Teenage 'suicide': Police find more letters in boy’s schoolbag
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KARACHI: Police on Wednesday said they were examining handwritten letters of and drawings by the two teenage classmates who were found shot dead on Tuesday morning in a private school in Patel Para in Soldier Bazaar. They said they were treating it as a suicide case.
Sixteen-year-old Nauroz Hamidi killed his classmate Saba Fatima Bashir, 15, before shooting himself dead with the licensed pistol of her father on Tuesday morning, as the two had decided to end their lives after finding that their families were unhappy about their friendship.
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“The teenage classmates apparently took this extreme action as they feared that they would not be allowed to marry outside their sect or caste,” said Jamshed SP Akhtar Farooq.
The boy belonged to the Ismaili community, added the officer.
‘Fear of not being allowed to marry outside their sect or caste caused teenagers to kill themselves’
The SP said the investigators found more handwritten letters and drawings in the bag of the boy, which indicated their extreme love for each other.
These letters also indicate that they had been planning this act for a long time. One of the drawings, prepared by the boy, shows their funeral prayers. The boy intended to commit suicide by taking some toxic chemicals, one of the letters shows. Another letter shows that they started liking each other just last year.
The officer said investigation showed that the girl brought the licensed pistol of her father in her bag and she later handed it over to him.
It emerged during the initial probe that the boy and the girl were introvert and tended to avoid mixing with other classmates. Besides, they had no interest in sports. The boy was not good in studies.
However, the SP said, as per the initial statement of their families the teenage classmates did not exhibit any unusual attitude. The girl’s family stated that on Tuesday night, Saba refused to eat dinner at home and insisted on having a burger.
Meanwhile, the school where the teenagers studied remained closed on Wednesday.
Published in Dawn, September 3rd, 2015
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Sep 03, 2015 08:59am
So sad...in a society dominated by hypocrites we can expect more such tragic incidents
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Sep 03, 2015 09:09am
The girl's mother made up a false cover story about what happened. Beware. Sometimes teens commit suicide when they feel they can't talk to their parents. Our pride is not more important than our children. The girl's mother might have talked her through this but she thought her daughter was too young to have those feelings. "We are all human beings."
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Sep 03, 2015 09:16am
How unfortunate ; so sad ....
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Sep 03, 2015 09:17am
Totally parents fault. Now they have their ego, and noses intact, but the kids who loves each other so much are gone.
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Sep 03, 2015 09:19am
Romeo_Juliet of our time.
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Sep 03, 2015 09:23am
it is about time that the parents take more time to have more and frank communication with children specially the teenagers. In this society of hipocracy the parents need to support their children by having more frank communication so that such occurances can be avoided.
The scools need to play some role as well and the middle classes like 7th and 8th the teachers need to start discussions around social problems with the teenagers. I hope we can get the education system changed to reflect the problems of current times.
Can the Education Ministry take note as well as the NGO's working in the social sector to make an awareness compaign.
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Sep 03, 2015 09:37am
This world is full of heartbroken stories - would've been better if humans were emotionless?
Sometimes you just think is this the place i need to live in (Era we live in)? cant we get better?
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Sep 03, 2015 09:44am
The fact they are dead does not take anything away from the reality that these were stupid kids who did not think rationally. This is no one's fault. How can this is be anyone's fault ?! I honestly hope our police and media stop harassing the parents
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Sep 03, 2015 09:47am
This is a sad situation for any family. My heart felt condolences for both families. Romantic and unrealistic tv dramas and indian movies are playing a major role in spoiling our lower and middle class youth.
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Sep 03, 2015 09:49am
the credit goes to our media and parenthood.
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Sep 03, 2015 09:53am
@Taimur Not sure how you are relating this with hypocrisy in our society
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Sep 03, 2015 09:55am
@ZM:"Stupid kids."
Not stupid but unwanted, unloved, radar less, undirected, mentor less, low self esteem, undisciplined, brainwashed...lonely !
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Sep 03, 2015 09:57am
So sad....such a tragic event. Teenage attraction is not love..
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Sep 03, 2015 10:19am
@Zubaida khan how can you claim that its totally parents fault?? These are the situations parents neva went through in their lives so they them selves got scared that what to do now... And if there parents had denied there relationship then there will be a strong point of view behind it.... So please dont blame parents & dont act like childish....
