‘Milestone’ military cooperation pact signed with Russia
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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and Russia signed a “milestone” military cooperation pact on Thursday aimed at bringing peace and stability in the region, Islamabad's defence ministry said.
The agreement was signed during a meeting by Russian Defence Minister General Sergei Shoigu, who is on a day-long official visit to Pakistan, with his counterpart Khawaja Asif.
“The signing of the military cooperation agreement between the two significant countries of the region is a milestone,” Asif said after the signing ceremony in a ministry statement.
“Both sides will translate this relationship in tangible terms and further strengthen military to military relations,” Asif added.
The pair expressed hope that the agreement will pave the way for exchange of views and information, as well as issues related to strengthening of mutual trust and international security, counter-terrorist and arms control activities.
“The first ever visit of the defence minister from Russian Federation has come at a very critical juncture when US led Nato forces are drawing down from Afghanistan by the end of 2014,” the statement said.
“Apart from promoting bilateral defence relations, the visit will enable both countries to join hands in bringing peace and stability in the region,” it added.
Russia has long been the largest supplier of arms to India, the nuclear-armed arch rival of Pakistan, which is the world's top arms buyer.
The country's ITAR-TASS news agency reported in June that Russia had lifted its embargo on arms supplies to Pakistan and was holding talks on supplying Islamabad with combat helicopters.
Shoigu, who is accompanied by a 41-member high level delegation, commended the skill and expertise of Pakistani armed forces in fighting the war against terrorism, the Pakistani defence ministry said.
“The world community not only praises but wants to do business with Pakistan now,” it quoted Shoigu as saying.
Islamabad keen to enhance ties with Moscow: Nawaz
Meanwhile, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has said that Pakistan is keen to enhance its multi-dimensional relations with Moscow, including defence.
Speaking to Defence Minister of Russian Federation General Sergei Shoigu, who met him here, he said that it was heartening to see that relations between Pakistan and Russian Federation have grown in the past few years.
The prime minister stressed upon the need to increase bilateral trade between the two countries which currently stands at $542 million and does not correspond to their trade potential.
He invited Russian companies to invest in Pakistan particularly in the energy sector and benefit from the business friendly policies of his government.
The premier lauded Russia's support to become full member of Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and said that Pakistan was ready to further enhance cooperation with other countries of the region, through this forum to counter the dual challenges of terrorism and drug trafficking – APP
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Nov 20, 2014 08:51pm
An isolated country is reaching out to another isolated country.. this is the moral of the story
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Nov 20, 2014 08:51pm
what is that milestone agreement?
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Nov 20, 2014 08:56pm
absence of the COAS from this meeting and his presence in US makes this diplomatic picture unclear, and it shows some frenzy.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:00pm
Well, milestone agreement or not can be decided only when it is explained - what's the agreement all about ? What are the areas of cooperation ? What is scope and extent of such cooperation ?
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Nov 20, 2014 09:02pm
@arindam ...or you can see it as a failure of Indian policy which has been to limit Russian-Pakistani ties.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:04pm
Russia & China are the future powers and Pakistan should get away from the Bankrupt West as fast as possible...
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Nov 20, 2014 09:04pm
No one is enthusiastic in Pakistan but neighboring country is quite nervous as shown by their comments here.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:14pm
Good time to befriend Russia and get technological and defense cooperation. One of the best initiative by PML N govt.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:17pm
Russia very warm welcome to Pakistan from core of my heart for opening a new era of bilateral development.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:20pm
to be honest enough, this is a bit unexpected. let us see how modi raises this issue when putin comes to india next month.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:22pm
@arindam Really? Now Indians don't like Russia? What a shame, and such a betrayal.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:24pm
Welcome to Pakistan, General Shoigu.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:25pm
Now this is achievement- more than any dharna or jalsa. Well done! This is the time to make new friends.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:28pm
@arindam when many isolated countries join hands, they are no longer isolated. Even in isolation we are a handful for the mob.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:29pm
It is indeed a "milestone" achievement. Now Pakistan can easily become a part of Sco and BRICs.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:33pm
Will this help in the Pakistan Afganistan ties?
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Nov 20, 2014 09:33pm
As US and India move closer to each other the Russians who hardly ever supplied arms to Pakistan have now agreed to do so and more agreements are coming in not too distant future.In the future it seems that Pakistan China and Russia will come even closer although Pakistan should be wise enough to keep good relations with the US.The Indians have not supported the Invasion of Ukraine by Russia, indicating that they are siding with the US on this matter which has not made the Russians happy.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:34pm
Russia is a spent bullet,it's economy is in downfall barely surviving on gas.the value of apple company is more than the entire stock market value of Russia.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:34pm
Pakistan should have joined Russians from day one. US is the most unreliable friend and has always betrayed Pakistan.
