Kashmir needs third party intervention, US most relevant: Nawaz
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WASHINGTON: The United States would be the most relevant third party that could intervene to help resolve outstanding issues including Kashmir between India and Pakistan, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif told US senators.
Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Senator Bob Corker along with Ranking Member Senator Ben Cardin received the prime minister and his delegation at the Capitol Hill on Wednesday afternoon — the second day of his visit to Washington, said a statement issued by the Prime Minister's Office.
The premier briefed the meeting — which was attended by several senior members of the committee — about his recent peace initiative towards India announced in the UN General Assembly (UNGA) session.
Members of Senate noted the prime minister's proposal that given India’s resistance to bilaterally resolve outstanding issues including Kashmir, it would be imperative to have third party intervention for which the US would be most relevant, said the handout.
On the same day, Pakistan handed over three dossiers to US Secretary of State John Kerry on India’s involvement in subversive activities in the country.
Outlining his vision of a peaceful neighbourhood, Nawaz reiterated his government's commitment to remain engaged with the Afghan leadership to enhance mutual coordination in dealing with the common challenges of terrorism and promoting peace and reconciliation in Afghanistan.
The prime minister was flanked at the meeting by Finance Minister Ishaq Dar, Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, Defence Minister Khawaja Asif, Advisor on National Security and Foreign Affairs Sartaz Aziz, Special Assistant Tariq Fatemi and Ambassador of Pakistan to the US Jalil Abbas Jilani.
Thanking the Senate committee for their consistent support to democracy, security cooperation and economic development in Pakistan, Nawaz briefed the members about his economic reforms agenda that led to reviving the economy and upgrading Pakistan's economic outlook in recent months, the statement said.
The prime minister also briefed members on the ongoing efforts to rehabilitate the Temporarily Dislocated Persons (TDPs) back in their homes in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) following the clearing of areas by successful military operations.
Appreciating the provision of counter-terrorism assistance by the US Congress, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said that due to the successful operations of Pakistani security forces, militants' command and control infrastructure in Pakistan had been destroyed and the ability of militants to plan or conduct any major attack had been significantly diminished.
Responding to questions by members of the US Congress, the premier remarked that Zarb-i-Azb had achieved its initial targets and entered a decisive phase.
Also read: Ground offensive in Shawal; Zarb-i-Azb enters final phase
Members of the US Congress emphasised that Pakistan was an important country in the region and the US looked forward to engaging with Pakistan to advance the goals of regional peace and stability.
The senators also assured Nawaz of continued support by the US Congress in complimenting Pakistan's efforts to stimulate people-centred growth and eliminating militancy and extremism from the region.
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee is among the important standing committees of the US Congress with the mandate to oversee US foreign policy.
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif arrived in Washington on Tuesday for an official four-day visit. During the visit, the prime minister will hold discussions on wide-ranging issues of bilateral interest with President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and various Cabinet members.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:01pm
and what did US replied on this ?
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Oct 22, 2015 03:01pm
Americans don't see any commercial gains for themselves in Kashmir so don't think they are bothered about it.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:02pm
We must absolutely play cricket together since people and sports lovers across the border love the game.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:05pm
Thats like PM of a Nuclear State ..looks confident and clear in pics .
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Oct 22, 2015 03:06pm
And America said Yes....!!!!!
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Oct 22, 2015 03:06pm
Well Said MNS. We Kashmiris are thankful.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:07pm
Despite Simla Accord, Pakistan must exercise all diplomatic pressure for reviving all UN Security Council Resolutions for resolving the Kashmir Issue, with the UN ensuring an early Plebiscite in Kashmir, as already determined and decided by the UNSC in the 1940's. It is the collective will of the people of Kashmir which should determine the future status of the State of Jammu & Kashmir.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:10pm
United States cant intervene...because it knows in 25-30 years..Indian economy will equal its economy..and India will be one of permanent members of security council...moreover united states need a market for survival of its own industry and there's no bigger market than India.....China is a far one....Why do Mark Zuckerberg keep coming to India....He is again in India now....Why??...just ask yourself...US have a vested interest in India and all western nations infact have.....pakistan is not that much inportant from business point of view...its important only because it has border with afghanistan and iran...else nothing...thats the truth..COEC...lets just see..how it comes out in future..
