Delhi’s Shahi Imam invites Nawaz, shuns Modi for son’s anointment
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NEW DELHI: Syed Ahmed Bukhari, the Shahi Imam of Delhi’s Jama Masjid, on Thursday invited Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif for his son’s appointment as the next chief cleric, but excluded Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi from the guest list, the Times of India reported.
Bukhari did however invite four Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leaders, including two ministers.
"We have invited the prime minister of Pakistan as we have had relations with him since my father's time, unlike with Modi, whom we have not invited," the paper reported Bukhari as saying.
"Modi has not done anything for Indian Muslims even after coming to power. Indian Muslims have not forgiven him for the 2002 Gujarat riots," Bukhari said, referring to the 2002 riots in Gujarat in which at least 1,000 Muslims were killed.
"Modi has not even apologised (for the riots) and reached out to the Muslims," he said.
"We have also invited Congress president Sonia Gandhi and her son Rahul Gandhi along with Vice President Hamid Ansari," said Bukhari.
The anointment of Bukhari’s son, 19-year-old Shaban,is expected to take place on November 22, while guests have been invited for a dinner on November 29.
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Oct 30, 2014 10:37pm
The Imam without a kingdom, desperate to be noticed!
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Oct 30, 2014 10:39pm
Well done. Brave people still exist
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Oct 30, 2014 10:40pm
As an Indian, we view it as his personal choice to whomsoever he wants to invite, he is not holding any official post he just a head of a mosque.
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Oct 30, 2014 10:41pm
In india also now religion is politicising. Shahi imam called all Muslims to vote for congress only before general elections. Again this is a political step. This is for sure a bad step for democracy.
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Oct 30, 2014 10:42pm
He should understand that congress which ruled for more than 50 years kept Muslims suppressed to use as vote bank.
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Oct 30, 2014 10:45pm
What difference it make if Modi is there or not. Indian muslims live in doldrums like sikhs.
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Oct 30, 2014 10:46pm
Modi has done nothing to show the Muslims of India that he was sorry for past mistakes. In fact he has shown his true colours by causing trouble with his Pakistani neighbours.
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Oct 30, 2014 10:48pm
The Shahi Imam's son's appointment is a trivial issue for any government- even Pakistan's.
The truth is that the Indian PM declined his invitation. Miffed by this he is doing this publicity stunt. The other truth is that even NS will decline the invitation. NS would not want to anger Modi for this silly ceremony.
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Oct 30, 2014 10:48pm
Mere politics!
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Oct 30, 2014 10:51pm
This mulla thinks that he has an audacity to openly snub the head of the nation! Surely it is going to backfire on him and after that he will play a victim, as usual.
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Oct 30, 2014 10:53pm
Modi doesnt have time to entertain self proclaimed religious leaders like Mr. Bukhari.
A mandate by the people of INDIA and a clearance by the court is more than enough..He is no one to speak on the behalf of Indian muslims..
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Oct 30, 2014 10:54pm
Go Nawaz Go
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Oct 30, 2014 10:56pm
What are the professional qualifications of the 19-years old son to become the chief cleric of this important religious institution? Dynastic principle?
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Oct 30, 2014 10:58pm
As per Shahi Imam, Mr. Modi has not done anything for Indian muslims. Could he shed some light what Mr. Nawaz Sharif has done for Indian muslims. I suppose the so called Shahi Imam wants to be in news to remain vaild in the new changing Indian society.
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Oct 30, 2014 11:02pm
@Sierrabrave
Must be PTI supporter!
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Oct 30, 2014 11:05pm
@Johar
You know the meaning of "brave", I suppose?
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Oct 30, 2014 11:06pm
Who elects cleric chief? Is it dynastic?
Appears to be politically motivated but he has right to do whatever he feels like within the law of the land.
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Oct 30, 2014 11:09pm
Shame on Modi. He is a war criminal who has the blood of thousands of Muslims on his hands and yet he heads the nation. This man is the butcher of Gujrat. The Shahi Imam is a religious leader but he has the right to shun Modi and to invite Mian Sahab.
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Oct 30, 2014 11:09pm
@Sierrabrave You will not understand about his kingdom. 60 crores from the subcontinent likes him.
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Oct 30, 2014 11:18pm
Modi will now go hungry.
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Oct 30, 2014 11:20pm
@Kabir Sidhu, Sikhs in India live very well. There are enough statistics available showing well being of Sikhs regarding per capita income, education, sports, military service, politics, and media.
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Oct 30, 2014 11:21pm
Well done. India needs to shun electing terrorists as their PM. What a shame for the biggest "democracy"!
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Oct 30, 2014 11:22pm
Good job Imam sahib. The blood of the innocent 1000 that were massacred under Modi's watch should not be forgotten.
