Allowing spot-fixing trio back will be biggest injustice: Latif
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Former Pakistan captain and match-fixing whistle-blower Rashid Latif has criticised former players and experts for backing the tainted trio of Mohammad Amir, Mohammad Asif and Salman Butt after the ICC announced the players would be eligible to return to the game after their ban ends on September 2.
The three players were banned in 2011 over a spot-fixing case which shook the cricket world when it was revealed by the now defunct British tabloid News of the World in August 2010.
Amir's five-year ban was relaxed in January this year after the ICC amended its anti-corruption code, which allowed him to play domestic cricket in Pakistan six months before his ban expired.
And the ICC, on Thursday, said both Asif and Butt had also completed their rehabilitation and now all three players were free to play domestic and international cricket.
But the former wicketkeeper Latif, who played 166 ODIs and 37 Tests for Pakistan, said the trio did not deserve a second chance.
“I will not support their comeback to international cricket simply because they will replace someone who might not be as talented as them but has done nothing ethnically or morally wrong and had not indulged in corruption,” Latif told PTI.
“This is the biggest injustice you can do to players who play clean cricket.”
Latif, who exposed corruption in the team in the 90s leading to the life bans on Salim Malik and Ata ur Rehman, said Pakistan should not repeat the same mistake.
“The way I look at this situation it is very wrong for that person to play again for Pakistan who has been involved in corruption and cheating. It is not right for those players who have played by the rules,” Latif said.
Left-handed batsman Butt is likely to play for Lahore Blues in the National Twenty20 starting early next month while Asif too has expressed an interest in return to the domestic scene.
Responding to the development, Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Shaharyar Khan said he would wait for the written ICC decision on the the players before giving his reaction.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:37pm
They must NEVER play cricket again or it will only encourage others to do the same!!
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Aug 20, 2015 04:39pm
would be disastrous for pakistan cricket and more youngsters will choose same path....
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Aug 20, 2015 04:39pm
YES YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
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Aug 20, 2015 04:40pm
The trio have suffered consequences of their anomaly. To quote Michael Holding 'they have not killed anyone'. Time to move on Mr. Rashid Latif. Don't live in the past.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:41pm
100% agree with Rashid Latif.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:43pm
I dont agree... They have completed their punishment, so let them play if they can come on merit list.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:44pm
I believe they made a mistake. They were set up, and did not do anything to affect their game. It was a minor thing, that of bowling no-balls at specific balls. They have stayed out of the game for a long time. Now they must be forgiven.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:45pm
The trio had faced due punishment including the imprisonment, hefty fines and playing ban. Now what else you want?
They deserve another chance to play but on merit.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:46pm
Agree with Rashid Latif.
But when we have likes of Nawaz Sharif and Zardari represent country at highest level then they can represent Pakistan as well.
Pakistani's immune system is use to of corruption and have lost basic moral values.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:48pm
Once bitten is twice shy. We must not punish further the already enough punished and castigated trio.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:48pm
Corrupt politicians, civil officers and others in power used NRO to get back without a question being asked not to talk of any sentence. Wrong traditions must not be followed but these guys did serve their sentence. Amir being a teenager at the time and the first one to frankly admit his guilt may at least be allowed back.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:49pm
Allowing Rashid Latif to speak on media is an injustice to sanity..I support their return to international Cricket. Infact, Rashid Latif was an ordinary player he does not know the charm of being legend.. Asif & Amir living legends..yes legends do make mistake
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Aug 20, 2015 04:49pm
I fully agree with Rashid Latif. There should be Zero Tolerance on corruption. We are setting a wrong example. What a shame.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:51pm
@SOS : How would this encourage others? Was their punishment too prosperous? Imagine what would have been their net worth even without any fixing during all these prime years of their playing life?
