Deadlock persists as third round of talks yields no result
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ISLAMABAD: After the third round of talks between the PTI and government delegations conclude on Saturday, Shah Mehmood Qureshi proposed Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif should resign for a period of 30 days for an independent probe into alleged poll rigging.
Separately PTI Chairman Imran Khan persisted in his demand for the resignation of the prime minister and told his supporters today that the sit-ins will continue across the country till the time this demand is met.
Speaking to media representatives, Qureshi said that the prime minister should step down for a time period required for a judicial commission to probe into rigging allegations for the 2013 general elections.
Also read: Zardari urges dialogue, vows to uphold democracy
The PTI leader said a parliamentary committee has been formed for electoral reforms and that it has expressed willingness to participate.
He said that there was a difference of opinion between the government and PTI negotiating teams, in that the government believes the 2013 general elections were free, fair and transparent, while PTI’s stance is not hidden from anyone.
However, the government team has proposed to form a judicial commission comprises of SC judges to probe into allegations of rigging in last year’s polls. “We have accepted the proposal subject to certain conditions, which includes resignation of PM Sharif to keep the environment uninfluenced,” he said.
He claimed that democracy will not be derailed through his party’s demands. “We haven’t talked about dissolution of assemblies or formation of a national government.”
In a bid to muster political capital against the protests, Nawaz Sharif has turned to his long term rival Zadari, the husband of slain prime minister Benazir Bhutto and the political supremo of the opposition Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP).
Zadari flew in from Dubai on Friday evening and held talks with Sharif in Lahore earlier in the day.
Lunch in Raiwind: 'Zardari fully supports PM Nawaz'
Meanwhile, Ahsan Iqbal, who is a member of government’s negotiating team, told the media that resignation of PM Sharif was not on the cards. He said that his party was ready to resolve the issue according to the law and constitution but not to anyone’s stubbornness.
Iqbal said the Parliament and provincial assemblies have passed unanimous resolutions rejecting the politics of agitation and demands of the PM’s resignations and dissolution of assemblies.
“The lawyers across the country have also shown unity with political forces and rejected PTI and PAT’s unconstitutional demands,” he added.
Cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan and Canada-based cleric Tahirul Qadri have led thousands of supporters demonstrating outside the Parliament this week calling for Prime Minister Sharif to go.
Khan insists the May 2013 general election, which swept Sharif to power in a landslide, was rigged and therefore the prime minister should step down.
Qadri and Khan's protest movements are not formally allied and have different goals, beyond toppling the government. But their combined pressure – and numbers – has given extra heft to the rallies.
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Aug 23, 2014 09:23pm
Lets try to live with Dhurna. Let them sit for 4 years. Let the Prime Minister say life is back to normal. Less media coverage. Imran be sensible, what you are doing is not good for Pakistan.
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Aug 23, 2014 09:24pm
I can really say with confidence that Imran khan had a head injury when he fell from that stand. No sane person can behave like this
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Aug 23, 2014 09:34pm
we pakistanis are all corrupt we have lost our morals our govt are corrupt...by the way as soon as you arrive at islamabad airport the corruption starts there....you have to pay them there.IK he dosent need money hes doing it for us wake up smell the coffee
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Aug 23, 2014 09:38pm
If every loser brings ten thousand people and siege Islamabad to meet his demand for re-election, then there will general elections every six months in Pakistan. And every elected PM will be asked to resign to conduct inquiry on rigging allegations. Imran Khan has no clue what precedent he wants to set. He speaks what Shah Mahmood Qureshi or Sheikh Rasheed whisper in his ears. He has proved himself most immature leader of the country.
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Aug 23, 2014 09:40pm
Imran is like a 4yrs. old kid. He does not know when his childish whims and stubbornness is positive and when it will have bad results. Is this the way he is going to run the country, if he comes to power by others mistakes.
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Aug 23, 2014 09:46pm
IK, Qurashi, please take your fans and go home. Your fans are making everybody nervous employees and citizens alike in Islamabad.
Both of you represent people living the DHS areas of the Pakistan and stop fooling people living in slums and other areas.
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Aug 23, 2014 09:48pm
Co'mon IK; dont act like childish.
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Aug 23, 2014 09:52pm
By now we are pretty clear about PML N,its methodology of governance if you call it that and its totally unprincipled approach to popular public sentiment.In nutshell they care two hoots.People of Pakistan must understand that and ensure that they do not blink now.
