Azhar, Hafeez may face disciplinary action for opposing Amir's return: Shaharyar
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Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Shaharyar Khan hinted that opener Mohammad Hafeez and Azhar Ali may face disciplinary action after the duo boycotted a fitness training camp which also included the spot-fixing tainted pacer Mohammad Amir.
Shaharyar was quoted as saying by BBC Urdu: “We have talked earlier regarding this matter and we will talk again, but still if they (Azhar and Hafeez) do not agree then the PCB will think about a disciplinary action against them.”
Amir’s bid to make a comeback to the national side was given a major boost last week after the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) inducted the fast bowler in a camp for 26 players which also includes T20 captain Shahid Afridi.
And on Wednesday the board issued a detailed press release backing Amir’s return to the national setup going as far as saying that “even Islam calls for forgiveness in such cases.”
But PCB’s efforts to reintegrate the pacer back into the national side took a hit on Thursday after Ali and Hafeez failed to ‘report to the camp’ at the National Cricket Academy in Lahore.
“Hafeez and Azhar Ali attended the camp in the morning but have not reported back,” PCB media manager Agha Akbar told Dawn without divulging too many details.
Azhar, however, went public with his opposition soon after the development was reported in the news.
“We will not take part in a camp which also includes Amir. We will not back down on our stance but are willing to discuss the matter with PCB chairman Shaharyar Khan,” Azhar was quoted as saying by Geo News.
In November, Hafeez turned down an offer from Chittagong Vikings to feature in the Bangladesh Premier League as the franchise had already signed Amir.
Misbah warns of unpredictable repercussions of Amir’s return
Test skipper Misbahul Haq warned that Amir’s return to the national side will bring a host of challenges for the team management.
Amir is on the brink of return to the Pakistan side following impressive performances since he was allowed to play professional cricket again after a ban following conviction in the famous spot-fixing saga in 2010.
The 23-year-old initially caused destruction through his bowling in Grade II cricket and then went on the take 14 wickets in nine matches during the recently concluded Bangladesh Premier League (BPL).
During an interview to BBC Urdu on Thursday, Misbah said that Amir’s comeback to the side will not put an end to the already long-lasting issue, but new intricacies will rise.
“The concern regarding Amir’s return is a complicated subject,” said Misbah.
“Me as the Test captain, players in the team and the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) will have to go through a testing process after Amir comes back.”
Misbah believed repercussions of Amir’s return to the national team are unpredictable.
“The reaction of cricket fans and the media when Amir comes back into the side is very uncertain and hard to predict.”
The middle-order batsman said the captain in charge and the team management will have to face a lot when Amir comes back.
“It will surely be difficult for the Pakistan captains when they will have Amir playing under them,” said Misbah.
“They will have to face questions from media when they travel to places like England.
“It will be much easier for them within the country though,” added the Mianwali born cricketer.
Misbah also hoped that the PCB will be successful in clearing the concerns of the players who have voiced their disapproval towards Amir’s return.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:00pm
both of them should be dropped. Azhar was always a liability as far as Hafeez is concerned he cant ball and there is nothing special to talk about his batting.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:02pm
Hafeez knows how can he face Amir after his comment during BPL.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:02pm
I say drop them out, specially Hafeez. The man has zero ability to play international cricket purely as a batsman if the opposing teams are not Zimbabwe and the game is not played in the sub continent.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:04pm
So now pcb is punishing honest players for a fixer?
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Dec 24, 2015 09:05pm
Why is PCB so keen to bring back a corrupt cricketer..? They haven't even punished him, only ICC did. There are plenty of other talented cricketers out there.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:06pm
Great. We don't need them anyway as they both play politics and not for their country.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:06pm
Misbah ,Mohammad Hafeez and Azhar Ali are not accepting Mohammad Amir in Pakistan team , reason best know to them only !, I think they all three to retire from cricket and come up with the story behind there opposition against Amir !
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Dec 24, 2015 09:10pm
Well said Misbah. People who brought humiliation to this country should never be the part of the team.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:12pm
Why?
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Dec 24, 2015 09:18pm
Sharyar
Rewarding the culprit and punishing the honest????
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Dec 24, 2015 09:18pm
Kodos and respect to Azhar and Hafeez
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Dec 24, 2015 09:18pm
What Amir did was wrong but he served the time for his crime and should be allowed back if he can perform and be an asset. What if he has learned from his mistake and wants to earn the trust back and make his country proud again. Wouldn't that be an amazing comeback story? Do Hafeez and Ali really think they're so perfect themselves and have never done any wrong in their own lives. Maybe they should look at themselves first before judging others. We should all help each other when we're down and help them get back up. If god can forgive, then why are humans so stubborn.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:21pm
Common guys.Grow up.Let Aamir come help him to become a good citizen and moreover he has already served his punishment.He know that this is his last chance.Learn to forgive that is what Islam teaches.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:22pm
All these people are making assumptions about how with return of Amir will create problems, distraction etc.. But one thing is for sure that so far only people like Misbah, Ramiz and Hafeez are creating problems for Pakistan and trying to make issue out of non issue. These people have alternative motives behind these schemes with creating these negative speculations and obviously the don't put Pakistan first...