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Aug 20, 2015 04:52pm
@JS
Yes you are right, we always look forward as we did in the past in the form NRO. By the they did not commit a mistake rather had done wrongful act so Rashid Latif is right. As a move forward we should make more strict rules, so that no one dares to do wrong in future.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:52pm
It will justify corruption and corrupt practices. They must left cricket for good if they have an iota of morality. Same for cricket board.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:54pm
Every body deserve a 2nd chance in life.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:55pm
No matter how we may lack / suffer in our bowling or batting the trio must not be allowed to return to cricket. They had brought bad name to our country and would set a bad precedent if they are allowed to return. Again Aamir was not a small boy but why he is being treated differently from the other two.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:55pm
recently Wasim Akram found 18 new young talented fast bowlers, why dont we concentrate on them instead of setting a bad example for new comers .
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Aug 20, 2015 04:55pm
What to talk about letting them play they should rather be kicked at their back everyday.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:56pm
Rashid is miserably wrong here. If someone has completed his/her punishment, he/she is clean and this is a universal truth. Though, due to tainted past, these players will remain under scanner.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:56pm
I want the best players with results to play. I am tired of hoping for one-man show miracles to happen. The trio were talented and in their top gear when this happened. education and grooming is required. Lets hope their comebacks are better than the comebacks the Akmals do.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:56pm
@Uzair Azam
Lance Edward Armstrong was world class cyclist but when doping proved on him, he had to return all his medals and quit cycling. Justice is blind.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:57pm
They already got there punishment and we have to forgive them. If our corrupt politicians can come back again and again then these players have the right. At least they have accepted there sin.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:58pm
@ Rashid Latif, Did you apologize for claiming dropped catch against Bangladesh?
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Aug 20, 2015 05:04pm
Guilty no more.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:05pm
is their any morals
this trio has maligned and disgrace Pakistan
a man get caught red-handed taking bribes on the name of Pakistan.
he should have been been trialed and put behind bars for at least 20 years .
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Aug 20, 2015 05:05pm
Who is Latif to talk about three players,I think they served their punishment and they should be given a chance to play international cricket for their country,and yes they have to prove that they are fit enough to play.so let them play and prove the critic wrong.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:09pm
Latif is correct but in Pakistan denial is the national character & corruption seen as a necessity. For this reason only they will likely be playing again in the national team.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:10pm
Rashid! your reaction suggests that we are all living in a world of angels. If a person has accepted that he made a mistake and has also suffered the awarded punishment, who are you to object to their return to normal life? Don't try be a judge. Let the things take shape as they come.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:12pm
@Uzair Azam a mistake is made in the game like a dropped catch a bad shot etc but these dudes did not make a mistake they blatantly cheated for monetary gain tarnishing further whatever good name pakistani cricket had left.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:14pm
Rashid Bhai, you have been an advocate of highlighting wrong doings in the team and so many players must have gone scott free after ill-doing. In this scenario, 3 people were caught, punished, served their punishment and then are aspiring for a new lease in their careers. What is a person who stole Rs 1000 from a pocket, was sent to jail for 5 days. Will he be any less than a person who has never picked a pocket?
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Aug 20, 2015 05:14pm
Latin needs to look into the future and move on. They have completed their punishment, so let them play if they can come on merit list. Selection on Merit should be observed.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:17pm
At least some one from Pakistan is speaking sane
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Aug 20, 2015 05:18pm
A simple question to all the supporters. Will you ever keep the same servant at home once you find out that he had been stealing goods from your home ? You will immediately fire him and look for the next one..They have cheated the Pakistan team and that's where they should never land again. Let them play all other leagues to make money ..
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Aug 20, 2015 05:19pm
I disagree with Rashid Latiff simply cause when almighty forgives us on our continues mistakes then who is he to be the judge . They have served their time & must be given a 2nd chance . We are all human & prone to make mistakes but that does not mean that you shun them out. Have sympathy people & do not try to be Judge & executioner. If almighty had use the same measurement on us than we as humans don't have a chance on the day of judgement.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:21pm
A precedent is being created whereby players will do match fixing,earn loads of money and come back again after their bans are over. Rashid is rite, such players shouldn't be allowed again.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:22pm
Those saying it was minor mistake I will must suggest them to visit abroad nd listen cricketers to know how they thing of you now especially in clubs
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Aug 20, 2015 05:23pm
Amir definitely deserves to play. He was clearly manipulated into doing what he did. The biggest injustice will be for the world not to witness the talent of that young man. He was so impressive and if he can return to his previous form, he will lead Pakistan's pace attack back to being a feared one.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:24pm
Why not when Zardari becomes our President and Nawaz Sharif as our Prime minister, after spending time in Jail and covicted then why not these cricketers ?
