London march backs Kashmiris’ struggle
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LONDON: Thousands of people took part in a march here on Sunday to express solidarity with the people of Kashmir and support their decades-long struggle for the right to self-determination and to protest human rights violations by Indian troops in the occupied region.
The march which started from London’s Trafalgar Square and concluded at 10 Downing Street was attended by PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, his sister Assefa, leaders of Pakistan’s religious and political parties, including the Muttahida Qaumi Movement, and members of civil society.
Also read: Held Kashmir: submerged and suppressed
Addressing the participants, former Azad Kashmir prime minister Barrister Sultan Mehmood said: “We have gathered here to express solidarity with the Kashmiris and draw attention of the international community to the Kashmir issue”.
He said the struggle would continue till the independence of Kashmir in accordance with UN resolutions.
Some people in the crowd pelted Bilawal Bhutto with plastic bottles, cans and shoes when he was on the dais at the square and raised slogans of ‘Go Nawaz go’ and ‘Go Bilawal go’.
Former interior minister Rehman Malik and PPP Senator Saeed Ghani accused some political elements of playing at the hands of India’s sympathisers to sabotage the event.
The London police tried to take Bilawal Bhutto away from the dais for his safety because of the saboteurs’ violent behaviour, but the PPP leader stood resolute and responded: “These agents (of India) who are trying to damage the cause of Kashmir and intimidate me into leaving should know that I will not leave before completing my speech. This is not about me or you; this is about the people of Kashmir.”
He declared that nobody would be allowed to play “partisan politics or diplomatic games” with the lives and future of the people of Kashmir. He said he had attended the march to pledge solidarity with the people of Kashmir and to reaffirm his party’s unconditional support for their struggle for self-determination.
In a tweet message, Assefa said: “Indian agents tried 2 stop my brother from speaking but Alhamdulillah they did NOT succeed. He completed his speech & Alhamdulillah he is safe.”
Published in Dawn, October 27th, 2014
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Oct 27, 2014 07:05am
Watch the London Million March, huge success !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V--nHJMykkg
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Oct 27, 2014 07:24am
Good job Balwal for supporting Kashmir cause. Shame on PTI workers, you will not succeed in Paksitani politics.
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Oct 27, 2014 08:03am
Bully followers of the bully leader aka Imran Khan. What else can you expect from them?
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Oct 27, 2014 08:03am
lol,so much for "Million March".Thousnands?only a few hundreds turned up.And they even mistook the agenda of the march and shout anti-Pakistan slogans.What a flop.
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Oct 27, 2014 08:19am
LoL less than 2000 ppl showed up for the million man march. The Diwali celebrations 2 days ago has 10 times that crowd. Kashmir and pakistan are fast becoming irrelevant.
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Oct 27, 2014 08:24am
My friend in London counted and there were in total 361 people in all in the march. And they called it a 'Million' March.
Just shows how much anybody is interested in Kashmir issue now. Many Pakistanis did not like Bilawal Bhutto's presence and pelted bottles and created chaos. He is so desperate to connect with people that he went to such tiny gathering as well.
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Oct 27, 2014 08:50am
I was there at the million march. Only a few people turned out for the march. The people who came to the march were very disappointed and started fighting among themselves. I had to leave the place because a fight broke out and they started throwing eggs and tomatoes.
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Oct 27, 2014 09:09am
Wow. Indian agents did it. Then PPP members fired at PTI supporters in Karachi because PTI supporters did it. Comments from PTI supporters shows that they did it.
I am just wondering when will Pakistanis would stop telling lies.
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Oct 27, 2014 09:14am
Kashmir is the boiling point and the bone of contention between India and Pakistan. I wholeheartedly condemn Pakistan's support of militancy in Kashmir and India's massive human rights violations in Kashmir. It is time India woke up to the reality that is Kashmir and resolved it with Pakistan. But with Modi at the helm of affairs I do not see that happening any time soon!
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Oct 27, 2014 09:24am
So Indian agents sabotaged this ,first they didnt let some 998000 ppl join,then trashed BBZ,
UN must first take care of Indian agents
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Oct 27, 2014 09:33am
Flop shows and fighting each other there too
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Oct 27, 2014 09:36am
Its sad to see that its thought that Indian agents disrupted the march, but its totally wrong. The person caught for the disturbance is a relative of Imran, I am not sure though as I read it on ibn live.
The turnout was very less and mostly captured by Pakistani politicians and internal fights between Pakistanis.
Total number not even touching 10000....
Please guys lets move on and start to talk about progress, and development.
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Oct 27, 2014 09:38am
Politicking by PPP has sabotaged the 'Cause of Kashmiri's march and its impact.
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Oct 27, 2014 09:41am
Didn't mentioned Eggs hurled on the organizer. Hardly 1200 people gathered infect no Kashmiri was there.
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Oct 27, 2014 09:42am
Pakistanis cannot even unite for the cause of their jugular vein and leave their differences behind, instead they want to show their dirty laundry to the world in the streets of London.
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Oct 27, 2014 09:48am
What a shame! Pakistanis couldn’t even demonstrate for their own cause!