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Oct 22, 2015 03:12pm
Good thinking because since Simla Agreement which was signed in 1972 both nations could not progress even an inch forward therefore intervention of third party has become imperative to avoid any nuclear collision between the both rivals in future keeping in view the increasing extremism in India
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Oct 22, 2015 03:12pm
If India agreed on Cricket, the result would be different. Good going PM Nawaz.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:13pm
If USA was so concerned about kashmir they would first helped Tibetans Independence from China. Usa is just playing games here so that more and more weapons bought from USA by India and Pakistan. Old days are gone now. World have became more complex. Everybody has their own interests. Even UN is so ineffective that cant stop Syrian war that is going on since 5-6 years. Its always better to solve problems mutually between two countries than involving third party as they will create more problems.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:14pm
Pakistan and India has trust issue . We need third party UN / USA support in some shape or form to resolve Kashmir issue.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:15pm
When this people will learn that no body will / would listen this 'K' issue. world have lots of other issues.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:15pm
Your problem is your problem. US has its own problem. Grow up. Stand up to the matter. Resolve Kashmir if you have guts
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Oct 22, 2015 03:19pm
Nawaz should focus on getting investments from other countries instead of spending time on something that has no immediate solution.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:19pm
@Fried Chillies Play cricket anywhere except Mumbai, Mumbai no mood to indulge Pakistanis till the terrorists who caused a catastrophic tragedy in Mumbai roam free in Pakistan!
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Oct 22, 2015 03:23pm
Usa is just playing games here so that more and more weapons bought from USA by India and Pakistan. Old days are gone now. World have became more complex. Everybody has their own interests. Even UN is so ineffective that cant stop Syrian war that is going on since 5-6 years. Its always better to solve problems mutually between two countries than involving third party as they will create more problems.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:24pm
Where are the signatures on any agreements to enhance trade? Any agreements with some big companies to open in Pakistan?
Only talks, and the ever green F16 headlines
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Oct 22, 2015 03:25pm
Very good Mr. PM.. Keep cool to achieve goals.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:25pm
What happened to dossiers; which were handed over to UN and Kerry? Are they declined, accepted or what?
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Oct 22, 2015 03:32pm
@NAXALITE your opinion doesn't matter because kashmir will aalways remain an integral part of India irrespective of any 3rd party intervention.......
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Oct 22, 2015 03:36pm
@Abdullah Masood yeah..dis drama continues until Kerry says.."no evidence is given"..again..
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Oct 22, 2015 03:37pm
I don't know for the first time in my life, I am optimistic that Kashmir Issue will be resolved via Plebiscite, and IOK will join Pakistan.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:38pm
It is just like asking a monkey (USA) to divide a loaf of bread (Kashmir) between two cats (Pakistan and India).
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Oct 22, 2015 03:38pm
@KASIM As an Indian you are so afraid even you cannot write Kashmir we understand your constraints that's why we are asking for third party intervention
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Oct 22, 2015 03:41pm
What I don't understand - the US "insists" that Pakistan use its influence to bring the Taliban to the peace table (as its far superior equipped armed forces of over 100,000 have not been able to defeat a bunch of hill billies - numbering at most, 25,000 even by the most liberal of estimates - over 14 years).
So why can't Pakistan insist that the US use its influence on India (which it does have - irrespective of what our esteemed neighbours wish to believe).
Spend another 30-50 billion and untold lives lost over the next 5 years or help Pakistan with its issues - so that it can help the US with its issues in Afghanistan. Time to link the issues and create a quid pro quo!!!
But unfortunately our leaders are far less adept at such negotiating tactics and strategies than our brethren to the east. Not even kindergarten math really, but it must be as perplexing as rocket Science to our political masters.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:43pm
Sir, how US will interfere ? they have trillion $ business with India. How China will interfere? they are going to built 20Billion $ Bullet Trains In India..... then who will help u????
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Oct 22, 2015 03:43pm
@Abhishek "Its always better to solve problems mutually between two countries" and what about when one party even do not want to discuss the core issue of Kashmir due to their own mistake of instilling wrong perception for so many years in their own people and now afraid of even talking on any issue (i.e. sir creek, siachen etc.) let alone Kashmir
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Oct 22, 2015 03:44pm
Pakistan is talking to wrong country as a third party for resolution of Kashmir issue. America is well known to be firmly with India on all issues, be it economical, social, security , nuclear, regional etc. They are building India since 90s as their policeman in the region. Everyone in Pakistan know this yet our leaders and policy makers are clueless. Engaging China and perhaps Russia would be a better choice to pressurize India. America, as far as Pakistan is concerned is a lost cause. So get over it and move on.
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Oct 22, 2015 03:47pm
@Sid Kashmir is a longstanding issue and without resolution of Kashmir issue you cannot think of any progress in Sub-continent who will invest long term in such a volatile region when both rivals are equipped with atomic arsenal ?
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Oct 22, 2015 03:52pm
@Naxalite : Well Big No response from USA.
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Oct 22, 2015 04:06pm
Don't u get the message? u r asked to do 'more on terrorism' and solve issues 'mutually' with India. U get same msg from US, UN where ever u go, what India has been saying for long.
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Oct 22, 2015 04:06pm
@Taimoor Khan good luck with Russia and China getting them involved to resolve Kashmir. Pakistan needs to resolve this themselves.
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Oct 22, 2015 04:20pm
I can assure their will never be a third party between our relationship.
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Oct 22, 2015 04:25pm
Does anyone even cares what Nawaz Sharif says about India.