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Dec 24, 2015 09:23pm
PCB needed to engage with the players beforehand instead of being reactionary now which shows how unprepared they were for this key moment.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:25pm
PCB should take a firm stand to back up Amir. If Azhar and Hafiz are not willing to play then PCB should take stern disciplinary action against them. Misbah should have backed Amir instead of making a vague statement.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:26pm
If it had happened in some western countries they must have supported this player who already had served hi sentence. This is dirty politics rather focusing on game.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:29pm
Amir has paid for his crime. He should be given a second chance. These days people have forgotten basic human values of mercy and compassion. Values that are at the heart of Islam
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Dec 24, 2015 09:29pm
Yes please... It would be another rare wise decision from pcb
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Dec 24, 2015 09:29pm
This is absurd.
That kid got his punishment n now he is a free man.
U all call urselves Muslims when U can't even do justice?? Islam totally allows free will after the person has fulfilled their punishment. Amir is this a free man n is allowed to play..
Instead of helping him get bak n retribute these stupid players t creating problems.. They shuld be given fair warning n if they persist they shuld be kicked out..
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Dec 24, 2015 09:30pm
In Pakistan -- if you commit a crime, you will be regarded as a "hero". I appreciate the fact that hafeez and Ali are taking a very good stance against this gentleman's inclusion. If Pakistan has any decency left, they should not include or reward the convicted folks in their camp. I can see the vast majority of the people support Amir but they forgot that Pakistan was a laughingstock even in the USA where people don't give much damn about cricket.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:32pm
And how will it be difficult to answer questions about Amir's inclusion in the team especially in England? All you need to say is that he has been punished for his crime. He has apologised. Was extremely young and naive. It's human to make mistakes. Keep it short and simple
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Dec 24, 2015 09:32pm
Drop both of them,they are useless any way...whenever Pakistan cricket gets a chance
to come out of under water someone from within tries to sabotage...
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Dec 24, 2015 09:36pm
Please drop both Hafeez and Azhar from the WC squad.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:39pm
teams like england, australia, india, etc will exploit amir's past in sledging ... it will be a serious pressure on players under tense situation
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Dec 24, 2015 09:42pm
Azhar and Hafeez are playing politics. It will not be major affect on team if both were dropped but it will be big boost for Pakistan bowling if Aamir returns. Aamir already repented served his punishment. These two players are looking at Aamir negative side which brought shame for Pakistan. Now they must look at positive image of Pakistan by utilizing Aamir's talent. He has so much talent which should not be wasted in front of Azhar and Hafeez egos.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:45pm
Have we never made any mistakes in our lives? Do we think Hafeez, Azhar, and Misbah are "perfect" and never made any mistake in their lives? There is a difference between a habitual mistake and an innocent mistake. What we know today is that Amir made an innocent mistake and has regretted. He has received the worldly punishment and now he should be given a chance to live a normal life and pursue his passion and career. I am not asking to "forgive" Amir......as he has already served his punishment by the court of law. Sorry guys, I respect Hafeez and Misbah (don't know much about Azhar) however, they need to introspect and think about how they are adding to an already negative society they live in. They should be a role model to help build the nation on positive approaches and not using the typical Mullah approach....
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Dec 24, 2015 09:51pm
Let's think this logically.
Hafeez: 35 years old. statistics: 26 in ODI ranking. year left of service. hardly 2 years.
Azhar: Really poor captaincy in most of his ODI. 40th in ODI ranking.
Amir: Banned for 5 years. apologized for his behaviour. 23 years old. 10-12 years left in cricket. Came back strong in bowling. Took out Afridi, Misbah, Hafeez...hmmm..
Who would you pick?
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Dec 24, 2015 09:52pm
Hell no he sold his country when Pakistan lost to England in that match where he done noballs how many Pakistani people got hurt losing that match...99.99 people of Pakistan are lost they have no brain that's why lots of bad things happen in Pakistan they sell them self
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Dec 24, 2015 09:54pm
No question of can, they must face highest disciplinary action that should give a real lesson to all such imposers.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:55pm
Yes both should be dropped from the Pakistan cricket
We do not need this divisive mentality in cricket.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:57pm
@Hassaan - Both Hafiz and Ali dint particpaye in cheating... they didnt perform well that being paid. there is a difference and lets not curse Hafeez and Ali.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:58pm
@spock Hafeez and Azhar are not the owners of Cricket in Pakistan. They have to follow the discipline. I would have agreed with their stance if Amir would have been included in the team without serving his punishment.