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Aug 23, 2014 09:52pm
Why should an elected PM step down? These guys are behaving like they are playing some children game. Am armature, medium intelligence, stubborn and impatient for position man is wielding too much totally undeserved power. So many (thank God not too many) people just cannot see that and are supporting him. God help Pakistan.
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Aug 23, 2014 09:54pm
He is child - please do not expect sober and mature behavior from him.
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Aug 23, 2014 09:57pm
Where is the Army and Judiciary in Pakistan when a man with a mob of some 50,000 has taken government of Pakistan as hostage. If mob is the greatest power, then what will stop another man to impose his will on 180 million Pakistan if the only power he needs is a mob possibly, 100,000.
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Aug 23, 2014 09:57pm
@muhammad Not childish, this your and your children's future.
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Aug 23, 2014 09:57pm
@muhammad IK behavior is not childish but very mature. If Nawaz has the mandate of the public he should register the FIR and agree to referendum, forget about recount as that will destroy his talkative Saad Rafique
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Aug 23, 2014 09:59pm
IK yes you are a national cricket hero, yes you have done admirable job in charity but you cannot extract whole of Pakistan as a price. Please do not destroy the fragile democracy. The process has just started. You may be an angel but you cannot guarantee fair play for ever. Only an institutional system can and that is democracy. You are already surrounded and specially supported by unsavory individuals. Look around you and tell us how are they better than the incumbent ones?
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Aug 23, 2014 10:03pm
IK I was your supporter but I could no longer digest your unreasonable demands and behavior. Surely I am not the only one abandoning you. Now the emotions are high. You will be shocked when you take stock of things and realize how much have you lost.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:04pm
@Hasnain Haque My children's future in IK hands. NO WAY
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Aug 23, 2014 10:10pm
Must you have something for face saving? Could you not have retreated in a dignified manner? You know you have lost. No face saving is going to redeem the losses. Go home and lick your wounds. You have killed a good movement, a wonderful idea. I am an average citizen and there are millions like me who lost something due to your follies.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:14pm
It's imran's ego which is important then country. Dharna is thinning day by day so imran's respect in public. Imran could have said I can bear this pm for more two months for my country's biggest interest. If commission finds pmln guilty imran would be on his peak. But its seems imran has stopped listening to his loyals instead he is listening to those who have nothing on stack
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Aug 23, 2014 10:14pm
Why and how there can be discussion to come to an amicable solution between Imran and Nawaz when the two are nothing less than poles apart? Imran wants PM Nawaz resignation and PM says come what may I am tendering resignation. One shall have to accommodate the other otherwise if not then I say with full conviction and confidence that the riddle will not solved till dooms day what to talk of this century. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Kuwait / zaidifirmerdiplomat@hotmail.com
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Aug 23, 2014 10:15pm
How about PM resigning for 5 minutes? Would that satisfy you Master Imran?
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Aug 23, 2014 10:16pm
A man who cannot budge a miniscule of mm, imagine what can he do. It can work both ways, for you or against you. Imagine if you have to live with a man who cannot be convinced, no matter what, how would you feel? I just shudder to think. Come on IK, don't get so frustrated so as to close all avenues.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:16pm
@Hasnain Haque sorry sir its not we have seen his stupidity as a politician we can't even imagine him our pm. People are dying in kpk and dharna has endless dances
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Aug 23, 2014 10:17pm
This is as insane as it possibly can be! Tens of thousands cannot overthrow a government that is leading millions of Pakistanis. If that was the case, then people can keep demanding a change in government every few months, if they don't like the way they are being governed! This is not a national "outcry" - While I am not a fan of Nawaz Sharif - I think the route that Imran Khan has taken is childish and if his demand is given any importance, it will destabilize our country even further.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:18pm
IK you made the point, that you are a hopeless, useless, failed politician! (correction Politician to be)!
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Aug 23, 2014 10:18pm
NS should not step down. IK is blackmailing and should never yield to such tectics. That's a bad precedence for the future PMs too. Any one can bring people, sit in and bring down the govt. IK seems to be stuborn and unyielding. PAT, who cares?
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Aug 23, 2014 10:20pm
If IK demands resignation of NS why can't NS demand resignation of IK? After all NS got more votes than IK. Leaders are exploiting 24x7 TV coverage of the drama. India had Arvind Kejriwal and luckily he lost his deposit. Does democracy give licence for leaders to inflict suffering on hapless citizens, licence to desert their constitutional duties as CM and Ministers. Don't they feel the terrible pain being suffered by IDPs and those widowed and orphaned by terrorists of various kinds?