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Nov 20, 2014 09:50pm
Good work NS. I have been a very staunch opponent of NS but in the last few days things he has done and still doing has made me think twice about about the potential he has and can do for Pakistan, only if he can get rid of his corrupt ministers and mna's.
IK should be the opposition leader because of whom things have changed.
Jealous Indians are now against Russia....get some life other than just thinking of what Pakistan is doing or you will end up havin an obsessive compulsive disorder..
Pakistan Zindabad
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Nov 20, 2014 10:05pm
It is really a cause of concern for us Indians. Russia is going bankrupt and is a lost cause. It has a huge nuclear arsenal. I hope it does not fall in the wrong hands. I hope India purchases some oil fields not some junk equipments from Russia. Israeli technology is far more advanced.
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Nov 20, 2014 10:07pm
This is a good policy and strategy because too much emphasis on America and its allies might prove to be fatal at the end of the day.
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Nov 20, 2014 10:08pm
Dont buy russian arms we have their sukhoi"s falling on a rugular basis.
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Nov 20, 2014 10:13pm
Nobody cares what our neighbor enemy thinks. Good move Pak.
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Nov 20, 2014 10:17pm
Ask Russia to repay Pakistan for the killings and damage done by Russian nationals (the Chechens) in Pakistan. Had it not been for the brutal crackdown in Chechnya by Putin, these individuals would never have fled Russia and joined Al Qaeda and the Talibans in trying to grab territory in Pakistan.
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Nov 20, 2014 10:18pm
I am Indian and I believe every country should be friend with each other.
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Nov 20, 2014 10:38pm
Nice move, Russia and China are real super power of future. Join hand with them and eliminate the tyranny and injustice from the region going on for last 68 years.
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Nov 20, 2014 10:40pm
Great move by both the countries. It is really a milestone in the history of Pakistan and we Pakistanis expect much more and strong relations with Russia in future.
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Nov 20, 2014 10:55pm
@blacksheep
Have you any idea how Russia is getting isolated over Ukraine?
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Nov 20, 2014 11:02pm
Russian, Next time don't forget to add Maria Sharappova to your delegation to Pakistan. ;)
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Nov 20, 2014 11:02pm
Russian oil sector is completely dependent on US technologies. Russia cannot extract its own oil without Halliburtons & Slumbergers. Don't know how much Russians can help others. India moved away from Russian arms because of quality issues; astronomical overrun of cost and delivery schedule failures.Pakistan must learn and tread with caution.
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Nov 20, 2014 11:04pm
good for you Pakistan. There are no permanent friends or enemies in matters of states.
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Nov 20, 2014 11:09pm
Well done Nawaz Sharif.
The good results of your hardworking in last 18 months start comming. We trust you.
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Nov 20, 2014 11:14pm
@being human
Ha ha ha
Something is burning.
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Nov 20, 2014 11:20pm
A message to India, don't put too many feathers on your hat, only Raj Kapoor looks good with it.
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Nov 20, 2014 11:31pm
@arindam So this means India has always been isolated since it used to get all its defence supplies from Russia!
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Nov 20, 2014 11:33pm
Right move by Sharif Nawaz at the right time.
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Nov 20, 2014 11:38pm
Excellent move by Pakistani government.
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Nov 20, 2014 11:48pm
Judging from the comments I must say that Indians are the most insecure and jealous nation on the planet. Get a life neighbors.
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Nov 20, 2014 11:49pm
@arindam Not far back your country was partner of that isolated country, right?
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Nov 20, 2014 11:57pm
THE first and most important thing for Pakistan is not to make strategic ties with other countries, but to absoutely crush the menace of extremism and illteracy that is prevailing in the country, only then will these strategic ties bear fruit. Otherwise, essence of Pakistan will dissapear and reality of Taliban will set in.
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Nov 21, 2014 12:05am
The world community not only praises but wants to do business with Pakistan now,” it quoted Shoigu as saying.
Very encouraging statement from Russia; NS's governent policies are bearing fruit now!
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Nov 21, 2014 12:10am
@arindam
World is not just Eastern Union and India!
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Nov 21, 2014 12:14am
We want relation with every country on basis of mutual respect, we want peace, and no weapons.