All three should comeback if they are good enough , because their comeback is an example for youngsters and their presence in team will remind every player of wrong doing and consequences , these players have paid more than what they have done. Everyone should get second chance in life why not even Nawaz sharif got 3rd time :)
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Aug 20, 2015 05:25pm
SALMAN and ASIF should never be allowed to play Cricket ever again as they were found guilty of match match for over three years in London Crown Court.
Salman is banned for life for entering to United Kingdom While Asif is also banned for life for entering to UAE
Regarding Mohammed Ammar may be he should be given a second chance as he admitted of his wrongdoing as well as he was very young.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:25pm
These players will create unrest in the dressing room. How can a player sit with the teammates who are known for throwing matches just for the money! They should be allowed to play domestic cricket but making them part of national team will harm the game.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:37pm
Me rashid latif needs to
Open his eyes and see that cricket has turned into WWF since a decade where everything is pretty much scripted and spot fixed. He should clean up cricket and not the players playing the game .Cricket is not a gentleman game now like it use to be. These players were setup and Pcb never stood to defend them . I bet my bottom dollar 70 percent of Players still spot fix games .
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Aug 20, 2015 05:40pm
@Uzair Azam Whats fools paradise you live in the best keeper the pakistan have ever seen. Compromise his career to expose match fixers like
salim malik , waseem akram and others. Win a test match which pakistan suppose to losse. Result kicked out of team only to return in the last days of his careers.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:40pm
They deserve another chance.they hadn't fix the match just a no ball.minor mistake get maximum punishment.no need for more punishment
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Aug 20, 2015 05:42pm
I respect Rashid Latif and rate him as the best wicket keeper Pakistan has ever produced but his remarks seems too harsh. some one who committed mistake and get penalized/ punished for the act must get the chance to prove himself as the improved person. The crime done by them was big so did the penalty. They already paid the price in terms of honor,fame & money let them give some space. I am sure the trio has learned a lot during this period and their come back (in case they really deserve the place in National team) will benefit Pakistan Cricket.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:43pm
Remember the punishment they got is only for what they are caught for there is always a big big suspicion on asif and salman. To many time salman have run out so many pakistani players .The only thing is people do not remember
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Aug 20, 2015 05:44pm
Reading so many comments against trio, i feel bad as there is no tolerance among brothers. I accept that what they did was wrong, but who doesnt commit mistakes. Nobody is perfect in this world. Remember they were trapped and it was a clear conspiracy against best bowling partners after two W's.
Guys give them a break and accept them whole heartedly. Where they will go if we as brothers will not pardon them and embrace them.
We are a Muslim nation and we should be tolerant especially to people who have commit mistakes, got punished and want to start a new life.... forgive them please.... thanks
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Aug 20, 2015 05:45pm
Wow it sounds like a good deal. Here is the full circle -
1. I play international cricket
2. I fix match to make millions illegally
3. I don't get caught and continue my money making act under cover
4. I get caught and spend some jail and ban time
5. I play international cricket again
Not a bad strategy!!!
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Aug 20, 2015 05:45pm
Such pious, loyal, honest and loving every citizen of Pakistan are ! MashaAllah! guess there is no place for this guilty trio in the land of the pure!
Grow UP guys! everyone deserves a second chance, look at your self how you promote your ethics in your neighborhood, city, country and aboard.
They made mistake, got caught and paid high price, no need to make them suffer anymore.. live and let live...
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Aug 20, 2015 05:46pm
They lost so many years of their life as a cricketer so it's sufficient punishment. For them it's like starting from the scratch again. And this won't encourage others to do the same as cricket has become more commercial now. One can earn enough money from endorsements etc. and the celebrity status is a cherry on the top. So cricketers, whether senior or junior, won't put their career on stake now.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:46pm
It is a catch 22 situation. At the time when these players committed this crime, I was of the opinion, that ban them for life. But there was no such provision in ICC nor did UK courts where the crime was carried out imposed life on them. Now, as ICC has lifted the ban and allowed these players to continue their careers, the players should be allowed to return to make a living. However, I doubt beside Amir who is young enough will be able to make a successful return to international cricket.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:47pm
Well, I agree but then this is our system who allows convicted criminals and match-fixers (read famous justice qayyum's report) to become coaches (waqar and mushshi) as well as mentors (wasim akram). So why not then give these three the same chance?