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Aug 23, 2014 10:21pm
I wish Sharif had the moral courage to face his opponents and thus resign his post for thirty days and prove that he was right and no rigging was done in the last election. But sometime moral courage can be a suicide. And that what it is, and he knows that.
And Imran Khan, if not now. then never again. This is the last chance to derail the fake democracy and bring in the REAL one.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:22pm
Instead resignation, Nawaz Sharif can go on a leave of 30 days. I am not a fan of Imran khan but to solve the impasse, this could be an option.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:22pm
After reading these remarks i am confirmed that IK is wasting his time with these slave mentality public of Pakistan they only know how to be ruled by masters and they can only sit in drawing rooms and marriage halls and crib against the system they do not have what it takes to stand up for their rights and snatch them from these so called thekeydars of democracy.For whom democracy means come eat pilferage and go and then the other comes and does the same 5 years PPP then NS and back to PPP again
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Aug 23, 2014 10:22pm
It's better that the PM should go on a long leave and let a comision investigate in his absence as it is according to the constitution. No body can doubt IK's honesty. So better both sides show flexibility.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:24pm
If real real democracy could be achieved through your movement in 30 years, I would settle for that. We have spent 66 years in wilderness and impatience (mostly on part of generals) was a major cause for that. For nations there are no quick fixes. Processes and institutions have to be protected and nurtured like fragile plants. IK you ought to know that.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:30pm
The very positive thing i like is they have agreed on all points including judicial commission/ electoral reforms etc etc. This actually is a very very positive news for Pakistan & for PTI as well. Hope they come up to some terms for that resignation issue.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:30pm
@MHZ You may be correct. While in hospital after that fall he said in front of cameras that
he has an inner feeling and he was positive that he will win by majority. It was days before voting So it was a big shock to the extent of insanity when he lost.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:33pm
@M J Syed u cannot understand the situation please donot say that IK has unreasonable demand. donot you see that the leave of PM untill the recounting or whatsoever they asking about electoral reform will give this country the copacetic and honest leaders . donot you think that now all the corrupt, cheatrs, and looters get corporated and trying to understimate IK's demand. donot you think its the frst time when opposition is strong and no muk maka do want shareef's and zardari's turn by turn. we have no better option then IK. love u IK.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:34pm
I can not understand why Imran Khan is bad guy here, people should open eyes and see , 14 people got killed, thousands got arrested and IG Islamabad got replaced, This is not Democracy it is Kind of Monarchy, awake up its time!
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Aug 23, 2014 10:37pm
i will vote in comming elections for the frst time ... i am very happy that khan is there. IK you are a blessing...
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Aug 23, 2014 10:38pm
@Saima Why every loser in British/US or for that matter Indian election come out on street and claim that election is rigged. Because there are systems in place to make sure that electoral process is not manipulated by anyone who is willing to do wrong. If thats not the case, then there will be rule of "might is right". No politically educated person can go against the demand of reviewing the result of the election by independent commision.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:39pm
@ash_insafians
Well said.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:39pm
the best interest of the beloved country Pakistan, no Pakistani with a relational mind will be in favour of spreading such chaos in the country in a time when the country needs stability and strong economical power. So it is best that these kind of activities should reach to their logical climax as soon as possible.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:54pm
There can't be a compromise between these two opposite forces. One must go for the other to prevail.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:58pm
@sajid
Admitting we are all corrupt is a good way to start.
Question is if our so called democracy ke rakhwalay have the guts to admit that.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:59pm
IK has joined hands with TUQ for it increases the numbers in protest. He has accepted many people from the same rotten pool. He is supported by Chaudhries whose credentials are a shining star in Pakistani politics. All these are practical compromises. Someone please tell me, where is that purest than pure Imran Khan? My fellow Pakistanis there is no individual who will always be yours. It is only the institution of democracy. Hold on to it, even if it is not perfect. In time this will improve whereas individuals will deteriorate.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:10pm
No question of premier's resignation even for one second.Nawaz Sharif is elected prime minister with clear majority. No unconstitutional and illegal demands will be met.Please start routine business ,Let them demonstrate and dharna continue.They will not understand logic and sense.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:11pm
They say, it was the French Queen (Maria Antonate), which brought the French Revolution, and not the French People. It is said that root cause was this sense of disgust to the conditions of the ordinary people, and the Lavish Royal Life Stye of the french queen. Over 70 favorite dishes of the elites of Pakistan, helicopter landing, and on the other end, thousands protesting at the steps of Pakistani Houses of Powers, for justice.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:14pm
I am positive if imran and pm sit together face to face and talk ,everything could be solved.there are many middle man.too many cooks spoil the broth .imran in the past behave great but recently he is trying western democracy in Pakistan.which is infect hurting Pakistan and him too.I am baffled how can a man started to hurt Pakistan for only one person that is pm,whereas when his mother died he made a charity hospital.even though imran isn't morally and character wise sound but now he is a leader.he should be sensible.I fail to understand what will he get from all this.damaging Pakistan so much that even Taliban were unable to do that.please anybody should give him sense.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:17pm
@M J Syed i think the point of the whole argument they are making is that he was not fairly elected. And any remotely fair investigation should be done without him at the helm as he is the indirect head of all government departments.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:23pm
A black slave called fredrick douglas said...power concedes nothing without a demand...without a struggle...
