Pakistan flags again raised in held Kashmir
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SRINAGAR: The flags of Pakistan were raised here on Friday ahead of talks scheduled to be held between the national security advisers (NSAs) of India and Pakistan.
The flags were seen near Jamia Masjid in Nowhatta.
Kashmiri leader Shabbir Shah said the Indian government should review its rigid stand over the talks because its stand was very weak.
Know more: Kashmiri leader waves Pakistani flag at rally in Srinagar
Mr Shah told the ANI news agency: “Discussions (between India and Pakistan) won’t make progress without the Kashmir issue.... It is not right to dictate the government of Pakistan that it should not meet the Hurriyat leaders. Government of India should reject this rigidness; their stand is very weak.”
He said the Kashmir issue was very important and if the Indian government wanted to discuss it with the Kashmiri leaders they were ready for a dialogue.
Meanwhile, the high court of Jammu and Kashmir quashed on Friday the detention under the Public Safety Act of Kashmiri leader Masarat Alam who was arrested for allegedly hoisting Pakistani flags and chanting anti-India slogans.
Justice Hasnain Masoodi, who had earlier reserved his order on the petition filed by Mr Alam’s counsel, quashed the detention of the 45-year-old leader.
Mr Alam was arrested on April 17 for allegedly raising Pakistani flags and chanting anti-India slogans during a rally organised by the Hurriyat Conference to welcome Syed Ali Shah Geelani from New Delhi.
Police had registered a case against several leaders including Hurriyat Conference chairman Geelani for activities like hoisting the Pakistani flag.
—By arrangement with the Times of India
Published in Dawn, August 22nd, 2015
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Aug 22, 2015 06:31am
Good to see this.
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Aug 22, 2015 06:46am
The people of Kashmir should have the right to select which country they want to be a part of. That is the democratic way of resolving this issue but India knows that Kashmir will side with Pakistan. There is a misconception that countries own their land and anyone under that land belongs to them, that is not Democracy, that is a Dictatorship. The countries power comes from the people and if the people are not with that country then what right has the country over them. The voices of the Kashmiri people must be herd because they have the right to choose who governs them.
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Aug 22, 2015 06:55am
Only in Democratic India is raising the Pakistani flag a criminal offense.
There is a good reason Indians will never allow a referendum to the Kashmiris... They know the Kashmiris would choose to ditch India.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:04am
@A Ahmed Yes Agree, In Pakistan anybody can raise Indian flag and he will greeted with Bouquets.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:06am
When is India going to wake up to reality, army of occupation over 6 decades can't suppress the feelings of Kashmiri Muslims- They stand with Pakistan
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Aug 22, 2015 07:06am
Those in denial should know, clearly they want freedom from Indian oppression.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:08am
Real sentiments of suppressed natives of Kashmir valley. You will be part of Pakistan inshallah.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:08am
Love you guys... Pakistani govt. and media should show support for Kashmir and highlight Kashmir as much as they can.. There should be some rally organised in Pakistan Capital to Support our Kashmiri brothers.. We love you..
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Aug 22, 2015 07:08am
Kashmiris haves spoken. India can not surpress freedom strugle of Kashmiris. Their right of self determination has been denied by Britain Mount Batain and now by Indian politicians.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:09am
Great, We all kashmirie Love you Gelani Sb you are really our great leader.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:10am
Indians must accept that they cant rule the hearts of Kashmiries, they are our brothers and their hearts beat with Pakista
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Aug 22, 2015 07:10am
I am an ethnic Kashmiri. I want a UN plebiscite in Kashmir as Pakistan suggests. Enough Pakistan India wars. Let people decide.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:11am
India better read the writing on the wall.
Kashmir was, is and will be forever pro-pakistan. Kashmir is in the heart of every pakistani. And Pakistan is in the heart of every Kashmiri!!
