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KARACHI: The copy of the Computerised National Identity Card (CNIC) of Tashfeen Malik, which surfaced in international publications and local social media, has been found to be authentic, according to the National Database and Registration Authority (Nadra) verification service.
The 27-year-old woman and her US-born husband Syed Rizwan Farook are the main suspects in the shooting of 14 people in San Bernardino, California, last week. Both were killed.
Read: Suspects Syed Farook, Tashfeen Malik kill 14 in California shooting: authorities
Speculation arose on social media, questioning the authenticity of Tashfeen Malik's CNIC copy and claiming the details were part of a larger conspiracy.
But a quick message to one of Nadra's verification services show that the CNIC mentioned in the international reports was in fact registered in the name of one Tafsheen Malik daughter of Gulzar Ahmed Malik.
US authorities had identified Tashfeen as a Pakistani who arrived there last year on a special visa for fiancés of US citizens as one of the California shooters. Another US official said Malik had pledged allegiance to chief of the militant Islamic State group, al-Baghdadi, in a posting on Facebook under an account that used a different name
Also read: Act of individual does not represent a country or religion, says Nisar
Tashfeen's relatives say she and her father seemed to have abandoned the family's moderate Islam and became more radicalised during years they spent in Saudi Arabia.
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Dec 08, 2015 01:07pm
So? she was a US citizen at the time of this event. Rather US should learn to manage the inflow from other countries. She lived most of her life in Saudia, why on earth is Pakistan being highlighted? as if she arrived from their a day before the attack? US up to its dirty games again....
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Dec 08, 2015 01:14pm
disgusting.
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Dec 08, 2015 01:14pm
Lot of sites on Internet claim San Bernardino a false flag operation with logical proves.
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Dec 08, 2015 01:26pm
CNIC card number may be correct as its easy to obtain from passport or other places but surely the card is fake. This font is never user and photo is never pasted rather printed. and same goes for the signature place.
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Dec 08, 2015 01:28pm
what is right or wrong but we had information through Dr Shaid Masood program that once the incident took place in US the media reported first that there were three mans who were shooting at public, but latter they changed the report and stated they were one man and woman, whereas we haven't seen anything in visual proof. The world rely whatever they produce in front of the world, followed by US candidate statement they shouldn't allow Muslims to enter US, which indicate something else.
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Dec 08, 2015 01:32pm
Ok why people are disgusted. We cant make a nation of 190 million responsible for an act few weak individual.
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Dec 08, 2015 01:35pm
NADRA suddenly sprung like a live wire ......... and proved she is from Pakistan.
on the other hand, NADRA could not verify thumb impressions for voters, even in 3 years....
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Dec 08, 2015 01:45pm
What we know is what we are being told by the US agencies. You cannot doubt the capabilities of their machinating everything that they want to be believed. Otherwise, there is no proof of the housewife getting training in operating to precision, the sophisticated arms and ammunition that they discovered from their residence. Even, her allegiance to Al Baghdadi was only a day old and in a fake name.
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Dec 08, 2015 01:51pm
@AV Houston Cos 190 bn strong people cannot control a few weak individual
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Dec 08, 2015 02:00pm
How does one become "radicalized" while visiting SA? I have been living there for last 25 years!!
Makes me laugh.
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Dec 08, 2015 02:05pm
Strange only for me that even the pics of CNIC shown above seem to be photoshopped. The font and brightness of the ser "Name" does not match with the original name written on the ID Card. same goes for each and every entry. Also font of "shanakhti no" and the no mentioned is different. Not to mention the overwriting of CNIC No on the "card no"... strange.. Neva seen such a poorly made CNIC before
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Dec 08, 2015 02:07pm
Who said Nadra is not performing. Nadra is outstanding. At least in this type of matters.
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Dec 08, 2015 02:08pm
In Pakistani original CNIC, the flag overlaps the right edge of the picture. This is a doctored image.
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Dec 08, 2015 02:13pm
the picture shown of identity card is very suspicious ...
the fonts color miss match and aren't aligned ... i think there isn't any english pasted on standard nadra card
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Dec 08, 2015 02:15pm
urdu on thia id card also seems to be translated via machine translator
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Dec 08, 2015 02:20pm
The font doesn't match in the left one.
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Dec 08, 2015 02:20pm
@yawar
I never had any family member with such a suspicious looking ID card. The photos on computerized ID cards are not taken in the paper format and then put on the card by scanning or pasting it. The Signatures are also not pasted on the card too. I never known to this that Nadra ever issued such "computerized" ID cards.