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Aug 23, 2014 11:23pm
@Saima
Yes. People, protest all over the civilized democratic societies, every day for something, as their basic democratic right. Even one person should be able to protest with his banners and sign, in fronts of houses of powers. Now, on the other hand look at Zardari - Nawaz lunch menu, how many Pakistanis have such lunches. It must be on TV, people should think about it.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:28pm
If something bad happen, we will see more worsen government. Mind it! Yes! someone rightly said here and this is being said widely everyday, just gather some thousand ppl and change the government after every six-month. This will lead to the disastrous Pakistan. Can Pakistan/Pakistani afford morally or financially (billions of rupees). Who will respect Pak Govt / Pakistani especially those working outsides with several nationalities?? Do we want to push our nation towards "dependence", Independence instead.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:30pm
When govt has agreed to give PTI full authority to write exact terms of reference for judicial commission and appoint their own heads of NAB FIA and NADRA and decision must come in 30 days.Then why are they insisting for NS to resign .What a stubborn attitude by PTI.The logic of influence on judicial commission is highly illogical as Imran Khan has already announced to accept the judicial commission in presence of NS as PM.Only difference now is that it is late by some days.How will NS influence decision when all heads of investigation bodies will be appointed by PTI.If he resigns for 30 days and his cabinet remains intact what benefit will it bring to the investigation process .PTI has voters and people are watching its attitude all over the country .How will they trust a party which is talking of personal agenda rather than national interest.I think Imran Khan wants govt to use force and some people are killed so that he can get some exit out of the mess he has created for himself.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:31pm
@M J Syed : Are you aware that a Prime Minister is only appointed or removed by a majority vote in Parliament. Does the constitution and laws of Pakistan allow any citizen of Pakistan to demand resignation of a Prime Minister through marches, protests, sit-ins, shouting slogans, civil disobedience and stop paying taxes?
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Aug 23, 2014 11:33pm
Why should NS resign or even go on leave? If IK can't trust a commission constituted by SC whom can he trust. Only his own followers? It is absolute arrogance. And IK will be taught a lesson by electorate when elections are held after 4 years.
If NS is accountable why not IK and Quadri sab? Should not SC appointed commission be required to fix responsibility for loss suffered by Pakistan due to this tamasha? Somebody should surely pay for the costs?
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Aug 23, 2014 11:37pm
Here is my suggestion. Do election audit under direct supervision of 3 serving Lt. Generals of army. Hand over all records of election and Nadra capabilities to their disposal, give them 15 days. All they have to do is look at each ballot paper, verify it, authenticate or discard it, tally up the good votes, declare winners. What ever the results every one accepts, Any constituency where ballet papers are not available, lost or damaged, null and void the election and do re election in that constituency, each ballet box under direct eyes of a army soldier. No one has to resign.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:49pm
If this precedent of removing a PM or to change the system by dharna is set than wait not in distant future for tablighi jamat and dawat e islami(green turbans) annual congregation participant to descend on Islamabad in millions claiming they are in majority as they have gathered the highest number of people in Islamabad so governance system of their choice should be enforced in Pakistan.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:50pm
Most logical point put up by the govt is that if judicial commission finds that PTI was the winner and elections were systemically rigged to bring PMLN in power.Not only NS will resign but also they will immediately dissolve all assemblies and call for fresh elections.This way Imran Khan can possibly become and call himself real PM after a few months rather than waiting for 4 years.This is victory for PTI .But PTI has created so much drama that they want something big to save their face.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:56pm
2 days ago I had suggested that PM Nawaz should be off the hook for the days investigations are to be carried out and then if it is proved that elections were not rigged then he resumes as PM and Imran + Qadri be taken to task and now Imran has suggested alike. PM Mawaz should agree to it and let it be established if elections were rigged or not. Shouldn't
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Aug 24, 2014 12:02am
I am living abroad, i have always send money to Pakistan through banking channel. Despite my respect for IK, i will continue to do so because its least i can do for my homeland. Please IK, you are icon so advise people to pay taxes. Pakistan biggest problem is low tax collections. We collect around Rs. 3000 billion against annual spending of around Rs,4500, how long we can sustain this deficit.