Dawn please mention that these so called Indian Agents were not Indian at all, (some sources even reported that the people shouting were led my Imran Khan's nephew)
It was NOT about Nawaz or Bilawal! Damn Fools who thought it was.
I am sorry to say Pakistan is rapidly turning into a mindless nation of blind followers.
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Oct 27, 2014 09:48am
Here is the actual story - http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/bilawal-bhutto-zardari-booed-at-million-march-in-london-612249?pfrom=home-lateststories
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Oct 27, 2014 09:49am
Who were the financiers of this jig, the same ones who financed Ghulam Nabi Fai ?
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Oct 27, 2014 09:51am
Utter failure. The crowd is very less.
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Oct 27, 2014 09:53am
This march was a flop show. Actually Mr Bilawal Bhutto had to be escorted out by the British Police as people were pelting eggs on him and shouting 'go back'.
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Oct 27, 2014 09:54am
The presence of Bilawal was a horrible misstep. It removed any pretense that the rally was for Kashmiris and reinforced skeptics' suspicion that this was just another overseas rally organised by Pakistani politicians for their own ends.
Kashmir is as usual just a convenient ruse. What India does with jackboots Pakistan does with hollow words. Same difference.
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Oct 27, 2014 09:54am
You really got an egg on your face with this one, Mr. Bhutto :-). Hardly a couple of thousands showed up for your 'Million March'.. and they too drove you away unceremoniously.
It was hilarious watching you hide behind security guards, while you were being pelted with empty bottles & eggs !
Do pakistanis a favor.. quit politics !
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Oct 27, 2014 09:55am
Hahaha it was a joke Rally. Bilawal is just using the K card to get some sympathy. All this energy if you would have put in the betterment of your people it would have been great. What you already have you dont take care off.
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Oct 27, 2014 09:57am
can any single person in this world would say that kashmiri people will be happy under pakistani regime?there is no hope for even pakistanis in pakistan.every time the civilians of pakistan were taken for ride either by army rule or civilian rule.its high time pakistanis should understand the importance of development otherwise they will go at least 1500 years.indian muslims are far better then them in every aspect in india. moreover everyone of us know pakistan is the safe haven for terrorism in this world.pakistan should change the mind set to govern its own people.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:00am
Bilawal is desperately trying to resurrect his career. He would not mind a few tomatoes and eggs in the bargain
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Oct 27, 2014 10:01am
Hahhha... Pakistanis get a life and stop dreaming. Kashmir is an integral part of India, those who want can very well join their fellas in Pak. Btw my Kashmiri colleagues at my office were too laughing at this so called Million March!!
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Oct 27, 2014 10:02am
Pakistan was denying that they don't have any hand in this demonstration, seems either they were not aware or lying.
BDW they should first talk about demonstrations of Balochi for independence rather than interfering on internal matter of other countries.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:02am
Thousands? Please upload better pictures as this picture shows about 200 people!
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Oct 27, 2014 10:03am
What a way for Pakistanis to make a fool of themselves in UK
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Oct 27, 2014 10:07am
This is what you call as ...taking a perfect aim....and shooting yourself. Yes this march was able to internationalize Kashmir issue....but internationalize what....that the claim of Pakistan on Kashmir is as weak and bleak as the number of people in this march. Give up Kashmir....you have lost a lot.....don't loose what you guys are left with........
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Oct 27, 2014 10:10am
Bilawal should have collected the Eggs and tomatoes and made himself a nice Omelette! Eggs are good for brain growth
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Oct 27, 2014 10:11am
@Raj... you wish. Kashmir issue will never become irrelevant until a solution is found based on wishes of Kashmiri people.
It's been 66 years since India occupied Kashmir; multiple generations of Kashmiris have been brought up and each new generation hates India more than the previous one. Ask your papa Modi to try and have some public meeting in Srinagar Lal chowk !!!!!
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Oct 27, 2014 10:14am
There are hardly 600-700 people there, not even thousands. Wonder why they called it a million march, my maths says a million means 10 lakh people.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:15am
FLOP SHOW.. ;-)
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Oct 27, 2014 10:19am
Hehehe million march remove three zeros
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Oct 27, 2014 10:19am
Watch this video...you will understand the the Bilawal joke.Now people of Kashmir know the Pakistan establishment is just using them for their own benefit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V--nHJMykkg
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Oct 27, 2014 10:21am
India has no respect for UN resolution. What is more is the arrogance and denial. India, be democratic and be humble.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:22am
we pakistani first need to resolve our own issues such as poverty, illiteracy,polio and terrorism. We should not let such idiot politician to overlook our problems for the cause and interest of foreign territory.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:22am
Can we please rename it to hundred march
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Oct 27, 2014 10:24am
It doesnt take a genius to figure out who the Go Nawaz Go guys were! Its shameful that even the national causes cannot unite our political leadership. Kudos to MQM and PPP workers though for not fighting with each other despite the recent flare up. It would have been great had Altaf Hussain showed up in person as well!
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Oct 27, 2014 10:25am
And sarcastic Indian comments start in 3-2-1 go...
