution under the cover of jobs. The states should look after their people and should not allow women to work as maid in other country. This all is not about Kasthuri Munirathinam, India or KSA but for the protection of women all over the world.
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Oct 11, 2015 09:25pm
@Kashmiri
You are not reading News well my dear. Whole Indian Political circle has criticised that event and Local Govt taking every step to prevent and provide help to family and punish the culprits. I can not imagine cutting some one's both hands and doing Namaz five times a day. I think you have too much Venom in your heart since you belong to Kashmir and Muslim.
-Alam
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Oct 11, 2015 10:17pm
Saudis are most arrogant, proud, characterless. They consider weallth and american support gives them liberty for any crime.
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Oct 12, 2015 07:43am
Folk's has anyone heard of any arrest(s) regarding the horrendous crime. We as humans should all send out a message to Saudi Government that as citizens of the world will not stay quite until Justice is served. I on my part will send out emails to the, Embassy and Consulate and give them my piece of mind. We should stand shoulder to shoulder with Kashturi during her ordeal.
I am also starting to hear about lack of labor agreement with India. Let me spell out for them. No one needs an agreement for common sense humanity and courtesy (maybe Saudis do).
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