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Dec 24, 2015 09:59pm
What about taking disciplinary action against the chairman for allowing Amir to join the training camp.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:00pm
It is strange logic, all these players are fine playing with Afridi who caught tempering ball on camera in Australia. It was equally humiliating and disgraceful for Pakistani fans at that time but these guys seem to be ok with him.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:04pm
Amir's past action to disgrace his country for which he suffered and returns to play again is one thing . The other is his ability to play Cricket as his livelihood is another thing ... its a difficult and complex matter and hard to make a clean decision. I think it will be fair to assume that he will behave in future and we should not deprive him from playing again. The rest of the players should be accommodating and compromising.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:08pm
Pcb Should not rush him in the best thing is to sit and talk and talk again. Its not only azhar and hafeez, according to reports there are some more. Rushing him in may result in groupings in team.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:10pm
Good warning by PCB Chairman. he should once & for all declare that Aamir will be a part of Pakistan cricket team.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:17pm
Good on them for standing up for what they believe in...Speaking of damage to cricket Did Hafeez not get banned from bowling for 12 months because he was chucking? Did Afridi not get banned for biting the ball? For attempting to Doctor the pitch? The kid made a mistake he had paid the price let him play
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Dec 24, 2015 10:23pm
So bizarre it seems Pakistan Players are more confused then rest of the world, its very easy for the captains to face media and tell them that he has learned his lesson and he accepted his mistake. Amir was under bad influence a lad coming from a humble background not well educated can easily fall into this situation easily, imagine his stress level, he is making his case with his performance. Nation should show sportsman spirit
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Dec 24, 2015 10:24pm
Mr. Sheharyar Khan---you have talked enough---now it is time for action. TheWRIT of the management must be imposed.
Terminate the services of these two players. Their presence will create issues in the team.
Both these players had enough time to think and decide which way they wanted to go.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:28pm
Let Amir play. He is a young boy. There mistakes committed by everyone and in every field.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:28pm
What Amir can give Pakistan team, neither Azhar nor Hafiz can do so . So undoubtedly Amir deserves to be given more importance than Azhar and Hafiz.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:29pm
Muhammad Amir is as clean as other players in pakistani team after completing his 5 year ban sentence for his crime which was as per ICC law. Now no one should be allowed to put personal opinion on his inclusion.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:32pm
@Ali well Pakistan won that match and Amir was man of the match as well as man of the series
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Dec 24, 2015 10:33pm
Azhar, Hafeez and Misbah are perfect example of the Pakistan society where tolerance and forgiveness doesn't exist and every citizen is Haji and Judge to pass out their own judgments and then try and impose on others, too hell with these three.
On the other hand I am perfectly sure ECB pushing Shahryar to include Amir in team for some fixing reasons deal that may have made back in 2010 after the saga. Not that I oppose Amir's return, I want him back but PCB need to sit down with players and deal in media these issues. but I reckon that's the way country is being run too, via media...
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Dec 24, 2015 10:35pm
Thank you Shaharyar. This how you enforce discipline!
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Dec 24, 2015 10:35pm
The players cannot make comments publicly on managerial issues. If Hafeez and Azhar has problems with Amir's return then just go to management. Don't go to the media. Integrity of the Pakistan cricket team is more important then individuals. By law there is nothing against Amir for his come back.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:36pm
Amir committed a crime for which he was duly punished. Since, the crime is to be loathed and not the person committing it, I do not find any reason why these people are against Amir's comeback. He did something wrong and as a consequence suffered the punishment, now we do not have anything personal against him. Also, constitution protects Amir. The constitution of Pakistan, 1973 categorically protects against 'double jeopardy' or double punishment against a crime. Article 13 states that no two punishments will be meted out against one crime. What these people are doing is not only unethical but unconstitutional too. They are trying to infringe upon the fundamental rights of Muhammad Amir. That said, Hafeez and Azhar are useless cricketers and they have proved that are worse humans. Lastly, Shane Warne, the legendary spin bowler from Australia was banned for one year. Apparently, he was using diuretics. Afterwards, he was rehabilitated and donned aussie colors.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:36pm
pcb is a governing body, player should respect its decision if they cant, then stop playing for pcb and pakistan.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:40pm
Misbah the one who made Pakistan loose world cup final to India and then other world cup semi final to them is saying this, Hafeez never scored in south Africa, Australia, new Zealand and England how can he comment, Azhar Ali the one who tried a lot to try to become a one day and T20 player but haven't been able to do so is commenting. Nobody questioned Simuels or Gibbs so why will anybody question him. Everybody questioned misbah's batting vs india, Hafeez's career outside Asia. And nobody is saying them anything.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:42pm
Here is the opportunity to drop them since they both have no place in ODI team. I hope PCB will capitalize this and correct their mistake which they made by making Azhar ODI captain.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:43pm
I think Amir should be given a chance to correct himself. Azhar and Hafeez have no right to object PCB decision. I was expecting that being senior players they should have shown some responsibility.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:43pm
@optimist ICC has declared him as free to play any form of cricket and obviously there is restriction on him from the court of law. Either you are stupid or too clever. Mr Shaharyar unlike mr Srinivasan is not involved in any corruption.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:48pm
PCB should address the concerns players have however, individual players have no right to just outright boycott a camp organized by the PCB. Whatever discussions that need to happen should occur in the back room and not in front of the national media. PCB has the right to penalize players for violating players code of conduct.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:51pm
They came in the morning. They knew that Amir was in the selection. Why did they came to practice if they wanted to take the stance. May be they were not able to play Amir's bowling in the practice and decided to take the stance. We all know Hafeez wasn't even able to touch Amir's bowls.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:54pm
Why all this fuss when Amar has already completed his punishment. If Hafeez and Azhar Ali are so much concerned about the moral integrity then why did they play under Waqar Yunus Mushtaq Ahmed? These two have also been involved in fixing in the past. This show how selfish these players are. They have respect for the country and their employers, the PCB. This is an issue of ego than any thing else.