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Oct 22, 2015 04:35pm
@Prateek, You are right Kashmiris themselves will snatch away their country from India. Now that Shev Sena is doing their job, it will become easy for Kashmiris.
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Oct 22, 2015 04:36pm
Third party is already not interested and Pak foreign office already knows that so its just a formality by PM Nawaz
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Oct 22, 2015 04:37pm
@Bitter Dear Member of so-called Largest Democracy, Everyone's opinion matters.
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Oct 22, 2015 04:43pm
@alam "United States cant intervene...because it knows in 25-30 years..Indian economy will equal its economy..and India will be one of permanent members of security council.." nobody can ban day dreaming but remember one thing "beggars are not choosers" try to live in reality so that you can understand the challenges which India is facing since its independence that's why Japan has offered this loan
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Oct 22, 2015 04:46pm
Hai guys, this is old tape record, please let it go. Kashmir-Kashmir, why to loose other opportunity. We wage 3 wars, no result, how long you guys want to keep fighting. Lets learn how to let it go.
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Oct 22, 2015 04:46pm
Kashmir issue will not solved by any 3rd party because INDIA is far to savvy and powerful with a stronger global image and friends.
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Oct 22, 2015 04:49pm
@pms On one hand you claim that you are the largest democracy and at same time you want to chock the voice of millions of Kashmiris and want us to forget about them what a shameful stance
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Oct 22, 2015 04:51pm
Mr NS come out of K-Shell, be a man ,.Pls focus on pak development
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Oct 22, 2015 04:56pm
Just a very simple thing to share. When Modi goes to US or other countries he talks to entrepreneurs,seals economic deals, meets Non Resident Indians, strengthen ties with people and leaders of that nation. Here, the dossiers , RAW, Balochistan, Kashmir, India are the issues Pak PM deals with during his visits. Decide by yourself, what is right?
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Oct 22, 2015 05:07pm
@Prateek then remain stuck in the status quo!
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Oct 22, 2015 05:09pm
@m singh it IS actually playing a mediating role but both India and the US don't admit doing so in public!
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Oct 22, 2015 05:10pm
Nevertheless, if US intervened in the issue, then what you think they will decide in favour of Pakistan. It is an immature and naive thinking.
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Oct 22, 2015 05:10pm
Third party ? Kashmiris are third party. They have the right to decide their future, plan is already there- UN resolution to which JLNehru agreed but reneged soon after.
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Oct 22, 2015 05:13pm
@Abhishek except that India has a silly habit of saying NO!
You call that TALKs?
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Oct 22, 2015 05:15pm
@KASIM the world will have to listen to this pending issue sooner or later!
Better sooner than later!
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Oct 22, 2015 05:18pm
@Bitter
That will continue to be the MAIN problem!
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Oct 22, 2015 05:19pm
Good move by the democratic government to provide proof to US on Indian terror activities.
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Oct 22, 2015 05:25pm
@pms
As long as it takes!
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Oct 22, 2015 05:25pm
Let us be realistic here. When India complained to the US against Pakistan, the US did nothing. The same will also apply to Pakistan. By that US has some kind of parity. As to the supply of F-16 and others warfares, the President of the US proposes and it is the congress that disposes. So it's not done deal. Besides, the kind of F-16 that other countries gets from the US is different than the one US supplies to Israel and other NATO countries. By and large Mr. Sharif's visit to the US is symbolic and may not generate Mr. Modi kind of excitement period.
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Oct 22, 2015 05:37pm
@Taimoor Khan : Russia??? Are you fool ? Russia is always a great friend of India. Remember 1971 war? Moreover India is one of the greatest economic country and has got lot of skilled resources. So not many country including China would want to do any mess. Moreover India has always been neutral and friends towards all country and doesnt intervene into their problems. Its better Pakistan should follow India and concentrate on bettering lives for her citizens
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Oct 22, 2015 05:45pm
@Khan Gee US/UN aren't as relevant as they used to be. Even when they were, they weren't able to resolve the Kashmir issue. Obama was the last person who suggested he would involve himself. But once put in his place by India, he hasn't uttered a word since.
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Oct 22, 2015 05:45pm
Whole world knows the fact independent Kashmir is the only solution.
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Oct 22, 2015 05:47pm
Per UN resolution, Pakistan must withdraw its forces.
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Oct 22, 2015 05:49pm
US will never believe Pakistan any more after Osama episode, Taliban and other non state players in Afghanistan
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Oct 22, 2015 05:52pm
@Muhammad Why did you scuttle the NSA talks by inviting the un-elected Hurryat? The agenda for the talks were all agreed in Ufa. The talk were to be about security and nothing else, so need for involving the Hurryat. You could have even handed over the 'dossier' to India then.
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Oct 22, 2015 05:53pm
Yes Indian economy is bigger but does that mean we should give up support for our Kashmiri brethren?
