MQM committee defends Altaf’s speech
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KARACHI: The Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) denied on Sunday that its London-based chief Altaf Hussain had talked about seeking “help from India, Nato and the United Nations” in his speech at a party programme held in the United States on Saturday.
The MQM coordination committee held a late-night press conference in response to widespread criticism of Mr Hussain’s latest remarks.
Party leader Dr Farooq Sattar said Mr Hussain’s speech was within the parameters of the Constitution of Pakistan.
Also read: MQM submits letter to UN chief over alleged mistreatment of activists
“The MQM and Altaf Hussain are inseparable,” he declared. “He is struggling for the rights of Mohajirs and [was] speaking on behalf of 50 million Mohajirs.”
In response to Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan’s remarks that Mr Hussain was giving controversial statements because of cases against him in London, Dr Sattar said they had been pending for five years. “Has Altaf Bhai been speaking like this for the past five years?” he asked.
He said Altaf Hussain had held pro-military rallies in Karachi, but the ongoing targeted operation in the city had been turned against the MQM.
He claimed that scores of MQM workers had been ‘missing’, dozens had been killed in an extrajudicial manner and hundreds detained without charges.
“No-one is listening to us... What should we do if we don’t get justice,” he said, adding that the MQM had demanded a judicial commission on the issue but it had not been set up.
“Is this an unjust demand?” he asked.
He said: “We should be told who will ensure an impartial investigation into enforced disappearances and extrajudicial killings of our workers.”
The MQM committee also criticised statements of Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and Balochistan Home Minister Sarfaraz Bugti about Mr Hussain’s speech and said he had spoken only the truth.
The committee asked why the chief minister had remained tight-lipped when Defence Minister Khawaja Asif issued an allegedly provocative statement against the armed forces.
Published in Dawn, August 3rd, 2015
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Aug 03, 2015 07:06am
such a misery for MQM party workers to defend altaf hussain after every speech..
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Aug 03, 2015 07:22am
The down turn of MQM has started. It seems the way they dealt Karachiites the same they have been treated. People are looked happy and satisfied. The daily bread earner and businessmen of the city are more confident than before to do their jobs rather than to count killings and scare ransoms while sit at home because of every second day strikes.
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Aug 03, 2015 07:24am
MQM followers have to stop defending Altaf Hussain. His various speeches and involvement in terror activities are a clear evidence.
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Aug 03, 2015 07:25am
@sam
Why wouldn't they? Their lives are on the line.
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Aug 03, 2015 07:25am
I was present in Dallas, with first hand knowledge; facts have been twisted to present the extreme view on the given topic.
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Aug 03, 2015 07:26am
Altaf Hussain does not speak for the 50 million people as Mr. Sattar has claimed. If he was such a genuine leader then he would prefer staying in the country instead of fleeing to a foreign land.
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Aug 03, 2015 07:26am
Doctor sahib you are with Pakistan or with Altaf Hussain, Please decide ?
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Aug 03, 2015 07:27am
Can anyone answer why there is harresment, injustice and violation of HR in Karachi. Why MQM is being pushed to wall? Arrest those involved in crimes but don't create panic and hate. Is there again a 'game' being hatched to create space for 'others'.
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Aug 03, 2015 07:27am
I don't envy the job of the MQM media people. It seems every other day they are asked to perform logical acrobatics to justify, minimize and reinterpret the increasingly unhinged outbursts of their Quaid.
I would give them an A for effort, an A for loyalty, but nevertheless an F for effectiveness because at the end of the day you can't defend the indefensible irrespective of how adept you are at deflecting, dissembling and sophistry.
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Aug 03, 2015 07:33am
Altaf is damaging not just to MQM, but also PAKISTAN. I agree with Ch Nisar, although I'm PTI supporter
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Aug 03, 2015 07:37am
Why doesn't MQM cut off its connections with its militia wing and clear itself once and for all.
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Aug 03, 2015 07:47am
defending is understandable, or else they know the ramifications all too well, what i would like to see them do is own his speeches rather then offer clarifications or denials ...this they never do, repeat their great leaders words instead of simply saying inshallah bhai inshallah, then we know their true loyalty.....