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Nov 21, 2014 12:18am
@arindam : An emerging super-power is recognized by a former super-power. After all, it was some kind of super-power that caused the disintegration of the former super-power about quarter of a century back !
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Nov 21, 2014 12:18am
How come milestone defence agreement. COAS enjoying guard of honour and gun salute in US and here is pact. What a mess?
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Nov 21, 2014 12:28am
Russia will not throw out Aid like United states did, unlike US whose economy is on its way to recovery, Russia 's economy is on a down ward spiral! How will Pakistan pay if they don't have the money ?
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Nov 21, 2014 12:30am
Mating of two imperfect entities would NOT produce a better product. But, the both pariahas - Pakistan and Russia, can find solace in each other's arms momentarily.
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Nov 21, 2014 12:36am
go ahead and buy some MIG's too
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Nov 21, 2014 12:37am
@Engr.Khan Good comment, I like it.
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Nov 21, 2014 12:53am
India are you watching?
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Nov 21, 2014 01:09am
Excellent news. Defence suppliers need to be as diverse as possible in order to get the best possible deal for the country.
Investment and cooperation in economy related matters are also very important for both Pakistan and Russia.
This is good news for both countries.
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Nov 21, 2014 01:11am
A lot Pakistanis wanted to befriend Russia for many decades now; they got their wish. Russia has big muslims population, so we should be natural alliance
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Nov 21, 2014 01:14am
Well, it can be a good news for Pakistan and surely a good news for Russia, She got a Buyer. Big countries having week economies, like Russia and USA, have to sell their arms to someone....who is willing to buy?.....the unrest part of the world....which includes india and mainly muslim countries.....When these "baycharay" countries come out of the Complex of unsecurity from each other....it will be too late. Who is enjoying the Peace and Wealth?....just think about it, you will get all the answers!
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Nov 21, 2014 01:25am
@Pragmatist Right
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Nov 21, 2014 01:29am
Great start. Pakistan and Russia should have been friends all along. Our trade potential is easily several billion $$$/year. I'm happy India and US are warming up too. I hope Pakistan and Russia build their relationship as well. We should detach our friendship from any foreign influence and never gloat in comparison. Neither should Indians gloat about their new 'friends' the US.
More friendships means a better neighborhood all around. Peace to all!!!
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Nov 21, 2014 01:36am
Follow the money my friends.
Russia first sold to India, now it's Pakistan.
Next, a war between the two "love birds".
Guess what, Russia just made billions out of poor and hungry bunch.
Well done India and Pakistan.
- a sad Pakistani
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Nov 21, 2014 02:04am
Achha hai.. Bahut Achha hai....
The geopolitics of Asia are changing rapidly, and becoming more and more complex.. Iss khel mein bahut mazaa aayega..!! hehehe..
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Nov 21, 2014 02:07am
Asif Ali Zardari laid the foundation of good relations between Pakistan and Russia. Good to see PMLN also followwing that!
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Nov 21, 2014 02:12am
Great to see Russia and Pakistan coming together and coperating in military and defence. Its the need of the time that Pakistan bring vesatility in its defence strategy as Pakistan is now surrounded with all sorts of threats. Russia-Pak defense coperation will definitely give Pak a strategic edge in case our so called best friend and ally abandon us which is very likely to happen looking at the past experience. Cant wait to see Pakistani pilots flying the Russian MI fighter helicopter.
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Nov 21, 2014 02:16am
@ali Ukraine was not on the agenda for the Modi-Obama summit because India's support for Russia was clearly articulated.
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Nov 21, 2014 02:16am
Beside this military to military cooperation, the trade cooperation between two will also help to boost our economy and consequently this whole progress will bring prosperity in the region as well. Now its time for India to resolve Kashmir matter with us as soon as possible to be a part of this unique regional cooperation.
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Nov 21, 2014 02:20am
@Proud Pakistanzindabaad
It's day to celibrate,,,
Future powers are
China Pakistan Russia
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Nov 21, 2014 02:23am
Putin is due to meet PM in India, lets see how it progressed
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Nov 21, 2014 02:49am
@Nadeem : Russia during the cold war was the leader of non-capitalist world, so it was not isolated. It is isolated these days due to its interference in Ukraine and so during W-20 summit in Australia- many Head Of States warned Russian President.
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Nov 21, 2014 03:06am
Good for Pakistan ... it is always better to spread your bets for defense equipment...