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Oct 27, 2014 10:31am
Of the 2000 or so attended, very few were Kashmiri's and almost none from India side. What did it achieve? It just showed that no one in India's Kashmir supports Pakistan sponsored militancy in Kashmir.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:36am
Next time try naming it as Trillion march...may be then few thousands people joins.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:37am
Somebody lost the count of the mob really, they were not even 2000 on TV, most of them Pakistani. Million march? My mathematics tells me a million is 10 lakh.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:38am
According to latest statistics released by zaid hamid from his abottobad lab, 1 pakistani= 1000 Indians. so million march is correct technically.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:39am
Finally Modi effect In light.....no more intimidating actions and now they (Pakistanis) are crying before the eyes of world. Truth is that western countries very well know about the hidden and malicious intentions of Pakistan and now every one laughs when Pakistan cry.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:39am
Pakistanis have excellent sense of humor.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:40am
Protest of a single person means a protest against injustice, in that case they are enough to launch a protest.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:41am
Millions.. Nope. Thousands nope. Probably a few hundred sorry looking folks. The march was a joke. Not even Indian muslims joined in that march, not to mention kashmiris in England. Those are a bunch of pakistanis trying to foment trouble. Better luck next time, you losers.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:44am
Ghanta...... koi nahi aaya....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Oct 27, 2014 10:51am
So when minorities are attacked and being killed in Pakistan no one bats an eyelid. But when muslims are killed in Kashmir, here they are protesting thousands of miles away from home. How convenient.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:53am
Sharp contract between crowds in 'Madison square garden' and '10 Downing Street' ... one was discipline, other was unruly....one was chanting Mooodiii Mooodiii, other was Go Bilawal Go ..Go Bilawal Go ....
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Oct 27, 2014 11:02am
Only British Pakistanis have joined the march, where as no British Kashmiris are in sight.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:02am
Such a flop show. LOL!
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Oct 27, 2014 11:03am
Kashmiris know the truth & reality and what they want?
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Oct 27, 2014 11:04am
Politicians have made the case of Kashmir worse? Nobody wants a solution to this problem because it is bread and butter for many of them?
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Oct 27, 2014 11:05am
1000?? i was there and it was hardly 200 people, i have a better picture on my mobile that would give the actual story,,,btw, i went there out of curiosity
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Oct 27, 2014 11:14am
Cheap publicity drill. To mobilise a few thousand Pakistanis anywhere is no big a job. They will, even if someone is selling fish 'a Pound'. Making fool of a public on one side, none is seriously interested to settle, even listen, the issue. It is more of promoting the Zardari kids than any issue. Those tried to create disturbance could be Uzair Baloch's man - Why Indian agents. The country has fought three wars on the issue and all know what a WAR means and costs. Not saying the people have no 'right' but did the Pakistanis got their 'rights' what they expect and deserve in their own country ? A big NO.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:15am
Dawn should have checked its sources. I was present at event, and probably just about 100 people showed up. Of these 100 almost half of them were non residents of UK, most likely delegation from Pakistan. The show was absolute flop, people were absolutely non sympathetic and infact more irritated by the crowd. There were fightings, people throwing bottles and someone said eggs but didn't see that. People who attended were not even clear about the purpose of event since some of them started shouting "Go nawaz go" in rally for Kashmir. It was more of tamasha than a protest. Piece of advice. Such unnecessary drama is simply making a negative impact and no positive impact. Some of my Pakistani and non Pakistani friends including British lads were making fun of the over dramatized speech by Bilawal.
Bad reporting dawn, you should really verify your sources.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:18am
@Ram Rahim Dozens might be more accurate
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Oct 27, 2014 11:18am
International community does not care a fig for Kashmir any more, but cares a lot for Asia Bibi.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:19am
Was it a pro Kashmiri rally or an anti Nawaz, ant Bilwal rally? I am confused.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:20am
Also to add, no coverage by British media on this. It only shows how much UK cares about such silly protests. It would be more practical to encourage Musharaf-Vajpayee solution which proposed converting LoC to permanent boundary. I guess that solution is far more feasible and possible than any other outcome.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:22am
Former interior minister Rehman Malik and PPP Senator Saeed Ghani accused some political elements of playing at the hands of India’s sympathisers to sabotage the event....LoL. What time waste of Pak politician!! Instead of J&K issue focus on development.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:29am
On a serious note, Pakistan must first improve its international credibility before supporting anything. For a country which is known as the global hub of terror and Islamic fundamentalism (fundamentalism is the root cause of polio because the hardliners think that polio vaccine is a conspiracy), support to any cause will damage that cause irreparably. Honestly, its like North Korea supporting a cause…any cause. Even if its a good cause like saving the ozone layer, the international community will look upon it with suspicion. International credibility…thats the first step.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:34am
He is just trying to build hatred in our mind and also to gain attention and become popular. Why don't you please look into lot of other real concerns in our country than worrying about Kashmir? Don't sacrifice other people life for your selfishness for power.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:47am
Mr. Bilawal is struggling for the base, but if he wants success find out the real problem of common people and work sincerely to solve them instead of playing emotional cards. Lot of bloodshed already done in the name of Kashmiris. Please try to solve their problems sincerely instead of further bleeding them. Mr. Bilawal do not try for short cuts, even if you gain for time being, it will remain for short period only.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:54am
@raj So true my friend!!!