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Dec 24, 2015 10:59pm
Amir has travelled from an impressionable age in the midst of dishonest peers to maturity with proper guidance by mentors to distinguish between what is ethical and acceptable and what is definitely not.
The actions of Azhar and Hafeez demonstrates immaturity and lack of judgement. They both reflect double standards after having played with Akmal brothers when the elder Akmal was notoriously tainted. I think they are the ones with a character flaw.
While Amir readily accepted the wrong doing, paid a price, got psychological treatment in ethics and has marched on to maturity, these two need to be inducted into a clinic and learn that you cannot be selective about playing and partying with
one set of alleged match fixers and trashing a phenomenal and gifted player like Amir who had the courage to admit that he was wrong and readily accepted help in being both - a better human being and a gifted fast bowler.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:00pm
I can imagine Pakistan team's dressing room environment with Amir in the team. The morale booster will not become morale destroyer.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:03pm
Why is Hafeez and Misbah in the team, furthermore originally Azhar Ali was not considered fit for one day format, so why has he been appointed as captain. There is no need for all this extra baggage in Pakistan cricket team, there is abundant talent available to replace these lame ducks.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:04pm
Amazed to see the support for this tarnished character from my fellow countrymen. I haven't observed humbleness or humility in Amir's demeanor since his return but more anger instead. His spat with Faisal Iqbal in a domestic match for which he was fined and then the way he celebrated Misbah's dismissal recently in BPL only tells you about his state of mind where he strongly believes that people wronged him, something which should've been the other way round.
People who support him are mostly the same commentators who a week ago were of the view that we as a nation, haven't learned anything out of the Peshawar APS school attack. Should call it an irony or plain double standards???
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Dec 24, 2015 11:07pm
Amir has paid for what he did now time move on. Hafeez, Azhar and Misbah should retire if they can help there teammates come back.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:08pm
Amir wont be given visa to New Zealand and even India may India deny visa. So what is the point PCB is trying to prove?
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Dec 24, 2015 11:12pm
Why on earth we kept on forgetting the humiliation which Amir brought to Pakistan and still there are people who wants to see him in action. I guess anyone who is supporting his return to international cricket doesn't have any sense of self respect.....
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Dec 24, 2015 11:16pm
Amir did a crime at the age of 17 or 18 and received the punishment which was quite a harsher one and then served his punishment. Why some people want to punish him for his whole life? PCB should not be blackmailed by the players and should take severe disciplinary action on such players who are playing this game. No player would have dared to resort to such activities if PCB had taken severe disciplinary action against the players who refused to play under the captaincy of Javed Miandad.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:27pm
You never leave your teammates regardless of what they've done. Amir made a mistake and he faced the price, it's time to accept him
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Dec 24, 2015 11:29pm
Amir has served his punishment - but Hafeez and Azhar are objecting this on the grounds that Amir bowled deliberate no-balls and was caught trying to line his own pockets.
Whilst there may be stories on Akmal, he has never been found guilty. Maybe therein lies the problem that certain people got away with it.
Each time we had a whistleblower like Rashid Latif, Basit Ali or Atta Ur Rehman, the PCB and authorities failed to deal with the problem.
Maybe, once and for all this argument can be put to bed.
Either you ban Azhar and Hafeez and send the message that cheating is acceptable, unless you get caught.
Or you ban Amir, and send the message that we will have zero tolerance to cheating.
The compromise would be to be allow Amir back, and say that from now we will not tolerate this any longer.
However, once the precedent is set, it becomes impossible to change it.
The PCB are really caught between a rock and a hard place here.
Good luck sorting it out.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:30pm
Amir was just 17 or 18 when he did this crime and he deserves one chance. Hafeez and Azhar are playing politics and they don't want him to become star. Hafeez can't run between the wickets and Azhar is a failed captain. They both don't deserve place in national team and they are showing that how patriotic they are. If you guys are really patriots they you should drop yourself from team instead of becoming liability.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:44pm
PCB should say goodbye to them. We don't need such players who stand against board decisions.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:50pm
Choice is very clear.if Pcb wants to
Retain match winners or just whiners who play for themselves and not for the team. None of these batsmen are Inzimam or Javidmiandad caliber that we should put some wieght on thier threats. Amir can single handedly win u a match any given day any given conditions ...Forget disciplinary action these people needed to be kicked out. We all know Hafeez is eyeing for full-time captaincy for next World Cup and he is already created his own grouping.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:50pm
PCB should follow its procedures, rules and guidelines and should not let any individual to dictate his/her policy on any issue.