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Aug 22, 2015 07:12am
We love our brothers and sisters in Kashmir. We will be joined together as was our destiny. Pakistan and Kashmir are one. No foreign occupation, media propaganda or negative trolling can change that fact. The region will not be stable until Kashmir and her people are joined to their family in Pakistan.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:12am
Such an interesting conundrum here. For us Kashmir has deliberately dropped out of the news for many a year. Having joined the liberal 'leave Kashmir and focus internally' brigade, was astounded to meet a guy at the world cup in Australia draped head to toe in Pakistani colors, turned out to be a Kashmiri from the Indian occupied side. the stories he had to tell, the atrocities they go through, and the fact that his (and many others') blood still bleeds green and white wiped out the past years of shrugging shoulders.
I wish Pakistan gets to a point where we are strong enough to nudge the global community in this direction once again. It wont be a military solution, but somehow, someway, Kashmir Banayga Pakistan.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:14am
the invader and occupier telling the locals to move somewhere else. Imagine if Brirish had done same when they ruled subcontinent. You would accept.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:14am
If you have ever been to Kashmir this shouldn't be any surprise. 14 th August is celebrated through out the Srinagar valley except governor house whereas 15 August is celebrated only in governor house and valley comes to a stand still!!!
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Aug 22, 2015 07:15am
I wish our Kashmiri brothers all the best. Beautiful people. Wonderful culture.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:15am
yeah heard that and that was amazing, you will succeed InshaAllah, they couldn't stop us and they cannot stop you as well...
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Aug 22, 2015 07:15am
easy to prove your point-plebiscite under UN. Then they will vote 100% with India. Indians happy, matter finished, peace prevails. Since we are all so sure, why run away from plebiscite every time. Let them come safely back and vote, pakistan or India. Have some little, just a little guts for once.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:16am
The people of kashmir demand that Kashmir should be freed from the Indian occupation. Kashmir is an occupied land and it belongs to Pakistan.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:16am
Kashmiris have overwhelmingly voted in elections. A few flags and stone throwers will not take that away.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:16am
Oh my god ! , they are raising pakistani flags, for this act they deserve pakistani citizenship and permanent residence in azad kashmir until held kashmir is free, pakistan should make arrangements to bring them here with pomp and show, when we can send a plane to send indians to delhi cant we send a bus to bring these patriots here, they should not suffer anymore , please bring them here and treat them like royal subjects.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:18am
Thousands of people risked their lives to attend a pro-Pakistan rally. Can't you read? British would also have likes to call Indians fighting for freedom "separatists".
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Aug 22, 2015 07:19am
I was positive that Indians would resort to word play and statistics to make this very significant event look unimportant. I am not disappointed at all. Kashmir people actually waved Pakistani flag and FIR has been lodged under "Treason" for the people who did so. India really needs to wake up from it's day dream that the people of Kashmir love India . We are all for dialogue on Kashmir dispute but no dialogue is acceptable without Kashmir leaders being part of it !