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Aug 24, 2014 12:03am
I can promise you that NAWAZ SHARIF will regret again that he didn't take the right decision at the right time. He has a history of getting it late when the things go out of reach. It won't cost him anything if he takes a leave of one month. He can come back after 30 days and go on with his government and in the mean time he can chose another Ghulam Haider Wain type person. Not a big deal to defuse the situation.
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Aug 24, 2014 12:07am
Its about principles. Imran has them but few people of our nation still believes in let it go. Just do sacrifice for Democracy and let they have kick backs. As we are going through difficult time and bla bla. Please read european or US history, in chaos nations has to make right decisions and leaders are born.
Please Pakistan nation raise your standards. You deserve better than zardari, nawaz and fazul ur rehman.
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Aug 24, 2014 12:10am
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Aug 24, 2014 12:14am
Imran has seen some ray of hope! That is why he has chosen to wear Ray Ban sun glasses for an indicator!
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Aug 24, 2014 12:16am
Imran is a stubbornly spoiled child grown beyond "Sathha-Baatha"!
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Aug 24, 2014 12:25am
I want to ask a question from Imran Khan and Tahir ul Qadri that what is the importance of Promise and Commitment in Islam.
Both Imran and Tahir ul Qadri made written commitment that they would not enter the red zone. Why did they violate their documentary commitment? Does Islam allow to violate the commitment and promise. Don
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Aug 24, 2014 12:27am
Elections were conducted by independent Election Commission. There was independent judiciary in the country at that time. Impartial caretaker government was there in the country. PML-N contested elections like other parties.
Why Imran is doing character assassination of Nawaz Sharif? Why does he abuse Nawaz Sharif during his speeches? These elections were not conducted by Nawaz Sharif.
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Aug 24, 2014 12:28am
I have seen three channels and they are showing today is the largest crowed. Independent observer
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Aug 24, 2014 12:33am
I am proud of Imran Khan!! Finally some one I can trust who doesn't succumb to pragmatism and start justifying how living with corruption/nepotism is an epitome of rationalism!
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Aug 24, 2014 12:33am
It is so reasonable. NS Just go on vocation for a month While there is investigation on election fraud. I also believe you can not removed the prime minister but this so reasonable that they can not say No this demand unless they really have rigged the election. I believe this may be wake up call to sleeping Pakistani.
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Aug 24, 2014 12:38am
@Arif My eyes are open. If you attack the police with stones and sticks they will shoot you. Go to USA and try to do that or any country in the world.
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Aug 24, 2014 12:46am
The most amusing thing is the constant puzzlement of PTI followers at why the rest of the nation does not support them. Why can the people not see that IK is the only hope and all are corrupt, they wonder. It is not childish behavior on part of The Kaptan, but your children's future, they say all perplexed.
The fact of the matter is that the rest of the nation does not support this childish and immature stage show. Depending on who you believe, there are from 12,000 to 20,000 PTI workers in Islamabad. Will a sitting PM step down every time someone manages to gather 25,000 people in Islamabad?
The nation does NOT stand with Imran Khan. This is why his demands keep on changing. It seems that when it comes to politics, his ego is way bigger than his capabilities
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Aug 24, 2014 12:52am
@MHZ The best thing any one ever said about this whole fiasco.
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Aug 24, 2014 12:56am
We people of Pakistan would rather let the status quo be with the corrupt lot rather than to endure little more of the discomfort for a short period to ensure a better future!
There's no gain without pain!