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Nov 21, 2014 03:06am
As the price of crude oil keeps falling, Russia is getting more & more desperate to to save it economy from total collapse. India has become smarter & no longer buying sub-par Russian weapons & hence Russia seems to have found a goat (Bakra) to sell its weapons. Good luck Pakistan!
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Nov 21, 2014 03:14am
Should have happened 60 years ago. US and its allies in Europe have never been our friend and never will be.
They will come and hug you and then stab you in the back.....
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Nov 21, 2014 03:17am
@arindam, and this is burning fire under the feet of some other people. Stop being negative not everything in this world is about Bharat
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Nov 21, 2014 03:20am
Russia is a regional power. Pakistani rulers should have been best friend with Russia from the start, instead of the pseudo friend USA, controlled by AIPAC and ISRAEL. USA would not help Pakistan even with having a steel mill. RUSSIA did that, even when Pakistani rulers were slaves to the Americans.
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Nov 21, 2014 03:21am
@Engr.Khan
Maria sharapova who? The one who doesnt know sachin tendulkar :)
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Nov 21, 2014 03:36am
Let's see how this logic works.
We will continue getting financial aid from the USA, and will buy military equipment from Russia. The new 2015 US Congress with its Republican party majority in both houses will vote to continue that aid. The newspapers will enjoy positive public feedback from lots of political speeches encouraging the American taxpayers to pay for it.
Something doesn't seem to add up. What did I miss?
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Nov 21, 2014 03:39am
Hopefully russia is not using pakistan as the us did in the past
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Nov 21, 2014 04:12am
Good move. Establish strong relations with another agnostic nation. For defence (war), there is no shortage of funds in Pakistan. There is shortage of funds for social and health issues facing the nation.
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Nov 21, 2014 04:14am
Probably Imran will not like the pact with the Russians too -- as he didn't with the Chinese.
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Nov 21, 2014 04:48am
Very encouraging! Their defence minister with 40 people strong delegation was in Pakistan! Days of begging with a kashkool in front of Uncle SAM slowly phasing out ! Simply wow ! Also the specific terms of agreement not spelled out in this article , nevertheless this level of engagement in the beginning is a stepping stone for further diversification of Pakistani strategic reach and influence in the region!
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Nov 21, 2014 04:49am
Congrats for the “milestone” :)
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Nov 21, 2014 05:05am
Best news of the day. Doing business with Russia enables integration with CARs, places where many in Pakistan derive their ancestral ties from. It just makes better sense anyway NOT being an irritating outpost for GB-US wedged between Central Asia and middle east.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:06am
@arindam
A country that has failes and lacks technical skills to maintain and use Russian hardware..is worried by this swap in relations, as they know how innovative and technically smart and efficient Pak forces are.
So this jealousy and worry is natural.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:17am
This is illogical. They must inform the nation of that so called milestone. We should think that why suddenly they need us. The answer is simple. They are isolated!!!
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Nov 21, 2014 05:18am
@Mamata_Begam Dont delude ypourself- It is the U.S. that is bnankrupt. Russia has no debt and all the resources it needs.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:20am
This is an excellent step. Long overdue.
We should work closely work with the Russians to counter brutal Indian tactics.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:21am
@blacksheep
Very true.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:22am
@Pragmatist
True.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:26am
It is a good news and Pakistanis should be happy. There is a shift in global power balance and Pakistan made a move on the right time. Pakistan also needs to diversify its defence procurement so that it won't depend on one country. I do hope that this visit will bring good results for both countries. We should not miss this opportunity.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:29am
@arindam Hahaha thanks for making me laugh. Yes, Russia right now might be quite isolated but the fact of the matter is that Russia is still India's largest arm supplier and Delhi is certainly not going to rejoice after this historic pact.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:38am
@arindam and why are you here and feeling so very uncomfortable? isolated country .. lol. wait a few years and we'll see.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:44am
Now that Russia has more enemies then friends, it's tilting towards Pakistan. Modi had better keep his jealous rage under check for sooner rather then later, the USA will teach him a lesson he won't forget as they do with all their " frenemies." Once the Americans have finished their wheeling and dealing with Modi, and decide India is no longer viable for them, they will drop Modi like a hot samosa. Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer until they all abandon you, which they will - sooner than Modi could ever dream of.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:55am
Pakistan hopes to use US aid money for Russian purchase.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:59am
@arindam Improve your IQ.
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Nov 21, 2014 06:02am
Finally Pakistan is waking up and realizing the reality. West will never be Pakistan's true friend.