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Oct 30, 2014 11:25pm
this guy is a known publicity seeker back in 2003 he backed bjp vajpyee govt & bjp lost,this year he backed congress & they lost,he himself made a party & it also lost election,everyone know he is bad bet so he try to seek attention with such statements to remain relevant know & then
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Oct 30, 2014 11:32pm
invite obama also.There is no payment for inviting anyone...
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Oct 30, 2014 11:34pm
@Kabir Sidhu : Sikhs live in doldrums in India ? Sikhs are known to be industrious and one of the well off communities in India.
This likening to Muslims doesn't hold true in any respect as they occupy much better educated and occupy positions in all of the social spheres in India.
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Oct 30, 2014 11:34pm
@Kabir Sidhu Self made, no reasons to blame others!
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Oct 30, 2014 11:42pm
Good slap on Modi's face. Every Indian Muslim should be proud of Shahi Imam.
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Oct 30, 2014 11:44pm
Nawaz should definitely go and attend the ceremony to show solidarity with Indian Muslims.
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Oct 30, 2014 11:47pm
It is absolutely true that Modi has done nothing for Indian Muslims. Has Nawaz done anything for Pakistani Muslims?
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Oct 30, 2014 11:52pm
@Ahmer It is like Modi really wanted to go!!!
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Oct 30, 2014 11:52pm
Hope Nawaz Sharif accepts invitation and attends it!!!!. Sonia and Rahul too could give him company
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Oct 30, 2014 11:52pm
@Kabir Sidhu please read national family health survey report of India according to it Sikhs are most prosperous communities of India with Jains and Parsis...
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Oct 30, 2014 11:53pm
Good to know that as an Indian Muslim he clearly showed where his priorities lie. People should then not wonder why muslims are viewed with suspicion everywhere.
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Oct 31, 2014 12:01am
This can happen only in india and then we are called intolerant!!
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Oct 31, 2014 12:09am
well done Mr., Bukhari. At least someone is shedding light on Muslims plight in India.
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Oct 31, 2014 12:12am
Modi has more important things to do ...
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Oct 31, 2014 12:26am
Just goes on to show the freedom enjoyed by Indian Muslims as guaranteed under a secular constitution.Can a minority person think of doing this in Pakistan??
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Oct 31, 2014 12:28am
@Akhtar His past mistakes include not elaborating on the steps he took and didn't take in the riots. Now he is working for India as a whole, not catering to a specific culture, religion, or ethnicity. If he helps India, he helps Indian Muslims.
Anyways, the Imam can invite whoever he wants. It is his private event.
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Oct 31, 2014 12:29am
Why is the imam expecting special treatment for muslim community? Shouldn't the PM treat every religious community equally? No other religious head in India expects any kind of special treatment for his/her community. Why Bukhari thinks that he(or his community) is 'more equal than others'? However, I don't think Mr. Modi is losing any sleep over the matter :)
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Oct 31, 2014 12:30am
The Imams is having a private party and has invited guests of his party.
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Oct 31, 2014 12:31am
@Sarabjeet Singh, if that were true the trials would have resulted with him in jail
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Oct 31, 2014 12:33am
It is more likely that it is Modi who shunned the Imam rather than the other way round. Imam invited Nawaz, a Modi lackey, why can't he invite Modi himself?
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Oct 31, 2014 12:34am
He invited Nawaz because both he and Nawaz are of the same mentality.
Both like to be badshahat and have their children preferred for positions ignoring a million others deserving and highly capable.
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Oct 31, 2014 12:35am
@Human;
" This is for sure a bad step for democracy."
If your democracy depends on someone not exercising their rights, it is your democracy that is bad.
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Oct 31, 2014 12:36am
That shows greatness of India. India's freedom and liberty.
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Oct 31, 2014 12:40am
he is trying to isolate indian muslims for his own interest and if gets scceed to fool 1% muslims in india than it is unfortunat for future for muslims in india
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Oct 31, 2014 12:47am
It does surprise me to some extent that the Imam could find no on better than his son?? His son better be good. I am not sure how you measure the goodness of one in such position where you cannot question them without a riot!!!
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Oct 31, 2014 12:54am
@Johar Imam has righto choose his invitees, as this is a private function; but, he can only invite Pak PM; whether his flight will land in India or not is not in his hands
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Oct 31, 2014 01:01am
@Manu wow what a great analysis from you. he's already going.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:02am
@dr carla what does? Liberty to invite or disinvite? lol.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:15am
@Akhtar -- Modi says he has not committed any mistake. Despite every body including the Federal government and all parties vying for his head made a campaign to malign and prove him guilty but failed to do so in any court of law over a period of 12 years . continuous Propaganda did change the minds of many including yours.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:33am
@Calcutta Man - i suppose u dont.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:34am
Who is he to speak on behalf of whole indian muslims. He might called himself as shahi Imam but there is no 'shahi' about him. There is nothing 'shahi' is in democracy; everyone r equal & no one is baadshah or gulam.