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Aug 22, 2015 07:20am
Are they all just your brothers? Not brothers to 200 million Indian Muslim, middle eastern, north African & ex East Pakistan Muslims? Emotive statements are all very well but it does not suddenly solve the problem. Ask yourself what would you do with all the extra people who have low productivity and work ethic. We Pakistanis are impoverished as it is, lacking in heath care, education, economic well being, infrastructure, etc. Adding more people of similar sort with little ability and talent will only impoverish us more and cause large scale discontent. I say let Kashmir & Kashmiris be. Don't get carried away by a few of them waving Pakistani flags. It doesn't mean anything other than expressing personal discontent and revenge against a regime that imprisioned this man or 4 years. We have enough problems of our own to solve. So cool it. Be pragmatic.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:37am
Kashmiri youth are expressing their inner most desires for freedom out in the open. No amount of repression can erase this emotion since it is now embedded in the DNA of the Kashmiris' across generations.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:37am
It is good that they are putting effort on making and raising flags. But it seems more for seeking attention and protest that allegiance to Pakistan. I sincerely hope apart from this they pay attention to their career and studies, as parents don'want their children not to be martyr but flourish and do good in life. If the present system gives them job, studies take benefit and prosper. Politics cones when stomach is full.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:37am
Young people , boiling blood, adrenaline rush, they want to do thrilling activities , but once they get older their only aim will be to earn a living and will stay away from dangerous acts.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:38am
If govt wants to do a noble action in this month of Ramadan it will be to offer citizenship to kashmiris like these young men, who risk their life by making Pakistan flags , this shows their immense love and patriotism , when India can give citizenship to Hindus and Sikhs of Pakistan and Afghanistan , why cant we do the same for kashmiris, we claim to suffer with them , let us show the world we really do and call APC and announce this to the world, the world will sit up and take notice and will believe that we genuinely care about kashmiris plight and are ready to go to any lengths to save them from persecution.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:38am
People who are deprived of Pakistani citizenship really know its value, we have Pakistani citizens who are plotting against the nation , my heart swells with pride when i hear about these youths in Kashmir , their only aim in life is to become citizens of Pakistan and enjoy the immense pride and honor that comes with it, it is responsibility of PM and COAS to show these young men our support and what is better than to offer what they seek most , citizenship of Pakistan, when India can do the same why cant we ?
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Aug 22, 2015 07:39am
Well done boys. Hopefully soon the whole of Kashmir will be made a part of Pakistan.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:39am
this column is very interesting for the people who lives under the shadow of subject green flag, and respect the aspiration of the people of kashmir.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:40am
Poor guys , i think they didn't get a decent education nor have any skills hence doing this kind of thing that does not earn a decent living.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:41am
Right to self-determination is what Kashmiris want. Love for Pakistan is now passed on to the new generation. Proud of the brave youth of Kashmir.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:41am
We stand shoulder to shoulder with our Kashmiri brethren. We will continue to fight for Kashmir's freedom through all channels.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:42am
How long a nation bent on freedom can be kept captive against will, Kashmir and her people have undeniable right of self determination. Suppressing this joint will and historic promise will only make the blood soaked face of humanity more twitched. Long live Freedom, long live the martyrs of freedom.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:42am
Kashmir is a recognized disputed territory. Every body there has right to show liking with their preferred choice. Nobody should have any problem.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:42am
Their love for Pakistan and the green flag is amazing. Its all a home grown movement...people across the border will not acknowledge it, and even if they believe it...won't accept it.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:43am
Sad to see young people waste their time in indo-pak political theater instead of getting a good education and a job.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:44am
As a Kashmiri I love resilience of our people
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Aug 22, 2015 07:45am
These youths are wasting their life doing such dangerous and illegal activities and instead concentrate on doing legal activity that will fetch them good income and earn their family praise and that of their country.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:46am
I feel so sad to see these young people doing these good for nothing activities and wasting the most important part of their lives, hope the community leaders and their parents have some intelligence to advice these young men what is right and wrong, these young men can help their community by becoming strong themselves , they should concentrate on education and jobs, not doing things that can threaten their lives and that of their families .
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Aug 22, 2015 07:46am
What else can they do ?
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Aug 22, 2015 07:46am
I would not like my son/daughter to be in this position, these young ones will regret their actions of today in their twilight years when it is too late to correct it , they are wasting the precious life god has given them and i think elders are not in position to guide them on right path towards gaining knowledge and livelihood or they don't listen to wise words .
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Aug 22, 2015 07:47am
Getting each and everything on goverment subsidized rate .This young guys will never understand day to day struggle of citizen .Nothing is going to change .