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Nov 21, 2014 06:04am
@being human Who cares. How many of those Apple shares Americans will give to Pakistan? 48 million of Americans live below poverty level.
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Nov 21, 2014 06:30am
Good Pakistan is trying to stay away from west ! The west has always seen the subcontinent as a good source of income. Even though Russia is also nobodies friend but it is important to isolate USA and Europe from Asia. Good move Pakistan! BTW i am an Indian and i believe there should be no fight between us and Pakistan but we should find away to make subcontinent self sufficient where western powers find no place to exploit.
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Nov 21, 2014 06:45am
@Shamsher Singh Bajwa
Same way India did ,when she didn't have money
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Nov 21, 2014 06:46am
@Khan Zubair it's called foreign policy friends too all.
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Nov 21, 2014 06:54am
Good move. Lets see how it manifest itself in practical terms.
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Nov 21, 2014 06:55am
Next best friend: North Korea
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Nov 21, 2014 07:00am
@arindam Russia is hardly isolated.
The so called international community is merely six western countries in the throes of anemic economic performance. Russia signed 50 deals with China, two of them are worth $700 billion to be settled in Chinese Yuan and Russian Rouble. The others are in defense industry, space exploration, commodities and agriculture just to mention a few. In agriculture China has leased land (in Russia) larger than Ukraine where it will grow agricultural products to be exported from Russia.
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Nov 21, 2014 07:00am
Every agreement and trip of the PM is a considered as a milestone.
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Nov 21, 2014 07:05am
@Sanjeev Yes. Russia is a SUPERPOWER just by the sheer size of its land mass not to mention that it is the largest nuclear military in the world.
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Nov 21, 2014 07:10am
@pathanoo You are from a perfect land Mister know it all .?
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Nov 21, 2014 07:21am
@Shah India can now afford costly technology hence it moved to EU, ISREAL and USA. Russian technology is inferior and low quality maybe tinu miny bit better than China...
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Nov 21, 2014 07:25am
@Proud Pakistani
It has nothing to do with NS. Pak Army is spearheading.
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Nov 21, 2014 07:34am
Now no agreement can help undo the harm caused by Russian Veto in U.N. General Assembly on Kashmir issue! Likewise is the case of Russian Invasion on Afghanistan!
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Nov 21, 2014 07:41am
The Zionist controlled NATO and USA are going to be history soon, it's time Pakistan leave gog magog illuminati snakes den.
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Nov 21, 2014 07:45am
Peace lovers around the world rejoice.
Flags at half mast in New Delhi.
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Nov 21, 2014 07:51am
Counties have their interests. That's what bring them closer.Remember Yalta meetings?
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Nov 21, 2014 07:51am
In Real Estate you talk of location location location.
Chinese have the contract to develop the port of Gawader and now Russia can too use this route via Iran or Afghanistan.
But then what is Raheel Sharif doing in USA while (supposed boss),the Defence minister greets his Russian counterpart.
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Nov 21, 2014 08:09am
@Shah simple! They want to sell their weapons. But don't ask them about the financial aid and investment; they are already alienated. Hope Barack Obama will not mind this so called "milestone" pact.
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Nov 21, 2014 08:17am
We were trapped in US's agenda back in 80's and became part of new world order which break USSR into several pieces.
Time shows it was our mistake to become the part of USSR destruction.
Russia is back on his feet now and its our pay-back time .
Russia and China would be new world powers of the futute.
This a good step toward a future NWO.
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Nov 21, 2014 08:34am
Pakistan needs to be more careful here, it is Putin's strategy to reoccupy the regions then USSR was ruling, Crimea and Ukraine are the best example. Russia is isolated and Putin did not even attend the full G20 Summit in Australia. Russia is just looking for money by arm supply to Pakistan and looking to move it's pawn in Afghanistan as well, which USSR occupied for several years. So there is nothing to be happy about Defence minster visiting Pakistan, there is a bad mannered snake around you and you gotta be careful.
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Nov 21, 2014 09:08am
@@OnLineDahwah2U scary future for the rest of the world :-) pun intended.. Good Luck..
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Nov 21, 2014 09:26am
@Black Sabbath in that case don't annoy Pakistan, otherwise in conflict, your Russian weaponry will not be replenished. You will have to buy from Pakistan, the lion of the region.
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Nov 21, 2014 09:31am
I thnk, we all solve the kashmir big problem Then live in peace, Pakistan, hamra Hindustan, aur kashmiristan.