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Sep 03, 2015 10:20am
This is what we get from easy access of Mobile,Cable TV, Internet and Least supervision of parents on their Children.This disease is spreading from West to now in our bedrooms and houses
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Sep 03, 2015 10:22am
Just attraction not love and it was kid's mistake.... It is not easy to nurture infant. We are not western. We pay more attentions to our kids and sacrifice own wishes for our kids. Parents are always well wisher to their kids and I am quite sure things could be sorted. What they achieved by committing suicide?
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Sep 03, 2015 10:52am
Waste of life!
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Sep 03, 2015 10:53am
Let us not be judgmental about the kids or their parents or anybody else. It is a tragic news.
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Sep 03, 2015 11:02am
Although it is very unfortunate, but this love they learn from bollywood.
Remember Dil se, Ram leela , Ishq zaday etc.
This media ruining the future of our children.
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Sep 03, 2015 11:08am
It is so easy to comments as to who is right or wrong but the whole episode translates that parents do not need to act as conventional one and have to adapt with time and talk to their kids and also kids have to open up and discuss with parents social along with educational issue - this tragic loss is because we are rigid and do not communicate with each other; no matter how small the kids are they also carry emotional feeling.
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Sep 03, 2015 11:11am
I totally agree with the fact that the media is brainwashing our next generation. It's shocking to see that two kids have ended their lives over something like this.
We should ban all senseless movies, tv serials etc from our country. How I miss those days when our tv dramas really did have proper and sensible messages but nowadays is all about lust and love which results in this...
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Sep 03, 2015 11:15am
The ultimate culprit in this tragedy is our Media , particularly the so-called "entertainment" channels full of immoral and B-Grade dramas.
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Sep 03, 2015 11:24am
This is a clear case of lack of communication between the parents and their children unfortunately in this age of 21st century still lot of parents want to brought up their children like they were brought up by their own parents in 50s and 60s this is called generation gap.
Moreover, majority of children in Pakistan are borne out of just natural desire not due to planned activity, which is the main cause of reluctance towards the children
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Sep 03, 2015 11:33am
I can imagine the pain youngsters suffered and went into depression.
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Sep 03, 2015 11:42am
It was again an religious matter as the boy belonged to Ismaili community so both of them feared that there marriage was impossible, and this is the only reason that teenagers coul not force their family to tie in the permanent note of relation...
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Sep 03, 2015 11:43am
This is an insane act of kids.
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Sep 03, 2015 11:47am
Parents should allow their kids to get married of their own volition if they are able to support themselves. When the weight of responsibilities would hit the kids, what would they do? It is not for the parents to support married kids.
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Sep 03, 2015 11:48am
@Naveed - Fully agree with you. Electronic and print media in Pakistan can play a vital role in eradicating social taboos of our society but instead they are engaged in love stories and romance dramas. Same thing can be said about indian films.
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Sep 03, 2015 11:48am
I remember seeing similar type of scene from an sub-continental movie or drama just couple of months ago, where the boy first killed the girl and then killed himself. I don't know about this incident but these dramas and movies are full of such stories & I must say, they mostly show family fights, love stories, street fights and nothing productive. So parents must practice controlled access of children on TV, internet etc and they should give more and more time to their children so they don't feel a vacuum which outsider can fill very easily specifically at this age. Still as a parent I really feel sad for the parents, no matter what but all children are the life of their parents.
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Sep 03, 2015 11:51am
@Muhammad Ali Hussain Dont make fun of this incident. This can happen in my family or your family or any where . They were innocent kids and made a mistake .so sad !!
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Sep 03, 2015 11:52am
@Omran - Yes, is there any way to check this?
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Sep 03, 2015 11:57am
I think the non-existence of mentor in our education system is to blame such incidence. Some among us are fortunate to find some mentors within their family but most of us are not able to find any. Our most of youth have so many confusions in their mind do lack or sometime excessive information available through media. Here somebody should enter who can able to remove confusions and guide youngsters. Parents are either not interested due to their busy schedules or lack this ability. Our education system is only interested to earn profit, introduce expensive books etc.
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Sep 03, 2015 12:10pm
Peopl are blaming media and other stuff. Reality is these type of stories exist since histories, when n media existed. All have same reason society. Heer ranjha, sassi punjhu, romeo juliat etc.. I consider it pure mishandling by parents...