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Aug 03, 2015 07:57am
@Bhai Jan that would mean cutting off ties with Altaf bhai
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Aug 03, 2015 07:57am
Interior Minister should stop rhetoric. If he has any ground, then court whether it be in Pakistan or England, is the place for impartial decision.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:00am
Dr Farooq please don not defend the indefensible, we all know your credentials as patriotic and great mayor of karachi.Its hihg time you should speak your mind and relieve all similar trapped MQM cadre.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:03am
MQM must unconditionally abandon its militant group before expecting any concessions from the govt.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:11am
@Hasan Would you please be more explicit and tell us what he actually said vs. what is reported? The excerpts I have heard support the view of Nisar etc.Where could one download his whole speech?
Tired-of-defending-him.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:12am
@AXH the results of NA246 is infront of us and after judicial commission's report we know that the mandate of MQM in urban sindh is a realty. Its about time to accept the truth.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:15am
When can we expect his next resignation?
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Aug 03, 2015 08:16am
@AXH You are spot on. Real leaders stay with their followers rather than enjoying life in far off lands.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:21am
Nawaz Shareef has ever met Altaf Bhai on his numerous trips to London.
Just wondering!
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Aug 03, 2015 08:22am
ridiculous!
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Aug 03, 2015 08:23am
@Bhai Jan cannot do that they survive on fear once they let go if there militant wing they won't even have 25% of seats
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Aug 03, 2015 08:27am
Mr. Farooq Sattar did not mention those clause of the Constitution of Pakistan under which he (Sattar) considers the speech to be within its parameters!
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Aug 03, 2015 08:30am
There is NO denying of MQM as a pllitical force. But their leadership has to come out clean. The fact is that sindh is divided in 2. Urdu speaking will not vote for sindhi speaking and sindhi will not vote for urdu speaking. Especially interior sindh really dont have any choice but to bote for ppp. karachi may give a couple of seats to pti or PPP. One should seriously consider making of smaller units. It is the logical option.
Ppp talks about splitting punjab all the time. Why not sindh????
Probably both mqm and ppp will not need tgeir militant wings then if the power is split.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:31am
@AXH well said.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:32am
50 Million????? Well i don't agree...If this is true than I believe Altaf Huusain should have been the PM of Pakistan.....
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Aug 03, 2015 08:35am
For record, between 2008-2013, 8000 people were target killed in Karachi. All I have to say is Well done Sindh Rangers.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:37am
All Pakistani politicians must live in Pakistan and serve Pakistanis. No more long-distance politicking, slogans or empty speeches. Live in Pakistan, roll up the sleeves & go to work, solving public problem, clean water, electricity, education, healthcare problems. People of Pakistan want result-oriented political leaders because people of Pakistan are NOT stupid.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:40am
@Hasan Bhai then tell us what is the truth you heard in Dallas but without twisting
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Aug 03, 2015 08:40am
@AYK Well said....they exaggerate their number to show they are much bigger than they really are. their population si no more than 50% of karachi and Hyderabad.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:41am
@AYK, Yes you are right. In Sindh 39.5 million are Sindhis & 12-13 million are Urdu Speaking. The person you replying to was rounding off everyone.
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Aug 03, 2015 08:43am
@SAS Mr Hussaon is not helping through his speeches, is he?
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Aug 03, 2015 08:48am
I wonder where does Mr. Farooq Sattar get his statistics on population! This is the second time I have come across someone from the same party, who has claimed the greatly disputed figures of "50 million" (remember: there has been no population census since 1998).
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Aug 03, 2015 08:48am
@Akil Akhtar, even Hyderabad is exaggerated. Out of 6 provincial seats, PPP has 4 & MQM 2. In NA seats PPP has 2 & MQM 1.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:08am
@Hasan
Please enlighten us with the real facts?
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Aug 03, 2015 09:12am
@Hasan What was said then could you please disclose facts
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Aug 03, 2015 09:17am
We should not distinguish between those who are terrorist or those who defend them.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:18am
......... It hurts when the city you claim to control is no more in your control. Congrats resilient Karachiites, you celebrated removal of shackles beautifully during the month of Ramadhan... !
