The plan to oust the PML-N led government and topple Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif from power is reaching critical mass.
The last 48 hours saw the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) and Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) anti-government protests morph Islamabad's Red Zone from a concert ground to a bloody battlefield, with at least three people killed and hundreds injured.
The deadly confrontation shows little signs of letting up, as both Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri have encouraged their supporters to battle on, while negotiations with the government appear to be going nowhere - despite the Pakistan Army playing the role of 'mediator'.
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Ahmed USA
Sep 01, 2014 12:16am
Snobbery and haughtiness of our politicians is appalling...a disgrace to the nation and its ideals...high-handed approach of the ruling elite and ignorant attitude of the opposition is a disgrace to the religious, moral and cultural fabric of our society...the only apparent reason that comes to mind is a complete lack of "knowledge and experience" in "religion and social sciences" displayed by our so called leaders...they are not a good example to follow...prayers for the ignorant, suppressed and oppressed folks who are being used and abused daily to achieve ulterior motives of these so called leaders cum politicians...
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Rashid Ishaq
Sep 01, 2014 12:17am
impressive speech by new SSP; this sounds professional one
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Naeem
Sep 01, 2014 12:24am
I cannot believe how IK has fooled the young. He is after power like all others. He is all me me me. How can a person be so arrogant
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Taimur Khan
Sep 01, 2014 12:33am
All sensible citizens of the country should thank the Army for supporting democracy. The Army is expectedto advise PTI and PAT to shun their senseless adventures in the national capital. Now that the Army has initiated their mediatory role, they ought to take it to its logical conclusion, to restore peace in the country!
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Ajay
Sep 01, 2014 12:35am
Why are Imran Khan and Quadri hiding in protected containers, and are sending their supporters to take the brunt of the police batons, and rubber bullets?
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asif
Sep 01, 2014 12:48am
Go dictator go
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MA
Sep 01, 2014 12:52am
So sad. I don't know when the pwople of this country will learn to live and act as a nation. I can only pray to Allah for peace and stability.
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Shahid
Sep 01, 2014 01:01am
Stability is the need of the country and the common man who has no interest in revolution of any sorts. This country is already over-loaded with countless problems and cannot afford anarchy and turmoil. Like all problems gone much out of proportions, the current situation has resulted in mistakes and blunders on all sides and it is high time that the leaders ,instead of capitalizing on the opponent's blunders, settle the matter in a mature and responsible manner and with the intention to resolve the crisis.
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Jimmy
Sep 01, 2014 01:11am
@Naeem
It has to be someone, when the country is going down... and this time for pakistan its imran khan... well done
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bukhari.m
Sep 01, 2014 01:28am
Mr. Imran khan should retire from politics he manifested his immature behavior and a despotic mind when he joined PAT for marching ahead, being oblivious of the inevitable danger to the people( brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, fathers and mothers of many)
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Abdul Mian
Sep 01, 2014 01:28am
@Ajay , because they are not leaders,and they do not care of other human beings life's. They are Cowerds,and their goal is to destroy Pakistan. They are behind Musharaf to achieve his freadom. I will give NS and army of the Pakistan, thumbs up. Very proud of my army and my leader,NS.
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Dipesh
Sep 01, 2014 01:29am
I am not sure how all this will turn out but at a time when Pakistan is facing multiple threats from radical Islamic forces, the opposition should have shown maturity and strengthened the forces of democracy. No matter how much they hate the ruling party they needed to strengthen the democratic processes and bottled up all the angst to be monetized into votes in the next election. The army and the terrorists may have been strengthened at the expense of all political parties and the political processes. But I could be wrong.
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Asif
Sep 01, 2014 01:33am
@Jimmy - Well done Imran Khan -Time for Nawaz to get lost
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Hussain
Sep 01, 2014 01:45am
IK and Qadri are standing for a cause. But fools will never understand. Justice will prevail in this country Inshallah.
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Jalal
Sep 01, 2014 01:51am
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Rashid
Sep 01, 2014 01:55am
"Nawaz Sharif is the name of a state of mind.", whereas IK is all about a person going out of mind :p
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Surreal
Sep 01, 2014 02:00am
@asif
which dictator are you referring to ? I think all politicians are dictators even IK and TUQ!
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Lucky Star
Sep 01, 2014 02:10am
Leader who call NS, Badsha, himself removed Javid Hashmi, and three other MNA~!LIKE A kING.
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jami
Sep 01, 2014 02:14am
Nawaz Sharif is man, he can never learn a lesson from past. He has only concern with present.
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Aisha
Sep 01, 2014 02:19am
U don't know the injustice done here!!! WE NEED JUSTICE and Our basic rights!!! At least he is standing up for those people!
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Nasir Canada
Sep 01, 2014 02:27am
@Naeem A leader has to be someshat arrogant, otherwise job will never get done. Churchill was of the same view.
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Sultan Amir
Sep 01, 2014 02:35am
Unjust social orders do no fall merely by appeals to the consciences of the oppressor, though such appeals may be an important element; history teaches us that they fall because a large enough number of people organize a movement powerful enough to push them down. Rarely do such revolutions emerge in a neat and morally pristine process.
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farhan
Sep 01, 2014 02:35am
Good one Asmatiullah Junejo SSP. I know you are always leading from the front. Clear Msg to protestors that we are policing not discriminating. Imran and Qadri should understand that thier are red limits. People tried to cross the walls of PM house after that police started shelling.
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M. Emad
Sep 01, 2014 02:41am
By creating a mass hysteria type situation, Imran-Qadri control the mind of their supporters . . .
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Arif Aslam Khan
Sep 01, 2014 02:41am
A fool might dream that filing of a fake FIR will kill the Azadi movement, we have seen dozens of such ill thought FIRs being thrown out of Court in first hearing.
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rukhezehra
Sep 01, 2014 02:47am
its totally a senseless drama imran khan did he just showed his frustration and anger because he had not been elected as a president Pakistan as he was 100% willing to become soo he should have gone to a proper procedure to eradicate this present government instead of making so much fuss
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manal
Sep 01, 2014 02:58am
nice press brief by the new SSP, seems like a good police officer.
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manal
Sep 01, 2014 02:59am
@Surreal But NS is worse, he stole the people's mandate. Lets not forget that
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maqsood
Sep 01, 2014 03:01am
Dear Pakistanis
We all are still not understanding what is politics and who are our leaders. We have seen repeatedly the same scenarios over the last 67 years, unfortunately we are not able to recognize our leaders. We expect from them best performance but do not contribute any thing from our self. Many of our leaders does not have basic education and they do not qualified for the job and we expect from them solutions. I think. it is lack of knowledge on our part which make poor out come. We need to focus on our self, How we can do better rather than leaders. We need to get political education, so we can recognized a good leader which can automatically lead the nation to success.
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Vikas Rehman
Sep 01, 2014 03:05am
Neither PTI nor PAT appear to have shown much flexibility during any negotiations, but the government also seems to have hoped that PTI/PAT supporters would get tired and this whole thing will come to nothing. Even if Nawaz does not go, and I do hope he doesn't, these event might ensure that Pakistan finally starts moving beyond the status quo which has ensured 'the elitists' govt for the elitists by the elitists' since her inception.
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Yawar
Sep 01, 2014 03:07am
@Jalal you said "Men...go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.