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Sep 03, 2015 12:11pm
All sympathies to parents... the kids of today have no love for their own parents but their love at school and colleges are more sacred to even commit a suicide for?? all the credit goes to the media that our youth is being injected and imposed upon... Less Islamic studies and more Worldly affairs is to blame the death of these young kids...
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Sep 03, 2015 12:22pm
@ Waseem Ashraf 100% agreed with you. At the age of 16 we used to thinks which were unrealistic and innocent.
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Sep 03, 2015 12:22pm
@WAJUBABA and how could u know that their parents didn't know these feelings. They are also human beings with lot more experience than probably you and me and certainly more than their kids. They have every right to choose what they believe is best for their kids. If kids then out to do something bizarre, u cannot blame parents. Don't be judgemental beyond sanity.
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Sep 03, 2015 12:28pm
Indian movies some unethical dramas aired on Pakistani TV channels are spoiling our future generation.
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Sep 03, 2015 12:36pm
There is a fine line between love and infatuation which is almot invisible in every young age group; be it school, college or universtiy. Social Delima!!!
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Sep 03, 2015 12:46pm
@Fudayl Ahmad "Let us not be judgmental about the kids or their parents or anybody else. It is a tragic news" do not take it as another simple tragic news we should learn some lesson from this tragic incident and try to mend our ways according to changing times
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Sep 03, 2015 12:48pm
@Zubaida khan
Love? Which love? It's just nothing but their childishness.But It's not fair to blame their parents. It's the media that's expoiling our youth. They've died a strictly prohibited death. I m feeling sorry for their parents. Have they brought them up for this drastic end?
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Sep 03, 2015 12:53pm
Flaws And De-merits of Co-education and ineptness of nurturence by Parents of both sides....
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Sep 03, 2015 12:55pm
'The girl’s family stated that on Tuesday night, Saba refused to eat dinner at home and insisted on having a burger.'
This is heart breaking :(
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Sep 03, 2015 12:59pm
Tragic. We as society need to wake up and openly debate the underlying reasons and be ready to change and act to safeguard our children.
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Sep 03, 2015 01:01pm
@Danish "Indian movies some unethical dramas aired on Pakistani TV channels are spoiling our future generation" be realistic do not just blame every thing on others love / affection / infatuation all are traits are built in our human nature we just need channelize these attributes through counselling
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Sep 03, 2015 01:02pm
@Nasir Khan
Totally disagree with both of you. Innocent people can't take such disastrous steps. Suppose they were truly in love with each other, why they failed to love their Lord and their parents? It's stupidity and nonsense! If I euphemize, I would say it emotional deprivation. Innocence is a quite different thing!
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Sep 03, 2015 01:02pm
Very sad incident. Direct consequence of mixing races (co-education) and the filth we are made to swallow 24/7 in the name of advertising, art, culture, movies, dramas, etc.
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Sep 03, 2015 01:04pm
Had they eloped in some point in time and got married, the parents might had them killed for the honour of the family. Sad state of affairs in our society.
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Sep 03, 2015 01:17pm
Indian media is just spoiling our youngsters!
Govt. should ban these types of movies.
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Sep 03, 2015 01:20pm
extreme love of man or woman is a sickness of mind ... propogated by movies and such culture
thats it.
people all over the world do not like to marry in families/ sects that they don't like. happens all over the world... whether rich or poor muslims or hindus or christains
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Sep 03, 2015 01:24pm
Its the fault of the whole society that we have let such dramas apper on our TV where there is no other story but ..... The teenage learn things from here.
Yes, its also Parents fault of letting the kids go this far. It would have been much better to punish them and lock them at home. Crazy Kids....
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Sep 03, 2015 01:32pm
16 isnt age for marrying. its age to study. parents were right in inhibiting their friendship. its media which causes people to go to extreme lengths where they kill themselves. Very Sad!!
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Sep 03, 2015 01:33pm
@abdul rafay u shuldnt be so sure sir , u cant judge any1z eelings from their age .
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Sep 03, 2015 01:34pm
@Rijaal
And how could you say that their parents were aware of the seriousness of the situation? In this immature age such crushes are very common but not every child performs Suiside. Every disclosed thing is not often true.
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Sep 03, 2015 01:41pm
Parents and teachers both sides are responsible for the unfortunate incident. They do not realize their responsibilties. Parents never ask childern about their activities in school and after school. They think that they have fulfill their responsibility by admitting them in top institute. Teachers and parents never recognize changes in them about behaviour and attitude. Last but not the least unchecked social media and tv media is responsible. Students are busy from 6 to 12 night on browsing face book and watching full of love affairs drama on tv. And in result incidents happen like this.