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Aug 03, 2015 09:19am
That's true. The sincere workers of MQM are caught in a dilemma!
Quaid-e-tehreek is loosing traction. I invite the MQM followers to read my one page post on facebook. Title is: "OPEN AND CANDID COMMUNICATIONS WITH MQM! "
You will feel enlightened! Satisfaction is guaranteed.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:19am
What justice is he talking about ? MQM is getting the same justice that all other Pakistanis are getting. In fact, MQM has made life extremely difficult for other Pakistanis and for Pakistan.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:21am
Seriously.. how stupid do you think we are...??
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Aug 03, 2015 09:22am
These people have killed maimed many, threatened businesses as well as people
as long as I can remember. These people have no idea what a human should be. From goat skin collection threats to daily threats for donations from small businesses, they have ruined their respect and credibility! I have experienced this on a personal level from them. Yes my parents migrated from one part of India to the separated part of then also India I am son of the soil and not a Mohajir.
Get rid of these people .
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Aug 03, 2015 09:25am
Bunch of AHs represent this party. Stop this non sense.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:27am
@Eik Pakistani
That provides no justification for the diatribe. Think positive and clear. Altaf bhai is loosing a bit of traction. PTI following is on the rise in Karachi and elsewhere including the US.
PTI holds the future of this nation. Like America, we believe in a society where there is no discrimination based on ethnicity, color, region, color of skin or the like.
True, there have been misgivings from PPP and this has continued for rather long. Unwarranted!
But how do you justify rubbing shoulders with PTI in Karachi!
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Aug 03, 2015 09:28am
If feel sorry for these MQM members. They have been asked way too much, to carry way too much load, paying too much to stay alive and doing too much to keep their loved ones alive. Cost of association with is too much. Entire Muhajir nation & MQM suffers because of Altaf Hussain.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:29am
@SAS
Your concerns have been addressed in my post. Also, please see my reply to Eik Pakistani. Sincerely!
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Aug 03, 2015 09:38am
@aj - well said. As you sow so shall you reap.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:41am
Altaf Hussain has just revealed the truth which so many people can not digest.. instead of blindly criticizing Altaf Hussian we must learn from the history and ensure the justice.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:43am
This party should been banned already!!
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Aug 03, 2015 09:43am
@RazaG
You are so correct sir!
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Aug 03, 2015 09:44am
In Australia the PM got rid of the speaker of the house for misuse of just $5000 for a helicopter ride for party function which was not for govt business. He was forced to take action by his own party members who threatened him with his own leadership because it was causing angst amongst the public. Compare that level of morals to ours.....you would realise why we are a laughing stock around the world.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:45am
@Mjb
I agree sir.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:47am
These kind of people are bringing bad name to all migrants (Muhajirs) and negating the sacrifices of our forefathers. such a shame. They are not sincere to anyone.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:51am
@EAGLE STRIKE You have any idea of target killing during 2001 till 2007....? obviously you do not have the idea...even at that time you may not be familiar with the term "target killing" that was the era when the representative of Karachiittes were having authoritarian powers. The history of Karachi is not only 2008 -2013... you need to know little more....
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Aug 03, 2015 09:54am
Really Sattar Bhai that is all you can do! please do not try to defend Altaf Sahib. He maybe your leader but he has lost almost all the credibility. MQM can do much better with out Altaf Sahib.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:56am
Simply MQM don't want peace in Karachi.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:56am
MQM might have done all those crimes but all should be done according to the law to bring their crimes to justice. Otherwise you are making MQM a stronger party if its supporters feel victimized.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:56am
MQM defending target killers and Bhatta mafia.
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Aug 03, 2015 09:57am
All sympathies with Farooq Sattar as he is doing the most difficult thing of his political career i.e. defending Altaf Hussain after his recent speech.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:00am
@Saania Hakro, calm down, I was just refering to recent Target killings in Karachi which have increased considerably. And term target killing is concerned that has gained ground from from 1985 and onwards with the culture of mafias in city. Period.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:03am
@Saania Hakro, what kind of justice are you talking about, when will the justice will given to thousands of families who lost loved ones by Target killers.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:03am
@AXH if you have any doubt then come to Karachi and contest an election, have you forgot recent by election NA246, MqM won single handenly against all odds, try again then Karachi will tell you again.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:06am
@Saania Hakro Target killers, bhatta khorz, land grab mafias can't live forever, example is Hitler. No body was more powerful than him yet he faced permanent demise. It's called Karma.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:12am
Thank you Dawn & your moderation team for giving equal opportunities to all Pakistanis .