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Aug 22, 2015 07:47am
We have already integrated around 95 percent of Kashmiris into mainstream.These 5 percent shall not be entertained.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:47am
this is a connections of souls, Kashmiri people have suffered too much in the hands of india. No words to explain the love we feel for kashmiris.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:48am
As a kashmiri , i think these youths should get proper education and then jobs , not waste time painting flags and risking their life and bring pain to their loved ones.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:49am
As a kashmiri, I think these youths are misguided, what good they can do to their family and their community if they are not educated and financially secure, they should remember education is the most effective weapon in the modern world ,not guns or anything else.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:49am
So what's new? They've been doing so for more than six decades
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Aug 22, 2015 07:50am
As long as there is desire for freedom in hearts of kashmiri people, there is hope. Pakistan should keep on raising the issue at international level to resolve it as per aspirations of kashmiri people under UN resolution.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:50am
He is not in India, he is in Kashmir, which has never been a part of India. Kashmir is a disputed territory, and previously was not a part of British India and was not a part of India ever and never will be. We Kashmiris do not need Indians in our country, the Indian Army should leave.
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Aug 22, 2015 07:53am
the hard fact is nothing will change never ever... all has to accept LOC as the international border with free movement across the line... there is no other solution...
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Aug 22, 2015 07:53am
Time is not far When Kashmiri people will live according to their will!
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Aug 22, 2015 08:13am
@I'M ALWAYS RIGHT18 minutes ago
So what's new? They've been doing so for more than six decades
Your are right its getting old. Even places like Canada (Quebec) and US (Porto Rico) allows people self determine. Why is the biggest democracy dragging there feet.
If you could not change the minds of these Kashmiri people in 69 years, you know you have no chance.
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Aug 22, 2015 08:24am
Well done Our brother of Kashmir people. We love you.Insallah Kasmir Must be Joint to Pakisatn, the time not so far.
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Aug 22, 2015 08:36am
Kashmir is an internationally recognised disputed territory. Why is hoisting Pakistani flag results in jail?
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Aug 22, 2015 08:37am
@sonny afridi
Kashmir is NOT a part of India, neither Pakistan. It is disputed territory. Kashmiris can raise either flag. Not your business
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Aug 22, 2015 08:37am
These Huriyat leaders do not represent even 3% of Kashmiri population as evidenced in the last election. If you see Pak flags raised in Kashmir, it also shows the freedom people enjoy in India.
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Aug 22, 2015 09:06am
We are with Kashmiri brothers. Your struggle will bring peace, prosperity and freedom in the valley. Pakistan was with you and Pakistan will be with you at any spot.
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Aug 22, 2015 09:33am
Kashmir is an integral part of India. Period.
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Aug 22, 2015 09:45am
Every country must ask people the type of government, independent status or what they want instead of only getting election to choose between political parties. People have no choice except to vote to one among all bad. Then we say elections are held free. Where is the choice of people for their aspiration.
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Aug 22, 2015 09:54am
@MRS.KHAN dear in last 6 months about 100 + local youth have picked up guns .And the majority of them are well educated & have a carrier of Academic excellence.
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Aug 22, 2015 09:56am
@AFZAL when a persons motherland is under the occupation , he is harassed every day then the desire to breath under free sky becomes obligation. #LongliveKashmir
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Aug 22, 2015 09:59am
wow! So much hype for 200 people!
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Aug 22, 2015 10:00am
There are twelve million kashmiris in Indian kashmir. How many million pakistani flags were raised? Ten million? five? two? atleast one million? No? 5 lakhs? 2 lakhs? atleast 1 lakh? Ten thousand? Atleast one thousand? No? Ok how many ... about TEN flags. So these represent the kashmiris aspirations? Perfect.
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Aug 22, 2015 10:01am
hurriyat never had the guts to contest in elections because they knew they would lose big time. During last year state elections also they couldn't tell people not to vote because they knew no one would listen.