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Nov 21, 2014 09:33am
@Atif , The milestone is Russia will give you 3 AK-47 and few million dollar money for free....
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Nov 21, 2014 09:35am
@Shah , you will never come to that level what India and Russia relationship mean to us and it has been is past . it is rock solid relationship rooted in the blood of Indian and Russian people . I will suggest you to keep an eye on Putins's visit to India next month and see what happens .....
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Nov 21, 2014 09:38am
@Goggy Sachin Tendulkar who?
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Nov 21, 2014 09:41am
@Shaan If Muslims in a country is the criterion for friendship, India has more muslims than Pakistan itself. Why go to Russia on that ground?
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Nov 21, 2014 09:42am
Pakistan is trying to find one more donor country just to extract few million dollars.. believe me this is not going be a serious business on the cost of India.... India was in need of Russia for decades and now it is vice-versa as Russia is now in need of India .....and we Indian are ok to return all the favor we got from Russia in past ......
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Nov 21, 2014 09:47am
What is the "milestone"? The article did not mention. Two country's ministers sitting down and praising each other is not an achievement. What was discussed in terms of money, specific areas of cooperation in defence etc? Is Pakistan feeling happy by becoming a dumping ground for cold war equipment, because now the west is creating issues in supplying it?
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Nov 21, 2014 09:49am
@Engr.Khan - Engineer sahab, you are the only one whose comments make sense here, I swear.
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Nov 21, 2014 09:52am
Both Russia and Pakistan are isolated countries. Also both Russia and Pakistan are near to an economic collapse. Pakistan depends on largesse of US and China. Regarding Russia it depends on only its arms and gas export. So its quite natural that two isolated economically failed countries are joining hands in order to get their heads out of water. Darwinian Principle at work.
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Nov 21, 2014 09:53am
Russia is our friend. If Pakistan can be friend of Russia, at least they will think friend's friend is a friend too.
PS : I am Indian and Pakistan is NOT our enemy.
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Nov 21, 2014 09:54am
Pakistan should get KA-50 or KA-52 helicopters instead of MI series. KA-50 is much more maneuverable and agile.
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Nov 21, 2014 10:14am
@Calcutta Man if China accept them, they are not isolated.
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Nov 21, 2014 10:17am
@iTellYou so articulated, India abstained in the voting when resolution came to censure Russia. Did not support as always. The puppy has a new master.
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Nov 21, 2014 10:20am
@Prakash the old puppy of Russia now talking against the master to please the new master, US. No one warns Russia, our new good friends and we have kept our old friends as well. In fact Pakistan , now is good with China, US and Russia. We sit with the big boys, because we are strong and they know it.
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Nov 21, 2014 10:22am
Better late (67 years) to reach out to the neighbour (Russia) than never…….
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Nov 21, 2014 10:33am
@Mike Pakistan cant afford state of the art aircraft and hence Mi-35 (about to be retired) otherwise they would have rallied for KA-52 series
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Nov 21, 2014 10:35am
"Russia has long been the largest supplier of arms to India, the nuclear-armed arch rival of Pakistan, which is the world's top arms buyer." Poverty, disease, independence movements, lawlessness, women and children abuse, slavery, lack of education, no food or water for 95 % of the indian populace, and they borrow money from world bank and buy expensive foreign arms which they can't even operate properly. What a waste.
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Nov 21, 2014 10:35am
@think_then_speak only in your miserable, lonely, confused mind, who appears to speak, then thinks.
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Nov 21, 2014 10:44am
Why not buy ALCH (Advanced light combat helicopter) or LCH (Light Combat Helicopters) helicopters which would be more agile than Mi-35's and state of the art and costs 2/3rd of the price per piece
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Nov 21, 2014 11:01am
jab taq rahaiN chaand aur sooraj,
jab taq chale yeh qayanat,
hai khuda se yeh dua hamari,
yeh Jodi sahe salamat..
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Nov 21, 2014 11:16am
Real military talks are being held by Gen Raheel, NS is doing personal business.
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Nov 21, 2014 11:22am
Pakistani not been able to handle Chines railway engine, how they will manage MI-35... Its russian.... Hehehehe :)
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Nov 21, 2014 11:24am
@arindam Indians are now naming Russia as an isolated country, after benefiting from it from beginning. Isn't it a little selfishness?
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Nov 21, 2014 11:31am
Pakistan and Russia have some good moments in history, besides some harsh realities. Pakistanis still appreciate Russians as the main helpers for Pakistan Steel Mills and looking forward for mutually beneficial cooperation.