If the selection of Amir is valid as per PCB rules then select him otherwise don't. Similarly, PCB should deal with the duo (Hafeez and Azhar) accordingly.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:52pm
@Abu Hamza wonderful advice - how many bowlers you and PCB found so far from last 5 years after his absense? Zero to None!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dec 24, 2015 11:57pm
If Amir is legally allowed to play international cricket then it is illegal to oppose
Amir's inclusion in the team. Azhar and Hafiz should not be emotional and should try
to accommodate Amir.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:58pm
Amir may have served his (term of) punishment but he will remain tainted forever.
Amir should be allowed to play cricket (locally) but not at the international and other professional levels. There may be many other players, both national and international who may not like to play with him, and the crowds (anywhere) may not be forgiving, not yet. This could be a source of embarrassment to the PCB and the country. For it, he alone will remain responsible, and he should understand it well.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:00am
This is not Azhar or Hafeez's team, it is PCB who runs the show...
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Dec 25, 2015 12:03am
I stand with Azher & Hafeez. M Amir has damaged Pakistan's name - Stay away Amir
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Dec 25, 2015 12:19am
if pietersen can be excluded on grounds of creating dissension within team then amir can also be excluded. at present 3 players oppose his incluson and if 2 or 3 more players oppose his return then its a problem. amir is not a player who can alone win matches. other players are also necessary in the team. pakistan team worked a lot to recover from spot fixing scandal and i fear it will be undone. secondly amir may not get visas for many countries. i mainly blame pcb for this fiasco. they should have taken players into confidence.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:34am
@Malkoo
And now Hafeez and Azhar are damaging Pakistan's name but claiming to be bigger than PCB..
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Dec 25, 2015 12:37am
With the same logic, Hafeez and Azhar shouldn't play cricket with many of their counterparts. Just because their "counterparts" are not caught that doesn't mean they are innocent. Take Kamran Akmal for example. How many of us believe he is innocent?
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Dec 25, 2015 12:40am
Hafiz and azar are nowhere near as talented as amir
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Dec 25, 2015 12:46am
Majority of comments here in favour of amir's inclusion is an indication of our national tolerance to corruption and treason. So next time people, think twice before bashing zardari and nawaz.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:46am
Is Pak Cricket Team personal property of any player? Time to down player's power and kick out those who want their favourite players or lobby playing inside team.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:48am
One stinking fish spoils the whole tank.Hafeez and azhar is right
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Dec 25, 2015 12:55am
Hafeez is an honest guy!!. Ask Sarfaraz Nawaz how Hafeez has falsified his age. This is the same guy who recently lied to the world that he has refused to play in BPL with Amir, while the fact was that Hafeez at that time was not even offered a job in BPL.
This is the guy who has been twice banned for chucking !!Twice failed the test and I think most of his wickets were fake and I feel sorry for the batsmen who lost their wickets against his bowling
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Dec 25, 2015 12:57am
I think Misbah is out of line too. He has no place to comment on management stuff. He has no responsibility to discuss the management stuff. Let the management handle the managerial stuff and keep your comments limited to your living room. This is the kind of unruly stuff gets us in trouble all the time. As long as Misbah is a player he should limit his comments and focus on his performance and try not to a ball gazer.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:04am
Mishab is right. There is a possibility that whenever Amir enter the stadium major crowd may start chanting cheater-cheater and nobody will like it. Please be prepared for such possibility fans as it will show such tag on Pakistani team.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:05am
Misbah, Azhar and Hafeez ..they are all absolutely ridiculous. Amir has paid his dues, he was honest and admitted his mistake from Day 1 unlike others. I can look at his eyes and see aflame desire of paying back to his Country. There are other players like Herschelle Gibbs, Marlon samuels, etc., who've came back to their respective sides and ware accepted well. My question to Hafeez, Misbah and Azhar if you so concern on country's pride as a Citizen can you raise the same voice against the corrupted politicians and bureaucrats? Did anyone admitted their faults? No… Btw I think Hafeez and Misbah are over the hill, it’s time to say bye bye to them also take this Azhar guy with you as well...
I'm echoing this nation's voice of welcoming you Back Mohammad Amir!!! I'm sure you will do excellent a lot is counting on you, Best of Luck !!!