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Aug 24, 2014 01:08am
What a joke - next demand will be that NS should not be in the country for 30 days as he can influence the investigation Don't be surprised if PTI demands investigation by a third force as humans in Pak cannot be trusted.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:12am
No one accused of a crime is punished unless a court delivers a guilty verdict( unless it is a mob rule, like the one IK & Q are advocating ) therefore The PM should only resign if a court of law like Supreme Court gives guilty verdict against the PM or declares the elections to be rigged.IK demand of PM's resignation at this stage is totally unjustified and childish possibly based on some hidden cause of enmity. However a time period should be agreed upon in which investigation must be completed.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:13am
Nawaz sahib ,please don't listen to Zardai.He wants you out so that he can come back in next Election in power.He is one of those politicians,who will do anything to stay in power.You are very sensible politician,listen to yourself,you will do great.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:14am
The people of Pakistan need to realize that no matter what government is in place, that the government does not directly result in change of improvement for individual lives. The government only passes laws and rules the country.
Nawaz Sharif has proved to be the most beneficial representative of the people and, though change does come slow, can prove to do even better things. Imran Khan, on the other hand, a former cricket player and relatively new to government affairs, is doing nothing more than inciting protests, making grandiose speeches, and holding rallies. If he were actually smart, he would work WITH the government (NOT against it) to effect better changes.
Furthermore, Nawaz Sharif is proving a good ally to the USA and if he were removed, it may prove that the USA would label Pakistan an enemy.
Wake up Pakistan! Work WITH the government and help make the change for the better.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:16am
IK has shown full trust on Chief Justice. Then why should NS resign?
Also, if we don't trust NS, then he has to resign every time the state is defendant?
NS should not resign.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:16am
In real life there is no substitute for handwork. What I find really troubling is the idea that if Imran gets rid of Nawaz and Zardari and tells America to shove it and thus will begin a period of peace and prosperity for Pakistan. It takes generations of hard work/education and not mere good and clean intentions to govern to change the fortunes of a country. Three years into a hypothetical rule of Imran Khan and his supporters would be thinking what went wrong and why are the rivers not flowing with milk and honey.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:27am
imran and qadri must wait 4 year for next election
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Aug 24, 2014 01:31am
ok if u do not resign even for one month, how about 6 push-ups?
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Aug 24, 2014 01:33am
Shah Mehmood Qureshi proposed Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif should resign for a period of 30 days for an independent probe into alleged poll rigging. Mr. Qureshi can not demand resignation of any civil servant including the Prime Minister unless a Pakistani court has delivered a verdict that the Prime Minister or civil servant has performed an act that warrants resignation. Mr Qureshi knows fully well that Pakistan is a country of constitution and laws and not a banana republic where gangsters and mobsters appoint and fire Presidents, Prime Ministers, judges and other top officials of government and Army.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:50am
Every victory involves a sacrifice. This is our time to sacrifice for long term gain. Imran khan is doing the right thing. And we all must stand against a corrupt and incompetent government.
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Aug 24, 2014 02:12am
It seems there will be no more elections in Pakistan. Just follow the teachings and rules of "the Liberator" of Pakistan, Mr. Imran Khan, hold a big demonstration of 20,000 to 30,000 people surrounding Nation's Capital in Islamabad, carry on sit-ins, shout slogans, crown a Prime Minister and escort him to Parliament and declare "As of now, this will be your Prime Minister and he can pick all members of Parliament.......Long Live our Liberator Imran Khan.
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Aug 24, 2014 02:53am
Why IK is not realizing that it is not cool to hijack an elected government. He with his Party boys is making everybody lives miserable. Maybe he just want to destablize the economy for the sake of fun....
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Aug 24, 2014 02:54am
Both sides should show some maturity. The only way to end this crisis is to get back on the table and talk. I somewhat think that more responsibility sits with the Government as it holds all the authority and a legal obligation to protect live and property of its people. Let this crisis be over soon . Ameen!
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Aug 24, 2014 02:56am
By reading the comments one can tell that most Pakistanis don't have a clue what democracy is, have never really experienced it and what fair and free elections are. Corruption and cheating are serious offences in a democracy but I believe that Pks are so accustomed to cheating and lying that they see little to no wrong in NS coming to power illegally. IK would be right to ask the PM to step down for 30 days while an investigation is done and so NS cannot meddle and puncture the investigation. If proven innocent IKs political career is pretty much over however what will you say if NS is guilty? That IK is immature and stubborn and wait 4 years so that the duo can cheat again? Of course NS and AZ don't want an independent investigation, they want to play musical chairs. It seems that some of you are content with rigged elections. Mind boggling. Pak is in a worse state of affairs then Bangladesh and Sri Lanka however Pak has much more resources to flourish. You don't see that NS and AZ have robbed you and continue to do so? They have all there assets sitting in Switz. Dubai US and UK, no questioning and what they are doing there? Perhaps you do deserve thieves to rule you.