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Aug 20, 2015 05:49pm
Rashid Latif sahb Let it goooo Let it goooo
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Aug 20, 2015 05:49pm
I agree everyone should be allowed back after their punishment and deserves a second chance BUT after serving a just punishment. I don't think 5 years is adequate nor is it a deterrence. 10 years should be the punishment.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:50pm
I am a big fan of Rashid but on this point not agreed, they got tough punishment and now completed their rehabilitation and now there is no law and no one in the world have a right to spoil their and their families life further..if they play well they even deserve to play at international level...
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Aug 20, 2015 05:50pm
They have commit a Mistake but done an Organized Crime......
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Aug 20, 2015 05:56pm
@M.Saeed It would be encouraging when a youngster would see that IF I get caught, I'll serve time and make my way back into the side hence it will make it worth it to take the risk and do spot-fixing/match-fixing. Have you seen a Government servant in a society which is corruption free to be sentenced to prison for wrong-doings and return to the same post after serving time? I believe they are barred for life to be employed by the government again, it's only common sense and I am only applying the same to their case, common sense!!
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Aug 20, 2015 05:56pm
@Huzifa K: Brother you skipped the major step let me clear it for you. After punishment you lost fame, you lost credibility, you lost money. Your come back might give back you money but you really need to prove yourself for getting back your lost Fame & credibility. Hence the come back for these three would never been easy just wait and watch.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:59pm
Being a Muslim nation we must put a strong stand of honesty and zero tolerance for corruption. At least in sports.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:59pm
Murderer's even get 2nd chance in life....and they are monitored.
They made a mistake, got punished, repented and now let them start from scratch again.
Monitor them, why not...monitor them and see how they behave.
However, if a youngster is promising and better than them then obviously PCB should consider him first. It's not a rocket science.
But don't write them off please. Don't punish them as if they looted nation's wealth!
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Aug 20, 2015 06:00pm
Why didnt you object to Dhoni still playing after so many allegations!
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Aug 20, 2015 06:01pm
They should be allowed to play. They have served their punishment and that's that!
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Aug 20, 2015 06:07pm
Agree with Rashid Latif here. Kudos to him for taking such an honorable and truthful stand
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Aug 20, 2015 06:10pm
I think they have served their punishment. And if they are still good enough to represent Pakistan at international level then they should be a given a chance in the side. After all only the best players should play for Pakistan and if certain players in the current setup are not good enough compared to the trio then they should be excluded from the side. It would be ethically wrong to exclude certain players who have committed a bad act and consequently served their punishment to the inclusion of mediocre players just because they haven't done anything wrong.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:11pm
All the self-righteous should just keep quiet. Who is Rashid Lateef to pass a new sentence when the trio have already served their sentences awarded by the relevant authorities?
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Aug 20, 2015 06:11pm
@Akhtar Yes, they made a mistake by lying the nation for years that have not committed any crime. Only after 5 years they realized that their bogus lie won't serve any good for them.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:12pm
They have completed their punishment, if a changed person wants to contribute of country he should not be discouraged, but their inclusion should be subject to outstanding performance only and subject to strict discipline. it will be short sightedness to barred them from playing instead PCB should include better disciplinarians in board.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:12pm
@Habib This is the only one they are caught for Gods know how many matches they have losse for money
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Aug 20, 2015 06:13pm
@ TAHIR A
Being muslim has got nothing to do with this...We make mistakes and heinous ones but God will forgive us....Don't we believe in this? And we are only humans....Why can't we give someone another chance in life.
Only today an Ahmadhi was murdered, is this what muslim suppose to do?