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Oct 22, 2015 05:56pm
on one side Pakistanis say US is not good mediator in Israel Palestine conflict and situation has gone bad to worst after US involvement and now Pakistan is saying US will be best mediator.
Since long India has declined any 3rd party intervention and same is Simla agreement
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Oct 22, 2015 05:58pm
@Taimoor Khan Russia are still India's biggest arms supplier, with a strategic relationship. China do not believe in Third Party interventions. Not in Tibet, East Turkmenistan, South China Sea or India/China border. How can they possibly support Pakistan on this?
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Oct 22, 2015 06:06pm
Yes we need a third country to solve issues
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Oct 22, 2015 06:07pm
What usa can do ? Remember that usa was totally opposing Bangladesh creation.
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Oct 22, 2015 06:08pm
@Khan Gee Does Pakistan trust the US or UN? :)
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Oct 22, 2015 06:20pm
@Aam Aadmi
Don't underestimate PM Sharif. Recent events have catapulted him into the position of one of world's leading statesmen. When he talks, others listen including Obama.
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Oct 22, 2015 06:22pm
@Prateek
"Americans don't see any commercial gains for themselves in Kashmir so don't think they are bothered about it."
Very bitter but, what you have said is absolutely true.
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Oct 22, 2015 06:22pm
Kashmir is the bone of contention between Pakistan and India and it should be resolved according to the UN resolution.
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Oct 22, 2015 06:23pm
Please understand that India will NEVER give up Kashmir whatever the cost. No Indian govt. will survive more than 24 hours if they let go Kashmir. The only way to solve this issue is by accepting the Line of Control as permanent border. No country-US, Russia, China including will interfere in this issue.
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Oct 22, 2015 06:26pm
US should interven and help for Tibet freedom. Over 1 million Tibetian are refujee in India. China can not hide its evil design.
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Oct 22, 2015 06:40pm
US will not intervene. They understand the relevance of the Simla Agreement better than Pakistan does.
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Oct 22, 2015 06:54pm
Nawaz Sharif you know how US as 3rd party has performed so for between Plastinian and Israel. Are you sure they will take Indian side? Demand UNO to do their job and solve Kashmiri issue according to UN resolution immediately.
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Oct 22, 2015 07:18pm
Honor your agreement, Shimla agreement was signed by your leaders
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Oct 22, 2015 07:23pm
Did Sharif take some mangoes for Obama?
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Oct 22, 2015 07:28pm
Let's see if anything comes out at all from this pleadings with the UN & USA.
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Oct 22, 2015 07:30pm
@Asam Khan Even if your were correct, which you are not, it's not going to happen. Do you think it's worth spending time on something that has not even a remote chance of happening?
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Oct 22, 2015 07:52pm
@JA USA ignored receiving the dossier. Kerry did not even acknowledge that Pakistan PM handed over a dossier To him.
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Oct 22, 2015 08:04pm
India staved off interventions from duper-powers USA,Russia at weaker phases of its existence. India poked harder by taking up non-aliance movement andlost a lot, but stood its ground.
Why do Pakistani leaders think India will relent when India is emenrging as a much stronger nation. Does it not beat logic?
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Oct 22, 2015 08:06pm
@Realist , then why go there and ask for assistance?
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Oct 22, 2015 08:08pm
@Abhishek
"Its always better to solve problems mutually between two countries than involving third party."
Yes it is. But India does not want to resolve the issue. When India and Pakistan come to the negotiation table, first thing India tells Pakistan, "KASHMIR IS AN INEGRAL PART OF INDIA." Then what is the point of meeting?
"KASHMIR IS NOT AN INEGRAL PART OF INDIA."
India intends to keep lying with the world that she is willing to negotiate.
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Oct 22, 2015 08:17pm
@Prateek thats what you think. american interests are aligned with chinese interests in that region. and china needs to keep india away from pakistan in order for its one road one belt to succeed. expect india and your ajit doval to get a phone call very soon.
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Oct 22, 2015 08:18pm
@alam india will be nowhere near US or china in 20-25 years. pakistan will ensure that.
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Oct 22, 2015 08:21pm
no third party.
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Oct 22, 2015 08:29pm
@Amarnath
"India is emerging as a much stronger nation"
Yes stronger nation of hungry people with 70% percent of its population living below poverty line.
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Oct 22, 2015 08:30pm
US refused to acknowledge the dossiers against India.
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Oct 22, 2015 08:31pm
@Fareed (usa) Have you gone thru that resolution which every Pakistanis speaks about? And do you even have under which charter it is. Visit UN website and, read it and open you eyes.
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Oct 22, 2015 08:32pm
Kashmir is an integral part of Pakistan, over and above Hydrabad and Junagar are also parts of Pakistan...What India is doing is very bad for India and its people...this will it into many parts.Muslims in India are growing they will stand for their rights so will the Sikh and the Christians.
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Oct 22, 2015 08:32pm
What is the purpose of UN ? WAR still happening !Countries suffering increases many folds ! More than 50 years old issues still not yet resolved!!