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Rea
Sep 01, 2014 03:09am
Now everybody is playing innocent. IK denying inflamatory speeches, similarly TUQ is also preceding innocence after giving azans, wearing shrouds and digging graves. PAT is always one step ahead . Again reading Same script of FIR as from MT tragedy. They know it sells and public is going to buy it. What kind of people are we sorrow fed with?
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Vikas Rehman
Sep 01, 2014 03:15am
There's not much wrong with the system that Pakistan's constitution provides for the citizens, unfortunately it is only implemented to first and foremost safeguard the elitists' interests. The masses survive on the drops that sieve through the elites. This is why the number of Pakistanis going below the poverty line is increasing by the year whilst the elitists' assets are going up exponentially.
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z khan
Sep 01, 2014 03:24am
Go Imran Go
Go TUQ Go
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Ahsan
Sep 01, 2014 03:26am
I was never imran khan 's supporter, but yesterday he won my heart and warn his respect. He stood up on his container when police were brutally using their force, he stood tall when tear gas shells were raining on his head. I think he should get rid of opportunistic ppl around him who abandon him at the testing time. Imran khan salute from Karachi and my respect.
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A. J. KHAN
Sep 01, 2014 03:37am
Imran Khan, Where are your sons ? You are exploiting innocent people/ youth of Pakistan to fight for your selfish motives.
It is still time for you to come back in your senses and stop challenging the writ of the Govt, and asking unconstitutional
demands i.e resignation of the Prime Minister.
Also, today you have been exposed by the statements the president of your party Honorable Javid Hashmi that you are not a Democrat . No wonder you stood by General Musharaaf. I am appalled by your statement about your president of your
party.
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Vikas Rehman
Sep 01, 2014 03:38am
@bukhari.m
No doubt, it was immature. But how many of those fathers, mothers, daughters, sisters can go to a police station and get a genuine FIR registered (not referring to PAT's point of view)? The list can go on, but that would be repeating the old mantra. The question is does the present system, or the way it is implemented, take care of one of the most fundamental human rights, self-respect; forget roti, kapra and makan. The system has to change and change comes through movements and agitations. Not all such movements succeed, but they help if a country is willing to move away from status-quo. And if citizens are not willing to take part or it disrupts their cozy lifestyles then you can look forward to your future generations voting for Hamza or Bilawal's sons.
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Syed
Sep 01, 2014 03:48am
I am stunned to see the criticism of some people in the comments ( The ones against IK). I do not live in pakistan and pity the state of the nation. If Imran was here in Canada, he would have scored 90% approval rating for the things he talk. No wonder Pakistanis have gotten what they deserve i.e Zardari and Nawaz.
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Syed
Sep 01, 2014 03:54am
@Rashid Then no one can rightly help. You truly deserve NS.
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Realist
Sep 01, 2014 03:55am
What a blissfull night! The protestors are sleeping peacefully and the viewers are at peace also tonight. Good choice of SSP Ismat. I think Army Chief should also issue statement everyday to keep the two warring camps inline.
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Husain Akhtar
Sep 01, 2014 04:04am
People uprising against injustice and corrupt implementation of Pakistan constitution and parliamentary system is well established by now. To salt the wound state machinary has been used to harass and endanger the demonstrators and their leadership - this does not save but seriously damages the democracy.
Those who pretend to defend institutions need to examine the rotten nature of the institutions in the first place - what they seem to be defending is indefensible and is seemingly an arrogant and oppressive attempt to defend self-interest and empire building - all very disgusting!
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Ahmed USA
Sep 01, 2014 04:18am
As the clouds of chaos and mayhem start to wane...it is now evident that Imran Khan and Tahir ul Qadri were totally clueless about their aims and objectives to achieve meaningful goal...been saying it all along...in the end it will be free for all between IK and TuQ to grab power at all cost...once NS,IK & TuQ were friends but now they hate each other...they had time to counsel each other for better governance instead they used to shower praise on each other...while "insaf" talks about marriage proposals hiding in his container and "inqilab" rally poor, ignorant rural folks to charge while hiding in his bullet proof limousine...one wonders when this nonsense is going to end... :)
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Azhar Shah
Sep 01, 2014 04:21am
@Hussain What is the cause??? All I hear is that they want the elected PM to go, if that is their cause then they are going about the wrong way. Elections; win the elections and then muster support from all the parties to make a change. Non of the political parties are supporting IK. Democracy is the way to go not Dharna.
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Jawad
Sep 01, 2014 04:25am
@Surreal
That my dear sir I fully agree with. Ik was a dictator even as a captain. But he was sincere not corrupt made secessions on merit that's why his secessions mostly paid off
The rest however don't know the meaning of merit and sincerity.
Giving millions of rupees to Kalsoom on what merit/ brother is CM who calls himself khaadem I aala and the rest of ministers from family says it all about sincerity and merit. Same goes for Zardari. He even went one step further and changed his sons last name. See what people do for money and power.
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Iltaf Orakzai
Sep 01, 2014 04:27am
our support will be always with you. u are the last hope to save pakistan and i request to true pakistanian people to support him
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Jawad
Sep 01, 2014 04:39am
@Dipesh
Cleaning starts from your own home. Clean up your home , outsiders will respect you.
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GA
Sep 01, 2014 04:59am
@Dipesh - You are right. At times of war these divisions are the last things you need. I agree with IK supporting the poor but not sure I can agree with this approach. Nawaz would have won even without rigging so to create this strife is in bad taste by IK.
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Raana
Sep 01, 2014 05:04am
It is clear to me that the current Government has lost its credibility. My unbiased suggestion is for the current government to step down willingly, the election commission call for another election that is conducted in transparency, and let the masses pick electorates that win the elections by vote not by fraud or stuffing ballot boxes. Thank you.
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NZ
Sep 01, 2014 05:07am
@Jimmy well said!
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catherine
Sep 01, 2014 05:10am
@Ahmed USA ummm this is the ignorant and oppressed that are following these people.........You have just insulted the poor o Pakistan by trying to make a point that's relatively pointless..
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NZ
Sep 01, 2014 05:10am
Well done SSP! Proud of you! only sensible man in force present there!
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Tariq
Sep 01, 2014 05:15am
Wht right ISPR has to tell elected Govt how to deal with the situation in Islamabad. Why the Govt of Pakistan allows ISPR to have a Twitter account?
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Ameens dad
Sep 01, 2014 05:21am
Agree with Ahmed,s statement. I am wondering who us behind all this. First cancellation of Sri Lanka president, then maldeve president and now threat of Chinese president,s visit cancellation is there. Is indian intelligence is using Qadri and imran is acting a shallow minded foul mouth. Government is not great either but protest leaders are destroying the nation at this time. Imran could make a lobby in parliament to give hard time to nawaz but seems like he does not know these things. He want to become premier right now. May be he has no hope for the future. sorry pakistan, that's the reason I left you.
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Matt
Sep 01, 2014 05:26am
When egoistic Elephants fight, poor grass dies!
Imran Khan and Nawaz Shariff turned out to be foolish actors who have failed to recognize the script!
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Senior Muslim
Sep 01, 2014 05:32am
It seem like that the army has agreed to looking into the vote tampering issue. If they do so - they will become the king makers. They might decide to side with Nawaz or they might go with Imran - Foreign influence will play a big part.
At the end of the day the party that is good for the common man/country should prevail.