Moreover, he is asking what modi did for indian muslims. Can he tell us what have 'he' done for Indian muslims or even delhi muslims where he is imam..!!!
His political connection is well known. This is just a political move rather than anything else. We should not give much importance than he deserve.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:45am
@Akhtar , no problem . It is personal celebration program so modi doesn't have any issue of invitation. Bukhari is puppet of congress and he gave statements in favour of congress before general election . Results is on board what happened after bukhari statement. Congress has lost his election . Modi has always said that he would be work for whole humanity not for single community in India. There are various community which have very weak and power comparative to muslim . But any politicians don't give any statement favour of them .
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Oct 31, 2014 01:46am
Nawaz Shared should not attend this trivial event and avoid getting involved in Indian politics. I have never heard that mosque. have heirs too like Gaddis nasheens. This ceremony is not appropriate to be attended by a foreign govt head.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:52am
A19 year old kid being made the chief cleric. Let me guess, he must be a hafiz and a graduate of some madressah where he earned his certificate through rote memorization, and is now called a scholar of Islam!
I suggest an overhaul of the religious seminaries where students are forced to learn modern sciences, informed about modern methods in research, and where reasoning, critical thinking and analysis are emphasized over memorization.
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Oct 31, 2014 02:03am
Does this ceremony or function has anything to do with Islam?
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Oct 31, 2014 02:06am
As this is his personal choice, there is nothing wrong and nobody should feel hurt or betrayed... he is still very much part of India and is an Indian just like me.
He has right to express his opinion and if he is not happy with the Prime Minister, then that's that! More power to him and best wishes for the ceremony...
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Oct 31, 2014 02:24am
I am sure Nawaz Sharif will not go. He will not interfere with Indian politics. He is more friendly with N Modi than Imam Sahib. NS business interest are at stake if he goes. Imam sahib should know Sumunder may rahna aur magarmuch say bair.
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Oct 31, 2014 02:27am
Humanity is Bleeding and they are blowing the Trumpet of Religion.
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Oct 31, 2014 02:28am
@Birbal Singh for that you should thank Canada and UK
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Oct 31, 2014 02:31am
@Anupam and yet Kashmiri students were expelled for supporting Pakistan cricket team
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Oct 31, 2014 02:35am
Who cares?
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Oct 31, 2014 02:38am
It's pure politics. I don't think Pak PM is so much free to come to his son b'day (or anointment) party? And Imam sa'ab know this very well but still he intentionally did so to give message to indian muslims that he is their real well wisher. Next step: I bet, he is going to join active politics & contest election after taking retirement from shahi imam.
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Oct 31, 2014 02:53am
@Saurabh Kaushik What has the Imam done for the Muslims?
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Oct 31, 2014 03:11am
@Saurabh Kaushik
What has this Imam has done for Indian Muslim?
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Oct 31, 2014 03:11am
What a great honor for Nawaz to get an invitation from an Imam. As for Modi, he must have been heartbroken
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Oct 31, 2014 03:22am
@Anupam haha Anupam. You have clearly never been in Pakistan. No one, no matter what religion church, mosque or temple, would like to invite the present PM in the present scenario.
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Oct 31, 2014 03:22am
Thank u mr. Imam. after all we have done in the name of secularism, this is your return gift.
One thing is sure, this thing has deteriorated your image. and most Indian Muslims will disagree with your act.
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Oct 31, 2014 03:23am
Modi has done more for Indian muslim than what Sharif has done for Pakistani Hindus. And to those criticizing Modi that he is Anti-muslim, he is more pro-muslim than Pakistan PM is. The bottom line is, you muslims, everywhere, are your own worst enemies.
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Oct 31, 2014 03:24am
@raja hindustani
He is free, he will come. he is not doing any thing in Pakistan except looting money. Please keep him in India.We will be very thankful.
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Oct 31, 2014 03:25am
This man should work on writing better khutbas/sermons for Friday prayers as a didactic service to elevate the status of Indian Muslims and leave politics to dirty politicians.
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Oct 31, 2014 03:33am
Petty Muslims of the subcontinent refuse to grow up.
@ Armani
Indeed, humanity is bleeding and it is because of people like the Imam.
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Oct 31, 2014 03:33am
@welt
he dont represent whole indian muslim community.
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Oct 31, 2014 03:37am
@Saurabh Kaushik
modi has not done anything for HIndus, Sikhs, Jains etc either..
he is working for India and Indians not for any religion..
But, these things are beyond understanding of this man..
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Oct 31, 2014 03:38am
@Kabir Sidhu
kuch b bolte rahte hain log..
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Oct 31, 2014 03:41am
@Mustafa
passing his imam-ship to his son is non-democratic and also non-islamic.
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Oct 31, 2014 03:49am
Mr.Bukhari is anointing his son and the post is not merit based. Now, look at the guest list. Sonia Gandhi, Nawaz sharif - top proponents of dynasty politics, so Narendra Modi clealy doesn't fit here.