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Oct 22, 2015 08:54pm
@hamza khan
You could not stop our economy going up and up during the last 20 years. What prompts you to be so sure you will be able to stop it during the next 20 years?
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Oct 22, 2015 08:55pm
@Muhammad - In democracy, national issues are decided by entire country. So, entire India (including Kashmiris) have decided that entire Kashmir is an inseparable and sovereign part of India and will remain so forever.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:04pm
I am unable to understand Pakistani sentiment. Can you live without India? you are forcing us to play cricket with you simultaneously you are asking to resolve Kashmir issue on your condition.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:06pm
@Fareed (usa) Have you read the UN Resolution? Go and read it; matter of fact, you do not have to read the whole thing. Read the first condition and tell me if Pakistan has implemented the first condition.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:09pm
No comments from usa side ??
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Oct 22, 2015 09:22pm
now kashmir issue should be resolved otherwise it will became dangerous for world bcz in jamu kashmir those families are being victimized their coming generations joining different tanzeem for revenge.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:26pm
With all forms of nuclear weapons and military and navel forces, Pakistan should try to get back its lost property.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:26pm
@Khan Gee Trust cannot be built by third parties. Trust needs to be built between the two countries. Third parties always have a vested interest in keeping conflicts alive or in interfering to advance their own agendas. Unless Pakistan and India talk, nothing can be achieved. We should start with the easier issues and then get to the tough ones.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:28pm
Another folly in Floreign Affairs by PML-N. India has always insisted non involvement of 3rd party. So will US be willing to exert any pressure on India - and annoy Indians very clearly a big NO.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:28pm
@JA they said, India will be talked to.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:29pm
@Khalil Anwer Hassan This is the same statement that we have been hearing for a long time and it has got us nowhere. Isn't it time to change the approach?
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Oct 22, 2015 09:29pm
@KASIM death, oppression and blood cannot be suppressed so world is already listening.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:30pm
pakistan ask both kashmir and 15 crore indian muslim -unfinished agenda of two nation theory
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Oct 22, 2015 09:31pm
@Abhishek we tried but in response india violated Loc. India is the obstacle, it needs third party like UN.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:32pm
@KRush
Since this accord was brokered by the UN. So India and Pakistan should get together under UN supervision and start implementing the 1948 resolution step by step and then hold referendum in Kashmir.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:35pm
@JA Thats wrong question, question is did US reply ? even before that, did US listen ?
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Oct 22, 2015 09:44pm
USA didnt help you when there was polarized world and India was inclined toward Russia. Now there is absolutely no chance. Please nawaz mian, you raised issue, your duty is complete now,
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Oct 22, 2015 09:48pm
@alam,Strategically,Pakistan is extremely important,why in the world do you think the Americans,the Arabs and the Chinese are always playing friends with Pakistan,the world needs Pakistan in every way you can think of.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:56pm
@JA Today or tomorrow or sometime in the near future, US has to play its role. Kashmir's issue is no Lilliput and Blefuscu story, two neighbors with nuclear teeth are looking eye to eye. US should not delay anymore, this is a serious issue requiring attention.
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Oct 22, 2015 10:05pm
China is a good country to ask for. U.S. Is India ally do is Russia.
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Oct 22, 2015 10:11pm
Have we stoo with Taiwan? Have we stood with Tibet? Have we stood with Irelan? Have we stood with Srilankan Tamil? Have we stood up with Bosnian muslims? The answer to all is "NO"!
Why do we expect world to support us when our demand is "Kashmir" is Muslim and so merge with Pakistan. We failed to fight for Rohingya!
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Oct 22, 2015 10:20pm
NS said for 3rd party intervention...but US consider it bilateral...
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Oct 22, 2015 10:34pm
@m singh yes.
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Oct 22, 2015 10:36pm
@Abhishek
Entirely agree with you...best comment.
Have a good day.
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Oct 22, 2015 10:40pm
@alam in 25-30 years, kashmir would have joined pakistan. Sikh khalistan will be independent as will the 7 sister states in the east. China will be a super power and CPEC will be its key trade route. US power would have wained. UNSC will still have same 5 members with veto power. Better India resolve kashmir and save what it has now.
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Oct 22, 2015 10:49pm
@OS
In the current circumstances defence has to be far more important for Pakistan any other area of development, particularly as India continues to pile up weapons. Remember when Pakistan was vulnerable it was broken into two, so India will never be trusted. India also knows if it became unstable such as a result of reactivation of Khalistan freedom movement a (now) strong Pakistan could do the same what India did in the then East Pakistan. The arms race will continue thus.
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Oct 22, 2015 11:05pm
@Taimoor Khan
I can understand your point. The fact however seems to be that India has really not proven to be an effective and mature policeman in the region despite US grooming. It has already been kicked out of Afghanistan issues with the entire hopes, despite mistrust, being focussed on Pakistan.