I am personally a fan of General Mushraf - he is the one to gave Pakistan an independent free media. We do not hear any stories of him using the government to build personal wealth.
Imran is an honest and sincere person but is he diplomatic enough to run the affairs of the country - What would be Dr. Qadri's role when the dust settles.
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Mustafa J.
Sep 01, 2014 05:39am
@asif : If you mean Nawaz Sharif as dictator, unfortunately he did not make himself the Prime Minister of Pakistan despite his desire to become so. It is the Parliament (Shoorah) of Pakistan that appointed him Prime Minister and only Parliament by majority vote (over 170 votes) can remove him. No 50,000 crowd, no marches to Parliament House or Prime Minister's House, no protests, no threats, no demonstrations can undo what what the Parliament representing 180 Million Pakistanis did. Pakistan is a democracy and ruled by the will of majority whether they make right decision or wrong decision, their decision must prevail.
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omar
Sep 01, 2014 05:49am
Be grateful that an institution as professional as the army exists in Pakistan.
Imagine if the army wasn't powerful ; today there would have been no moderating force in the entire stand off.
The government and anti government forces would have clashed and there would have been massive bloodshed. That state would cease to function and militants would overun the country.
God bless Pakistan army .
until the feudal system is overhauled democracy cannot work for Pakistan . until that happens Pakistan army is the only choice we have.
Only they have the interests of the Pakistani state at heart. Politicians beating the drum of democracy are only doing it for the own interest . democracy in Pakistani ensures feudal monarchy.
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malick.
Sep 01, 2014 06:43am
well done pmln, pti, pat, police and miltary.
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Chanakya
Sep 01, 2014 06:56am
Parliamentary affairs must be, should be, only can be dealt in a parliament. Some leaders need basic lessons of "parliamentary style of government'.
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Real Truth
Sep 01, 2014 07:05am
IK's actions over the last few days have simply been mind-boggling. I always thought this guy was a leader in his own right, however that's no longer the case, and that, instead of leading, IK has decided to follow TUQ. And during this transformation, he has decided to blur the line dividing PTI's mostly middle-class educated supporters and TUQ's mostly uneducated but devoted disciples.
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Noman
Sep 01, 2014 07:07am
We are a young nation learning how to function as a democracy. No shortcuts exist and evolution of nations are time consuming and painful at times. Patience an make this journey easier and quicker. Blind faith in today's leaders is unwise but to reject the system because of them is equally foolish. We should work with the leaders that this weak system has produced rather than pitch one leader against the other. Let's strengthen systems through continuity so that our leaders of tomorrow are more mature, our nation is more mature and democracy produces better results. Patience and respect for other people's views will be critical characteristics for us to develop if we are to learn how to live like a nation
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Nadeem
Sep 01, 2014 07:10am
@Rashid Agreed.
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Bismillah Khan
Sep 01, 2014 07:30am
@Abdul Mian What is there to be proud of Army? Musharaf is Army. What has the Army given to the people of Pakistan so far other than bringing disgrace and chewing up a chunk of budget every year.
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adi
Sep 01, 2014 07:39am
@Taimur Khan there is not ONE thing your great army has done in SIXTY years to bring peace to Pakistan..quiet the opposite actually..think about it man. What makes u think they ll start today?
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Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
Sep 01, 2014 07:41am
Mabrook PM Nawaz! No clash with protesters and the night passed away without any confrontation unlike what happened a day earlier which has saddened all of us to see injuries and killings of none but our own compatriots. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat
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Ali
Sep 01, 2014 07:47am
Weldon Imran Sahib you are doing well and we all are with you and your ambition. Inshallah you will be successful and will be able to get rid of these corrupt politicians. We all are watching every moment and all wrong doing of these corrupt politicians. They mad this country jungle and all the world is observing very carefully. Inshallah you will win Ameen
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Arsalan Iftikhar
Sep 01, 2014 07:57am
Imran Khan and Qari have now drilled the last nail in their political coffins.
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Abdul Q
Sep 01, 2014 08:16am
It is simple fact that PTI had 6 point agenda, the GOVT agree to 5 points, excluding th only point, the 6th for PM to resign. No where in the world, after ruling party agrees with your 90% demands the protest continues, NO WHERE IN THE WORLD!Tgis is all about Imran's ego and foreign enemies of Pakistan trying to destroy Pakistan usin a stupid guy like IK. Imran is not a change agent he is a foreign agent and working intentionally or unintentionally for foreign forces that do not want Pakistan to succeed. They saw GOVT starting great projects in Pakistan, and wanted to stop them, so we got IK AND TUQ; TUQ is definately foreign agent working for Pakistan's enemies to destroy Pakistan. I hope and pray people of Pakistan can see the real players behind the curtain of IK and TUQ, the real foreign enemies of Pakistan!!!!
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Tamza
Sep 01, 2014 08:18am
@Ajay How often have you seen a President lead the charge in recent years. The leaders' job is to lead, not to die in a charge.
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Abdul
Sep 01, 2014 08:23am
The best method to solve the problem is holding a referendum to find a solution.
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Abdul Q
Sep 01, 2014 08:26am
@Real Truth... Agreed ... Plus TUQ seems to be doing everything that foreign enemies of Pakistan want, to
Stop
Pakistan's progress ... There is definitely steely foreign hand in this and IK is being played like a fools by TUQ... IK is a follower of TUQ and not a leader at all.
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Sultan Alvi, Canada
Sep 01, 2014 08:48am
@Ajay Unfortunately, in these days of terrorism, the leaders have to be protected. The leader is the most important asset of any organization. Similarly, the general of an army cannot fight up front, like the good old days of warfare.
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Lakha
Sep 01, 2014 08:58am
Respect SSP Asmatullah.
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Sachin Dhawan
Sep 01, 2014 09:01am
I some time wonder how Pakistan, its people its leaders (IK, TQ etc) attack directly on PM of the country. I was watching some speeches of Imran Khan, but the way he was addressing the PM calling him that
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Readet
Sep 01, 2014 09:22am
So many resources of an already troubled nation are getting wasted..loss of millions of rupees and human resources and time with each passing day. .sad.
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pathanoo
Sep 01, 2014 09:23am
@Naeem It is very easy for Imran to be arrogant because he is so ignorant.
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pathanoo
Sep 01, 2014 09:25am
@Naeem Don't worry. Imran has NOT fooled the young. They know him well now.
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SR
Sep 01, 2014 09:29am
@bukhari.m There should be no danger. Protesting is a constitutional right. You you should consider the ruthlessness of the govt. on who's orders the policemen attacked those same women and children. They were directly firing shells at IK everytime he stepped out and blocked all food supplies whilst beating the media and disallowing treatment of the dead and injured at the hospitals. And they used real bullets. A rubber bullet doesn't find its way inside a man's skull.
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pathanoo
Sep 01, 2014 09:34am
A year ago if some one had said how power hungry Imran Khan is; I would NOT have believed it. But now you can NOT deny the fact that Imran Khan is not only in it for himself and power but he is willing to destroy democracy just so he can grab power. He has absolutely lost touch with reality. He will tell any lies, U-Turn and then Double Back on himself if the occasion suits it. Now, that he has gotten what he was agitating for - an investigation in to vote rigging and a promise from Nawaz Sharif that he would resign if he is found guilty of vote rigging; what is the protest all about. He should give the system a chance to investigate. But I don't think any thing less than the PM chair will satisfy Imran Khan. He wants it now and he doesn't care how he gets it and who he destroys in the process - his supporters or the country. The rest is all show. SO SAD.