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Aug 24, 2014 02:57am
@S A Alimi Why? Do you really think that NS tried to get the elections rigged. If there were some polling stations where some irregularities done, then only those portions of results should be put aside. And if NS still has a majority without those votes, then he should be allowed to complete his term.
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Aug 24, 2014 03:04am
@S Agha : There is no sacrifice in Dharna Dalna (occupation) of public properties, protest marches, shouting slogans on loud speakers, crowding roads to disrupt and impede traffic as these acts create inconvenience and nuisance to those who live in the area or work in the area or those who travel through the area. They bring women and children in crowd to shield from assault by Police/Security/military and this is proof of cowardly act.
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Aug 24, 2014 03:14am
I can see casket bieng prepaired and funeral ready, is pti heading to gallows!!!
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Aug 24, 2014 03:40am
@oBSERVER
NS is handling the crisis first time wisely. This is the best way to handle the nonsense and childish approach of IK
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Aug 24, 2014 03:44am
@Canada
Do you think that thorough investigation could be completed in 1 month?
Do you think that NS will be without influence when he is on one month leave?
IK and his supporter are living in impractical world.
Have you followed how IK conducted his own party elections? I have been one of the organizer till division level. The whole elections were engineering and rigged. Dummy sims were used to have the foundations of its elections.
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Aug 24, 2014 03:51am
Let Imran Khan wait in his container and complain for 4 years until the next elections come. We have all learned that he doesn't have the maturity to lead a nation. Why does he think a few thousand protesters at parliament should be the way to elect a government? Imran Khan only cares about his ego and not the country.
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Aug 24, 2014 03:57am
Pakistani nation has become used to "jaisa chal raha ha, chalay do" approach. It's shocking to see that people are ignoring the basic fact that there was rigging in 2013 elections and reforms are required. And reforms are only possible in a neutral setup.
The senseless Pakistani nation will take years to realize that what IK is asking for is a valid demand.
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Aug 24, 2014 04:00am
I been a long admirer of IK as a Cricket team captain and believed him to be a selflessly patriotic leader. But like millions of others I am shocked to see that in the madness of power he is engaged in endangering the democratic process, national stability and damaging the reputation of his own Country in the eyes of International Community beyond repair. Who will trust a Country where a far behind political candidate ( in over all Public Mandate) is allowed to siege the Capital and Govt with support of exploited Mobs and other self-seekers on Somalian, Yemenis and Libiyan style and demanding the surrender of power. Once this precedence of undemocratic and un-constitutional siege of Capital and robbing of the power through political militancy is allowed in a Country like Pakistan with hundreds of tribal, feudal, sectarian, secessionist, religious and criminal armed Mafias, democracy and stability may become a dream?
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Aug 24, 2014 04:22am
@Saqib No my friend the point is that IK cannot accept that he was defeated in the election.
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Aug 24, 2014 04:25am
@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad. In the last election one prevailed. it is just that the other does not want to accept it.
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Aug 24, 2014 05:03am
@Saima
Think u been listening to Nawaz League lil too much because this is there whole basis of staying glued to PM-ship;
This many people don't come out for no reason and then sit around in extreme weather for 10days in these conditions.
In history of Pakistan, when was this type of movement seen?
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Aug 24, 2014 05:04am
Look at the 2 sides.
Nawaz, Zardari, Altaf, Fazlullah, Asfandyar.
vs.
Imran Khan.
If not now, then never.
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Aug 24, 2014 05:23am
IK has revealed that he wants to get married as soon as possible, hence the Dharna needs to get successful very soon. That also explains why he has been so angry recently.
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Aug 24, 2014 05:25am
@Mustafa J.
180million people didn't vote in elections, Nawaz vote bank was somethng like 11,000,000.
Look at the ratio of people that came out in Egypt(Cairo itself is a city of 10mil+) or during french revolution. You will find
not even 5% come out. If 100,000+ people are coming out then u have a serious problem.
#GoNawazGo.
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Aug 24, 2014 05:30am
@waseem
Nawaz is glued to PMship. He would rather destroy Pakistan then take even a leave of absence.
If Pakistan has a political structure they would have impeached Nawaz after 30days.
Pakistan is run by 15people sitting in a 15mile radius of Raiwind. Nepotism as expected
is at its peak, economy is for his friends and family.