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Oct 27, 2014 12:05pm
actually less then 100 people were there and remaining were police personeels. they were shouting towards pakistans human right violation in pok. as there is no election and public representatives since independence. some eggs and bottles were thrown that one can see. actually those who gathered there dont know for what purpose they are called for. once again pak. exposed.
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Oct 27, 2014 12:08pm
Fight broke out between Bilawal Bhutto supporters and Anti-Bilawal Bhutto supporters.Less than 2000 turned up for the clash.Bilawal Bhotto wanted to establish himself in Pak Politics that failed.
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Oct 27, 2014 12:11pm
If India really believes in democracy and Human Rights they should hold referendum in occupied Kashmir as Britain did in case of Scotland. Let Kashmiris decide for themselves.
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Oct 27, 2014 12:18pm
Why does Pakistan says it is fighting for Kashmiris when it's aim is to get it? Isn't dumb to think world is that dumb?
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Oct 27, 2014 12:19pm
Million march ended up in thousand fight, leading to disruption and chaos.
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Oct 27, 2014 12:37pm
millions??? pls count the rotten eggs and tomatoes to get exact number........
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Oct 27, 2014 12:45pm
With a term like "Million Men"; who is fooling whom?
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Oct 27, 2014 12:46pm
Why shout the slogans of 'jiye bhutto' if he was there only to express solidarity with the kashmiris. Why politicize the event. He was just there for political gains.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:10pm
Compare this to PM Modi's address to NRIs at Madison square in US. This kind of gatherings cannot be 'arranged", it is possible only when people genuinely feel for a cause or they have genuine love for their leader.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:17pm
I am seriously wondering why 'Million-march' is suddenly rechristened as 'London March'? Any idea?
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Oct 27, 2014 01:17pm
Million march turned down to Thousand March.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:21pm
If white pak vl go n do March un US or UK u Will not à single inch of kashmir, ulta Jo haï vo be chala jayega
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Oct 27, 2014 01:27pm
Sir,
The soul of Pakistan people's party has died with the assassination of Benazir Bhutto and The zardari clan is only trying to seek advantage from the goodwill and soft image of Bhutto and his daughter.
Bilawal Zardari your time is over as heir of PPP dynasty.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:29pm
i think much more potential in Dino Morea to gather more than 1000 public in abroad.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:31pm
It's high time kapil sharma hire some pakistani foreign policy advisors as script writers..
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Oct 27, 2014 01:31pm
@Paki
nothing wil come out of it
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Oct 27, 2014 01:32pm
India Exposed!
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Oct 27, 2014 01:33pm
@Rahmin
even outside pakistan they cant live in peace & have to fight ?
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Oct 27, 2014 01:33pm
@Lucky Star Shame on you for taking PTI in this issue. Its India you should target right now.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:33pm
@AshwinMS Grapes are sour
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Oct 27, 2014 01:34pm
: we are ready for referendum, are you ready to take back 200 million muslims staying immorally in India. Afterall pakistan was meant to be separate homeland for muslims. @Shah N. Khan
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Oct 27, 2014 01:37pm
India seems to think they can ignore the issue. It is wishful thinking. The people of Kashmir will get what they want sooner or later. India needs to accept that the Kashmiri people do not want to be ruled by India. This is why they will not hold a referendum like Scotland did in the UK.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:41pm
Flop show...........talked about Million March and barely 900 gathered lol
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Oct 27, 2014 01:42pm
"A Million Man March"....what a shamble that was.....
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Oct 27, 2014 01:43pm
@Qaisar
kashmir issue has bankrupt pakistan while it has not made any difference to indian economy
hence why settle kashmir issue ??
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Oct 27, 2014 01:44pm
@Iqbal Bhai A muslim talking about democracy.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:45pm
using this issue for the sake of your sprinkling the politics.I know you BBZ how much patriotic you are.After watching the lame progress of Pakistan from the past 10 years they are turning their mind to have an independent state rather to affiliate with you Pakistan.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:45pm
@Rohan Bannerjee
even million people march will make difference to india's 1.2billion people
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Oct 27, 2014 01:45pm
After watching the videos and stills, I feel sorry for the people of Kashmir. With friends like these, why do they need enemies?
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Oct 27, 2014 01:46pm
This march is total flop,the name is million march but hardly around 900 people attended let alone million.
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Oct 27, 2014 01:47pm
Less than 200 people.....Million March. Aajtak News channel can make a cartoon on it lol
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Oct 27, 2014 01:50pm
lol Bilawal Bhutto was smashed with eggs and tomatoes when he arrived... stop embarrassing yourself further Pakistan... you've lost your relevance....
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Oct 27, 2014 01:51pm
@Zaid
why will indian muslims join the march ??
they are not stupid or idle
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Oct 27, 2014 02:02pm
After being present at the venue I can very confidently say that time has come for us to look at our own internal issues which are massive. Nobody is really interested in Kashmir. A few hundreds who were present which later swelled into maybe a thousand or so were having fun at the venue. 99% of them looked from Pakistan and the event was more or less a second launchpad for Bilawal. Waste of time. It seemed a more of photo opp rather than a serious event.