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Real Truth
Sep 01, 2014 09:43am
@Arsalan Iftikhar Agreed 100%. Like I said earlier, most unfortunate part is that while all of this was expected of TUQ, seeing IK falling for this is just appalling. Colossal lack of judgment on IK's part!!! So unfortunate to see how in a matter of days, he has supervised destruction of his political career through entirely self-inflicted wounds! Worst of all, he will now find himself on the receiving end of these FIRs, and thanks to overactive media, there is a lot of evidence that goes against Khan Sahib.
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Sunil
Sep 01, 2014 09:45am
The PM of Pakistan Nawaz Sharif seems, lacks power and call for an arrest of Imran Khan and Qadri for causing unrest and disturbance in the country? He is elected democratically and let finish his term.
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Kashif
Sep 01, 2014 09:55am
Actually Islamabad Police SSP stating we are not involved in all the beating and nonsense done over protesters. Its the Punjab Police. Dawn is pro. Nawaz sold newspaper. There are more then 3 deads in protest don't you know that.
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Weirdity
Sep 01, 2014 10:00am
@Hussain "IK and Qadri are standing for a cause"
They definitely are standing for a cause. The cause is to achieve power at any cost to anybody except themselves.
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kamran
Sep 01, 2014 10:03am
we don't need foreign forces, we have our own people turned enemies.
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Aftab Alam Khan
Sep 01, 2014 10:06am
A unique battle, a matchless match i.e slingshot VS rubber/live shot. But as in Indian film,Lagan, the winner was the poor villagers, the winner of Islamabad match will be Protesters having slingshot/sticks in their hands irrespective of match fixer i.e Javed Hashmi
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Muhammad Khan
Sep 01, 2014 10:14am
Is politics all about speaking lie and fooling the masses??? IK has been delivering provocative speeches during whole time of sit-in and then just denied to accept the responsibility of rioting yesterday when he ordered to march towards PM house. Does he not know the importance of buildings like PM house and other adjacent buildings? At one side khawaja saad's name is included in the FIR because he was seen as delivering provocative statement and on the other side the so called justice-seekers defend themselves that they cant be implicated in sabotaging. IK should be asked about his dictatorial style of leadership where he just expels hi party's president within no time. Does he hold any moral ground to criticise the NS for his style of leadership?? Government should deal IK and TUQ with iron hands.
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Mashal
Sep 01, 2014 10:23am
It's so sad that TuQ and IK's face saving stunt has cost 3 innocent people their lives and left hundreds of injured. They are the one responsible for it by provoking people to march toward PM house. May Allah protect all those people who are part of their foolish political suicidal adventure. It's time for these step brothers to wrap up this mess, they have already cost this nation a lot.
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rajat
Sep 01, 2014 10:26am
Indian media is debating whether Imran or Qadri would be a good PM. what is the view in Pakistan. Do they think IK can be a good PM for them. Qadri could be deputy PM. Both of them will work for peace and normalcy in Pakistan.
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Sheraz
Sep 01, 2014 10:33am
I cannot understand those who argue derail democracy.since elections were rigged- there is no democracy to begin with.
Under these conditions
The people have a right to request resignation.
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Dr. Malek Towghi /Tauqee
Sep 01, 2014 10:39am
Supporters of Imran, Qadri and the unelected self-appointed 'guardians' of the country should know that Nawaz Sharif is the last hope for voluntarily and peacefully maintaining the Federation of Pakistan. Long Live Nawaz Sharif. (Malek Towghi / Tauqee, Ph.D., Liaison, Baloch Human Rights International)
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AdHawk
Sep 01, 2014 10:46am
After getting their hands tied by the Army, the only realistic recourse for the govt. is to let the Army deal with the protestors. If they do manage to make their way inside the PM house and trash the place, well, then let the whole world see what a 'peaceful dharna' looks like.
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Ahmed USA
Sep 01, 2014 10:51am
Government's apparent disdain towards protestor's demands have led to this unfortunate situation...still there is time and all is not lost...sit down & talk...otherwise IK & TuQ's rallying cry may result in some untoward incident...may Allah help us all...Ameen...
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Valiya
Sep 01, 2014 10:54am
@Shahid If they are not common men then who are them? someone special only created for agitation?
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Usman
Sep 01, 2014 10:58am
well said.@Ahmed USA
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IZ
Sep 01, 2014 11:06am
Imran does not understand that rights are not given without responsibility. This realization is critical for political leaders who can have a wide impact on our nation's fate. I am afraid that feeble excuses like "I told them no to do it" are not going to cut it. A leader who is not able to command his troops should resign. Imran can perhaps take his own medicine and pass on the torch to a more sensible leader in his party.
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Gulfy
Sep 01, 2014 11:18am
The leaders of these protesters have chanegd their stance many times before. Their plan always has been about creating a law and order situation. For a large gathering in support of their cause they should be in Lahore or Karachi, but no they wanted to protest in front of PH.
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tshaikh
Sep 01, 2014 11:20am
Excellent, Tahir Ul Qadri, Altaf Hussain and Imran Khan are now going to create a New Pakistan.
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Baba De Kamaqlano
Sep 01, 2014 11:23am
A clear division on this issue is seen in Pakistani society where people who want status quo, dynastic rulers and feudal are all lined up against protesters who are among the poor masses of Pakistan.This issue is unlikely to die down even if the protesters failed to achieve their goal.
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tariq
Sep 01, 2014 11:28am
@A. J. KHAN :check you history and economics, Musharraf was the only leader in Pakistan besides Ayub Khan to do good to Pakistan. Rest just filled their own Bank accounts. I guess ignorance is Bliss!
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Gulfy
Sep 01, 2014 11:29am
@Lakha - is he getting involved in the politics?
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Nerry
Sep 01, 2014 11:32am
PTV shut down and the imran & qadri 's activists have taken over. well done IK & Qadri this is your naya pakistan. it is a nice way to start your politics in 18 years may your stay in jail for the rest of your life.
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Impartial
Sep 01, 2014 11:33am
Million Dollar Question is that "Who would become the PM after NS? Is it Imran or TUQ? If it has to be a democratic PM then either of the two will have to rig the elections to win the majority anyway."
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Sania
Sep 01, 2014 11:35am
@Sheraz Congratulations to you! Naya Pakistan is made. Ptv is offline now and in the hands of the mob, this is the Naya Pakistan, imran has made. Shame
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Sukkur Saheb, JUD
Sep 01, 2014 11:35am
COME NAWAZ, COME - GO QADRI GO IMRAN - LET PEOPLE LIVE PEACEFULLY.
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Rea
Sep 01, 2014 11:42am
Told you they were not revolutionaries but anarchists.
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Shabib Rizvi
Sep 01, 2014 11:44am
@tshaikh Inshallah
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Khaled.
Sep 01, 2014 11:46am
@Ahmed USA. Rightly pointed out the present lot of politicians is a disgrace to the nation and religion, high time we got rid of them.
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RH
Sep 01, 2014 11:46am
What has gone wrong with IMRAN KHAN HE IS OUT TO DESTROY RAHTER THAN TO BUILD OUR COUNTRY.