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Oct 22, 2015 11:19pm
@Dev
You need to change you perception. Pakistan is much stronger now and is willing to act at appropriate opportunity. You got away in Kargil due to rift developing between Nawaz Sharif and Gen Musharaff and thanks to Bill Clinton on whose mediation Pakistan agreed to withdraw its forces.
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Oct 22, 2015 11:44pm
@Prakash Puthalath
The problem does not cease just because resolving Kashmir issue would see the government of the day being kicked out. And Pakistan has even more pressing reason to keep supporting Kashmiris. Pakistan also knows that it will have to do something on its own rather than expecting any third part intervention. Pakistan is now much stronger than in the past and all it has to do is to continue enhancing its defence system while waiting for the right opportunity. Do not forget apart from Kashmir the Khalistan movement could re-emerge and Pakistan could intervene in the same way as India did in the erstwhile East Pakistan.
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Oct 22, 2015 11:50pm
The problem is India sees US as equal and therefore will not ask any intervention from them. Because they do not need international intervention. India is strong. Pakistan on the other hand uses US as a big brother.
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Oct 22, 2015 11:53pm
You won't post my comment and I know it.. But man.. They should really change the name from Islamic republic because Islamic republic would not stoop so low that it will ask the biggest oppressors in the planet to become the arbitrator.. This NS guy has no pride and is selling the remaining pride of the country as well..
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Oct 23, 2015 12:19am
"When I have a dispute with my neighbor, nobody from anywhere can understand and solve the dispute between us. I have to sit together with my my neighbor and find a way out between us."
Mahatma Gandhi.
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Oct 23, 2015 12:21am
UN is involved since day one and its observers are watching LOC 24/7 but, what have they done in 67 years?
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Oct 23, 2015 12:25am
@alam : This all your wishful thinking. Otherwise, Afghan Drug business is what brings the US forces in Afghanistan. After that, the world's largest White-Gold deposit which is the future fuel of the world, is in Afghanistan. It is called Lithium.
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Oct 23, 2015 12:31am
Great, You sign a bilateral simla agreement and now go back on it. How can some country Trust you, when you do not adhere to your signatures !!!
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Oct 23, 2015 12:41am
@Fareed (usa) just like Pakistan does not agree to Signed Simla agreement
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Oct 23, 2015 12:45am
@Rao News to me.
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Oct 23, 2015 01:11am
@Abhishek
Well commented.
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Oct 23, 2015 01:11am
@Faisal
Good luck.
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Oct 23, 2015 01:16am
@alam so power can kill people?
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Oct 23, 2015 01:17am
@Taimoor Khan
China and Russians have similar problem in their countries so why would they stick their nose and help Pakistan in this matter.
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Oct 23, 2015 01:20am
@Progressing Is that the reason for drone attacks, rebuffs and absolute humiliation of our leaders by USA?
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Oct 23, 2015 01:28am
@Mohammad Salim Khalid
Very amusing comment.
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Oct 23, 2015 01:41am
@Aurangzeb
Where did you get this information. It is rubbish because no country icare about Kashmir issue. Each country has similar problem in their country.
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Oct 23, 2015 01:49am
@Muhammad "@Sid Kashmir is a longstanding issue and without resolution of Kashmir issue you cannot think of any progress in Sub-continent who will invest long term in such a volatile region when both rivals are equipped with atomic arsenal ?"
In Jan to June 2015, India received foreign direct investment of $31 billion. This is the highest investment received by any country in the world in this period. So do not be under the false impresion that Pakistan can exercise a veto over India's growth. It cant
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Oct 23, 2015 01:58am
@Shah According to World Bank data, India has 21.3% people living under $1.9 per day as of 2011. http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/country/IND
Could you please provide references fo your claim that 70% Indians live below the property line?
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Oct 23, 2015 02:46am
@Faisal
Ha Ha ha. i like your sarcasm
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Oct 23, 2015 03:10am
I don't understand why Pakistan is so much behind Kashmir? If they feel that Kashmir s taken away by India from them, then they should as well fight for Bangladesh which was very much a part of Pakistan.No one is talking about it. But for Kashmir, Pakistan is willing to starve its people.. Better make what ever is there a better place to live. Is there a need?
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Oct 23, 2015 03:44am
@Khalil Anwer Hassan if Pakistan is bound to follow Shimla Agreement then India is also bound to follow UN resolutions. Objective is to bring peace with justice.
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Oct 23, 2015 03:56am
@Sam Khan of course not. Kashmir problem can only be resolved by developing Pakistan. See south Korea and Japan. They are small countries but with huge economies. I am sure thay if we kept adding in our economy we shall make it. Current on going efforts are just to inform the world that India is suppressing.
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Oct 23, 2015 05:25am
@Dr. Abdul Rahman - New York - Sir, no. Simla Agreement replaced UNSC Resolutions. I am certain you need to read both: The UNSC Resolution 47 to know why it was never implemented. And, the Shimla Agreement to know how Pakistan has been breaking that agreement.