We are living in a country which is secular so referring this instance with being muslim, in my view its disproportionate.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:13pm
@Uzair Azam Yes Rashid was an ordinary player but he did what none of the legends did for Pakistan. he unleashed the true faces of corrupt cricketers and brought some respect to our nation.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:14pm
Fully agreed.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:18pm
Rashid wants to punish them more ... these are the only cricketers ever to serve jail time .. all other countries protect their players ... warne waugh marlon samuels, m dhoni .. all broke the law .. they got a slap a wrist at best .... n boje and gibbs didnt tour india to avoid police questioning .. we on the other hand sent our players to serve jail time abroad ... we still have colonial mindset and ppl like Rashid will not be satisfied even if lynch these boys .. let them play they have paid the big price
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Aug 20, 2015 06:21pm
If I were in place of any one of them, I would have cricket and would kept myself away from public appearances for the rest of my life.
koi sharam hoti hai, koi haya hoti...
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Aug 20, 2015 06:23pm
The trio should NOT be part of national team. They are not trust worthy. period.....
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Aug 20, 2015 06:29pm
@haris If I were in place of any one of them, I would have LEFT cricket and would kept myself away from public for the rest of my life.
koi sharam hoti hai, koi haya hoti...
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Aug 20, 2015 06:31pm
I respect Rashid Latif but I think he sounds like sadist this time. The decision who should play in team should be based on talent. They have already been punished for what they did.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:43pm
If they come again and one of them become super star, then after retirement join the political party and then his basic instinct get alive again ...
Those who are interested to give them chance also have to vote them in future.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:47pm
they admitted, they suffered, they humiliated but now it's enough let them do something good, all of us do mistakes in life. don't say you never did Rashid Latif so let them them show good change I don't agree others will do same as others also know the consequences.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:48pm
every one here does minor corruption, not a big deal. All is well now. What a joke
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Aug 20, 2015 06:55pm
They betrayed our country! Salman and Asif should never play again they never accepted there mistake to be forgiven you should say sorry and accept your mistake! Even if they say accept there mistake they should be set a example of. We should say no to corruption of any sort!!
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Aug 20, 2015 06:57pm
Latif sahaab, they didn't spend 5 years out of the game. Morals above anything else, I agree. But they've paid for their sins.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:59pm
DOnt agree with Mr Latif.
If someone has been punished then he should be given another chance.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:02pm
For all those people that support the comeback of either of the trio should ask themselves at who's expense will they be coming into the team? Will it be Junaid Khan or Mohammad Irfan or Wahab Riaz or any other bowler that proudly represented Pakistan in the last 5 years and put their heart and soul into it to make it into the Pakistani team.
Would you be ok if one of your co worker got fired for cheating and embezzlement of money and then he's hired later on just cause he has been clean the last few years? A lot of us would have a hard time digesting that pill.
I got no issues in them earning their bread and butter playing domestic cricket in Pakistan or elsewhere for that matter, really doubt any domestic team outside of Pakistan even touches them.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:08pm
@Gina. Come on Gina what world are you living in, players even greater than Rashid Latif have claimed dropped catches on numerous occasions or have nicked one to the keeper and don't even flinch let alone walk. One common cricketing incident doesn't really malign his character.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:11pm
@Adeel. We are the ones that vote goons like Zardari and Sharif into power but we don't vote as to who we put in our team.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:11pm
@S.KHAN, you are so proudly talking about Wasim Akram. Don't you know that he too was involved in corruption. Why did you choose to forgive him? He didn't even serve a sentence.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:12pm
Rashid Latif is absolutely right, I could not agree more.
Not a good example for young generation. We already have corruption in all sectors or departments of a country, Please cricket out of corruption. PCB must move out from Lahore.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:15pm
They betrayed Pakistan and should not be taken back in the National team, they can continue their career in playing like IPL, that will suit them.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:15pm
Rashid, as much as I respect you for your integrity and cricket acumen, I do not agree with you here. All three of them should be given a chance based on merit. they have served time for their crime, a punishment handed out by governing body and court of law. Now banishing them for life is not justified. Five years of their career in prime are taken away from them. If they can still make it to the team on merit then they deserve to be there.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:15pm
There is always a second chance and if someone genuinely apologizes and completes its due punishment then why not. This is the practice in all civilized societies where efforts are made to integrate former criminals into the society. I don't agree with you on this Mr. Latif particularly when all the corrupt ruler of ICC are still there, why give a life time punishment to mere few players.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:31pm
I can't believe Rashid Latif he on one hand is supporting Danish Kaneria on the other opposing these 3.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:47pm
I totally support Rashid latife arguments.i think already government and pcb showed soft corner to them which should have not been done.they deserve life time ban because they defamed country for the sake of money.if we did not observe strict moral values then what lesson we r gonna to give the next generations???