Finally, Mr.Bukhari, what's your role in the progress of Indian Muslims ? What have you done for them ?
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Oct 31, 2014 04:11am
Bukhari should also be invited by pakistan prime minister.he may not go though due to security issues
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Oct 31, 2014 04:37am
@Sarabjeet Singh Why are you using Hindu name. There has not been any riots since 2002 while Congress run states like UP had many. Give credit to Modi for keeping lid on communalism
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Oct 31, 2014 04:43am
@Sarabjeet Singh How many millions blood was shed by:Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Jinnah for their whims? You were not even born their, and I saw the first blow of a sword with innocent eyes of an 8 year old boy And right in the Gurus' nagari Amritsar. Now the facts then say some thing. God gave us one mouth and two eyes for reason
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Oct 31, 2014 05:26am
This is the main problem with muslims, they see everything through "muslim prizm". A PM of a democratic country like India cannot and should not work for or favor a particular community. I haven't seen any mention of religious preference in any job advertisements/postings.
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Oct 31, 2014 05:33am
Friends like friends
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Oct 31, 2014 05:38am
Indian PM has no time for low lives. I see comments asking what has Modi done for Indian Muslims, what has Nawaz Sharif done for Pakistani Muslims, can I ask what is the contribution of Muslims to this world?
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Oct 31, 2014 06:00am
Negative thoughts and actions normally adversely affect an individual for a long time.
The Imam himself will know whether with this spitefull action he finds peace with himself or loses peace of his mind.
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Oct 31, 2014 06:02am
@youth
How do you know. Did you poll the 60 crore people?
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Oct 31, 2014 06:02am
It's a free country
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Oct 31, 2014 06:03am
Modi is doing commendable job for Indians. Hope all Indians do understand and appreciate his initiatives. Mr. Bukhari with all his followers as Indians shall also contribute in the growth process. To start with, Mr. Bukhari with all his followers can participate in nationwide cleanliness drive that Modi initiated.
In India, every citizens have equal rights irrespective of their religions. It is strange that people think only Muslims in India are poor, oppressed and living in worst conditions and Modi is responsible for all this. Hope Modi's actions/strategies bring growth in India and bring prosperity to Indians.
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Oct 31, 2014 06:08am
As if Mr. Nawaj Sharif has better record of taking care of Muslims in India or can take care of and he is taking care of Hindus in Pakistan.
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Oct 31, 2014 06:12am
Publicity Stunt. This goes to also show how secular India is, I really cant imagine a Hindu giving similar statement in Pakistan and still coming out alive. Modi has been given clean chit by CBI too, still these fools are jealous and are losing to Modi. Its these kind of people who are mis guiding Muslims of India and trying to divide the country based on religion.
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Oct 31, 2014 06:12am
On the other side of the fence grass always looks green. What kind of track record Mr. Nawaj has?
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Oct 31, 2014 06:15am
He even can not win a local election in same area where jama mashjid is located
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Oct 31, 2014 06:23am
At least Shahi Imam in India can do this ... Snub Indian PM and invite PM of Pakistan.
Try doing that in Pakistan where a Hindu/Christian/Shikh religious leader snub Pakistani leader and invite someone from India!
Need I say more?
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Oct 31, 2014 06:57am
This is the beauty of Indian democracy. An Indian is free to settle his/her scores in a democratic way.
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Oct 31, 2014 06:59am
This is one brave guy standing upto a Bully.
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Oct 31, 2014 07:06am
@Akhtar Dear Akhtar, Modi is the only person who sent his own people to jail after 2002 riot. Even ministers were not spared. And that is the only reason Gujarat which was infamous for Hindu-Muslim riot witnessed a single incident after 2002. Congress has never sent any of its leaders to jail for rioting forget about ministers. I think Modi has consciously chose not to have a "Muslim appeasement" image otherwise how long it takes now a days for an image make over????
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Oct 31, 2014 07:09am
Does Modi really care .
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Oct 31, 2014 07:14am
Notthing wrong , it is his occasion he can invite whomever he want. But that does not decrease Modi's popularity even by .00001 %
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Oct 31, 2014 07:16am
@Saurabh Kaushik also if he would shed something on muslim killing muslim in Pakistan
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Oct 31, 2014 07:30am
@Ahmer its a good slap on pakistan face in india no muslims even hear about shahi imam words he just a propogenda man thats all
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Oct 31, 2014 07:35am
Modi can reject Nawaz Sharif's Visa to India
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Oct 31, 2014 07:36am
bukhari was one of the reasons people of India , did not vote for congress and chose Modi. His statements stems from that episode. It's natural and well understood.
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Oct 31, 2014 08:09am
It will be good for mending relations between the two countries if Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif accepts the invitation for attending the ceremony and goes to India.