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Aug 03, 2015 10:15am
They can deny how much they want, I and millions like me heared the speach our selves. MQM is just digging their graves. I am sure the Rangers and Army also took notice.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:20am
@Saania Hakro, By the way do you remember May 12 happened during the time of 2001-2007. The day on which innocent citizens were killed blindly on streets of Karachi with the authoritarian powers you just mentioned.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:23am
I think the next few years there is going to be instability until the status of Urdu speaking people and their right to self determination is not sorted out. MQM's open defiance and taking the issue to UN is making Pakistan laughing stock internationally.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:24am
Only solution is to give right to the people to manage their day to day affair in Urban Sindh thru Local Governments.We daily hear mega corruption cases being investigated by NAB and we find all major political parties are involved except MQM.So please cure the corruption disease and don't go after those who are asking for Local governments.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:25am
I like MQM as a party, But recent remarks by Altaf bhai is not accepable...
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Aug 03, 2015 10:28am
@Hasan You were not the only one who heard him.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:32am
Please don't involve Mahajirs(Urdu speaking) in dirty politics. We are no more mahajirs. If you want to have maajir politics please revert back to Mahajr Qaumi Movement and change party's name.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:33am
such a wonderful gesture by MQM party workers to defend altaf hussain after every speech..
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Aug 03, 2015 10:34am
I think Dr. Sattar has a point "why the chief minister had remained tight-lipped when Defence Minister Khawaja Asif issued an allegedly provocative statement against the armed forces?"
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Aug 03, 2015 10:37am
@EAGLE STRIKE But Rangers is there in Sindh since well before 2008. So what they were doing earlier? They are part of the problem and if they want to be part of solution it must be without discrimination.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:39am
Another denial. better to disown Altaf and run mqm locally. With Altaf there is no future of mqm.
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Aug 03, 2015 10:46am
Why do Altaf Hussain's speeches need to be translated every single time? Does he and the MQM do not give the nation & its people enough credit for having their own brains ?
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Aug 03, 2015 10:54am
@Saania Hakro x - fact is Mqm represents urban sindh, and has the most literate mandate. During the era of Mqm, Karachi was becoming one of the fastest developing cities in the world, thanks to the great nazim mustafa ali kamal and mqm. The truth is mqm will always represent urban sindh no matter wat and altaf bhai will always be leader of Karachi . And by the way I'm born in london just to let you know
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Aug 03, 2015 10:58am
Thank you Rangers. You definitely brought the change in life the common citizen of this Karachi. Please crush these thugs!!!
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Aug 03, 2015 11:04am
I was 100% sure that when I will wake up in the morning they I will hear that Alaf Bhai will apologize or may be even deny from his speech against Pak Army.
Thank you sooo9ooooooooooo Pak Army and Rangers for taking action against Anti Pakistan people
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Aug 03, 2015 11:07am
@EAGLE STRIKE
Sania Hakro would say that why these people came on the roads to receive the then Chief Justice of Pakistan to challenge the authority of "authoritarian powers" given by autocratic/dictatorial rule.
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Aug 03, 2015 11:10am
Altaf Hussain delivers such speeches deliberately. It seems he wants mqm to be banned
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Aug 03, 2015 11:14am
our government is week who just make statement and nothing do practically.if some one say this in other part of the world,same day one would be behind the bars .
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Aug 03, 2015 11:15am
@SAS , MQM defend their criminals and that is why the whole party in on the line of fire.
Please pass this advise to mqm
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Aug 03, 2015 11:16am
@Adam You were born in London that is why you are saying like this. 'Door k dhol suhane' have you ever heard this?
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Aug 03, 2015 11:19am
@SAS I live in khi in there is no alleged unrest and panick here...v all are very happy with the way things are happening...r u dreaming abt something or ur reality is totally different than that of a common khiit??
