Special report on the rise of Islamic State
One of the Islamic State’s senior commanders reveals details of the terror group’s origins inside an Iraqi prison.
Dawn.com
Published
December 27, 2014
One of the Islamic State’s senior commanders reveals exclusive details of the terror group’s origins inside an Iraqi prison - right under the noses of their American jailers. Report by Martin Chulov
Martin Chulov / Guardian News & Media Ltd
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Tranquil Aisha
Dec 27, 2014 04:29pm
okay now I am waiting for the comments of Indian who will give hundreds of advise as well as they can predict future of Pakistan ,, ohh not Pakistan even whole world , they know Daesh very well they know Pakistan Very well .. Every single Indian who will be here is dead sure that Daesh will take over Pakistan ... If I have missed any thing Dear Indians do let me know :) ..
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Wandering Around
Dec 27, 2014 04:48pm
There is no way to verify all this information. Certain generalities may be true. But who is behind it and who is funding it, will remain a mystery. Is it a set up to engage Iran and inflame self destructive Shia/Sunni conflict? Only God knows.
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mansoor
Dec 27, 2014 04:55pm
Thank you US, for giving Humanity and especially Islamic world another headache in the name of national security. So many opportunities lost on the way.
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Q
Dec 27, 2014 05:14pm
The way muslims are treated, killed, attacked, land occupied and terrorised make them so as above. But sorry part is that their own leaders provide land, intelligence, logistics to facilitate all crimes by enemies.
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Abrar
Dec 27, 2014 05:21pm
Life with Isis means power, money, wives and status , Same here with TTP
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ImranShah
Dec 27, 2014 05:45pm
I missed the part where US and its allies provided terrorists in syria with sophisticated weapons to fight american led jihad against "Evil" Bashar Al assad which resulted in the creation of FSA and ISIS
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Last Word
Dec 27, 2014 06:25pm
Thanks to Dawn for this insight to the most dangerous terrorist group which the world has ever known. The world should thank US who is wholly responsible for IS's creation after US invasion of Iraq and events leading thereafter. Saddam Hussein never befriended Al Qaeda but after his ouster the Baathist joined them against the common enemy ie US and Shia govt in Iraq. Air strikes alone won't defeat IS therefore US who is responsible for the genocide unleashed by the former should bring their boots back in Iraq to destroy the evil created by it. Nevertheless, India, Pakistan and Afghanistan should make a joint strategy to fight IS as many of its fighters have joined this group belong to these countries.
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Inayathullah
Dec 27, 2014 06:44pm
So, Saudi Arabia, Qatar are so innocent that they did not interfere in these episodes. The author made Assad the only villain.
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Tejas
Dec 27, 2014 06:54pm
@Tranquil Aisha: Oh...u missed 'Kashmir' the favorite topic of all Pakistanis and some Indians alike! ;-)
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juniper
Dec 27, 2014 06:54pm
@Wandering Around
No one needs to fund ISIS, they have oil wells. They can sell oil. they collect tax. And they stole from banks before they formally came to power. They have plenty of cash.
On Sunni/Shai conflict, yes, before America ever existed, Sunnis and Shias were best friends forever.
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Azmeen
Dec 27, 2014 07:14pm
Another gift of USA for the Muslim countries.
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fida sayani USA
Dec 27, 2014 08:05pm
Conclusion: Bashir supported Jihadidt, American supported Jihadist, although there is no mention of Saudi Arabia. Bottom line all three are paying for their stupidity. The overall and final sufferer are the common Muslim both Sunni and Shia.
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ala
Dec 27, 2014 08:37pm
I wish I had similar news paper in India
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ala
Dec 27, 2014 08:57pm
Why Pakistan forgets or ignores Saudi, tuey are the biggest culprits . Hope Saudi rulers become ordinary people like in India or Pakistan. They are the real culprits
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Ankur
Dec 27, 2014 09:32pm
@Tranquil Aisha Your sarcasm is appreciated in the lighter sense. We Indian love to judge, trust me we cannot help it. But you can always close your ears when we are around.