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Dec 25, 2015 01:06am
Any mediocre player will be an upgrade over Azhar and Hafeez. Both are into their mid thirties. Their pedestrian careers should come to an end.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:07am
Its very dangerous game of PCB people. They without knowing whether Amir can get visa for New Zealand, Australia or even UAE, is trying to force Amir into team. What will happen if they leave out Hafiz and Azhar and later Amir is denied visa for New Zealand? Remember that Amir was denied visa by England. Most countries have strict visa policy they do not give visa to people who have committed crime, yet alone have been behind bar (jailed). Pakistan is not playing at home even their home matches are being played in UAE. It's very difficult that Amir will get visa for these countries.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:07am
The only person that will miss Hafeez after this retirement would be Dayle Steyn.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:13am
I would love to see some other country signs Amir and that team keeps beating Pakistani team for the next 10 years or till Amir retires. Grow up folks he has been punished. Let him redeem himself and make you proud .
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Dec 25, 2015 01:14am
Amir lost 5 years of his prime and he has served his punishment. He deserves 2nd chance. Mark Waugh, Shane Warne, Wasim Akram, Waraq Younis, Gibbs were all allowed to come back , why not Amir. It would have been great if Hafeez and Azhar would have said that they did not like what Amir did but take him under their wing and mentor him so that he or any other youngster won't commit these mistakes again. That's what seniors do. It still they don't feel comfortable, they can quit.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:14am
PCB and our cricketers must act responsibly. Such matters should never be made public and should be solved behind curtains. After all this is the job of the management to manage such tricky situations. Players are giving it a go in public and so is the grey haired PCB chair Shahryar. I expected better from Shahryar given that he has so much experience in management and still is giving interviews to BBC about the matter instead of fixing the issue behind doors. Please stop making fun of yourselves and Pakistan.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:19am
@Shami It doesn't really seem as if Misbah is opposed to Amir's return. He is hopeful that the PCB will be able to convince cricketers like Hafeez and Azhar about Amir's inclusion in the national squad. Failing that, the team would stand divided. He hopes that Amir will return but seems cautiously optimistic about what results that would produce.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:27am
I say good riddance.
Amir has served his punishment. And where corruption is concerned, it's part of daily life in Pakistan. At least Amir has been punished, where as a chaprasi to the pm get away unpunished.
If Azhar and Hafeez wants to go let them go
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Dec 25, 2015 01:28am
Misbah is a class act
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Dec 25, 2015 01:28am
Once fixer is always a fixer .
I say no to Aamir ,
I am glad and fully back Azhar and Hafeez .
Pcb needs to listen to its players and people .
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Dec 25, 2015 01:33am
Hafeez on the way out anyway.. Azhar should rethink. PCB approves, end of story.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:35am
This what u get in Pakistan u stand against wrong and get punished most people comparing the performance but it's the principle
everything glitters and mouth start watering
Amir brought shame to our land he should be punished for rest of his life.
U work in a shop and steal u get fired then u don't dare asking job back
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Dec 25, 2015 01:38am
Mr. Shaharyar,
Please cancel all contracts of Mr. Hafeez and Mr. Azhar immediately and stop their payments as per current contract, because players have already ignored the PCB decision, as well as all seniors players and commentators should be asked to look into their own characters before making any unpleasant remark against a person who has already completed his punishment terms as per rules/law of International Cricket Organization.
Please no more foul language or comments for any Pakistani!
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Dec 25, 2015 01:38am
@asad absolutely. I would take it one step further if they are so concerned about corruption, then what about not flying P.I.A, not accepting the rulers who are all corrupt in some way to some extent, the whole system is corrupt! Why not fight that doesn't that gave a bad name to the country worldwide, and the consequences for all of us, poverty, child labour, bad health facilities, poor or non existent education for the poor, etc.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:39am
Hafeez has been banned for one year for bowling with an illegal action. Should then Hafiz be allowed to play cricket, after all he practiced something that was illegal? Everyone deserves a second chance just like Hafiz will be allowed to bowl again after one year.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:40am
Lets keep it simple: Pakistan team minus Hafeez and Azhar= Success guaranteed!!
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Dec 25, 2015 01:43am
@Malkoo: Well, then give him a chance to earn that respect back. You still keep watching cricket even though there has been so much corruption at every level, have you abandoned cricket? Aren't you keep giving it (cricket) chance after chance to clean itself up? Then why not Amir?
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Dec 25, 2015 01:51am
Why are we so adamant to set example of bad behavior only? Why not for a good behavior, why not set an example that if you stay on the right path the society accepts you and you earn much more than the money. Make a positive example of Amir as oppose to a negative one.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:52am
So Hafeez and Azhar are bigger than the team now? That has been the problem with the Pakistan cricket and it must be stopped.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:55am
I am kind of shocked. Who is calling the shots? I thought players work for PCB. If that is the case the contracted players must respect their employer and selectors. How can they dissent? Both Hafeez and Azhar must be suspended and disciplined immediately before this matter goes out of hand.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:56am
Gibbs,Samuels,Warns,Mark Waugh etc etc successfully played cricket after being involved in cheating of one form or the other and many others ran scott free after their board secretly helped them to escape punishment for e.g. Dhoni and Raina. Then why a boy who made a mistake and admitted it and has always been repentant can not play again even after paying a huge price(I mean 5 years was a hefty fine for a 17 year old,isn't it?) ???