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Aug 03, 2015 11:29am
@Hasan .......was altaf in Dallas,USA?How did he manage to survive the journey from UK to USA?Where was he speaking from?USA or UK?please give us details to his rantings.
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Aug 03, 2015 11:34am
their politics is based on "Mohajir" card in Karachi whereas the larger Mohajir population has never participated in their agenda...50,000 die hard fans maybe at best in Khi....fooling the nation yet again with a claim of 5 crore supporters.....shame
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Aug 03, 2015 11:36am
@Eik Pakistani so even if he has a mendate, does that mean he is free to say whatever? There laws and there is constitution to repect and follow.
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Aug 03, 2015 11:43am
"The committee asked why the chief minister had remained tight-lipped when Defence Minister Khawaja Asif issued an allegedly provocative statement against the armed forces"
Chaudhry Nisar should answer the above question to make his talk about justice transparent.
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Aug 03, 2015 11:44am
If Altaf is concerned about 'Muhajirs", why is he sitting in London? Why won't he come to Pakistan and be with the people?
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Aug 03, 2015 11:45am
@Adam all province resources were used in Karachi development leaving rest of the sindh as desert as usual ,thanks to CM of the time Mr.Arbab . Enginners and technology were hired form malaysia . Only Nazim did was to vacate land from kabza mafia which no one could do it because of his contacts.thanks to Nazim.
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Aug 03, 2015 11:52am
mqm is reaping what they sore in 30 years
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Aug 03, 2015 11:53am
MQM and urdu speaking people are two different entities, it doesn't represents urdu speaking people. A party whose agenda is based on hatred, linguistics, deceit, coercion and have an enemy country support doesn't represents urdu speaking people, they are patriotic to the core.
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Aug 03, 2015 11:59am
@Akil Akhtar / As for as Karachi is concerned -according to the various latest estimates, they are down to 42%. And let us not forget, not all of them are card carrying members of the MQM!!!
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Aug 03, 2015 11:59am
No-one is listening to us... What should we do if we don’t get justice,” he said
This is exactly what people of Karachi had been saying for the last 30 years under MQM, PPP and ANP, bhatta khoori and Target killing
Time has come that you stop this nonsense and think like Pakistani if you want to live in Pakistan
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Aug 03, 2015 11:59am
How many times Mr Farooq Sattar will defend Mr Altaf Hussain,his every speech becomes controversial and some one from his party has to defend him by twisting the contents,Mr Hussain should ask his speech writers to avoid statements that end in controversialist,no doubt his listeners do like such speeches that creates haterate his recent speeches have made him controversial to an extent that he has been declared as absconded by law enforcing agencies.
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Aug 03, 2015 12:01pm
Nobody is clean. The big fish will not let the small fish survive, as simple as this. It's time that we remove our support from all political parties in Pakistan and boycott all until new parties with new faces emerge.
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Aug 03, 2015 12:03pm
No doubt there are factions in MQM that require immediate elimination. There are illegal MQM unit offices constructed on footpaths in karachi. Nobody can raise voice as people are afraid of being harmed. Having said the above I must say other parties such as ANP, PPP are equally bad. MQM should not be sidelined if rangers need to eliminate terror from karachi, all three parties should be looked at
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Aug 03, 2015 12:07pm
@SAS you tell us why.... MQM was in power for so many years look what they did to Karachi.
I'm sorry surgery is painful but it has to be done to save the patient!
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Aug 03, 2015 12:12pm
MQM needs to be banned permanently alonmg with PPP
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Aug 03, 2015 12:14pm
@Hasan
We have heard his recent speach , so don't tell us your first hand account.
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Aug 03, 2015 12:18pm
Don't defend AH as it brings more disgrace to MQM as a political party.
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Aug 03, 2015 12:28pm
Is high time for MQM to cut ties with Altaf Hussain and choose new leadership other wise this party should be banned.
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Aug 03, 2015 12:31pm
@Haider Rehman When it comes to MQM are haters are combined aginst Mohajirs. This is the problem why Altaf is appealing to UN as nobody is ready to listen here.