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Shafiq Islam.
Sep 01, 2014 11:56am
Thanks Pakistan Army for supporting democratic process in Pakistan. Last two weeks whole World observed anarchy of Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri in Red Zone in Islamabad. May be both are want to destroy democratic process in Pakistan.
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Mashal
Sep 01, 2014 11:57am
Attack on PTV's HQ. Shame on IK and TuQ. Is this your peaceful march toward PM House?
No doubt you people deserve tear gas.
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Khaled.
Sep 01, 2014 11:57am
@Naeem. For how long is he going to fool them, history tells us that fate of arrogance is sometime very unfortunate. Imran needs to read history.
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Gulfy
Sep 01, 2014 12:03pm
IK is with TuQ (again) - both need each other very badly. The plot is thickening. It is a desperate situation for both. Several of their deadlines have come and gone. They will keep saying 'remain peaceful' but in fact they are leading their followers towards violence. There is no going back for them.
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saad
Sep 01, 2014 12:03pm
shame on IK & TUQ
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Behram
Sep 01, 2014 12:03pm
An army of the people is invincible
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Murthy
Sep 01, 2014 12:06pm
It is quite unfortunate to see that IK and Qadri are together trying to destabilize the Elected government of Pakistan, and creating the nuisance in the public and throwing the whole country in dark, afterall what they are trying to prove? what they are going to achieve? when these kind of incidents happening and they are ransacking the public property and killing the journalists. it is nothing but trying to hijack the whole country. IK did not have any guts to win the election after losing badly and escaping from the clutches of death he is now trying to snatch the PM post with the force. when the whole country is facing many problems, instead of trying to help the government to rescue country from the problems he is trying to damaging the whole country and country's economy. one side in NWF the Taliban is trying to take a control of provinces and here he is trying to ransack the govt. where is the Pakistan heading for? what is government is doing? why could not they arrest these two politicians who are polluting the country and misguiding the youngsters.
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Baba De Kamaqlano
Sep 01, 2014 12:07pm
How many people watch PTV these days?. I suppose not even 2 percent people in Pakistan.
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Ahmad
Sep 01, 2014 12:09pm
When Karachi Airport was attacked by Taliban, Army started military operation. They should immediately start operation against those who are attacking Parliament, PM house and PTV.
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roshan
Sep 01, 2014 12:10pm
I am an Indian and have nothing to do with this business. Although, somewhere feeling that its Imran khan and Qadri who are leading Pakistan towards anarchy. At least, believe in democracy, army or imran cant solve your problems overnight. Problems in your country are not just fix nature of issues. If you think Nawaj Sharif is incapable to lead the country then wait for his term to get over and then vote for Imran Khan or Qadri to lead Pakistan. I still have doubts that they will be proved better than Nawaj Sharif.
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Pmahmud
Sep 01, 2014 12:12pm
Is this the Tsunami Imran promised? Is this the revolution of Qadri? In six month Pakistan will be below Afghanistan
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Asif Raza
Sep 01, 2014 12:15pm
Since yesterday, every channel is running the news that police also attacked media people. Now, since PAT, PTI people entered in official pakistan's meadia station, will every channel be running this news all day long to condemn and show incident significance?
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Napier Mole
Sep 01, 2014 12:15pm
PAT now out of desperation is falling into its own trap. It has repeatedly tried to get people out of their homes across Pakistan and have miserably failed. Their total support base is not bigger than the miscreants sitting in Islamabad. Would these hundreds or thousands of people allowed to set the destiny of 200 million Pakistan. The government should come out in force against these miscreants. They have the moral high ground. Just like they can not let thiefs and dacoits run amok, they cant let anarchists run around creating mayhem. TUQ leader should be arrested and deported.
Meanwhile, PTI has begun to play with both the hunter and the hunted. It is saying that it is not in favour of violence but is supporting PAT. It says that we did not try to scale PM House but patting PAT on the back for doing that. Once again this hypocrisy is exposed. If the government acts strongly against PAT and if PTI still condemns it, then they will stand exposed even further.
The government should definitely not give in to the mobs, whatever it takes. The Script Writer needs to be told enough is enough!
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S Zahid
Sep 01, 2014 12:16pm
what a nationalists, Shame on you both Imran & Qadri.
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Sania
Sep 01, 2014 12:21pm
@Baba De Kamaqlano What point are you making here? People taking over a government building is legitimate? I wonder, why don't they arrest these people? is that not a crime? is attacking a police man not a shootable offence? No wonder taliban are cheering for imran, after all its their modus operandi, that imran and qadri have adopted.
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Shahid
Sep 01, 2014 12:23pm
"Raheel sahab, order karain: Imran", "Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) chief Dr Tahirul Qadri directed the protesters to follow orders issued by the Pakistan Army."
I am really confused. I would like to understand how Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri wish to preserve democracy through the quoted statements.
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Khaled.
Sep 01, 2014 12:23pm
@Hussain . It is better being a fool, then following the anarchist approach of Qadri and Imran who are power hungry ,one doesn't know whose cause they are serving .
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Khaled.
Sep 01, 2014 12:24pm
@jami So is they case with Qadri and Imran
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Anwar
Sep 01, 2014 12:25pm
Though I very strongly believe that first of all no 1 should be allowed to escalate the issue more than its size
Govt should help all public institution so that they can work under no pressure from any side , As this is the important time to give support and strengthen the army.
Unfortunately it looks some forces are dragging them towards wrong direction.
To resolve the rigging issue with IK they can offer live camera proceeding that can be monitored by 'observers'.
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Khaled.
Sep 01, 2014 12:29pm
@Ahsan Where was he when his supporters were under attack and subsequently rushed to hospital, did he have the courtesy and the courage to visit them at the hospital to inquire about their welfare
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Khaled.
Sep 01, 2014 12:31pm
@tshaikh What about the old one, are they planning to sell it off.
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Talha
Sep 01, 2014 12:33pm
I think all of this anger from the protesters is culminating from the wrong registration of FIR, government not moving an inch to accommodate the demands of the protesters and the incident two days ago where 500 people got injured and a few died. I think the government has mishandled the situation pathetically and instead of defusing the situation and calming these protesters, the government has been competing with the protesters, trying to enforce the commands on the protesters which is basically making them look like tyrants in the eyes of those protesters who have lost people in Model Town and who feel cheated in Elections. I still believe that the government is in a position to give instead of competing or being arrogant. The government needs to act in a humble way and I think Nawaz Shareef going for a leave would definitely shut this crisis. I see no other option than this. Force or derogatory comments from PMLN would make matters worse for PMLN as the protesters are very angry. Goverment you are in a position to accommodate their demands, Mian Sahab please go on a leave for the sake of this country. Calm these protesters down without force!! This government needs to learn a little from the previous PPP government and act politely with the protesting party.
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UR
Sep 01, 2014 12:43pm
What you sow , so shall you reap.
Enjoy !
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ishtiaq ahmed
Sep 01, 2014 12:43pm
IK & Qadri actions disgrace for the nation.Army must intervene and put them in jail.Banish elections for 5 years
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Salma Ahmad
Sep 01, 2014 12:45pm
It is very sad indeed, to see how this mob in Islamabad, led by two self-centered persons. Enough is enough. The Pakistan Army has a duty to the nation, its constitution and to the duly elected parliament and government. Let them now move to clear away this mob and to arrest its anti-state leaders. so the daily work of the nation can once again resume.