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Oct 27, 2014 02:05pm
Also, India should not object to such programs of pak in the future... as someone above said, it like taking a perfect aim and shooting yourself...so let pak be...
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Oct 27, 2014 02:12pm
@raj better gather that diwali crowd to show your pro kashmir image!!! deserves a true for this which you guys dont have.
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Oct 27, 2014 02:13pm
To All Pakistani and indian muslim brothers,
can either one of you please teach your great Qaid Bilawal to speak proper Urdu. It embarasses me that i can talk better Urdu than Bilawal.
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Oct 27, 2014 02:14pm
@Iqbal Bhai , have you gone through the UN resolution you are referring to ever ? If UN resolution will be followed entirely then Pakistan will have to relinquish its own Kashmir part also ....I can bet on this..
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Oct 27, 2014 02:17pm
Shah Rukh Khan attracted more crowd than this a few years ago, an entire part of London was crowded and traffic was crazy...
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Oct 27, 2014 02:17pm
Million is equal to three hundred as per Pakistan maths. Even among them, fifty percent thrown water bottles and shoes on Bilawal, balance fifty did not want to lose their shoes for the cause of Kashmir. This political march is not for Kashmir but against Nawaz Sheriff. Pakistanis are always funny within the country or outside. Anyway the British people got some entertainment on a Sunday.
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Oct 27, 2014 02:21pm
@Rahmin
What a silly explanation!
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Oct 27, 2014 02:26pm
@Qaisar
65% who voted in Kashmir elections will not fit in lal chowk.the chowk will hardly accomadate London agitators
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Oct 27, 2014 02:27pm
@Rohan Bannerjee
they must have spent a million rupees to get the supporters
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Oct 27, 2014 02:29pm
@Iqbal Bhai you first read the UN resolutions bhai
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Oct 27, 2014 02:36pm
name it to thousand march :D :D
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Oct 27, 2014 02:38pm
I thought that a million contains six zeros !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oct 27, 2014 02:41pm
This is quoted by indian newspaper
"A high-profile retired Indian diplomat, KC Singh, looked slightly foolish when he suggested that Britain follow the example of UAE which barred Pakistanis from holding protests outside the Indian embassy after the Babri Masjid demolition. Even the critics of the rally thought that asking Britain to emulate what one Pakistani commentator described as a “police state” was a stretch'
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Oct 27, 2014 02:47pm
@ibrahim neither will happen
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Oct 27, 2014 02:56pm
@Akhtar here goes another cry baby
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Oct 27, 2014 02:57pm
@Kabir I agree about verifying sources . Dawn is not as professional as it used to be.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:03pm
Sadly the march has revealed the truth to the world. The presence of only a couple of hunfred people is a clear indication that Kashmiris are quite happy with the status quo.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:06pm
you call few hundred crowd,i tell you what crowd is,Its the 19000 strong force inside Madison Square Garden and many thousand more outside Madison Square Garden and thats what call a magnificent crowd.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:07pm
@Tota Ram Verma You can "bet" on this ? And how you can substantiate this "bet" ? Since you have memorized the resolution, may be you can write to Pakistan Government highlighting your solution ( along with the relevant argument) . Problem solved ! No one can beat Indians when it comes to "betting" , after all !
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Oct 27, 2014 03:10pm
@Akhtar Doesnt matter if they dont want to stay in the Indian Union. The Indian Union wants them to stay. If they have specific problems, please raise it up in a democratic non violent manner and work for solutions. JKLF, HUJI, JeM, LeT, etc etc., will get you nothing. The only thing special about the Kashmiri muslims is that they have not been punished for the ethnic cleansing of Pandits, anywhere else in India, this would not have been allowed to happen.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:15pm
@Shah N. Khan And if Kashmiris decide to remain with India, will Pakistan just accept the verdict and go away peacefully?
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Oct 27, 2014 03:15pm
Despite the article 'talking up' the event' and putting a top spin on, it reveals the truth in the middle somewhere without stating that it was an abysmal failure. Read where it says: "London police tried to take Bilawal Bhutto away from the dais for his safety because of the saboteurs’ violent behaviour, ..." From all accounts it was an embarrassing disaster. And 'Lord' Nazir Ahmed lent his support. He has no accomplishment to his name other than being an economically backward export from our country. He has been accorded a seat in the toothless 'House of Lords' as a token gesture by the Angrezi establishment to show how liberal & accommodating they are.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:34pm
I checked the U.K. newspapers. I did not find any report about the march. I checked the Indian newspapers and they report that the protest ended in a fiasco. Bhutto should know better before participating in a protest like that. He is trying to boost up his political career by these protests. He will not get anywhere. Have a policy/stand on how to improve the ordinary Pakistanis. These gimmicks will not work.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:45pm
What? Are you serious?
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Oct 27, 2014 03:49pm
@raj Indians lying as usual. I was there and there was well in excess of 20,000 people there
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Oct 27, 2014 03:53pm
@AshwinMS Another indian just spreading lies, I was present and the attendance was well in excess of 20,000 people and there were no anti Pakistani slogans. had there been anti Pakistani slogans they would have been widly aired in the indian media. Had there been only a few hundred people the Indian media would have swarmed Trafalgar square with their cameras but they never, now they are just spreading lies, but the world knows that Kashmiris hate Indians, if it was different a plebicite would have been called by India. India refuses a plebicite only as it knows it will lose.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:56pm
@Bhagat Pandey if you are confident that Kashmiris like you, then hold a referendum.