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Oct 31, 2014 08:26am
Modi or any PM should do good for India and all Indians. If some people want "favors" because they are muslim or some other religion that is demented. Contribute to the society without discrimination and you will be lifted up in the society you live in. If you want a free ride because you call yourself something is against the universe's law. Nothing is free in the world no matter how you identify yourself. It is about action and contribution. What has Imam done for his son, did not even give him a full education. Throwing him into politics at age of 19.
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Oct 31, 2014 08:31am
I doubt Modi cares
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Oct 31, 2014 08:40am
@kck And your type of people were oppsing the visit of Sharif when he was invited by Modi
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Oct 31, 2014 08:44am
Did any one see the news coverage of Modi and the nation celebrating unity day to commemorate Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel 's birth anniversary ? How united and happy we as a nation are ! This is what is happening in India . Now you may continue to pin point negative about us . Needle in haystack ..........
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Oct 31, 2014 09:01am
Neither will attend.
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Oct 31, 2014 09:03am
This Shahi Imam is the same guy who called Shabana Azmi a "nachne waali aurat". So much for his judgment and holy background or whatever.
But ofcourse this is too juicy a story to pass by for any media outlet including Dawn
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Oct 31, 2014 09:08am
The difference between Modi and Sharif is that even Modi's worst enemies have not said he is corrupt and about Sharif even his best friends have not said he is honest.
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Oct 31, 2014 09:20am
Would Modi have gone for this event , if invited or will Nawaz Sharif will go- so useless sensationalism.
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Oct 31, 2014 09:33am
@johar call him to pak where all brave people resides. He can spend time with NS. Bukhari is congress men .
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Oct 31, 2014 09:33am
@mustafa: sorry brother, but he's not exercising his rights. He don't have any rights to instruct all muslims to vote for a party that favours him. This mixing of religious extremism with politics is a curse to pakistan. And with due respect to your views, I still know it's a bad step for a democracy where all religions and faith are to considered equal. That is our democracy.
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Oct 31, 2014 09:38am
@Human when a democracy becomes a vampire of for a particular portion of society then that party should seek shelter under political process
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Oct 31, 2014 09:40am
@Akhtar you are right. india is esclating its militry might against pakistan just because modhi in office now
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Oct 31, 2014 09:43am
please note that, he has the freedom to do so...India respects every individuals choice, may be you should see this as an example...he wil not be vilified nor banned, he can do as he likes....
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Oct 31, 2014 09:44am
And I didn't hear even a single prominent Muslim in India who's taking Imam's side on his recent try to gain publicity.
Nor his recent call to all Muslims to vote for Congress was taken seriously.
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Oct 31, 2014 10:43am
Take him into pakistan. indian muslims dont need him.
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Oct 31, 2014 11:48am
After reading the head lines for invitation to PM, immediatly came to my mind "Go Nawaz Go".
It was for accetpting the invitation. But the statement somehow sounds so familiar.
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Oct 31, 2014 11:51am
@Ahmer do u think he got a majority without the muslim votes, its not like pak, where u get ur elections rigged...fyi
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Oct 31, 2014 12:06pm
glad, please separate religion from politics. He says didn't invite Modi because Modi didn't do anything for muslims. It seems he invited those who seemed profitable for his cause. He is not that prominent personality that his invitation or no-invitation should make news.
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Oct 31, 2014 12:16pm
@Ahmer not true - only few sunni muslims in India support Shahi Imam and not all Indian muslims.
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Oct 31, 2014 12:17pm
@Abrar-ul-Haque not at all
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Oct 31, 2014 12:30pm
I wonder if Bukhari Sahib did the right thing. Criticizing Modi is what he truly deserves but inviting a Pakistan's PM may spread hatred for muslims all around. He should have been more diplomatic in dealing the situation for the well being of indian muslims.
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Oct 31, 2014 12:32pm
Once Modi created flutters by inviting Nawaz during his ceremony, now an Imam creating problem for Nawaz for his son's ceremony ... question for Nawaz would be to go or not to go!!!
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Oct 31, 2014 01:12pm
It is essential for Nawaz to go to convey a subtle message of moral, diplomatic and political support to our Indian brothers whenever they need it.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:41pm
In todays date .. no any two other religions fight with each other for religious fight to take place
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Oct 31, 2014 03:48pm
If Syed Ahmed Bukhari is so against Mr. Modi and really thinks that Mr. Modi is Anti-Muslims why don't he shift himself to Pakistan where his brothers and sisters live 'happily'??
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Oct 31, 2014 04:49pm
@Kabir Sidhu and what about Hindu and Sikhs living in Pakistan
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Oct 31, 2014 05:12pm
@Guruji : Sardar Patel is not a person to be proud of. Sardar patel, once said that we should keep some Muslims in India, so that Pakistan will have to be nice with its Hindu Minority. It is because of sardar patel that we have a kashmir issue. If Nehru's hands were not tied by sardar patel, the kashmir issue would have been solved half a century ago.