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Nov 21, 2014 11:36am
@being-human When Russia and Pakistan are doing some business, which is not a major issue for Indians, then Indian are naming Russians as a 'Spent Bullet'. I don't know why Indians are so obsessed with Pakistan that they are calling names to an old and dear friend just because of Pakistan.
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Nov 21, 2014 11:49am
@Shamsher Singh Bajwa . This is good for Pakistan. USA only provided technical help and loan (which was named as aid, and currently Pakistan has to pay more than $65 billion) for useless and corruption-prone causes. Now, China is helping Pakistan with infrastructure and same is expected from Russia. Russians helped Pakistan once in building Pakistan Steel Mills and we can look forward for more help.
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Nov 21, 2014 12:26pm
@Sourabh why are Indians suddenly calling Russia a failed state. Wasn't Russia your biggest ally? With friends like India who needs enemies. Oh BTW...Russia has zero debt liability something none of the western govt can boost about so next time check your facts.
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Nov 21, 2014 12:36pm
Our national interests are more important for us. Equations keep on changing in international arena.
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Nov 21, 2014 01:02pm
Something fishy is going around. Russian defense head is visiting pak when its defens head is in US.
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Nov 21, 2014 01:25pm
@Zak , you should be very comic all the way
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Nov 21, 2014 02:22pm
@Khan
What an insight. Didn't US was in same position to through Russia out of Afghanistan? Now US going, Russia is eagar to use Pakistan. I am not saying its bad but then does Pakistan has really anything to offer Russia other then a platform to spread inroads in Afghanistan?
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Nov 21, 2014 02:32pm
Pakistanis are so immature and jump to conclusion without thinking. Russia has proposed india to manufacturing Aircrafts, Helicopters and Satellites. Soon you shall come to know when Putin visits India. But you seem to be happy with just a hand shake.
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Nov 21, 2014 06:28pm
Countries have no friends, only interests.
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Nov 22, 2014 08:43am
@Anwar Amjad
Better ask your future premier Imran Khan.
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Nov 22, 2014 08:49am
@Ali
There is nothing to worry or fear.Lets see what Putin has up his sleeves.Btw I heard Chechen rebels and Kashmir separatists are all freedom fighters.So how can you support Russia now.
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Nov 22, 2014 08:51am
@zaki
Thank you.We should all want that.
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Nov 22, 2014 08:57am
India okayed this to allow Russ to sell low grade stuff to Pak as Russ needs money to fund hitech ventures with India.
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Nov 22, 2014 09:14am
Paksitan welcomed russian defence minister which irked US and in turn US announced obama visit to india ..
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Nov 22, 2014 09:39am
For my innocent citizens NS has nothing to do with it and we have been collaborating with Russians on military and its hardware issues since quite some time now and this now is the culmination of it all,for my Indian brothers the grapes seem sour !
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Nov 22, 2014 10:08am
@ilyas Kashnir will get independence,
Gilgit, azad kashmir, Indian kashmir and chinese kashmir will all join and form a seperate nation becoming buffer nation between , india, pakistan, china,.
Thi is how it was before 1947 before pakistan attacked to grab kashmir.
atleast kashmiris can live in peace then the islamic influence, indian armayl chinese militaty.
all 3 party should get out of kashmir and pakistan should take back pashtoons and punjabis from gilgit baltistan..
it will be loss for india, pakistan and china, but kashmir people will have peace.
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Nov 22, 2014 11:08am
@harsh
You mean, India can dictate Russia? What a great news?
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Nov 22, 2014 11:23am
@Raza For your info, brother, NS is going to Moscow, but Putin is COMING to Delhi. Why should grapes be sour for us? Get real...
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Nov 22, 2014 11:59am
@Shah its not failures lol , indians know when we need who and we play game on our very own terms .good luck with your milestone agreement . We hope it wont take you to stone age !!!
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Nov 22, 2014 12:08pm
@Nadeem yea it was a partner but don't take india guranted for wrong deeds ,shooting on passanger planes and invasions on other countries can not be supported at any cost . Indian foreign policies best for long run ,good on you modi
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Nov 22, 2014 01:14pm
Why does any foreign visit to Pakistan excites Pakistanis so much that they start drawing conclusions. May be not too many people visit Pakistan now a days.
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Nov 22, 2014 04:01pm
@Sanjay
Why you are worried about Pakistanis, mind your own business.
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Nov 22, 2014 04:03pm
@wilson
Really!