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Dec 25, 2015 02:00am
In stead of voicing his opinion in the news Mr. Shaharyar Khan must announce disciplinary action against both dissenters and drop Hafeez and Azhar without any further argument or discussion.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:04am
@Hassaan the best way to teach others will be to let Aamir play only domestic and any leagues but never allow him to play at international level despite his hyped ability
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Dec 25, 2015 02:05am
Hafeez and Azhar can take a principle stand and not play but have no right to stop Amir from playing especially when he has paid his dues
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Dec 25, 2015 02:06am
@Reality in a country with 180 millions only amir is left to win you WC, which is 11 players team.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:09am
@spock
I had the same thoughts. We think alike.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:10am
Everone deserves another chance in life. This is not a league or a country of Saints.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:11am
Why do we have to make everything so difficult. move on. he served his punishment. Focus on cricket. Plus Amir is better than the other two anyways.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:11am
Ar least they will be able to focus on their running till they do not decide to play.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:13am
@pervez yes, they even don't know to fix matches.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:13am
Be courageous and take stern action , ban them for 3 years and after that, if they are found fit let them play.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:13am
With just one decision of including Amir in the team PCB can deliver 3 master strokes at one go; getting rid of 2 extremely pathetic and talentless cricketers forever and giving the world's best fast bowler to the team.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:14am
@Pakistani democrat
what about our prime minister and former president Zardari werent they a bigger embarrassment. Amir issue is only in sports look at what these goons have done to majority of peoples lives in Pakistan. Simply screwd it. Give a break and lets this guy play.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:30am
Amir is a wonderful player but please do not forget that he is tainted as he sold the country to make few dollars. I totally support Azhar and Hafeez’s stand on Amir’s possible inclusion to national side.
Let me remind the people who are supporting him with open hearts that he denied any wrong doing after committing the crime. He appeared for hearing many times and at each occasion he denied the spot fixing allegation. He apologized only after he was found guilty so he had tried everything to cover up his wrongful act. Each time he denied the crime he committed, he was breaking the trust of millions of Pakistanis and defaming our great country.
I am all for forgiveness as I had also made mistakes in life but there should be zero tolerance when it comes to interest of our country.
Shame on Shaharyar to talk about punishing other senior players
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Dec 25, 2015 02:32am
Hafeez and Azhar after this episode of mutiny cannot be expected to give their 100% when playing alongside Amir. They could wilfully drop catches and indulge in misfielding. They are no longer trustworthy. Get rid of them, drop them from the team for good. As for Misbah, someone needs to educate the man as to how he should respond to questions from the media. If the question is about Amir's past then Misbah should tell the media that its all done and dusted with and that in Misbah's opinion Amir is a better person now. As for Amir's acceptance by the cricket fraternity, wait till he starts smashing them wickets, the lad is pumped up and more than eager to prove his spot in his team. Applauses will come thick and fast. He could turn out to be an inspiration for the Pakistani Team. He deserves equal chance!
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Dec 25, 2015 02:41am
Yes, certainly they deserve to be disciplined and Azhar must not remain the captain now. Being a Captain, it is his duty to keep the team united, which he is not going to do honestly with the state of his mind about Amir.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:51am
This called Holier than thou attitude. They both should be dropped.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:59am
Best time for Hafeez to join PML-N ??
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Dec 25, 2015 03:01am
They should be dropped unceremoniously we need to give new talent a chance. Azhar, unfortunately, is not captain material. And Hafeez will not be missed.
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Dec 25, 2015 03:13am
@Hassaan! Do you really know what Amir has done for your country? do you have any idea what is a 'mistake means' when it comes to Nations Respect?. Amir has harmed the country's respect. He has played with the emotions of millions and brought the country most disrespectful act. He was punished in the UK and people in Pakistan are more than willing to welcome him. What a pity!
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Dec 25, 2015 03:21am
@Shahid! so true!
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Dec 25, 2015 03:35am
Just drop them, they will be straight after that.
Even Kabir Khan, and Waqar Younis shall be given shut up call.
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Dec 25, 2015 03:36am
@Pradeep
Valid point - but allegations can be made about everybody.
Someone could make allegations about you and say you are a gangster/murderer, or they could say that I am a drug dealer and so on.
However, until Kamran Akmal is proven guilty, he MUST be treated as being innocent.
I live in the UK and that's the principle behind UK law; namely, 'you are innocent until proven guilty'.
I certainly wouldn't want to have a person in my team that was taking corrupt payments from bookies and deliberately under-performing.
I buy the argument that Amir was young and was forced into this by Salman - but all that argument effectively does is say "let's not give a young cricketer a chance to play international cricket, because they could be corrupted".
The mantra of Pakistan cricket has ALWAYS been 'if you are good enough, you are old enough'.
This argument is not about talent; it is about principle.