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Aug 22, 2015 10:12am
@Prakash Puthalath .....really don't know how ignorant one can be...why not allow plebiscite or referendum and let Kashmiri choose their own destiny. We won't tolerate or accept Brahmin hegemony , no matter how many more years it ll take us to achieve our most cherished dream of freedom liberty and justice
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Aug 22, 2015 10:13am
Why Pakistan cant engage with J&K government as its democratically elected which is logical but want to engage with hurriyat leaders which dont even represent 5%population. It will have more fruitfull solution
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Aug 22, 2015 10:22am
"Gift of Dispute" was given by world power in 1947 to both India and Pakistan so they will not allow unity and cooperation between freed countries (divide and rule). Both India and Pakistan enjoying the "Gift of Dispute" by purchasing arms from factories of world powers. Kashmir will remain disputed and region poorest if we not sit for dialogue for amicable solution acceptable to Kashmiri people, India and Pakistan. Terrorism is also part of dispute gifted to India and Pakistan.
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Aug 22, 2015 11:01am
I as a Kashmiri for one want an independent Kashmir from both India and Pakistan. The then leader of Kashmir after independence decided to join India, that is what is claimed, even if that is true he had no right to do so, Kashmir was not his God given right, just like any other land in the world. The people of Kashmir should decide and that includes Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Muslims of Kashmir. Minority's should have rights given to them by law. A referendum should be held just as it was in Scotland but under international observers and the outcome should be accepted by all. Option all Kashmir join Pakistan, join India or an independent Kashmir. The whole land locked issue is baseles, there are plenty of land locked States in the world that thrive.
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Aug 22, 2015 11:04am
Integral part of India, integral part of Pakistan, what a lot of nonsense, don't we Kashmiris have a say.
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Aug 22, 2015 11:06am
@Prakash Puthalath Freedom, really? , thats why 700,000 Indian troops are situated to keep Kashmir occupied - and BTW whats happening to the Nagaland and Asam !!!
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Aug 22, 2015 11:14am
@AKNASSER there are kashmiri pandits as well !!
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Aug 22, 2015 11:31am
@sonny afridi Pakistan is an independent country whereas Kashmir is a disputed territory.
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Aug 22, 2015 11:50am
@MRS.KHAN Well said Madam.You hit the head of nail. When you have a section of uneducated youth with no skills for employability in our society, there is always an effort by anti social/ anti national elements to use them to fulfill their agenda.That is what playing out in Kashmir valley.
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Aug 22, 2015 12:13pm
Kashmir is the part Pakistan.
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Aug 22, 2015 12:14pm
By waving flags will not let kashmir banega pakistan. The UN or Legal aspect of the any land will judge by the documentation (Proper)!!! Legally this land belongs to us, King of Kashmir acceded it to India.
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Aug 22, 2015 12:32pm
How many flags do you see? How many people live in Kashmir? Think again.
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Aug 22, 2015 12:54pm
3rd largest muslim population in the world living in India peace fully. No idea what is the problem with these people.
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Aug 22, 2015 01:18pm
@Osama Shafeeqe You have a miss concept Osama Bhai coz the people you see in there with your flags are only 100 or 1000 max. there are other kashmiris also who loves india and are happy with india coz they get good jobs and can do business also.
Should i refer situation in Your alleged Azad Kashmir. What facility did you gave to them, tell us.
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Aug 22, 2015 01:27pm
@Yaar Nawab. If you care to see facts for yourself, Nagas in Nagaland signed a peace agreement recently where it renounced separatist agenda in return for more autonomy within India. Whats the problem with Assam you are talking about?
Hope Dawn will publish this comment at least.
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Aug 22, 2015 01:56pm
India took this matter to UN and promised plebiscite. Later on India instead of conducting plebiscite, it started re-enforcing its illegal occupation. On moral grounds, India and UN has responsibility to give Kasmiris their right to choose what they wanted.... One thing is for sure 1.5 billion people are sitting on edge of war as kasmiri's struggle continue..any kasmiri killed, any woman rapped there, just spreads fire across border....
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Aug 22, 2015 02:48pm
@Praphul
The land belongs to the people of Kashmir, it does not belong to any king or queen who purchased it from the Britain. How would you like it if the prime minister or president of India gave New Delhi to Germany or America. Do you think the people of New Delhi would say it's OK because it belongs to our dear leader. All Kashmiris should decide about Kashmir, includes Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus who belong to Kashmir.