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Aug 03, 2015 12:34pm
@Mjb People forget very soon. Remember NA-246. More than that what they can prove?
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Aug 03, 2015 12:38pm
. MQM workers in Karachi are getting justice. Dr. Farooq is correct the MQM leadership is not getting the justice they deserve.
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Aug 03, 2015 12:44pm
@Riaz Murtaza .... They are not all criminals but all of them have been working with criminals and allowing criminals to operate unchecked in Karachi.
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Aug 03, 2015 12:48pm
@Hasan .... Define "the given topic".
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Aug 03, 2015 12:55pm
@Hasan The video footage of the speech is available on the internet so please do not create doubts. It has clearly called for intervention in Pakistan.
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Aug 03, 2015 12:56pm
Altaf Hussain has crossed all the limits to undermine the state, PM sb should convene All Parties Conference(APC) as soon as possible on the issue of recent threats given by AH.
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Aug 03, 2015 01:03pm
What Mohajirs is Altaf talking about? 70+ years old? For God sake my children and grand children are not Mohajirs. They are born Pakistanis. They do not need a UK citizen representing them. Nor do I. Please lay off your divisive politics. If you really care about us then come and suffer like we do in Pakistan.
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Aug 03, 2015 01:05pm
The representative of (so called) 50 million muhajirs remains in almost all govts since 1988. and were contineously in power 1999 to 2013, and partially since 2013 why the grievnces of muhajirs are not removed, what they were doing in successive govts is an open secret. Nobody all over Pakistan against Karachities (MQM called them muhajirs as and when situation so arises) and they are free to vote a party of their choice. Be fair to Karachities and expel crminal elements from MQM
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Aug 03, 2015 01:17pm
They are all like him, otherwise why would they gather around him, same mindset flock together.
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Aug 03, 2015 01:33pm
@AYK .... My thinking as well.
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Aug 03, 2015 01:37pm
@EAGLE STRIKE .... One person every day. 30 a month. 1600 per year.
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Aug 03, 2015 01:40pm
@Akil Akhtar .... Hyderabad. The City of Potholes. It needs Dr. Farooq far more than Karachi to manage public works.
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Aug 03, 2015 01:46pm
@Asgher Ali : Sir, It's not us who claim ourselves Muhajir. It's the mindset of people out side Karachi who call us Muhajir's or urdu speaking. Well there is no harm in it unless you have been discriminated on such grounds. Please don't be so naive and accept that we are facing such kind of behavior from our country man else what is the logic of asking the stupid question, Aap ka taa'luq Kahan say hay ? Just answer him "Karachi" and feel the difference.
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Aug 03, 2015 02:22pm
@Zibbi .... He is doing a damned good job of it.
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Aug 03, 2015 02:25pm
@SAS answer lies in the response of the operation
Reduction in crimes if bhatha and kidnapping
Improved record sales on Eid and happier traders
Relieved karachiates
No one is on the road protesting.
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Aug 03, 2015 02:40pm
We must drop double standards and stop twisting facts if we want to save Pakistan. Didn't PPP ask for UN and Scotland Yard help? Didn't PML-N seek and use KSA intervention and help? Didn't PML-N and PTI supported and got support from Talibans? Is Government not seeking UK's help? MQM has only asked for UN investigation into treatment of its workers and supports. Government has already banned AH's speech broadcast in Pakistan as AH or MQM does not exist; then why to worry about what they say.
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Aug 03, 2015 02:40pm
bad governance from PPP will keep the MQM support intact. PTI is a alternative but they would not be able to form a gov as people in interior Sindh are not getting enough coverage of what PTI is saying. thanks to Pervaiz musharref PML n has lost its footing in sindh.
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Aug 03, 2015 02:54pm
@Keenobserver and others: The apparently peaceful situation in Karachi is temporary. Rangers have been in Karachi for more than 25 years and Karachi has seen many minor and major operations. The current tactics have been tried in the past. These are not permanent solutions. The permanent solution is to respect the people's political choice. Despite MQM's limited influence in respective governments, Karachi has seen the most progress and development when MQM got elected and managed LBs - whether it is under mayorship of Farooq Sattar in 80s or Mustafa Kamal in 2000s.