If any one here has got such ID card, then please post some picture.
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Dec 08, 2015 02:31pm
all these events seem to be converging as a propoganda against Pakistan ... FIA should promptly take action against the false document
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Dec 08, 2015 02:35pm
The details might be correct but the picture circulating on social media of the CNIC is a photoshopped for sure? Where's the date of issue? Fonts do not match as that of the ones we get on the standard CNIC . Someone just got the correct details and photoshopped it
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Dec 08, 2015 02:43pm
@Ajamal It won't make you laugh if you'll mentally so weak that you buy everything CNN has to offer.
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Dec 08, 2015 02:53pm
They are still suspects and something is fishy here.
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Dec 08, 2015 02:54pm
It is U.S plot, this is enough to say and believe it is fake. The expiry date is visible, but where is the date of issue? Keep making the world U.S (unsustainable) "great" American government.
One wonders how NADRA has issued the CNIC with different FONT type to capture details of an individual.
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Dec 08, 2015 02:54pm
The above picture is an image sticked taken by a photographer which latter is put on the NIC, the white line on on Tasfeens's picture's right side prove that whereas Nadra always shoot a picture by them self which then appears on the NIC and it never have a white line on any side of the picture
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Dec 08, 2015 03:01pm
Paris attack didnot motivate enough , US thought one should be here as well .
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Dec 08, 2015 03:11pm
Please don't trust whatever they projected, because there are reports which say that three white man who were shooting on public, later they changed the report.
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Dec 08, 2015 03:13pm
Thank you for publishing this and weakening all these resounding conspiracy theories that are popping up all over the Muslim world, Pakistan being at the helm of it of course.
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Dec 08, 2015 03:26pm
I dont understand teh issue. She was a Pakistani so she will have an ID card. What is the problem here?
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Dec 08, 2015 03:35pm
So, what does it prove; All Pakistanis are terrorists? Her husband was a born US citizen; So, can we say all Americans are terrorists?
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Dec 08, 2015 03:38pm
NADRA is useless, since they couldn't even get thumb verification during election.
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Dec 08, 2015 03:39pm
i don't understand why we are so much concern about her , she is the us citizen as well. these type problems/issues common in US. we recently see many events. let them investigate. We are not responsible of anyone act. We are very peaceful and loving nation.
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Dec 08, 2015 03:49pm
@Ali And they found a Pakistani woman and killed her to proove their point. Looks like Trump is behind this.
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Dec 08, 2015 03:57pm
No need to over exaggerate , we know we have people with extremist minds and there are nurseries of extremism existing blatantly even in our capital.If its Tashfeen or else, let it be.Who ever the terrorist or killer must be brought to justice and there is no need to worry if shes from Pakistan, terrorists have no religion or country , they are terrorists with a blind ideology .An individuals act never represent a whole nation, just try to disassociate yourself from this MINDSET in reality and there is no question on you for sure..
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Dec 08, 2015 04:05pm
@Inqelab Zindabad
@AV Houston Cos 190 bn strong people cannot control a few weak individual
REPLY seriously and is it 190 billion
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Dec 08, 2015 04:17pm
Accepting truth is better than wasting time in refuting convincing charges. Yes she was Pakistani, so what? No part of the world is without good and bad people and so in Pakistan, India and America. We are in making. We have progressed and are progressing. These hiccups shall also be overcome in future, inshallah.
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Dec 08, 2015 04:23pm
@Inqelab Zindabad Wrong ... How can you say that? Could millions of Americans control or prevent Bush from invading Iraq, Afghanistan? Could Americans control the shootings done by their own people? If you google, you would find many such incidents where their own "English People" were involved.
In UK, a few years back "killings" by black teenagers were a "normal thing" on petty issues.
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Dec 08, 2015 04:31pm
The CNIC number may be accurate but can Dawn confirm that picture shown of the ID Card is not doctored ?
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Dec 08, 2015 04:48pm
Airplane Mode does not let you send a text message :D
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Dec 08, 2015 04:56pm
why is the date it was made not there???
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Dec 08, 2015 05:09pm
It was the Individual act cant understand the purpose of explaination
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Dec 08, 2015 06:36pm
hahaa...nice try folks...an innocent question? why the fields are different in colors as answering fields are BOLD while questioning fields are dim? Why there is no ISSUANCE DATE??? i have never seen any CNIC without it.. Lets assume it was made 10 years back than all the fields should be dimmed not only the questioning side. Final question, if the data on CNIC is printing from the database of NADRA than why these two differ?? The data of birth NADRA record confirms her age as 29 but the US MEDIA showing driver's license and SS CARD which mentioned she was 27 years. if NADRA record is correct then passport should have her actual d.o.b. which should be transferred to US driving license and Social security card. No man, I don't buy this story it has enough flaws. However, I appreciate the efforts made by photoshop.