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Aug 22, 2015 03:03pm
So much for Indian democracy, raising a flag is now a crime! Pathetic.
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Aug 22, 2015 03:04pm
The people of Kashmir want to make a part of Pakistan. it will be done soon.
Inshallah Indian government and army will lost to Kashmir in few years.
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Aug 22, 2015 03:13pm
UN is a useless organization which could never do anything truly meaningful. There is only one rule in this world "might is right". UN could do nothing for Palestinians and has done nothing for Kashmiris. Only might can fix issues. I sound controversial but you all know I am right.
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Aug 22, 2015 03:13pm
@Brijesh
But were they given a choice in your 'election'? You need to accept your methods are dictatorial not democratic, and if they are not democratic why pretend you are the "world's greatest democracy?"
You are deluding no one but yourselves.
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Aug 22, 2015 03:15pm
why sre they hiding their face?
they could be anyone? maybe not Kashmiri atall. or even hindus supporter of congress just to embrass the govt
if u have a view standup and be counted anything else is sham
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Aug 22, 2015 03:35pm
@Talha Pasha Kashmir belongs to India, the World Top emerging Economy. Kashmir Actual Public will not dare to go with Pakistan as they well knows that Pakistan Economic development is very Much Lacking. We are Quite capable to protect our land and develop our Land better than Pakistan.
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Aug 22, 2015 03:44pm
Keep dreaming but at ur own peril. We keep on working on our day to day work marching towards progress. We been just to these misguided kashmiri youth, as we were democratic principles. but u know some of the religious cracks never understand the freedom they r enjoying. Kasgmir is for kashmiri pandiths and for india. As common Indians we were very large hearted to bear all this nonsense, but our paitiance is running thin with them. We want peace but for that justure u play dirty tricks, u know it will be repaid with lot of intrest with a same coin.
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Aug 22, 2015 04:06pm
@Brijesh they voted for jobs, food and water... They didnt vote for India. Voting for the sake of gaining basic needs is not an acceptance of indian rule no matter how you Indians try to spin it.
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Aug 22, 2015 04:24pm
Power to my Kashmiri brothers and sisters for their struggle for freedom.
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Aug 22, 2015 04:33pm
@Bhagat Singh You are talking rubbish, you will see what happens. You are not a super power and remember this super powers can fall aswell.
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Aug 22, 2015 04:35pm
the kashmiris living abroad (so many her in UK) should do their part to internationalise the issue, to lobby and pressure their respective governments to raise the kashmir issue.
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Aug 22, 2015 04:39pm
Every Indian and Pakistani knows that Kashmir was not acceded to neither country, in their hearts they know the truth. But instead each claim sovereignty over entire Kashmir like if they own it. Some fake king apparently went running to India and gave it to them like a sack of potatoes, if that is true and Pakistan feels it has a God given right because majority of the population is Muslim. When will anyone wake up and ask Kashmiris what they want.
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Aug 22, 2015 04:43pm
@sunilsm
This tells you a lot of the average hate monger in both Pakistan and India, get over yourself. Kashmir belongs to no one, but all Kashmiris.
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Aug 22, 2015 04:43pm
@ritesh so why has India 700000 guns pointing down on Kashmiris if they are an integral part of India. Do you have a gun pointing to your head.
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Aug 22, 2015 04:59pm
You call these bunch of people raising flags as voice of J&K?? It's all together different picture here
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Aug 22, 2015 05:05pm
@ABCD . Another one here claims without presenting any facts.
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Aug 22, 2015 05:07pm
What are india do they cannot separate physical and mental bonds between Pakistanis and Kashmiris. Kashmir was and will remain a part of Pakistan.