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Usman
Sep 01, 2014 12:54pm
one lie on the floor of the house by a PM has make the scenario worst. To cover this reputation damage, things are come up to this extent. Non serious and coward role of PPP has also contributed. IK is not materializing his gains in form of solid draft and just asking for a resignation. Can a sincere pool of panel consisting upon media, politician, civil society and the affected parties sit together to sort out this issue.
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Mumtaz
Sep 01, 2014 12:55pm
Military has proven once again that they are not under elected Govt.
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Javeed
Sep 01, 2014 01:04pm
Being an IK supporter I strongly condemnable the attack on PTV building and those involved should be punished, no second thought on it. Army should arrest all those trying to enter the buildings.
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Husain Jan
Sep 01, 2014 01:13pm
@Rashid Ishaq Impressive ? may be for you. But his words that the policemen using excessive force against journalists :will" be brought to justice are full of doubts. When video clips are available to identify the brutal minded policemen they could and should have been arrested on immediate basis. The words "will be" are never trusted in our country simply because such statements are promises are always.....always meant only for public consumption...not for action or implementation.
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saad
Sep 01, 2014 01:15pm
shame Jamshed Dasti. why Govt prove that they were not able to say anything to all these ghundas?
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saad
Sep 01, 2014 01:18pm
oh now IK will comply Army orders, coz he knows what is the result of disobeying Army.
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Real Truth
Sep 01, 2014 01:25pm
I am an overseas Pakistan, but oh my God, I am literally crying at the pathetic scenes of what is being made of PTV station. And then, even more pathetic is to watch Pak Army arriving, and just gently asking the criminals to leave the building -- Hello, WHY DID YOU NOT ARREST THEM. In any civilized country, a proven tresspasser would be immediately arrested -- and here, they are delighted just to make the hooligans leave the place after destroying everything there. Hate to say it but unfortunately, looks like PTI and PAT are determined to turn Pakistan into IRAQ, Syria. Shame on us as a nation!!!
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saad
Sep 01, 2014 01:28pm
very good. first ask the poor people to attack building then disown them.
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Zony
Sep 01, 2014 01:33pm
Nawaz Sharif please go now, for saving your throne u killed innocents, you always use materialistic approach, and the so called educated peoples commenting this article supporting u, i feel shame on our society, if we can't stand for our rights then at least support those who sacrifices their lives for us.
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saad
Sep 01, 2014 01:34pm
wow, IK, is it really a democratic country but this is what you were denying all those days. another u- turn. going good with disgrace.cheering for people who are raiding state buildings. shame on your agenda
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Z khan
Sep 01, 2014 01:37pm
What govt is waiting for? just arrest all these stupid people and end this drama within hours. Nation has got fed up with these dumb leaders like IK and TUQ.
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shayan
Sep 01, 2014 01:39pm
Impressive to see how a star leader is changing Pakistan's destiny and getting rid of the corrupt.. Go Imran we all are with you!
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Naeem
Sep 01, 2014 02:05pm
IK is using mob to oust an elected government. Any political party in the future will do the same.How sad.
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Tariq Amir
Sep 01, 2014 02:07pm
@Hussain Only time will tell who was fool. I am surprised that you people have such high hopes with Imran and Qadri.
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Tariq Amir
Sep 01, 2014 02:09pm
@Aisha They both are using these words like justice, they actually stand for anarchy and destruction. You will see soon.
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Syed
Sep 01, 2014 02:33pm
Obviously everything that is going on in Islamabad is upsetting and regrettable. IK and PTI should control and ask their people to control and not enter any of the buildings. Police shouldn't use any kind of force if they are peaceful. I think all the protesters listen to Army deployed there, and dont break any rule, then why is police is deployed there. PMLN has shot themselves in foot by deploying police and using force against their own people. But out of all this, the worst thing that is obvious that we as a nation are in pieces, Media in two opposite directions, people divided, police divided, politicians divided. So many atrocities against innocent people couldn't even unite us. Reminds me of Hassan Nisar's word, this whole country has lots of hajooms living in it which have never acted like a nation. I am speechless, ashamed, and proud as well at the same time living far away from my country. Ashamed to see people being shot and people going into buildings and seeing our politicians saving their power. Proud to see small number of people but still people came out and stood for their right. I wish i could afford to go back and do this. As a society we die when we start justifying the killing of innocent people. There is nothing more valuable on this planet than a Human life. People are estate and estate is for people.
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NK
Sep 01, 2014 02:34pm
Please condemn this brutal act whichever party you belong it is now fights of egos rather than for Pakistan survival
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Azmeen
Sep 01, 2014 02:39pm
@shayan
Yes, star leader is destroying Pakistan. You should be happy.
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Azmeen
Sep 01, 2014 02:42pm
@Zony
Zony you should be shameful for your position, not for the society.
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Khaled.
Sep 01, 2014 02:46pm
The drama at PTV it seems was not the brain child of Qadri or Imran, they do not have the intelligence or the courage to orchestra it, the script writer was some one else, and they fell for it
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Dr Hammad A. Qureshi
Sep 01, 2014 03:01pm
Dear All,
I know one thing for certain. If all that has transpired in the last six months or so i.e. existence of evidence of wrong doing in multiple constituencies in the elections 2013, model town bloodbath and now what is being perpetrated in Islamabad, any government in the civilized world would have resigned by now. I ask only one question from the Prime Minister. If PML(N) and the government is so sure of the mandate given to them why are they so afraid of a re-election. It is a normal course of action in any democracy once the mandate or the electoral process has been found to have been compromised. There is some evidence already available for that to be a possibility.
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Nasir
Sep 01, 2014 03:48pm
Had ex-CJP Iftikhar Chaudhry listened with patience the Constitutional appeal filed by Tahirul Qadri before the 2013 elections on the constitution of the Election Commission, we may have avoided the present situation that we are in today. The indulgence of ex-CJP IC in interfering with the powers of the ECP and rendering the EC Commissioner powerless as disclosed by Justice Kitani and been part of election rigging as disclosed by Afzal Khan is also hard to comprehend. What Imran Khan and TuQ has done is that that they have brought the core issue that ills our government ability to do good governance. The protests will hopefully bring about change in electoral process and particularly verification of votes through electronic means as they are casted to avoid fraud votes.
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Ganga Din
Sep 01, 2014 03:55pm
Booked means what? Have they been arrested? They should be arrested by Punjab Police so they can see the difference that azadi march brings.
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Moona
Sep 01, 2014 04:09pm
TUQ and IK have turned Islamabad into Planet of the Apes. Why is no one stopping them? I am so shamed to belong to this country.
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Naveed
Sep 01, 2014 04:42pm
I believe after announcement of Supreme Court Judges panel to inquire into 2013 election rigging and registration of FIR for Model Town Killings, PTI and PAT should have called off the protests. As they have not, GOP should try them for treason and sedition.
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Gulfy
Sep 01, 2014 04:58pm
PTI and PAT have fulfilled one promise - they have created a law and order situation for sure in a way that the conditions are worsening day by day. Is it going according to the PLAN? It is for us to wait, watch and see. The country is heading backward but I will be happy to be proved wrong.