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Dec 08, 2015 06:41pm
@manal : She was not US citizen yet. It is long process to be US citizen.
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Dec 08, 2015 06:41pm
delusional !!
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Dec 08, 2015 07:03pm
Positive teachings/thinking and speaches full of hate can effect different people in different ways. So, it is very important that our authorities monitors what is being delivered and said in mosques and religious gatherings. A person does not get mentally washed in a year or so. It is the constant contact with the negative people that influnce innocent minds.
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Dec 08, 2015 07:14pm
Hmm....date of expiry is there, but not date of issue......interesting! usually CNICs are valid for 10 years....which means this was issued in 2012 when the person was 26 years of age.....
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Dec 08, 2015 07:35pm
@manal She was not a US citizen. She was a Pakistani citizen.
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Dec 08, 2015 07:46pm
@mhw She wasnt a US citizen. She had a temporary green card on pakistani passport.
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Dec 08, 2015 08:22pm
@manal She was not a U.S citizen. She was only in U.S for 2 years. You need to be in U.S for 5 years in green card before you can get citizenship.
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Dec 08, 2015 09:44pm
One other thing people may want to consider... It was the husband who had this planned all along and then went looking for a 'like minded' wife.
In a 'normal' situation one spouse would be able to talk sense into the other, but with both pre-radicalized, this attack was only a matter of time.
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Dec 08, 2015 09:54pm
@Manal She wasn't not yet a U.S citizen. Also, this cnic copy is from Nadra's system, before it's printed on the card. It is not the actual cnic card but a screen shot from the computer. If you tell some one at nadra to email you a screen shot of your cnic it will look like this. I have my cnic screen shot and it looks like it.
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Dec 08, 2015 09:55pm
@UDBarry Not always. My card was issued for 13 years.
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Dec 08, 2015 10:43pm
@Thomas if married with US citizen, can apply after 3 years to get US citizenship
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Dec 08, 2015 11:18pm
Yes this card doesn't seem fake
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Dec 08, 2015 11:39pm
You all need some knowledge gaining to do. All of you think our people can't do that or media is lying. This is real. just look at pakistani local news. It's full of evil stuff going on around the country.
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Dec 09, 2015 12:49am
No doubt the picture can be photo shopped but the fact that the ID card number is returned by verification service the name of the person to which it was issued indeed looks like it was her CNIC..also you cannot compare the photos to finger prints as finger prints are more prone to external factors like temperature and humidity which can cause the original finger prints to become weak over period of time unless protected to preserver it..photos on the other hand are much easier to preserve..BTW I'm just giving my counter argument here to the majority of the arguments seen just want a fair investigation on this case!!!
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Dec 09, 2015 12:49am
Are u kidding me! look at date of birth look at signature its fake for sure
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Dec 09, 2015 01:48am
Never mind these trivial matters about CNIC. Find out who was behind it, if any one from Pakistan, so that the world would know the real story.
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Dec 09, 2015 02:06am
The article did not mention why did people criticized the CNIC. Apparently due to unofficial fonts used.
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Dec 09, 2015 02:10am
@manal
she studied in pakistan from 2007 to 2012
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Dec 09, 2015 02:11am
she studied in pakistan from 2007 to 2012
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Dec 09, 2015 03:53am
@Rashid
I have seen initial live CNN report of the incident and eye witness accounts of at least two eye witnesses reported by CBS and a local NBC affiliate saying there were three tall white men wearing black military fatigues who did the shooting.
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Dec 09, 2015 05:35am
@noon Also there is no date of issue on the card.
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Dec 09, 2015 06:43am
@Ali : Look up M.r AQziz's }patterns and narratives" for proof!
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Dec 10, 2015 01:01pm
@Ali
This news appeared very soon after the shooting and it contains what was reported in the initial 911 calls. The 3 white males they are referring to were the 3 cops who showed up within minutes after the shooting. Arriving so soon at the crime scene, dressed in the same tactical gear as the assailants, they looked suspicious to whoever made that 911 call.
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Dec 10, 2015 02:21pm
So when are we getting some updates on the husband who seems to be getting no coverage at all !
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Dec 11, 2015 03:41pm
Here at CNIC issuance date is not mentioned?
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