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Oct 27, 2014 03:58pm
@Qaisar. Can the Pak PM have a public meeting in the D Chowk of Islamabad?
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Oct 27, 2014 04:00pm
@amin OK hold the referendum and lets see democracy at work.
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Oct 27, 2014 04:03pm
@Akhtar What about POK? India is helping Kashmiris by protecting the border from infiltration. We can imagine what happens if security forces were removed from the border.
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Oct 27, 2014 04:05pm
But what is the truth? Could Bilawal stay on or was he taken away by the police for his safety?
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Oct 27, 2014 04:05pm
Sharam Karo. Khuda ka Khauff Karo. London gave you the permission and you started showing the typical Pakistani behaviour of throwing eggs and bottles. That is why no one other than Pakistani and Kashmiris joined the march. It was just about thousand people.
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Oct 27, 2014 04:14pm
Million...really???Does Pakistan follows a different metric system
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Oct 27, 2014 04:29pm
How about a march to support the rights of minorities in Pakistan. What is point of worrying about others when people are suffering in your country.
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Oct 27, 2014 04:34pm
Shambles like this just proves to the world why India needs to keep control of Kashmir. Another own goal by Pakistan!
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Oct 27, 2014 04:36pm
Why too late in giving such a great news!
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Oct 27, 2014 04:43pm
@ghanshyam - Wrong. India was meant to be a secular country for all people.
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Oct 27, 2014 04:45pm
LOL..WRONG Information
there were only 100-200 people there...
Thousands were watching football on sunday...Man Utd vs Chelsea
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Oct 27, 2014 04:45pm
This march had nothing to do with Kashmir. It was just a political march between Pakistan political parties to garner attention and publicity. Its just a cat fight which will end up destroying their own country. Besides Kashmir is a part of India and everyone in Kashmir are happy and content and any such march will be futile.
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Oct 27, 2014 04:46pm
@Iqbal Bhai
Have you read UNSC resolutions? Why not do that first. Please read an authentic version, not some fake copy circulating in Pakistan. Please do yourself a favor.
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Oct 27, 2014 04:50pm
@Sher Jatt : 20000 people???? Ok........!!! But Still shortfall of 980,000 people?? :)
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Oct 27, 2014 05:01pm
@Shah N. Khan Yes it will be joint referendum of Pakistan occupied Kashmir and India occupied Kashmir. Both parts will be removed and made a new country? Do you accept this dear hypocrite sir?
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Oct 27, 2014 05:03pm
I really hope that the Kashmir issue is sorted out so families separated can get together and Kashmir becomes economically vibrant!
I am glad that India has a super efficient spy service which somehow made 998,000 people disappear from the rally and had a armory in middle of London where rotten eggs and tomatoes were used in an attempted assassination!!:):)
And,can someone tell me whose flag is that green and yellow ones??:):)
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Oct 27, 2014 05:09pm
How many times did PPP raise the Kashmir issue or took steps to resolve it when they were in power?
PPP have nothing to write home about their tenure in power so now they are raising the Kashmir issue.
Bilalwal or PPP don't care about Kashmir. It's all drama to help Bilawal get attention and become a prime minister candidate.
It's time for both PPP and PML-N to pack their bags and get out. They have badly damaged Pakistan and their cheap tactics will not be fooling anyone.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:12pm
million march ====== 2000 people.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:13pm
i only find 1 person who talks sense in the whole of india n that is aditya tawakkly
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Oct 27, 2014 05:14pm
@Rohan Bannerjee
but the maths for some brainy people is little skewed.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:16pm
another one BITES THE DUST.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:18pm
million march bites the DUST with 2000 people.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:29pm
The event was a huge success. This is the way go.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:29pm
@raja hindustani Ok that is true it was not a million, that was a figure hoped for by the organisers but as I said it was around just over 20,000, the square was full. The issue is not about whether there was 20,000 or a million it was a chance for concerned citizens to speak up for the rights of Kashmiris like me. We do want freedom from India, a fake democracy, we are not Indians and never will be. We are demanding a referendum and by refusing it India is just confirming what the world already knows and that is that India is rejected by all Kashmiris. The long and short is that Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris and not to Gujeratis and Utterpardeshis and Biharis, it is our country and we want freedom.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:35pm
@Aditya Tawakley 65 years of Nehru-gandhi family rule at center sure solved the problem for you.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:36pm
@Akhtar
I appreciate your positive thinking that is for no use.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:54pm
@maulana masood Correctly said bro. unfortunately our leaders are just politicizing the issue more and more, trying to get something out of it, not trying to resolve the issue. Instead of making such kind of comments, Mr. Bhutto might have showed some options to resolving internal issues. He might have addressed internal issues first, rather than other issues.
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Oct 27, 2014 06:01pm
Its really heartening to see that Pakistan earning so much bad name at world stage. Days are not far when everything will finish. I request the nation to work towards eradicating poverty and prosperity. Indian politicians really double standard people but pakistani politicians are miles Ahead.