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Sep 03, 2015 01:55pm
There must be a thorough investigation.
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Sep 03, 2015 02:10pm
@Kabeer
Indian movies and dramas take you to the world of dreams and illusions. They exploit human emotions by mixing it with attractive illusioned setting. Innocent minds are taken away from reailties of life. So why not avoid poison mixed in sweets.
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Sep 03, 2015 02:10pm
Feed the toxic indoctrination of Bollywood through media and this is the result. People are crying out loud to stop this non sense for ages.
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Sep 03, 2015 02:12pm
It is so sad. The students should take care their studies and build their future. Parents also has responsibility to watch their activities. Sometimes freedom push them to the wrong direction and this incident may a cause of the freedom.
In Islam such action is prohibited but it has already happened, therefore, we pray to GOD to forget their sin (Ameen).
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Sep 03, 2015 02:23pm
@ZM find a heart. these were kids.
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Sep 03, 2015 02:45pm
At 15 you are too young to decide who to marry anyway. Further in Pakistan in reality no muslim, christian, Sikh or Hindu will allow their daughter to marry an Ismaili and that is just a fact, so what this child's parents said was probably what 99% of Pakistanis and 99.9% of Indians would have said.
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Sep 03, 2015 02:46pm
@SOMO
No mercy upon suiciders. There namaz e janaza is not allowed which means our Lord is also not happy with them. They are suiciders. Find a soul!
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Sep 03, 2015 02:50pm
shameful act....we all feel shame of where our muslim generation is goinggg
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Sep 03, 2015 02:51pm
Sad..Sad..Very very sad...failure of the society and the system...the parents and the teachers must take every act and dialogue of the young ones very seriously and help them with real love and understanding.
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Sep 03, 2015 02:54pm
Infatuation at this age is common agravated by the irresponsible entertainment industry.
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Sep 03, 2015 03:20pm
Get teenagers married !!!
Our culture, society is too stupid to accommodate reason or religion...
Ok it happens in the west, now do it !!!
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Sep 03, 2015 03:24pm
Its high time we think deeply about our society, our values, what we are and what we should be and then work towards being a better community, starting this from home. Very sad indeed!
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Sep 03, 2015 04:03pm
Young age love is the greatest attraction . The more our societies move towards secualism the more scenes of suicide will occur.
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Sep 03, 2015 04:05pm
@El Cid Great explanation. I fully agree.
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Sep 03, 2015 04:24pm
They are kids doubt any parent would take them seriously at 15. Not the parents faulted erythromycin parent tries to protect their child at that age
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Sep 03, 2015 05:42pm
It is result of ignored kids by parents. Watching turkish and Indian love stories on tv while no grooming at home. We are destined to be doomed.
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Sep 03, 2015 05:58pm
@Omran that's quite an uninformed comment. Nowhere in the West do teenagers commit suicide because of caste and sectarian divides. This sickness of preventing young love and guarding the divisions in society is entirely the achievement of our diseased society.
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Sep 03, 2015 07:09pm
Outcomes of Bollywood movies can be seen in our society now. I urge an outright ban on Indian movies in Pakistan.
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Sep 03, 2015 07:34pm
I entirely blame media for such happenings and those parents who don't care what their children are watching on television. Even though we know that attraction between male and female is natural yet our co-education system exists.
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Sep 03, 2015 07:41pm
This is a jolt for patents who have failed to groom the children. This is also a slap on the face of CM Sindh who has made the province hell and on the face of PPPZ who have destroyed a city and society which was a haven for holiday makers and peace loving population of Pakistan.
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Sep 03, 2015 08:09pm
Unbelievable hateful comments. We won't criticize certain dead generals. But look at this we will jump on two dead kids. Extremely hypocritical society that is breaking down.
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Sep 03, 2015 08:43pm
Co-education, well done. Boy was Ismali, was the girl sunni muslim then she is not allowed to marry a non Muslim. Parents know it but they sent her to a co-education school and so is the result. Parents are responsible.
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Sep 03, 2015 08:43pm
Its another blow to our conservative beliefs. I am completely saddened to read this sorrowful piece of writing.