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Oct 31, 2014 05:20pm
This can happen only in India!
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Oct 31, 2014 08:16pm
India has rejected monarchy, Princely states & privy purses have been abolished.Got rid of Jamindari system.Untouchability is a crime.And this gentleman is crowning his son in these modern days.Whether his son deserves this position& whether system of crowning is fair or democratic should have been point of discussion.
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Oct 31, 2014 09:18pm
I think Nawaz Sharif should not go to this anointment but then again it seems like his family type democracy so I would not be surprised if he turns up. Most Imams think it is their right to make a member of their family the next head. Very shameful indeed to hide behind religion.
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Oct 31, 2014 10:05pm
The Constitution of India gives Imam Bukhari freedom of following his religion. But he mixes religion with politics. In my opinion, it is an attempt to violate the secular aspects of the Constitution.
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Oct 31, 2014 10:46pm
Finally this poor imam is once again managed to grab media attention after a long time. Last time he got media bite during general election when he asked Muslims of India to vote for Congress and Congress party faced its worst ever election performance in the history.
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Oct 31, 2014 11:35pm
This cleric will not only loose his reputations in non-muslim community, but also in muslim community. He is playing politics.
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Nov 01, 2014 12:10am
@Kabir Sidhu Sikhs living in doldrums, really? So all the Porsches and Mercedes and BMWs in Punjab and especially Ludhiana are indicative of Sikhs living in doldrums??????
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Nov 01, 2014 04:02am
@Indian Sikhs are doing very well all over the world.
Forty years ago, Didar Singh Bains came to American with $8 in his pocket with the belief that money grows on trees. He was right.
Bains was a young "jat" - A Sikh farmer from the Indian state of Punjab, where farming is next to godliness. He took one whiff of the prime Columbian loam lining the fields of Sutter County and figured he'd found paradise.
Driving tractors and irrigating orchards for 75 cents an hour, he did the work of four men, and soon bought his first peach orchard. He bought another, then another, and by 1978, had become the largest peach grower in California.
Source: Internet
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Nov 01, 2014 07:31am
The Shahi Imam of the Jama Masjid of Delhi is back in the news. And as usual, for all the wrong reasons. Syed Ahmed Bukhari is anointing his successor to the title of the Shahi Imam, a title his family has for generations bestowed upon itself. And no points for guessing - it's his son.
Parading himself as the caretaker and leader of Indian Muslims is Mr Bukhari's favourite pastime. And it has been proven time and again that Mr Bukhari holds no sway over the Muslim population of the country.
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Nov 01, 2014 08:29am
@Ahmer :
Don't think Nawaz will get Indian visa to travel to New Delhi. Ha Ha Ha!
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Nov 01, 2014 08:32am
@Manu Actually this imam and NS have close familial acquaintance.He is only inviting people whom he knows very well. No politics involved here.
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Nov 01, 2014 08:33am
@Ahmer I agree with you that Nawaz should show support and attend. My worst fear is if Modi sneaks to Balochistan somehow. I fear he will ensure that it gets what Blocks are looking for with his support.
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Nov 01, 2014 08:34am
@welt Glad to see that you validated the point that Quaid e Azam stressed for creation of Pakistan.
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Nov 01, 2014 09:29am
They get what they deserve.
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Nov 01, 2014 09:35am
This is called vibrant democracy
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Nov 01, 2014 09:37am
@Indian
Yep, once while traveling in train i spoke with a central Indian Guy who was challenged by a Sikh by giving him a 5Rs coin and asked him to give it to any Sikh beggar 10 yrs back. He was still searching for one and i told him to go and give it to Sri Manmohan Singh.
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Nov 01, 2014 09:49am
Can you imagine this happening in Pakistan? He would have been dead before even the news report got out.
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Nov 01, 2014 09:50am
Everyone who criticizes Modi should remember that he is a democratically elected PM whereas the Imam is not. Navaz may attend in order to create a divide in India . Those who say that Modi had done nothing for Muslims should bear in mind that Modi's welfare measures can be enjoyed by all citizens alike. Please remember that India is a secular country and there is no need to appease any particular community. It is people like Imam who misleads and betrays the Muslim community in India. Pakistanis (and Muslims in Muslim countries)should first learn to treat all communities with equal respect before criticizing Indian PM.
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Nov 01, 2014 11:39am
Syed Ahmed Bukhari,the Imam of Jama Masjid in New Delhi is non-existent identity as he does not represent even a miniscule of people of a great nation, India.As far as not inviting the PM of India, shows his political nature. Bukhari does not even have a stature as well as the acumen that Indian PM's have.He is a simple cleric of the Jama Masjid,which is managed by Delhi Waqf Board, as such in the first place he is going for nepotism, by anointing his son,which he is not authorized to do so.As far as inviting Mr. Nawaz Sharif is concerned,it is his preference,being a personal function.
So, as Indians we do not consider it his personal priorities & not the country.