At least - in India certain section of people thinking towards development and doing development centric politics which is saving us....and which will be going to sustain.
For GOD sake wake up Pakistan --Wake up...prevent making your beautiful country Iran, Iraq , Somalia or Afganistan
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Oct 27, 2014 06:13pm
@AshwinMS Thank you for your disinformation. The number was enough to flash headlines all over the world and highlight the Kashmir issue. It was a great show despite Indian efforts to sabotage it. Well done Bilawal.
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Oct 27, 2014 06:19pm
it was a flop. worst thing was that people were from Punjab, Pakistan. Hardly a Kashmiri affair!
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Oct 27, 2014 06:23pm
perhaps it is the end of feudal dynastic politics in Pakistan.
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Oct 27, 2014 06:34pm
Though Bilawal's presence marred the occasion, it was still a good idea and should be repeated in all western capitals frequently.
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Oct 27, 2014 07:12pm
Well there be such march in the US? I'd like to participate.
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Oct 27, 2014 07:13pm
Kashmir is a lost cause. Only 650 people as per BBC count showed up.
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Oct 27, 2014 07:35pm
@Ahmer "Though Bilawal's presence marred the occasion, it was still a good idea and should be repeated in all western capitals frequently."
Aur bezatti kar walo. Let us first earn some credibility. At the moment, no one wants to talk to us (and we all know it inside in our heart).
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Oct 27, 2014 07:41pm
How did they support Kashmir's cause by shouting 'Go Nawaz, GO!'?
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Oct 27, 2014 07:50pm
New math. One Pakistani = 1000 humans. 1000 Pakistanis = One million!
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Oct 27, 2014 07:58pm
@Sher Jatt oh mere veer!! See the videos of the protest no more than 1000 people came out! I guess it was because of those Indian agents that ruined it, Pakistan must protest in the UN, and write a letter to Ban ki moon right away!!
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Oct 27, 2014 08:01pm
The real report is that about 1500-2000 people turned up for the show. And in the middle of teh speech, Bilawal was pelted with eggs and plastic bottles and the British police had to escort Bilawal from the stage...
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Oct 27, 2014 08:09pm
Londonistan struggling against jihadis.
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Oct 27, 2014 08:11pm
It was sad to see the events in the march.
First of all, it does not matter to India whether 1000 or 100,000 people show up in such protests. At the risk of sounding boastful, I feel Pakistani protesters underestimate the position of India in today's global political and economic situation. There's no way any such protest will have any influence. It is similar to thinking 'free Tibet' protest in Europe will put pressure on china.
At best, such efforts are childish, however they are more likely to serve domestic political needs of some Pakistani leaders. About time that the Pakistani masses realise this and push their leaders for measures that help Kashmir situation - talks with India.
Overall, the protests and the disruptions there show Pakistanis, and possibly subcontinent people, in poor light - ignorant, lacking clarity of purpose and of course lacking unity.
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Oct 27, 2014 08:29pm
Just notice the no of likes on Mr Raj's comments and you will know how much India and Indians are obsessed with Pakistan and Kashmir. Any comment belittling the crowd is getting huge number of likes, this tells the story.
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Oct 27, 2014 08:47pm
@raj If Kashmir has become irrelevant to India then why not allow the Kashmiris to decide their fate of their own
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Oct 27, 2014 08:50pm
@Bhagat Pandey Let the Kashmiris decide their fate why the India is so adamant and applying every tactics to oppress the will of Kashmiris
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Oct 27, 2014 08:53pm
If the show was a flop then why so many Indians are so concerned about it and why they have posted their comments in such a large number ?
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Oct 27, 2014 09:47pm
as a uk Pakistan, I didn't even know about it! I may have gone had I known.
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Oct 28, 2014 12:02am
@JackDomm
PTI and IK are damaging Pakistan's economy by post election rallies and dhernas. :)
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Oct 28, 2014 02:10am
Sneaking in BBZ from the backdoor at #KashmirMillionMarch rally in London was most unfortunate political opportunism. Barrister Sultan Mahmood Chaudhry spoiled all his hard work and unity within diverse political spectrum. What a shame! Don't know when these Kashmiri leaders realise their own full potential; leave Pakistani crunches aside and stand up independently and lead the movement for right of self-determination for the people in all the regions of Jammu and Kashmir.
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Oct 28, 2014 02:31am
@Paki yes it too good, it shows pakistan his place by them !!
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Oct 28, 2014 05:30am
Is this the famous London match ... Bilawal you are a joke....err
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Oct 28, 2014 08:46am
Pakistan can not get Kashmir without NUC application. UNO never going to salve this problem.
Pakistan can not stop India shelling on border line, how Pakistan is capable to get Kashmir. Keep kissing your NUC. Shaheed Bhutto, BB Shaheed could not get Kashmir, how Balawal is going to get it.
At this time Kashmir issue and India firing at Sialkot border, seems friendly and artificially...PTI.
Balawal if hangs seedah or ulta to Shebaz, I will consoider him Bhutto otherwise only Zardari.
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Oct 28, 2014 08:53am
@Ali "The event was a huge success. This is the way go."
Looks like you guys have lowered the bar for success. Far far low...