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Aug 20, 2015 07:54pm
Says who? The one who keeps protecting Danish Kaneria serving life ban. Strange! I don't think Rashid Latif has balanced mind.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:56pm
yes I agree 100%. They should not be selected at all.... no leniency to this dishonest cricketers esp Asif who has time and again indulged in unscrupulous activities bringing bad name to Pakistan.....
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Aug 20, 2015 08:05pm
Strongly disagree with Mr Lateef. They have paid the penalty.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:16pm
well, if it was solely on morality, then having groups, favoritism in the team, management and selection committees does not deserve there position as well. As for the punishment, i think they have done there time.
As far as selection for the national side is concerned, i think the selection criterion should include a player's motivation/dedication to the game as well. Had they applied that, we might have lost quite a few players we have been seeing playing on the national side.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:29pm
@SOS One should be more humane and remember that these young people have children . Why destroy their lives? These players have served the sentence that was deemed appropriate by the courts.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:31pm
you are right.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:39pm
I a country where our heroes are sheedas and gujjars and where corruption is glorified, what can we expect from many proponents and supporters of asif and salman. RASHID lati is a man of character and his critics are the ones having the corrupt mentality
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Aug 20, 2015 08:43pm
Everyone knows Wasim, Mushtaq etc invoved in betting in the past. Wasim Akram is back in Cricket, doing coaching etc, so is Mushtaq Ahmed etc..Moreover in Pakistan majority of the politicians, and majority of civil servants are corrupt, they get many chances , so whats a big deal. No need to be harsh on these THREE ONLY. come on ..BE REALISTIC. They got the punishment as well..
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Aug 20, 2015 09:03pm
@Uzair Azam, Although I don’t agree with Rashid Latif but your comment is ridiculously hilarious about Rashid Latif was an ordinary cricketer. He was one of the finest wicket keepers in the world. I am sure you don't know this or else you would not have made such comment. We should applause him for exposing the corruption in the team when we was in the team and in return he received a kick in the rear. Yes, I support all 3 of them to perform in domestic to make their way back in the National Team.
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Aug 20, 2015 09:10pm
Pakistan cricket need people like Rashid Latif to be the chief selector as he will pick team on merit. Rashid has demonstrated that he is honest and starightforward attitute who has worked for the betterment of cricket all his life.
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Aug 20, 2015 09:12pm
Well Said Sir!!!
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Aug 20, 2015 09:26pm
Neither these players are the best Pakistan has nor there is shortage in Pakistan of quality players (Pak only needs end of nepotism and corruption to rise in cricket). Taking these players back mean encouraging corruption and gambling in cricket, and that should not happen. Even if they were the best (what they are not), then also their inclusion in team should not happen, as that would give wrong message to would-be gamblers and corrupts in Pakistan cricket, that they should do gambling and corruption, and if they get away than fine, but if not than maybe few years and they could get back (obviously, with the help of nepotism and their backers in team).
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Aug 20, 2015 09:35pm
I agree with amir's play only
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Aug 20, 2015 09:42pm
@Jaan Bhittani
Why is Rashid Latif supporting Kaneria? Fixed matches, took bribes...
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Aug 20, 2015 09:44pm
There are two things. No 1 they committed a crime and they were punished, now we have no right to call them with bad names. No 2 should they be allowed to play in Pakistani team? I would say No! despite knowing that Pakistani team need bowlers. Pakistani team in Mishbah's captaincy has performed very well and now its the time to give opportunity to young blood as they did well against Srilanka in both test and one-day series.
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Aug 20, 2015 09:45pm
They should be sent behind the bar once again.
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Aug 20, 2015 10:10pm
Corrupts support the corrupts.