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Nov 22, 2014 05:38pm
Could anyone tell me, how could money borrowed from America be used to buy arms from Russia?
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Nov 22, 2014 05:46pm
@ali It is good that Pakistan has relationship with Russia. It is no longer a zero sum game. It is funny to see some of the Indian comments as though it is an anti-india act from Russia or from the Pakistanis seeing this as an opportunity to move away from USA. Pakistan cannot afford to move away from USA anytime soon given their dependence on USA for both defence and economy and Russia cannot ignore India for Pakistan given that India is still the largest arms importer and their relation is too strategic.
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Nov 22, 2014 05:53pm
@Shaan Weird logic. You like Russia for its 5% muslim population. But India has more muslim population?
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Nov 22, 2014 07:11pm
@arindam Sane,honest and helping people generally get isolated in an environment of deceit,cunning and tyranny.The eastern block was the one that tried to make us technologically advanced in engineering field
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Nov 22, 2014 07:38pm
And Russia is also holding talks with North Korea as well, It kinnda make sense.
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Nov 22, 2014 09:39pm
If by cooperation between two countries there is peace ,it's great.why Indians are so worried .they should also try to be peace loving country rather than playing proxy games.be friendly.live and let others live.dont forget ur life in the time of Mughal era.
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Nov 22, 2014 10:28pm
lol is it russia or pakistan which wants to make a point ?
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Nov 22, 2014 11:16pm
@Goggy hehehe........dat's a good one
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Nov 22, 2014 11:17pm
@Shaan India has third largest muslim population and still it is your natural enemy from day one. Saudi Arabia and Iran is also Muslim country but we always hear two different prospect. Any thing happen for good in ur country why you always bring religion. Please understand In this modern age country's diplomacy depends on pure economic prospect no sentiments. Russia cant afford to lose India for Pakistan but they want engagement like China......and you r mature enough why??? We are happy for you, Go and have good relation with every country, Its your right but to achieve that please put your house in order because a strong foreign policy first need internal peace and control.
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Nov 22, 2014 11:40pm
hammer & sickle , it's about time
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Nov 22, 2014 11:49pm
Don't forget it all started because of the Russian bear prowling in Afghanistan.
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Nov 23, 2014 02:52am
@arindam , do not agree with friend. Russia and Pakistan have their rights to protect their boundaries, people and interests. Isolation of a country does not bring solution to any problem, rather it exaggerate the problem. Isolation deprives the world of dialogue and communication, resulting in not knowing what the other party is thinking, doing or planning. In any case, there are no permanent friends and enemies. World dimensions are continuously changing and so are changing the interests of nations, people and regions.
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Nov 23, 2014 05:55am
Its shame to call India as rival of Pakistan.
Pakistan is not rival in any areas of technology, democracy or institutions.
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Nov 23, 2014 06:05am
I think Pakistani think that having few contracts with Russia, they would have some leverage over India. This is pretty naive thinking. While Pakistan is trying to find some partners to get out of the quaigmire it is in, India is trying to be in the league of heavy weights and may be in next couple of years, it will become one of the most powerful countries. India already has left Pakistan way behind. There is no catching now for Pakistan. It is just trying hard not to be in same category as Afghanistan.
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Nov 23, 2014 10:21am
@Khan PML N policy is good - Pakistan and Russia should enhance trade - development and cooperation - consultation - joint ventures - after all Russia is also in the neighbor hood and Pakistan should increase bilateral trade from 600 million approx. to 3 billion by the end of term of PML. Pakistani firms, universities , institutions , armed forces , trade , etc can learn a lot from giant Russia - Hope soon be direct air service
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Nov 23, 2014 11:55am
@ali areyou sure india didnt support russia on ukraine ?? Chrck the facts - only china and india took stand which was helpful for russia. And india is going near to america doesnt mean it is going far from russia, first check out the projects on which india and russia are working including brahmos hypersonic missile and 5th gen fighter aircraft- which are in public domain. and do you really think these abstract kind of cooperation agreements have anything to do with the realpolitik world. if you come to any indian defence establishment, which are more than fifty, you will realise what is the meaning of cooperation between two countries. china is against usa but still doing business with it, so as india doing with every country - functional diplomacy.
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Nov 23, 2014 03:31pm
Cozying of Pakistan by Russia and US and the democrates in US are on their way out, has given Indians sleepless nights.
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Nov 24, 2014 03:29am
@Baber Honestly we have to think, I hope other should think beyond NS.
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