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Radial
Sep 01, 2014 05:08pm
The citizens of Pakistan are so glad the PTIPAT protesters are "peaceful" and IKTuQ are studiously preaching peace and non-violence. Can you imagine what a non-peaceful protest would look like?
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M J Syed
Sep 01, 2014 05:09pm
It is a mistake to book these them on terrorism charges. They will not get convicted. Please charge them for offences they have really committed and then ensure that they actually go to jail. That is Rule of Law.
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Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
Sep 01, 2014 05:15pm
Mob gathering is not a joke to be honest. In reply to those who say that if PM Nawaz resigns now because of protests then it is setting an example to topple anyone any time by gathering mob of thousands of person which has some substance but then my question is who can gather such like mob for most three weeks in a row? Just start counting our protests from day one and personify me that leader who could achieve like what Qadri and Imran have done? Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / Kuwait
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Shahpur
Sep 01, 2014 05:53pm
Things are really heating up in Islamabad.
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Syed
Sep 01, 2014 06:00pm
Salute to Mr Javed Hashmi.
Pakistani people must be be thankful to him for his pro-democratic stance. Hashmi Saab you have always been the great politician. Other politicians including Imran Khan, Nawaz Sharif and Zardari do not have any regard for political and democratic values. They can go to any extent in order to gain power.
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Javeed
Sep 01, 2014 06:51pm
Hashmi sahab you are not saving democracy but monarchy! Be realistic and answer all those students who are forced to sell vegetables instead of getting jobs. Answer those who are forced to leave their own country and live like a slave for their livelihood. Answer those overseas Pakistanis who feel embarrassed with the system of affairs in Pakistan. The system for which which U r saying have sacrificed has nothing to offer to the poor. Discrimination/corruption everywhere, give me one reason I should stand for this system.
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Z khan
Sep 01, 2014 06:52pm
"It is all scripted" thanks for telling us that but it was known from start that IK has some other agenda. But no one can topple elected govt and if army do so then then this time they will see real dhamal on streets of Pakistan. This is 2014 not 1999.
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Narendra KV
Sep 01, 2014 07:00pm
The Pakistani people have given the ruling party a clear mandate just over a year back. All legitimate issues must be raised in Parliament. That is the proper forum for resolution in a democracy. Any mindless violence on streets will only result in innocent young people dying and largely nothing to gain from it. Pakistani youth need jobs and a secure future and all parties must work to get investments into the country. The interests of vested interests must wait.
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mont
Sep 01, 2014 07:01pm
Do you think an arrogant ik can run the country . this is the same l k who didn't speak one word of praise for his teammates during his victory speech of the 92 world cup all he talked about his dream he is so arrogant and shrewd person. And he is showing his real personality now. He doesn't care about his supporters he is just power hungry.and tub is low light so b . destroying our country.
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Javeed
Sep 01, 2014 07:07pm
Mr Hashmi sahab can u plz tell me if u knew someone is scripting all this why were u part of the protest rally for 16 days! This means if it had happen without confrontation from police u would have no problem.
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kaliraja t
Sep 01, 2014 07:07pm
Pakistan Army is playing game with the support of
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AbbasToronto
Sep 01, 2014 07:11pm
Is hamam mein sub nangay.
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Talha
Sep 01, 2014 07:12pm
Javed Hashmi is a person who called Nawaz Shareef his leader in Parliament after getting elected on PTI ticket and Imran Khan is a person who refused to become PM under Musharraf regime. Javed Hashmi is a person who took oath under Zia regime and Imran Khan is a person who built a cancer hospital where poor people get treated for free. If this was scripted then Nawaz Shareef was a part of it because Imran Khan had been asking for fourteen months for investigation in four constituencies. Had the verification been done then there would have been no march and no crisis. If Javed Hashmi was really a torchbearer of democracy and knew that Imran Khan was up to this then why didn't he tell all this then, why did he wait up until now. Now Javed Hashmi is saying that Imran Khan insulted Supreme Court. If he felt so bad about it then why did he not leave the party? Even now all the core committee members are supporting Imran Khan and can be seen on containers. Who is forcing them? They stand by Imran Khan by their will. Nature of a person is tested in difficult times and right now it is not Imran Khan but Javed Hashmi who has been exposed.
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kaliraja t
Sep 01, 2014 07:14pm
Pakistan Army is playing games with the support of PTI and PAT.Army is interested to take over the power.It is their game.
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M.M.Sherazi
Sep 01, 2014 07:17pm
Javed Hashmi has been the glaring symbol of democracy, he cannot be undermined, the press conference carries the truth though its bitter.
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Fahad
Sep 01, 2014 07:19pm
Aik Bahadur Admi - Hashmi, Hashmi
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Kashif
Sep 01, 2014 07:20pm
Coming from someone who has followed a script throughout a very shady history of political activism, including student leader, inciting mutiny in armed forces and benefiting as a minister in PML-N government, its surprising Javed Hashmi is accusing others of following a political script.
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Iqbal Khan
Sep 01, 2014 07:25pm
@Syed this is a total betrayal, like to abandon your owns in battlefield. He has lost credibility. In future no party can trust this person.
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imran ali
Sep 01, 2014 07:26pm
if Javed Hashmi man of integrity.Why he did not resigned?why he accompany Imran to Islamabad
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zack Khan
Sep 01, 2014 07:26pm
@Naeem So SHarif is all about you you you not me me me ...????
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zack Khan
Sep 01, 2014 07:27pm
@Abdul Mian What did Nawaz do, you are so proud of him ?
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Nizamuddin Ahmad Aali
Sep 01, 2014 07:36pm
Islamic Republic of Pakistan is a democratic country, but army being a subordinate entity is brought in prominence by media and public alike. Are we still a military ruled country or the brainwashing has not yet diminished fully. Army is there to guard the borders only
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Naeem Syed
Sep 01, 2014 07:40pm
An old spent bullet venting his anger. He can say anything to make sure he is considered to be on the fence to ensure is feeble Political life which ever the situation may unfold. He has deserted his post in the last few days many times when the going got tough. He is a disgrace to the word Politician. Now he will fade away to retirement that he should have done when true to his character he quit the MLN Nawaz group.
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Salim A
Sep 01, 2014 07:44pm
If IK and Qadri are so upset about corruption and rigging, then they should put themselves out there, just like all other great leaders have done. Leaders like Nelson Mandela or Martin Luther King put themselves in the lead and risked their lives and limb. How about IK and Qadri going on a hunger strike until death to bring reform to our system.
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Dr haroon
Sep 01, 2014 07:51pm
Javed hashmi is lying. So sad.
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niterider
Sep 01, 2014 08:05pm
Hashmi sahab has no future. He cannot stay anywhere....
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Rashid
Sep 01, 2014 08:06pm
Shame on these "Peaceful" protestors!!
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Sajid Ansari
Sep 01, 2014 08:18pm
Two questions. Is Javed Hashmi a traitor or a rebel? If everything he says is true, was he on board with this plan until yesterday?
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khan
Sep 01, 2014 08:19pm
another sad shameful event in Pakistan's history. we should face the fact we will never have true democracy in Pakistan since army is the strongest institution in Pakistan and they will always control over every thing. they cannot impose martial law because of international sanctions from the Donner countries so the solution is to have election as a show piece only for the Donner countries but make sure elected prime minister will work as a deputy commissioner.