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Aug 22, 2015 05:50pm
@ritesh Kashmir is NOT part of India, at least the UN resolution says so. India is involved in war crimes and crimes against humanity in Kashmir
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Aug 22, 2015 05:57pm
They love India Israel but raise flags of Pakistan is Pakistan their servant or driver or both.
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Aug 22, 2015 06:19pm
@AKNASSER why don't you take to Pakistan those who love Pakistan?
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Aug 22, 2015 06:23pm
@ZAK I totally agree with you zak, pls ask your govt to give citizenship to these kashmiri who love you and take them with you to Pakistan. We would love and thank Pakistan for this noble cause
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Aug 22, 2015 06:25pm
@Bajarangi I just want the people of Kashmir to have their say. If they want to join India, i will 100% support them and vice versa. Scotland was able to have a referendum on this issue and they decided to stay with Britain, so why Can't Kashmir have its say. Its simple, India wants to project itself as progressive and democratic nation but shows similar characteristic of an oppressive regime and Pakistan is no better. India believes that the people of Kashmir side with Pakistan or else they would have given the people of Kashmir their say long ago. India does not want to loose Kashmir and they are willing to take the rights of the people of Kashmir to do this. Can they really be called a Democracy then?
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Aug 22, 2015 06:32pm
I don't understand. Regardless of the fact what Kashmiris want, I mean does Pakistan seriously believe that India will conduct a referendum or give Kashmir away. India is never going to do that. So giving Kashmir Independence or giving it away to Pakistan is just not a solution. The proxy war can go on for centuries, but for India to give away Kashmir would mean a Nuclear annihilation of some sort. And that is not happening. So to the young Pakistanis out there, seriously, is it worth putting the best years of your life on the line for this?
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Aug 22, 2015 06:35pm
@koshur ladke I believe you are not informed correctly about Brahmin domination. They used to dominate some decades back, but Brahmins no longer hold sway in India and proof is Modi who is from a backward caste.
However, you may want to accommodate Kashmiri Pandits in your world view.. they are Brahmins and sons of Kashmir soil.
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Aug 22, 2015 06:36pm
Kashmir has over 12 million people. If they wanted Pakistan, don't you think there would be at least hundreds of thousands of flags instead of these couple of flags?
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Aug 22, 2015 06:36pm
It is not just in Srinagar or Kashmir that this happens, but Pakistani flags are displayed all over India. Most muslims in India support Pakistan and love Pakistan. Whenever Pakistan wins a cricket match against India, you would be surprised to hear/see hte amount of fire crackers burst to celebrate the same. In mumbai, delhi, calcutta etc etc. All over the muslims support Pakistan.
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Aug 22, 2015 06:40pm
@soofi Yes. Please take all the Kashmiris along with you. Invite them and give them the choice. Give them Pakistani citizenship. We Indians would love to see that. After you have given them this choice, then let us see the Kashmiris want to be with Pakistan!
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Aug 22, 2015 06:46pm
Out of about 20 million people you see four of them raising the flag, what about the rest!!
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Aug 22, 2015 06:50pm
Really confusing..Some guys wave flag..but how come more than 60% voted in the election conducted by India? If they intent to join Pakisthan why dony they should fully boycott indian elections?
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Aug 22, 2015 06:57pm
There are thousands of people of Kashmir want to live in India, The take part in Indian election, They take admissions in Universities, They earn money in this country ... Those who want's to go Pakistan please go ...
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Aug 22, 2015 07:15pm
@Mahesh and what about their homeland?
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Aug 22, 2015 07:21pm
Alot of people saying if Kashmiris love Pak, they should go to Pak, my reply is, who are you to decide, if according to Indians 60% voted in election, so what is India afraid of? Or are they moving non Kashmri families into IoK So if a vote does happen in 50 years, the local muslims would have either left or depressed. The Pak side of Kashmir is a very developed aeea, where the GDP is one of the highest in the country, so linking with Pak has its benefits, keep the struggle alive people, we Pakistanis are with you. Kashmir banay ka Pakistan.......Inshallah
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Aug 22, 2015 08:16pm
Last chance for supporting the Occupied Kashmiris. Time has come for the 10 years war of attrition (ala 1960's) with India.