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Sep 03, 2015 08:46pm
Its the time for them to concentrate on studies and not abt marriag.they did not think of their parents before taking this extreme step.feel sorry for their parents.
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Sep 03, 2015 08:53pm
@ZM Teenagers can be rational ? Mostly not. It's just how nature has made us. Parents need to be involved with their children and help them
make the right decisions.
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Sep 03, 2015 09:07pm
how long we can confined these souls in to religion cast creed boundaries .
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Sep 03, 2015 09:50pm
Good riddance.
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Sep 03, 2015 10:17pm
Caste system in Pakistan. Seems things here are not much different than India.
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Sep 03, 2015 11:14pm
Ban Co Education in schools..
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Sep 03, 2015 11:25pm
the main cause is the mobile phones with teenagers and the text messages along with other adult materials that parents are unaware
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Sep 03, 2015 11:39pm
@Jatt I don't buy your arguments. You are far from reality in this modern society.
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Sep 04, 2015 05:37am
Lot of adults commenting like someone who never was in love as teenager. Age 14 to 18 is when love can make you blind. What we adults know as merely "attraction" is pure love in teenagers eyes. So talk to your kids. Be involved in their live. Have them know that they talk to you about anything without the fear of you getting upset.
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Sep 04, 2015 12:12pm
It appears that both discussed with parents but did not get any response
Forget the suicidal case for a moment as it makes us emotional
just think if our own children of 10th grade come to us and discuss this issue, what will we do
i hope none of us will allow this to do at 10th grade, So Main root cause
is vulgar media and dramas
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Sep 04, 2015 05:39pm
Sometime i also think the same ( suicide ) because i am not really frank with my parents nor they are interested in me , i know they love me but i really dont care about their love if i cant share what i am feeling , i had problems an i still have because of them , yes they are the one to be blamed , at least the parents should give some time to their children ask them about the day etc etc ... But ... :(
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Sep 04, 2015 07:02pm
@Ahmad very correct, biggest problem now is lack of interaction between parents and children, all are too busy in TV, phone, mobile etc. we must manage some time for family.
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Sep 05, 2015 02:55am
@ZM
I think it was a pretty rational act. Their sacrifice will lead to change. Honour them rather then condemn them.
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Sep 05, 2015 09:10am
@abdul rafay Teenagers are just as capable of love as anyone else.
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Sep 05, 2015 09:29am
It indicates lack of parent concentration and also unawarenes about islamic education.
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Sep 05, 2015 01:30pm
@illawarrior:"Teenagers are just as capable of love as anyone else."
Not really. Love is a many splendored, very strong all consuming open life enhancing emotion. It emerges, is reflected in a lifetime of affection, caring, respect, esteem, work, dedication, discipline and self sacrifice.
Love does not put a bullet in the brain of the beloved. Lust, hate, selfishness...often does.
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Sep 05, 2015 04:20pm
Both the teenagers are immature face the problem no to end it like this. this is not life that it only flows according to your will but sometimes you have to sacrifice. Every time it is not the fault of parents they spend their whole life to raise you but why can not even share your personal life with them.
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Sep 05, 2015 04:35pm
"Izzat" before "anything else!....what "nonsense"
Two "innocence" lives lost "forever" parents responsibility, if they "cared" could have avoided this tragedy.
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Sep 05, 2015 05:27pm
We should educate our boys and girls systematically and carefully.Both were too younger to do that. Why our boys and girls go to school, for attaining education or falling in love.
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Sep 05, 2015 06:42pm
@Ahmed if you feel your parents are not listening to you, please go and talk to your favourite teacher at school. Ask him/her to advise you or refer you to somebody who can be a listening ear to you. Don't suffer alone in silence. Perhaps an elder cousin or an aunt/uncle can help you.
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Sep 05, 2015 06:48pm
@El Cid love has to start somewhere before it reaches the stage you imply in your response. In this case , love had just started and would have reached its potential if the kids knew they would get the support from their families and society. Unfortunately, we live in very constricted society and innocent young lives are lost due to our narrow thinking.
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Sep 05, 2015 11:13pm
i am so surprised after reading the comments of pak's philosophers and sociologists,that even not a single man highlighted the issue of the problems of co-education in this particular society in the age of great sensitivity and whimsicality i.e (teen-age); the real ghost behind this incident
when people admit their adults in CO schools they must adjust themselves with the outcomes i.e puppy love, infatuation etc
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