He is simply trying to politicize the issue as he might be having some political ambition.
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Nov 01, 2014 12:17pm
Just a publicity stunt by a man who has very little public credibility. Anyway where does this 'Shahi Imam' business come from? It is a relic of the Mughal age. The Brits, who followed the Mughals to become the ruling power are gone. India has had 12 PMs after 1947. This man still has the title because the Indian Government is too lazy to abolish it, or maybe it just doesn't care. Just to borrow an English saying "A storm in a teacup".
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Nov 01, 2014 02:12pm
Is there any value of such inherited titles in today's society? Some desperate people clinging on to the glories of the past.
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Nov 01, 2014 03:09pm
@Kabir Sidhu It is wrong to say that Sikhs are in doldrums,Sikhs have progressed by their sheer hard work not waiting for any aid from the Government,check your facts before posting.And also nobody dare call any Sikh who left Pakistan in 1947 a "Mohajir"
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Nov 01, 2014 03:45pm
Stars are favouring Modi. This man Bukhari just sealed off the fate of Congress in the upcoming Delhi elections by inviting Sonia, Rahul along with Nawaz Sharif and snubbing Modi. BJP will wipe out congress in Delhi with this incident alone.
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Nov 01, 2014 03:50pm
@Ahmer Modi works for india not for any religion.If india develops people gets benefit(It doesn't matter to which relgion an indian belongs).If you want to know more get stats of gujarat.
Gujarat govt under modi not made any consessions for any religion as a result gujarati muslims are 72 percent literate even more than hindus,it completed full quota of muslims who wanted to do haj.Learn about gujarati muslims and comment.They voted him as there chief minister for 3 terms and now he won all loksabha seats in gujarat.Do you think it is possible if he is anti muslim?
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Nov 01, 2014 04:22pm
Dog bites man: no news
Man bites dog: News! News!
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Nov 01, 2014 04:27pm
@Harish Bansal
In any case, who wants to go to a ceremony where his son will be 'annointed'? I doubt if Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif will attend.
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Nov 01, 2014 04:34pm
i compliment the editorial board of "DAWN" for fair and responsible reporting free of ill will in arrangement with the Times of India. both the countries can hope for peace so long as the media plays a constructive role. Even the comments by your readers show no animosity though rightly these cannot be devoid of national pride. As an old timer(77) i cannot forget the wonderful pre-partition days when i studied urdu along with my muslim friends and sought "maulavi sahib's" blessings before sitting for the school exams Pakistan should carry out a midcourse correction init's aims of Islamic state and strive to give to the world the real message of sufism which is the quintessence of Islam thus bringing about peace among the warring muslim countries and eliminate terrorism which has done so much harm to innocents in both the countries. Nawaz shrief is a great leader endowed with the qualities of peace and progress. It is high time the army in Pakistan leaves democracy free of all fears ----wish you all good luck and prosperity
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Nov 01, 2014 05:02pm
Never heard of this chap...but being the nobody that he is ,he could invite whoever he wants....
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Nov 01, 2014 05:09pm
@Saurabh Kaushik Modi has done everything for nation. He has not done anything for sikhs, jains, christians and so on, but they are not cribbing.
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Nov 01, 2014 05:12pm
@shafiq khan first he has to ask for visa. It is not his home town that he drives to shahi imamas house in delhi.
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Nov 01, 2014 06:24pm
great.
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Nov 01, 2014 07:28pm
Nawaz didn't have the time to visit Malala's Nobel Prize ceremony, and it won't be as if he'll have the time and the commitment to visit any old bearded bloke's son's wedding just because the bloke in question is against the elected govt. in India.
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Nov 01, 2014 09:53pm
@Akhtar Has Pakistan Prime Minister ever apologised for the plight of minorities any time?
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Nov 01, 2014 11:44pm
@Seedoo "A19 year old kid being made the chief cleric. Let me guess, he must be a hafiz "
The Imam himself is NOT hafiz.
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Nov 02, 2014 12:39am
Honorable Shahi Imam is trying to earn cheap popularity from Muslims of the World. Besides serving religious sermons what is his contribution to uplift the condition of Indian muslims? Instead of playing politics he should spend his energy to improve the social and economic status of minorities of India.
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Nov 02, 2014 12:55am
@shouat sheikh If some head priest of a Hindu Temple in Pakistan invites Indian PM but ignores Pak PM, he may be booked under some blasphemy. Not that there are many Hindus left anyway outside some areas of SIndh. And the sorry tale of the temples in Pakistan is reported in Dawn itself.
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Nov 02, 2014 01:00am
For those enquiring whether this is Dynastic, yes it is. Imam of Jama Masjid has been from theBukhari family since Shah Jahan's times. The previous Imam asked Muslims to vote for VP singh and that actually led to more Hindus supporting BJP.
For those asking "what has XYZ done for Muslims", how are the interests of Muslims different from those of others?