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Aug 03, 2015 02:56pm
@SAS judge by the overall results without bias. I
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Aug 03, 2015 03:00pm
When it can't even provide basic rights for its own citizens, it would further weak Pakistan's stance on issues where it vigorously advocates for Muslim's 'rights'.
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Aug 03, 2015 03:07pm
Truth shall them free. PML-N and PPP is using rangers to settle political score. They think they can wrestle Karachi from MQM by killing and maiming MQM workers, they are living in fool's paradise.
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Aug 03, 2015 03:12pm
"who will ensure an impartial investigation into enforced disappearances and extrajudicial killings of our workers.”
Call for UN is right, also bring back the CAPITAL Karachi.
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Aug 03, 2015 03:15pm
@SAS MQM is being investigated because most of their workers are committing crimes in karachi
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Aug 03, 2015 03:23pm
@Hasan --- You can make fool one at one time, you can make fool all at one time but you cannot make fool all at all times.
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Aug 03, 2015 03:49pm
@Eik Pakistani But that mandate doesn't mean to hamper everyday life of Karachiites by killing, torturing, extortion, and creating a dadagiri state within state.
Can you please tell me is Karachiites feel more safer after operation or before operation?
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Aug 03, 2015 03:58pm
@PERVAIZ uk Talking without proofs is kind of hanging without trial....i m sure you have never been in Karachi but commenting to MQM and Karachi is a your forceful duty. isn't?
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Aug 03, 2015 04:14pm
Any one who defends leaders, talking against the nations soverignity, must be brought back and tried for treason. Mohajirs will never support foreign troops to enter pakistan. These people and their forefathers gave everything to make this nation, not for it to be betrayed in their name. Only the crooked corrupt treason filled politicians will support it, as their agenda is the same as the enemies.
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Aug 03, 2015 04:20pm
dear @chaudhary in todays dynamic world there is no such thing as permanent peace. we should appreciate fact that karachi is now improving visavis law and order. when people like you question status of peace in karachi it seriously seems you dont like workers of political parties with criminal record being apprehended. nothing is absolute but we should appreciate good things done by LEAs.
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Aug 03, 2015 04:26pm
in Farooq Sattar statement please read
1. “He is struggling for the rights of Mohajirs and [was] speaking on behalf of 50 million Mohajirs.”
2. “No-one is listening to us... What should we do if we don’t get justice,”
I would ask what are their demands, what unjust is being done to them, what problems they have ....
are they not getting:
- jobs ?
- electricity
- education
- employment
- political presentation
- social life
- communal life
- passports / NICs
- govt jobs
- protection as good as for other citizens ?
- army enrollments ?
- police employments ?
- inter community marriages ?
what are their demand, please some one share with us as what exactly they are not getting for which that UK-Guy is struggling and fighting. and what kind of justice 'they' want to have just for themselves. please Dawn throw some light on such issues... earnestly seeking reply.
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Aug 03, 2015 04:26pm
Pakistan does not understand the problem. Rightly or wrongly over 20 million of the 25 million Muhajirs (children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren of people born in pre-partition India) in Karachi and Sindh support Altaf. How can you erase that. THAT is the dilemma. The only solution would have been the rise of someone else to represent the interests of these 20 million. Who is that?? That is where the 'sons of the soil', the Army, the bureaucracy, the feudals, the industrialists, the intellectuals have failed. That is why Altaf is where he is in terms of his hold on these 20 million.
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Aug 03, 2015 04:35pm
MQM must have Pakistan based chief instead of foreign socialized leader, thus party requires Pakistan based chief who can feel the aspirations of people among them
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Aug 03, 2015 04:50pm
Founders have become defenders now. What others are doing?
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Aug 03, 2015 05:00pm
@kamal Can you please give a few examples of how exactly and where the so called mohajirs are being discriminated against in Pakistan? It's all well for MQM to keep singing this tune but where exactly is the discrimination? I have come across Urdu speaking (Mohajirs according to MQM) who are doctors, lawyers, airline pilots, policemen, army officers, politicians and everything in between so I have no idea what the MQM supporters are talking about.
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Aug 03, 2015 05:08pm
I will die on my on will, that is MQM's will for dying for nothing.