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Oct 23, 2015 05:36am
The only reason US is even talking to Pakistan is to have a handle on the Afghan situation. Once US washes its hands off Afghanistan, it will say goodbye to Pakistan as well. Forget Kashmir, plan for self-sustenance after the umbilical cord is cut.
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Oct 23, 2015 06:19am
Both India and Pakistan are exploiting Kashmiri people. We need Independent Kashmir free from Pakistan and India.
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Oct 23, 2015 06:47am
Fix your issues on your own. It's been almost 70 years since independence and still you look helpless while dealing with your so called core issue i.e. Kashmir.
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Oct 23, 2015 08:21am
Pakistan just do not want to leave in peace.Does pakistan believe US ? Can us do anything for Tibbetian people to get them independent from China ? Does UN can bring peace in Syria ? So its better for pakistan and indian to resolve their issue mutually.We would like to know since last 40 years what kind of development Pakistan kashmir has made under Pakistan govt? what is its literacy rate ? what per capita income there?
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Oct 23, 2015 08:26am
@George Well my friend.. the equation is that one is inching towards super power tag while the other is threatening globe with its nuclear arsenal..Business interests have always been upheld by any nation ( US especially ) hence it will make far better sense to improve the economy first before asking the global powers to intervene on K matter..
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Oct 23, 2015 10:10am
In my considered opinion no outside intervention is require as almost a mutually agreed formula was close to a decision. Some fine tuning is only required. Perhaps, Sh Kasuri, former foreign minister of Pakistan may be able to handle quickly as he is fully aware of the background. Please give this a chance and opportunity.
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Oct 23, 2015 10:16am
@Asam Khan It takes intelligence to understand.
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Oct 24, 2015 01:35am
India does not want any third party intervention in Kashmir. Israel does not want a third party intervention in Palestine. Do both deliberate before making policies? They are so similar.
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Oct 24, 2015 01:59am
this shows that there is no leverage left in bilateral ties so a third party is now required .US is supplying arms big time to India so why should it talk peace .they will stop selling if they do so.
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Oct 24, 2015 02:19am
The united nations has now completed 70 years of existence and issues related to muslim communities are still burning alive .....Today's the birthday of United Nations..noshin
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Oct 24, 2015 02:22am
The US. has accepted the Kashmir as a disputed territory and has prescribed the solution to this ever burninng issue ...Has anything been documented between US. President and our beloved P.M. on his Issue????
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Oct 24, 2015 02:22am
The US. has accepted the Kashmir as a disputed territory and has prescribed the solution to this ever burninng issue ...Has anything been documented between US. President and our beloved P.M. on his Issue????
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Oct 24, 2015 03:05am
@Prateek But I am sure they are smart enough to visualize the losses, that can occur on their investments and commercial ventures due to escalation of violent conflict between two countries.
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Oct 24, 2015 03:19am
@alam
Well if he is really that smart, than it should not take him too long to realize, after a nuclear war with Pakistan, there will be no India or Pakistan left to do business, they both will turn into a stone age, or more likely a waste land unable to grow even a weed. They will have may be few zombies to die soon of cancer. Not great prospects of spreading IT ventures.
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Oct 24, 2015 05:42am
The photograph of PM NS with US senators and committee is impressive. However, was their response equally impressive on Kashmir? and this is not the first time. Would have been a saving grace, if Kashmir issue not talked about? Doesn't the same go with UN?
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Oct 24, 2015 07:23am
It all depends on India,whether it choice for plebiscite,intervention by 3rd party,or arbitration. Look at the case of East Timor,how it got independence,similarly once India got realised that she can't afford to keep Kashmir anymore,she would come to table.The Indian expenditure in holding Kashmir is so massive that it's not been disclosed so far,and as time passed it's increasing .Even super powers like Britain,Russia,& US (now about to vacate)Afghanistan,due to dent in their economies.So it's for India to think & rethink,the sooner it vacate the better,the later means a bigger dent in economy.
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Oct 24, 2015 07:28am
India will forever keep it's part of Kashmir and we can only agree to the other part of Kashmir to be retained by Pakistan. But a surprise is neither India nor Pakistan ever talks to China about the third part of Kashmir, which is integrated with China. This shows, the kind of weakness we both Indians and Pakistanis have and also, it shows what kind of hypocrites we are.
I have grown up believing in secularism and that's what I was taught. Today, I feel sad & embarrassed for what's happening in my country, I only wish for return of normalcy, which will come only if govt takes charge, which is also difficult, since many lack the guts or will or vision. I still believe that as a country, with young population, most of them looking at education as a means progress, gets the ideals from their mentors, parents and teachers, will have matured approach and will not bend so easily to the extremists or fascists elements in the society.