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Aug 24, 2014 05:58am
"PTI must show some flexibility"--okay, we gave you flexibility. What now? The ball is on your side, how are you going to spin it?
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Aug 24, 2014 06:24am
Now IK is saying that he wants Naya Pakistan quickly so he can get married. I commented a week ago that this all hullabaloo because he's not "getting it"
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Aug 24, 2014 06:26am
This "step down for 30 days" is an obvious (and childish) face-saving device for Imran Khan. If this is the level of thinking in ITC, then God help the people of kpk who are stuck with these PTI idiots.
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Aug 24, 2014 06:31am
@ben amin Do your struggle then - as the taliban have found out once the government stopped listening to Imran Khan's rubbish about "peace talks" and how the taliban are "invincible", our police and armed forces are quite capable of dealing with miscreants attacking Pakistan.
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Aug 24, 2014 07:03am
@Awais the issue is BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION my brother
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Aug 24, 2014 07:05am
Dear IK and PTI you are completely unreasonable. Your changing positions. Your senseless speeches just don't make sense. Where is the new KPK? I has supported you. My family had supported PTI. We had given money to IK's causes. NEVER AGAIN. A CONCERT DOES NOT REPRESENT THE WILL OF THE NATION. This is one man's ego gone out of control.
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Aug 24, 2014 07:08am
@MHZ Agreed but only the second sentence. First one does not fit our goal.
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Aug 24, 2014 07:13am
@Hasnain Haque you are insane too. PAKISTAN does not want this kind of change. It would be an artifical change.
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Aug 24, 2014 07:14am
@oBSERVER you mean popular sentiments of dharna people. Majority of people disapprove Imran way of change
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Aug 24, 2014 07:17am
@m ashraf - I have climbed up too high I cannot come down now folks Get me down some how or you go on and leave me here to dry.
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Aug 24, 2014 07:43am
@Javed what Nawaz has done good for PK. IK represents common man voice
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Aug 24, 2014 08:09am
@tac u will continue to send money to pakistan through banking channels. u will continue to pay tax knowing that government leaders are corrupt. IK said this just in order to create some pressure on badshah . after few days all will be well.
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Aug 24, 2014 08:43am
Ishaq Dar says the August long marches and dharna's have harmed Pakistan's economy to the tune of Pk. Rs. 490 billion so far!
Well, Dar sahib this is exactly what the Khan wants -- to make a new Pakistan, he must destroy the one we have!
All the terminology Khan is using in his declarations speak of DESTRUCTION. Just consider two of his most frequent ones: Tsunami and New Pakistan.
His Tsunami has already brought death and destruction in Peshawar without causing him and his PTI leadership even a blink!
Ik is determined to destroy Pakistan; then become Prime Minister
Does this sound like a plan?
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Aug 24, 2014 08:46am
IK is selected to run one of the provinces. He and his ministers are suppose to go run KPK not dance around the capital and still get paid salaries from KPK government.
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Aug 24, 2014 09:34am
TWO in ONE-Imran said quite aloud and publicly that when he succeeds in establishing Naya Pakistan he will marry again. In other words he is killing two birds with one stone-quite an intelligent and smart move. Mabrook in advance and I would love to visit both Naya Pakistan and your wedding. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / Kuwait / Cell (00965)66229897 / Email: zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com
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Aug 24, 2014 09:58am
I wish and pray that those who support this govt have the flavour of your son/bother/father/sister being killed by police firing and after 2 months you are unable to even register a FIR. I will then see how come you support this govt?
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Aug 24, 2014 10:18am
Nawaz, please leave your seat and go home for at least one month
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Aug 24, 2014 10:36am
Breaking New: Boots on the ground by Monday, Nawaz Sharif's VVIP cell arranged in Attock Qila
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Aug 24, 2014 10:47am
Shah Mehmood Qureshi is very cunning to give this suggestion.
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Aug 24, 2014 11:19am
Only one solution: Go nawaz go.
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Aug 24, 2014 11:34am
WIN-WIN situation. Imran started with resignation of PM Nawaz and took stand on it but because of negotiations with the government he has relaxed on it and wants PM Nawaz to be off for 30 days during which judicial investigations shall be carried out to decide the fate of not only Nawaz but Imran too. I think this be implemented soonest possible. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Kuwait
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Aug 25, 2014 10:12pm
This kind of "DHARNA" should come to an end. Enough is enough. The situation might encourage enemies to look for demolition of nuclear facilities. be afraid of that situation.
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