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Aug 03, 2015 05:08pm
How long they will be called mohajir? Half a Pakistan is mohajir?
They should become Pakistanis now instead playing as a persecuted community to get the sympathies.
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Aug 03, 2015 05:18pm
@kamal there is nothing wrong in supporting altaf but supporting and defending his anti state speeches is wrong. Care to explain why he spits venom against state institutions? I'm sorry but mohajirs aren't being persecuted in Karachi. You paint the wrong picture when you say mohajirs are being targeted in Karachi. Secondly not all mohajirs are pro mqm. That is another wrong perception.
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Aug 03, 2015 05:30pm
@Ailly Just look at the Sindh govt. 99.9 percent of all top positions are held by Sindhis. Al district management positions , all police positions (even in Karachi and hyderabad) are held by Sindhis. They have something called Quota System which makes sure that nobody can get a job in the government except Sindhis. Same holds for education.
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Aug 03, 2015 06:10pm
@mirza governor of sindh is a mohajir. Army chief btwn 1999 and 2007 was mohajir. No Sindhi ever held post of army chief but Sindhi's don't protest and raise voice of discrimination. Secondly protest doesn't mean abusing and maligning state institutions. PPP protested against hanging of ZAB yet never abused the army or called for raw's help
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Aug 03, 2015 06:22pm
@Shahid
Can you live in the present? slavery is long gone my friend. This is called unity in a free world and believing in a notion!
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Aug 03, 2015 06:32pm
so-called spoke persons have lost their minds.hearts they never had.
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Aug 03, 2015 06:44pm
What happen to Altaf Hussain hunger strike, I was laughing when read he is waiting for the permission form UK authorities , I'm Pakistan where he lived half is life he dad No Respect for law in UK where he is living just for 20 years very much respect.
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Aug 03, 2015 07:30pm
@Zibbi Discrimination means incompetence. So the system is not competent.
What about the private sector which generates above 80% of growth. Why every thing rotates around government. Think openly.
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Aug 04, 2015 12:41am
@AXH Do you know the results of last election? You may not like it MQM represents Mohajirs; what do you think PTI or JI represents Mohajirs.
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Aug 04, 2015 12:46am
@Tariq K Sami He was busy watches and real estate.
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Aug 04, 2015 01:16am
The best way to deal with Altaf Hussain is simply ignore what he is saying or what he is doing.
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Aug 04, 2015 10:39am
@Syed Ali PTI represents Pakistanis from every seat they have won including Karachi
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Aug 04, 2015 10:51am
@Adam No one is always the leader as everyone has to go from this world one day.
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Aug 04, 2015 12:10pm
@Azmeen Even if they have a militant wing, their people should be trialed and tested in courts. Human right violations are being done by rangers and police openly that should be stopped at any cost.
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Aug 04, 2015 12:11pm
@Zibbi why would he do that?
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Aug 04, 2015 03:38pm
Karachi and Hyd represent 22.5 million of people that too is not solely related to MQM. Such an over-exagerrated words.
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Aug 04, 2015 03:42pm
@Hasan , I was also in DALLAS at that time . Nothing has been twisted. Don't defend Altaf for nothing, Saadat
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Aug 05, 2015 01:18am
Altaf Hussain and anyone who supports him should be brought to justice.
How can you support a person who is creating trouble and chios in Karachi with help of our enemy.
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Aug 05, 2015 02:53am
I know Zardari has met Altaf Bhai on many occasions and has sent Rahman Mallick numerous times to meet Altaf and hammer out the differences.
Has Nawaz Shareef ever met Altaf Bhai on his many trips to London.
Just wondering!
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Aug 05, 2015 02:55am
@sam : Don't trick yourself. MQM party workers know exactly what the boss means.
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Aug 05, 2015 08:49am
@AXH;
He does not stay in Pakistan because his enemies are criminals and murderers.
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Aug 05, 2015 10:05am
@mirza you are right. please rise up for your due rights but not with arms and terrorism.
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Aug 05, 2015 11:09am
@Cyrus / No body has said that all of them are criminals,but question must be asked, how come majority of the apprehended criminals are affiliated with one party?
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