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Aug 20, 2015 10:18pm
if a murderer can be given the chance to rehabilitation and join the law abiding society and live as any other normal citizen why not a cricketer? They have done their time and those among them who have shown remorse should be given another chance.
Their corruption in comparison to some of the politicians in this country who had held the public office repeatedly, is nothing. The corruption at the very helm of ICC and BCCI is much larger and problematic, but yet tolerated, why only a few cricketers should pass the test of purity even after paying their dues.
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Aug 20, 2015 10:23pm
There is no forgiveness here.. They were representing our country when they committed this heinous act. Let the current and future players know that there is zero tolerance. We have abundance if talent available, let's reward the newcomers and encourage them to excel on the world stage..
Naya Pakistan plays naya cricket !
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Aug 20, 2015 11:18pm
As always Rashid is talking sense. PCB on the other hand is a different question. Tainted cricketers have no place in Pakistani team and they must never play even in the domestic tournaments.
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Aug 21, 2015 12:13am
Talent is talent, no matter what! ? Why all this hullabaloo for no plausible reason whatsoever? Pakistan needs reinforcement, particularly at this juncture. With so many newcomers being given chances repeatedly, and failing from time to time (see the records for yourselves), coupled with the pathetic performances of the tried and trusted (again, see the records) over the past few years have done more harm to Pakistan cricket than ever before in the past. Never ever has Pakistan struggled to barely manage to squeeze into one of the major tournaments. Add to this, the lowly performance in the recent World Cup, what more evidence is needed to justify the inclusion of the 'trio' in question. Please do not start controversies as that's one thing that Pakistan should avoid at all costs if the cricket team wants to re-establish itself in the top rung of the ICC rankings.
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Aug 21, 2015 12:22am
I agree 100% with Rashid. We should not set examples for youngsters where they know they can deliberately ruin nation's reputation and can keep playing after their 'so called' punishments.
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Aug 21, 2015 12:54am
if Warne and Waugh could return then these three should be allowed as well, y should they face double jeopardy, cuz they are Pakistani?if there are no better alternative available in team then they should be considered for example our team doesn't have any bowler swinging at amirs pace he should be included if in form and match fit
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Aug 21, 2015 01:38am
@Tariq Point well made!
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Aug 21, 2015 01:38am
If shady politicians can get umpteen turns to become our leaders, these players only want a second chance. Besides they have served their punishment. Why hold them to a different standard?
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Aug 21, 2015 01:46am
@SOS : Cricket is no more a game it used to be. It has now become another stock market to gamble and make money. They made a mistake and got caught. They have all served their punishment, and should be allowed to earn their livelihood. We have no right to punish them again.They should be allowed to play cricket, if they want to.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:04am
I strongly feel that Mohammad Amer should be spared because of his age. The other two if show strong performance should be given a chance as they have completed their punishment.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:04am
@shuaib Not sure what you mean by universal truth, would you hire a maid who has committed a murder and returning after 18 years in jail. Think the same for Pakistan
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Aug 21, 2015 02:10am
@JS I agree. They have served their time. Everybody deserves another chance. They should be allowed to play cricket.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:11am
@Amir , Spending Jail time and being deprived of your profession, or banned for an extended period of five years out of the prime of your career , is not a so called punishment.
It is an exemplary punishment, which is disproportionately severe for their mistake.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:14am
They have served their time. They deserve a second chance.
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Aug 21, 2015 03:19am
Like a murder victim can't be hanged twice for the same crime; similarly justice has already been served. These men have faced consequences of their acts.
In a country where we set free convicted criminals via NRO and then even make them our President; it's ironic to the trio facing criticism upon anticipated return despite having served full sentence.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:21am
Then in that case convicted politicians and NRO beneficiary should not be allowed to contest polls too , no body made an effort to stop those in court.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:29am
They should be allowed to play domestic cricket but considered only for national team when they manage to play for other international clubs like county cricket etc.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:56am
@Sami that happened after he retired
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Aug 21, 2015 05:50am
Big mistake to allow them back in national cricket. Let them feel the pain for the rest of their life.