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bkt
Sep 01, 2014 08:20pm
@Mustafa J. > The issue sir is whether Nawaz Sharif has won his seat or rigged his seat? If he has won it, then he should have no trouble in ordering a re-count of the 4 constituencies showing that he is in fact the true representative of the people. But if he has not won his seat then he will be in trouble because that means that Parliament/has been fraudulently misled into voting for an un-elected person. So let him show that he is in fact our representative and then you will see that 50,000 or 100,000 people will go home and Imran Khan can talk to himself.
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ALi
Sep 01, 2014 08:22pm
@rajat I am certain our neighbors will conclude that they are terrible joke on the name of humanity and sanity.
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GHAIRJANIBDAAR
Sep 01, 2014 08:22pm
Although Javed Hashmi is a senior politician yet he doesn't have the clear vision of practical politics that's why he's still in the process of switching from one party to another where as Imran Khan is straight forward,bold, knows well where he stands and
is very firm in implementing his ideas. Both PPP and PML-N are afraid of his growing popularity and doesn't want to see him in power otherwise the Javed Hashmi incident would not have been taken place. Let truth prevail.
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ALi
Sep 01, 2014 08:25pm
@tshaikh wow names of big terrorists all together, hates off to you. you missed zardari, bye bye ta ta pakistan ;P
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bkt
Sep 01, 2014 08:27pm
@Z khan > The only place that has real significance in terms of Dhamal in Pakistan is Karachi, because its taxes pay for the whole of Punjab and the army to run. Without Karachi the whole sorry structure of Pakistan will crash. 65% of all taxes and more than 40% of the country's GDP comes from this city. In addition it is the engine of growth in Pakistan. So if there is coup - all eyes will turn to whether Karachi supports it or not. That is the only Dhamal that counts
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ALi
Sep 01, 2014 08:36pm
@Radial well said
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Syed
Sep 01, 2014 08:43pm
@Iqbal Khan Hashmi has not betrayed but he was trying to save our Country from democratic instability and military coup.
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Pragmatist
Sep 01, 2014 08:44pm
Hashmi is just playing the script of his alma mater. His is and always was the member of Jamaat-i-Islami. These people can not tolerate that Tahir Qadri and Imran take credit for working for the democracy in the country, while they have been side lined.
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Jawad
Sep 01, 2014 08:45pm
@Salim A
Hunger strike. Really. That's the best you could come up with?
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jj
Sep 01, 2014 08:57pm
@Syed He was fired. If not he still would be with IK.
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zobia khan
Sep 01, 2014 09:00pm
So he sacked the party president without following the constitution of his own party. And we are to believe that he will uphold the Constitution of Pakistan. Also, he is in violation of the oath he took when becoming a member of the National Assembly. This man is a liar of the highest order. His approach to life is teleological - the ends justify the means. Come whatever in the end it will all be justified.
He has gone to workout - what about the family of the 3 protesters who died, where do they go?
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Surreal
Sep 01, 2014 09:00pm
Off course it's scripted. All the tell tale signs are there... for those who can see.
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Iqbal
Sep 01, 2014 09:17pm
IK made a deal with the Army. Gen. Sharif got the control of Foreign Policy from NS. Army decided to leave IK in the cold. He got used.
Oh never mind TuQ, he's more imported than all the imported products used in Pakistan. I hope both of them are arrested though now.
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makm
Sep 01, 2014 09:18pm
Why can't the army brass in Pakistan leave the corrupt politicians to fool the people, embezzle the country's wealth, practice blatant nepotism and be totally nonchalant about it? Why can't they let them do this forever? Why? Why? Why? What's wrong with this?
Now, the army may have their own form of corruption, one need not be creative about that.
Nobody trusts any body, simply because nobody is trustworthy! Not the student, not the teacher, not the milk man, not the salesman, not the politician, not the civil servant, not the army man, not the cop, not the lawyer, not the mullah not even the Chief Justice. This is a bad state of affairs. Welcome to "Daghabazistan" !
What is the solution to all this: Start being trustworthy, everyone!!! When you tell someone " I will see you tomorrow", be there! Surprise! Surprise each other with trustworthiness. A new concept! This will help, it will work like a cold sits-bath given to a patient of 'hemorrhoids'. Everyone has got it in this country for various reasons, treat it, and things will get better.
Stop "daghabaazi" and be trustworthy. Everyone needs to do that. Without that suffering will continue. Be trustworthy, teach, preach and demand trustworthiness.
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Talha
Sep 01, 2014 09:21pm
When Hashmi sahab was asked to provide proofs he said that Javed Hashmi talking is a proof, well that is not enough Hashmi sahab. Hashmi sahab ISPR has denied Army's involvement in any of these protests. I would trust Pakistan Army on any given day and time. Hashmi sahab you not only maligned the person who has sacrificed so much for this country but you also maligned the Army of which the entire nation feels proud.
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Ali
Sep 01, 2014 09:24pm
@zobia khan did he say, "i sack JH'' ? He only said, "from now onwards JH and I don't follow the same path". Don't over analyze things. Problem with Pakistan is that we all consider ourselves as champions of everything. Yes, he did sack those 3 parliamentarians who didn't resign. You can presume that the core committee decided that he only announced.
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pathanoo
Sep 01, 2014 09:37pm
Imran Khan will, actually he already has made a deal with someone who could put him in the PM's chair now. That's all Imran is focused on and nothing else. He is trying to fool the young of the country and his die hard ignorant supporters that he is doing all this to save the democracy while all the time destroying it. The people are not fooled any more. Javed Hashmi's revelations will put the last nail in Imran's political coffin.
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Harvinder singh
Sep 01, 2014 09:39pm
These people who are demonstrating, don't have taste of Democracy. They want power by hook or crook. They don't have faith in democracy & Democratic institutions. They want jungle Raj & mentally still 1000 years behind. Every issue can be solved in democracy under constitution. Government should deal firmly with these anarchist.
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jk
Sep 01, 2014 09:41pm
Javed Hashmi left PML N but seem like he never get out of love for PML N. That what happens when politician like him move from party to party without any alignment with party vision. In Pakistan politics there are vast number of politician whom can claim bagis who move from party to another party. Javed Hashmi is setting up example for present/future pans. This is called politics of benefits, politicians like him attached with every type of govern like parasites.
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Syed
Sep 01, 2014 10:02pm
@jj No, his personality does not match with that of troublesome Imran Khan.
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M. Afzal
Sep 01, 2014 11:33pm
NS is a product of Zia ul Haq and a history of rigged elections and corruption. It has to be stopped and stopped NOW.
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Bilal Khan USA
Sep 01, 2014 11:34pm
Javed Hashmi is a true and honest leader. He never conspired to get in power like Nawaz, Zardari and IK. He has exposed them all.
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Sanaullah
Sep 02, 2014 01:00am
The army commenting and advising on political directions favouring the hooligans will only add to the strength of the political blackmailers trying to seize power through mobsters.
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Mustafa J.
Sep 02, 2014 04:14am
@bkt : Who should decide whether Nawaz Sharif has won his seat or rigged his seat? In a civilized country like Pakistan all disputes are settled in court of law, not by show of force by gathering 50,000 people, marching to Parliament House and Prime Minister's House, crowding the vicinity of Parliament, blocking road and streets, shouting threats.
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sunny
Sep 03, 2014 10:50pm
go nawaz go.
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