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Nov 02, 2014 02:59am
Muslim has been vote bank for Congress. Business class Hindus have been for BJP. Now the entire Hinud has become the vote bank of BJP@Human
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Nov 02, 2014 03:04am
@Johar
Imam Bukhari is a cleric . He has no authority outside that mosque . But he has enjoyed enormous attention over the years by virtue of for situated in Delhi .
BJP wants to use his decision to portray that Indian muslims are anti Modi,hence anti Indian and are pro Pakistan. Imam knows what he is doing. He is playing a dangerous game.He is putting the life of Indian muslim at risk.
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Nov 02, 2014 03:12am
@Bill
What makes you think India doesn't favor any religion or community?
Indian Hindus enjoy access to education,health,police protection,job and education reservation,and constant glorification by the media . There have not been a single conviction for the riot that swept through India from 1987 to 1992. The main culprits have been RSS,Shiv Sena,Bajranj Dal .
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Nov 02, 2014 04:51am
molvi should not be involved in politics. where are the indian Muslim politicians to blame modi for 2002 killings?
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Nov 02, 2014 08:16am
@Ahmer First let him make a statement that all Pakistanis of all denominations are equal and abolish blasphemy laws and remain alive..... Then he can accept that stupid Imam invitation....
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Nov 02, 2014 08:20am
@Kabir Sidhu really you think sikhs who are top earning community in India and most respected one is in duldrums?
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Nov 02, 2014 09:59am
Muslims do get Haj Sabsidi to the tune of Rs. 5000 crore every year. Hindus, Buddhist, Sikh or Christian dont get anything from GOI.
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Nov 02, 2014 10:26am
@Imran ...he needs a visa which Modi controls
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Nov 02, 2014 10:39am
Finally, there is one Muslim outside of Hyderabad who can stand up to Modi.
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Nov 02, 2014 11:06am
@Kabir Sidhu - I don't think Indian Sikhs live in Doldrums..
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Nov 02, 2014 11:07am
@Sarabjeet Singh all Balooney..
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Nov 02, 2014 11:13am
@Sierrabrave ;
"The Imam without a kingdom,"
Imam is supposed to be without a kingdom.
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Nov 02, 2014 12:47pm
@Ahmer : tomorrow is my brithday and i have not invited obama....pakistanis have a life ...modi is not crying....
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Nov 02, 2014 01:15pm
@Manu, why would NS even think that something will make Modi happy or angry, he is a PM of a sovereign country. The real reason if sense prevails for not attending the ceremony would be that NS should not come between whatever is happening in India between their so called leaders, this does not concern us, NS should pay attention to the problems at home that is more important.
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Nov 02, 2014 01:16pm
Shahi Imam can call anybody he wants. By calling NS he is giving a clear message that he is more pro-pakistani. Repeating charges about Gujarat for Modi is useless. Congress and the Media could not bring any thing against Modi even after trying very hard for 10 long years. Modi is not anti Muslim. Unlike the Congress leaders he is not apologetic of being a Hindu.
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Nov 02, 2014 01:20pm
@shouat sheikh, it was their choice to stay in India, we should not worry ourselves for them.
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Nov 02, 2014 02:16pm
@Ahmer Learn to solidarity with citizens and not Muslims only.
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Nov 02, 2014 02:19pm
@Atif you are no body to pass judgement of 1.2 billions of Indian. First learn and respect democracy yourself. Nawaz was elected by people but now the same people since got bored wants to get rid of him before his term is over,
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Nov 02, 2014 02:34pm
All politics aside, invitation is a prerogative. It is Mr. Bukhari's choice who he does or doesn't want to invite.
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Nov 02, 2014 03:07pm
Is Imam-hood hereditary? I thought Muslims invented democracy and elections etc? Should there not be elections?
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Nov 02, 2014 04:36pm
@mirza In India this cant be condidered as an act of bravery
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Nov 02, 2014 04:43pm
@mirza In India this cant be considered as an act of bravery...may be in some neighboring nations ..
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Nov 02, 2014 05:43pm
@Hasanat
No doubt Bajrangdal and such outfits are narrow. Don't you this Govt is keeping them at a distance. Attack on RSS is just a bogey.It is nationalistic in approach but most misunderstood because of calumny and bias.
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Nov 02, 2014 07:18pm
@Ahmer ns needs visa to come to India and that should be denued
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Nov 02, 2014 08:37pm
it seems the shahi imam has lost all his senses, it would be better he vacates the seat for someone else( including his son).
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Nov 03, 2014 07:33am
He is his famous in Jama Masjid area and people across the world are waitng desperately for his private funtion's invitation
How deluded can he get?
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Nov 03, 2014 02:54pm
Is shahi immam an indian sweet ? - Jokes apart this guy is only creating more issues for the muslims of India, openly mocking an elected PM is a dumb thing to do. After the recent attack on him he should be more careful about not making any new enemies.
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