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Aug 22, 2015 08:38pm
Nice to see Pakistan flags flying all across Kashmir, I hope one day Pakistan flags will be flying all across India. I hope India won't mind because they are the largest democratic country.
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Aug 22, 2015 09:09pm
Indians can not shy away from realities. Kashmiris are fighting for a just cause. It is their right to freedom that is also recognized by the UNO and the world over. Either have the resolutions removed if you can or accept the Kashmiri demands. There is no other way for India.
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Aug 22, 2015 10:37pm
@Talha Pasha hahaha so funny
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Aug 22, 2015 11:12pm
Kashmiri's have voted with flags, they want to join Pakistan. These pictures should be plastered all over the international media.
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Aug 23, 2015 12:49am
Which Kashmiri leader are they talking about?? is this guy elected by the people of J&K ?.. There are elected leaders in J&K where more than 65% of the people have voted..
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Aug 23, 2015 01:29am
great
@SAAD
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Aug 23, 2015 02:21am
@Brijesh
Yes they may have voted but in Indian 'democracy'!!!!!!
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Aug 23, 2015 07:37am
@shabut Pl research carefully.The Kashmir had been removed from UN dispute list in 2010.
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Aug 23, 2015 09:51am
Kashmir votes in Democratic elections every 5 years. That is referendum. Jai Hind
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Aug 23, 2015 03:38pm
@sonny afridi You are equating a disputed territory with a soverign country. Personally, even unfurling an Indian flag in Pakistan should not have a problem, just as the British should not...but given the childish attitudes of your people [Indians and Pakistanis]; your prides have gotten too fragile.
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Aug 23, 2015 03:43pm
@Brijesh Precisely...lets see that if a plebiscite is allowed. Ironical as it seems, before elections Indians beseech roti kapda and sadak paani as flaunting the reasons why elections are important and once they vote; they project is as Indian democracy! Needless to say, nor the United Nations and nor the international community regards elections as having any bearing with the disputed nature of J&K.
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Aug 23, 2015 04:00pm
@HAIDER REHMAN Dear Sir, there are no guns in their hands and unfurling a pakistani flag does not mean one is uneducated. Kindly unlearn what needs to be unlearned. The plasma of Kashmiri blood is "Hum Pakistani hai, Pakistan hamara hai"....This is what is "Integral" in real sense..murmuring the words in sleep makes no sense otherwise. Thankyou.
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Aug 23, 2015 04:33pm
@rich Dude, ever tried to know why they hide the face? Ever tried to know they will be lodged into jails without any trial for years to come. Try knowing what AFSPA in Kashmir stands for...Google it once and you will know a truth, you hardly can get to know.
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Aug 24, 2015 11:24am
@Sajad Kashmiri what about before 1947?when there was no pakistan
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Aug 24, 2015 03:08pm
@HAIDER REHMAN STOP ACTING SO DAFT!!! Their aim is freeing their homeland from the brutal clutches of India and making it part of Pakistan. Its THEIR land and you have no right to tell them to leave it and go ANYWHERE!! Understood??
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Aug 24, 2015 04:53pm
Does this mean the territory belongs the flag which is waved off. You are behaving like a person, putting his handkerchief on the bus seat, claiming that now this seat belongs to me.
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Aug 24, 2015 06:43pm
@rajesh .. Dont waste your time here..this is the way of forgetting their miseries and have some good time..it s just indulgence and so be it
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Aug 24, 2015 08:23pm
the obvious fact is kashmir NEED NOT be treated an issue anymore....too many lives have been lost and too many wars have been fought.....the two countries must figure a way of coexisting and let this sickening dispute simply disappear into history. Because none of the countries is about to relent or backtrack from the territory they've already occupied.
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Aug 24, 2015 10:07pm
Buck up kashmiries...
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