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Aug 21, 2015 06:15am
200% agree with Rashid. technically you can't ban them from playing since the ban is over. but they must NEVER be selected for national side ever again...i hope Waqar who was the coach at that time, will make sure they are not selected in the team!
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Aug 21, 2015 06:49am
100% agree with Rashid Latif. It would be unfair with other players who play ethically.
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Aug 21, 2015 07:04am
The two individuals have had enough humiliation and they have completed the punishment. One must be given a chance to reconcile and move on with life. I support Aamir and Asif for a come back.
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Aug 21, 2015 07:07am
One cannot double punish someone for a single mistake. Instead of trio, duo should should not be considered for the moment. Amir should be allowed to return to national team.
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Aug 21, 2015 07:24am
Comon guys, they have been justly penalized for the crime they committed. Look at yourself as a nation, who are you? You want to bribe a police officer if he stops you for over speeding, you can't live in the country without doing something illegal. Corruption is the right of your government. Aamir was not even a mature man at that time, they have served the time. Stop this bigotry now.
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Aug 21, 2015 07:30am
What a nonsense this is! They have completed their term of punishment and why to punish them any further. They shall including anyone shall compete for their place in the team. If they can get in so be it. Why you prejudice they will do the same and based opinion on hypothetical grounds. If they do any wrongdoing laws are there for them and for anyone to dealt with.
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Aug 21, 2015 08:20am
When God gives us so many chances after numerous deliberate mistakes, why can't humans?
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Aug 21, 2015 08:20am
I do respect Rashid Latif, but I don't agree with this statement.
The trio got punished and should be given a chance.
If you commit a crime once then you get punished and then get freed after the punishment. Let's give them a chance.
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Aug 21, 2015 09:51am
3 no-balls and some 5 figure pounds and you don't support their come back. take a look around Mr. Rashid Latif and to all the Pakistanis. Your Current Prime Minister made a return after doing much more serious damage to the country and to actual lives but they're there right on your head telling you what to do. Are you all that weak to raise up your voice against them ? just because you will be silenced by them and nobody can silence you here as you throw in your two cents ? i believe there is always a room for 2nd chance. Aamir of all 3 of them deserve more.
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Aug 21, 2015 09:54am
They have done their time. Give them a break.
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Aug 21, 2015 10:04am
@hassan It is a great honor for one to represent their country at any stage and it is probably the greatest honor for a Pakistani to represent Pakistan as an international cricketer. There are millions of die hard passionate fans, including yourself I suppose and myself. We follow and watch whenever we can hoping for each ball bowled or played by our cricketers will get us a wicket or a run respectively and if our cricketers have already pre-planned to deliver a no ball on purpose or to throw their wicket away on purpose for any price I believe we have every right to feel cheated violated as fans and the wrong doer must pay the price. My point is they must never represent their country again, EVER. It must not be allowed under any circumstances when one puts a price tag on their honor they are not deemed worthy to carry the national flag!!!
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Aug 21, 2015 10:05am
There is no bigger crime than selling your country...they must not play for sure
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Aug 21, 2015 10:08am
They have served their sentence and should play if fit. Amir was too young and was caught in a web, he has a long ways to go. Many players around the world have done worst things and are playing.
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Aug 21, 2015 10:45am
I have agreed with Rashid bhai, but i reckon Aamir should get one chance.
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Aug 21, 2015 10:47am
Salman and Asif dragged Amir in this mess so the kid deserve a second chance.
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Aug 21, 2015 12:21pm
I totally agree especially since we much better players now.
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Aug 21, 2015 01:09pm
@Shafiq Rao Can't agree more!
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Aug 21, 2015 04:31pm
Mr Latif You spilled a catch and rolled over picked the ball up and claimed it against Bangladesh. Pak probably won because of that. You were caught cheating and banned after the game but once you had served your punishment you carried on playing. You shamed Pakistan. What's the difference here.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:33pm
double standards
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Aug 22, 2015 11:20am
We have so many good players in the team and also in backup .. Muhammad Asif , Amir and Salman all did well in past for Pakistan and Pakistan given opportunity to shine talent but they soled country and punished by ICC , they have all right to earn for family .. They should play domestic cricket and others league but not national color .. Please should be difference between black and white or clean players and convicted players thanks
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