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Oct 24, 2015 07:30am
You might still question about what's happening in Kashmir. Simply put, the leadership never looked at solving the problem in a right way. They lacked vision, strategy and played politics to win or to continue with their rule. When we look at terrorism, its from within and outside. Somehow, extremism penetrated every corner of India, but not successful, because of geographical location, porous border, relentless efforts gave it in Kashmir, but again Indian govt made a folly by having large contingent of BSF and army, which created more issues and this in fighting suppressed Kashmiris freedom. I wish the return of normalcy and to make it needs what is missing now among rulers.
With that being said, I still reiterate the fact that, India will never give up its part of Kashmir. As an Indian, I consider Kashmir is our head and we will not give our head.
Whatever the parts lost before independence are lost, but will not part with any part from Kashmir to Kanyakumari / Jaisalmer to Kohima.
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Oct 24, 2015 07:30am
If some Pakistanis, think that Kasmiris are your brothers, just because they are Muslims, then think of rest of the Muslims in entire South Asia as your brothers and tell us why Bengalis fought back to make themselves independent. After accepting them as your country men, what is it that you did, which made them part with you?
If we look at our undivided Indian history, then I should say that by logic, you are my brother too and I can accept you as my brother with a different faith, from a different country, then can you reciprocate the same?
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Oct 24, 2015 08:09am
@Khalil Anwer Hassan and that's why no third party intervention is needed, UN is responsible for delaying justice to Kashmiris. UN should fulfill its responsibility without any further delay. Pakistan should never accept any other option otherwise that will be a blunder.
Every country looks for its own interests and not yours don't Pakistani politicians understand it?
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Oct 24, 2015 08:32am
@babu "With all forms of nuclear weapons and military and navel forces, Pakistan should try to get back its lost property."
Nuclear or any other war is not the way. Warmongering doesn't help any situation. And I don't appreciate you usurping my name.
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Oct 24, 2015 08:32am
Nobody is going to help you solve Kashmir problem we have to do it ourselves one way or the other, Nawaz you can't do it you can't even solve KALA BAHGH DAM issue. We need a leader.
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Oct 24, 2015 08:35am
@JA what USA replied Nawaz Sharif did not understand.
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Oct 24, 2015 09:05am
@alam Pakistan is important ally of USA in many areas. If US and European wants to see Pakistan as a prosperous country. They can divert their investments to Pakistan. After all Pakistan is equipped with skill and young labour and gifted by great intellectuals. Those who oppose meetings and post disappointing remarks about Pakistan are enemies of Pakistan. We have to get rid of terrorism, engage in dialogue with India for peaceful resolution of Kashmir. India should understand that freedom of Kashmiris and free independent state of Kashmir is in the best interest of India.
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Oct 24, 2015 09:18am
@Mahendra Singh PM did well. These are the main issues for Pakistan, which are badly needed to be resolved on priority basis.
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Oct 24, 2015 09:46am
@Khalil Anwer Hassan Pakistan signed the Shimla agreement which negates the UN resolution. Pakistan keeps harping about UN resolution on every foram then why doesn't it full fill the first clause of the resolution which states - Pakistan must vacate the areas of Kashmir occupied by it. Also this resolution is a Non Binding one as it was drafted under chapter VI . Has Pakistan ever wondered why it gets little or no support from even its allies on this?
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Oct 24, 2015 10:03am
Bereft of solving the longstanding Kashmir issue , it is likely in the long run that there would be tensions between the two countries.
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Oct 24, 2015 10:13am
I think people on both side of border wants development, peace, prosperity & progress. Our leader must understand feelings of common people on both side and work accordingly.
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Oct 24, 2015 12:01pm
The dossiers seems to be highly confidential for Pakistani people. Forget about sharing they even don't want to disclose what is written in it. unlike India where the dossiers given to Pakistan were shown on TV.
Seems to be only an eye wash.
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Oct 24, 2015 12:03pm
@Muhammad
Kashmir is not issue. you are making that issue. issue become issue.........next what.
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Oct 24, 2015 02:01pm
What interest US has in solving this problem? As long as India and Pakistan keep fighting over this issue, US will be happy for her stakes in the region would be high. If Pakistan is really serious in a solution to this problem, she should talk with India directly. Good intent coupled with elimination of terrorists from her soil would automatically pave the way for a solution to the imbroglio.
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Oct 24, 2015 02:11pm
In a time where everyone is so busy making life better by earning more, learning more and enjoying more and getting the best out of himself but Pakistan is fixed in Kashmir since last 65 years. Now you decide yourself what can you get if you haven't got it in 65 years and India has moved far away from you.
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Oct 24, 2015 06:26pm
If we escalate the conflict with India, US will automatically intervene. But we wont escalate the conflict - we are the best people in the world :)
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Oct 24, 2015 09:35pm
US is probably the one of the reasons If not the only reason of unresolved Kashmir issue.you can't ask US to arbitrate in the matter which If resolved will affect it s own interests.
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