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Oct 28, 2014 09:26am
And so the Indian trolling begins ..... disinformation obsession with all things Pakistan!
BTW - there were more than 5000 in attendance according to Al Jazeera, so all you brainiacs who can count, try counting the crowds if can.. and not make up falsified rumors.
I do agree though that Bila Babu shouldn't have attended this rally .. who would've guessed he's even unpopular in merry London?
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Oct 28, 2014 09:56am
@Sher Jatt
Lets do the same in Baluchistan and Sindh, then we tell India too.
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Oct 28, 2014 10:24am
Completely flop show..
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Oct 28, 2014 10:58am
@Sher Jatt
It is time for you learn how to count mate.
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Oct 28, 2014 11:14am
@Paki Really a huge march of 400 people
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Oct 28, 2014 12:13pm
@AYZA please
Please provide reference to Al Jazeera stating that 5000 people attended the March.
In any case a million is ten lakh not 5 thousand.
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Oct 28, 2014 12:59pm
@Akbaruddin ,May be they were not sure of the number of zeros in a million!!!!!!!!
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Oct 28, 2014 01:07pm
Till Kashmiri leaders come out from the lap of Pakistani political leaders and Pakistani Army, they never get any attention. Please fight your Kashmir fight alone. Than only world can hear you....
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Oct 28, 2014 01:07pm
March or April, pakistan's dream will remain a pipedream
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Oct 28, 2014 01:33pm
I expected the most trusted and reputed magazine like dawn to spare an editorial coverage on this Million Men March which is reported to be a Thousand Men March and which is in fact a few Hundred Men March on ground Zero.I don't want to discuss how genuine the demand is, but at least the people who sponsored this incredible march have not taken their job so serious. I really expected a bigger crowd and I think even the reporter reported a bigger crowd than it really appeared, if the reports and video footage are to be believed.
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Oct 28, 2014 02:18pm
Good to know that Bilawal single handedly fought on despite Indian James Bonds throwing missiles at him... good show..
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Oct 28, 2014 03:01pm
Didn't expected this from Dawn. Stop fooling Pakistani common people. Please read international news papers to know the Hal of Shame of Bilawal pelted with bottles by 2-3hundred people crowd raising anti Pakistan slogans.
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Oct 28, 2014 06:15pm
What will Pakistan do next to internationalise Kashmir after series of failures namely firing on LoC, plea for mediation from UN and 'Million March' ?
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Oct 28, 2014 06:26pm
@Ahmed Khan I was at the Trafalgar Square on Sunday evening & watched London cleaning workers cleanng the square.The place was full with trash and wondering how few hundred people were able to throw litter allover the place.
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Oct 28, 2014 07:25pm
@Vishnu
Vishnu if there were only a few hundred people whom no one listens, then why you people are obsessed with this event.
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Oct 28, 2014 11:56pm
Keep on marching as your marches will achieve nothing. You have been marching for decades.
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Oct 29, 2014 05:09am
@zak the supreme
correction with 300 people
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Oct 29, 2014 12:49pm
@kabir Indians have posted their comments in so many numbers because we will not allow you to post false information. You have done that since many years but in this age of internet that will not be possible now.
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Oct 29, 2014 01:49pm
Biliwal Zadari is an opportunist who believes in nothing. Shame on PPP trying to hijack this great move. They live in denial by claiming it was agents of India. The truth is no one likes him and his party for thugs and in joining in with the government coalition of the corrupt.
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Oct 29, 2014 06:16pm
@Shamsher Singh Bajwa I do not need to see the video as I was present from 11.30 until 16.00 myself and witnessed the people there. I do not know why the Indian media denies the truth to you. Also taking a snapshot of one area of the square is not proof of anything. Like I said if India is confident that they are right and we are wrong hold a referendum and let the people decide and lets see the results. This is the only honest and fair solution and end to the conflict.
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Oct 29, 2014 06:30pm
Embarrassing shambles!
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Oct 29, 2014 06:31pm
The world is laughing at us!
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Oct 29, 2014 07:28pm
Honestly..I want to ask fellow Pakistani folks a few questions.
1. Bilawal was in India for a stunt show..what makes you think that he is serious about the people in Kashmir?
2. If people in Pakistan are serious about Kashmir..let's talk about POK and IK and support an independent country?
3. Don't you think it is hypocritical when people in Balochistan are asking for independence and Pakistanis are supporting kashmiris?
ALL THIS IS POLITICAL DRAMA AT BEST. Both nations will gain nothing from the Kashmir issue and should focus on developing the countries from within.
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Oct 30, 2014 01:04am
My ancestors fled from the oppressive, brutal regimes of days past, both contesting parties should first endeavour to provide human rights and security of freedoms for all Kashmiris of any religion, provide for them the means of unification. allow them freedom from both India and Pakistan.
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Oct 30, 2014 07:41am
@Warrior Bin Qasim Actually the news itself is sarcastic, You see a million March attended by few hundred and the agenda sabotaged by BBZ and then blamed on "Indian Agents" where there were none.
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Oct 30, 2014 09:39am
LAVAANGE...LAVAANGE ... what... absurd thoughts strike the mind... Bilawals sojourn with Khar...
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