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Calcutta Man
Dec 27, 2014 09:34pm
@Tranquil Aisha
As I write this, five hours have passed since you made your jibe against Indians. Sadly, till now, I see no comment by an Indian blaming Pakistan . Feeling foolish?
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nasiroski
Dec 27, 2014 10:13pm
I hope this gets translated in Urdu and read by Pakistani's who have any sympathies towards ISIS or the militants of the sorts and specially the people who are spreading sectarian hatred. The first and the foremost lesson I get from here is sectarian hatred sees no bounds no limits, turns people into animals, now if someone still wants to make this choice rest assured this is not the religions call. This is the kind of narrative we need against our fight with religious extremism better learn our lesson from this middle east episode otherwise we will be no different perhaps worse than this region.
Also the enemy of enemy is a friend is not always true it needs more commonalities than just that.
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abdul
Dec 27, 2014 10:29pm
Veterans today.com even wrote an article on bagdadi which claimed this nondescript man was himself an American plant to divert and be a false flager. The article even posted picture of bagdadi with his Jewish family. There was another article posted pictures of his fighters taking medical treatment in Israeli military hospital.
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javed
Dec 27, 2014 10:58pm
USA systematically destroyed all liberal secular Arab regimes in the Middle East and supported and prop up the fundamentalist kingdoms, the breeding ground of extremism, in the region. Was it a part of the "New World Order"?
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Shakil Khan
Dec 27, 2014 11:20pm
ISIS: Inside story - as Alqaeeda was too old and less scary or in fashion after bin laden, world need to create another monster to scare people for own purpose to their dirty work and provide them much needed excuse to invade, dissect and create new countries.
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Zakir
Dec 28, 2014 12:00am
Hmm gosh how the west has made a mess of Middle East and Muslims are dying both ways . But alas ! Not many including Indians will blame us and surprise surprise they will beat the usual punchbag" Pakistan " lol
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N.
Dec 28, 2014 12:21am
What others give us should tells us what they think of us, and what we receive from others should tells who and what we are.
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Harish Bansal
Dec 28, 2014 01:02am
@Tranquil Aisha Ok does ISIS really need to take over Pakistan more than it already has, ISIS is not a nation with boundaries.
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Vipul
Dec 28, 2014 01:17am
A very good article...
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A. Khan
Dec 28, 2014 01:34am
I read this over 10 days ago in the Guardian. Can't we have some other perspective ?
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Haseeb
Dec 28, 2014 02:22am
Nest for Terrorist, as Edward Snowden leaked ..Missed the part when Baghdadi self proclaimed caliphate met secrtly with senators of Congress :(
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rana1
Dec 28, 2014 02:29am
@ImranShah ...........it sounds more like a private war probably funded by foreign corporates.Its like have fun at our expense until it lasts and you get us what we want.
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concerned_Cit
Dec 28, 2014 02:42am
@Tranquil Aisha Thanks for your comments because of which, no indian has posted here yet :)
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Vijay Bee
Dec 28, 2014 03:48am
Dear Aisha
Your comments do not reflect the tranquility you claim to have. Let me give you an advice, up to you to heed it or not.
Yours is a failed rogue state. Earlier you wake up and fix it better it is for you.
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mike hasan USA
Dec 28, 2014 04:01am
"Life with Isis means power, money, wives and status "..... what else would an angry young man want? end of the story
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Mohammed Masud Alam
Dec 28, 2014 04:19am
DAIISH (الدولة الاسلامية في العراق والشام) (ad-Dawlah al-Islāmīyah fīl-ʻIrāq wa ash-Shām) is a better acronym than ISIS, which is is more popular as name of Goddess in ancient Egyptian religion. DAIISH like any other terrorist group is rooted in lack of education of true concept of Islam. The ideology practiced by DAIISH has nothing to do with Islam preached by Propeht (s) and followed by 1.6 billion Muslims across continents. DAIISH represents Khariji thinking. Despite their militancy and limited success, they will never go help people of Gaza, for example. Why ? The answer lies in Khariji manifesto. If you want to know more , you have to read about Khariji movements in history.
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ghanshyam
Dec 28, 2014 08:30am
Pl clarify, if syria (assad) was supporting Isis, then why are they ie - Isis fighting assad army ?
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ghanshyam
Dec 28, 2014 08:34am
@Tranquil Aisha : we will never advise people with closed minds and living in denial? You yourself see the results and gain some wisdom to question the path which lead to it !
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TAPAS DAS
Dec 28, 2014 08:36am
@Tranquil Aisha No, you did not miss anything, you just opened your heart so that Indian can have maximum visibility, a job very well done :)
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Khizar
Dec 28, 2014 08:40am
It's a shame the world buy these lies.
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M. M. Alam
Dec 28, 2014 08:58am
it is quite a serious issue and the west has to lead the way in enlightening the younger generation in islamic world by showing fairness/even handedness in dealing with affairs where muslims are at the receiving end, like Palestine, Kashmir etc.
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Usman Majid
Dec 28, 2014 09:37am
Please can some one here explain why so many British Pakistanis are joining ISIS. I read that over 800 UK Pakistanis have gone to Syria.
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Virupaksh
Dec 28, 2014 09:41am
Believe me I think keeping the prisoners in the same camp is already studied by USA...they want to for some extremist group after Al-Queda so they can keep invading the Muslim world and control . For Pakistan it is already doomed , it is going to destroy itself...not hanging the prisoners gonna backfire , no USA aid only china aid , no electricity, no economy , sectarian war , suicide bombing
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Raja
Dec 28, 2014 09:50am
Another Al-Qaida established to destabilize the Muslim world. How did they become so powerful in such a short time. From where they are getting arms and ammunition. Who is funding them? We should be ready for another FITNA (like this) once the objectives are achieved. May ALLAH help the Muslim Umma.
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Ajay vikram singh
Dec 28, 2014 10:26am
@Tranquil Aisha - :) You know what - Daesh had made its presence in Pakistan long back. In 1948 itself, after the death of Jinnah. Then under the rule of Zia-ul-haq, it had taken over Pakistan.
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Ali
Dec 28, 2014 11:50am
In 1979 USSR invasion in Afghanistan and US created and supported Talibans and then after 9/11 agains us invasion into Afghanistan followed by Iraq.
In Iraq they said the the regime in position of weapons of Mass destruction and later they said that the intelligence was not correct, went back to the country and destabilized not only Iraq but entire region. Now what can anyone predict future?
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Imran Habib
Dec 28, 2014 01:12pm
Good Informative Read.
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Shafique
Dec 28, 2014 04:14pm
In short term US won it's objective of taking control of Iraqi oil but in the long term they created more trouble for Americans and the whole humanity.
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Fayyaz Ali
Dec 28, 2014 06:46pm
Abu Bakar Al Baghadadi is nothing but an american intelligence agency tout. An impressive hollywood style backup story prepared for this tout, just like Osama bin Laden. The thirst for oil has not quenched yet.
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Indian observer
Dec 29, 2014 12:48am
We fear ISIS or Daish are coming to India. They seem to attract recruits so easily. We Indians will not be able to handle them.
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Yawar
Dec 29, 2014 02:21am
Losers with no hope in life have to do something
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saharkhan
Dec 29, 2014 05:07am
Pray for muslims unity.
Muslims need to forgive and unite with each other all over the world.
That is the only path to move forward.
unite stop killing muslims from both side.
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M. Ahmed
Dec 29, 2014 07:00am
ISIS is a creation of Mossad and Saudi intelligence to counter Iran and Hezbollah influence in the region.
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Mushtaq
Dec 30, 2014 09:10am
@fida sayani USA "American" almost always means and includes their back door aka "Saudi" KSA. Check out also on the US role in the North African, South American etc. conflicts in the past many decades.
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