The tricky issue is how do we clean cricket up if we keep giving 2nd, 3rd chances?
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Dec 25, 2015 03:38am
Amir is match winner and we need him in the team. Like Azher and Hafeez, we can have many in Pakistan. We need world class bowler like Amir. Look at his wickets taking capability, Azher and Haffez even can't play him.
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Dec 25, 2015 03:44am
Misbah Sahib PCB or the management will not face any challenge by the induction of Amir in the squad,so please don't say like this.
Very simple for the PCB to axe or drop those who interfere with the matter.
No one is Inzimam,Miandad,Imran,Wasim,Waqar etc. in the team, all are average players. Non consistent performers.
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Dec 25, 2015 03:47am
first time PCB Chairman looks like a man of conviction.
in fact both ( Azhar and Hafeez ) should be facing a disciplinary action by now.... as its PCB's decision to include him in the team in best interest of our low-performing cricket team. Amir should be included with immediate effect. Amir had served his sentence now he is free to represent us.
regarding the nature of crime, he had infinitely seek forgiveness for his shameful act.. A+H and Ramiz are of the opinion he disgraced the country by accepting money.... fair enough about their mindset but they cannot dictate it.
Amir is a rare talent ... he should be given a chance without much useless fuss and unnecessary rants by irrelevant people ...
If we as a society were too purist and cleaner then we should have certainly not let him play ...... Ramiz himself played with 1o match fixers in one match. we all know them. Hafeez is so clean why he played in Bangladesh leagues which was altogether banned due corruption ?.
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Dec 25, 2015 03:49am
The pcb should sit down with Amir and all the senior players and let every one have an informal discussions, clear the air , answer each other concerns, address those concerns and then move on.
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Dec 25, 2015 03:51am
Misbah Sb could you please stop?
Life is full of challenges,no matter how hard they are,that person must have guts to deal with any challenge.
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Dec 25, 2015 03:53am
The PCB should not waste time to talk with Hafeez,Misbah,and Azhar.
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Dec 25, 2015 04:02am
Amir was exceptional bowler. The country is more important than anybody. Hafeez,Please can you explain that your bowling action was also illegal. You are also a cheater.
Hafeez and Azhar, please show me your income tax return and how much duty you both paid on the goods you brought from overseas.
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Dec 25, 2015 04:04am
Only Amir and Asif should be given second chance. So call ed educated Salman ruined their's career. If captain is corrupted how can you stop newbies.
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Dec 25, 2015 04:20am
Drop both useless players.
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Dec 25, 2015 04:24am
@Najaf
right
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Dec 25, 2015 04:39am
Pls don't say can, say would.
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Dec 25, 2015 04:49am
Drop both Azher and hafeez. Amir can take some quick wickets so we don't need hafeez 30s or Azhers 20s
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Dec 25, 2015 05:03am
@khan -- USA really? You are being sarcastic right? Aamir payed his dues. He has a right to come back. A country that breeds croup leaders and never get punished, you want to talk about fairness? I can't remember the last time Azhar and Hafeez won us a match.... if Hafeez had any decency, he wouldn't have havre retired, he is useless with the bat but then again out players don't know when they turn from an asset to a liability. They are creating this drama because they know their place in the team is at jeopardy.
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Dec 25, 2015 05:46am
Guys! I feel he should not be allowed to play since the mistake he committed was not limited to an indiscipline behavior but it was a clear case of cheating with your country. The argument which is going around in his defense that he was quite young that time, for me it doesn't make any sense as he was old enough to understand that if his asked to bowl no balls by his captain then it clearly means that it is wrong and not acceptable in any form of cricket at any level and cannot be called as a match strategy by any stretch of imagination. Everyone included me would have rallied around him if he had walked up to a board member or even to his coach at that time to inform them about the wrongdoings however he chosen to stay quiet and moved on…
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Dec 25, 2015 05:53am
Both are terrible in batting and hafeez can not bowl no more so there is no need for them in team.
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Dec 25, 2015 05:54am
his dictatorial style is offensive.
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Dec 25, 2015 05:56am
@a patriot - totally agree. Their conduct besides reflecting sheer indiscipline smacks of a misfounded selfrighteousness, which should have no room in the team.
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Dec 25, 2015 05:56am
If Shaheryar is "management", it's incumbent on him to bring everyone on board first. Not just fire salvos in the press.
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Dec 25, 2015 05:58am
This shows the immature mental level of Hafeez n Azhar. Why they both are playing under waqar n mushy.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:04am
Between talent and integrity, I think Integrity is more important. Someone who has betrayed his country for the sake of money, should not be allowed to represent the country again. Period.
I think we need to draw a line and come out of "sub chalta hai policy .... "
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Dec 25, 2015 06:07am
Yes, please take action against them.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:16am
They should be disciplined and dropped from team. Who among your heroes invented ball tempering, spot fixing and blackmailing the team team management? You all know. The team should support the poor guy in and out of field. He paid his dues to society and be allowed to live.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:22am
Amir has served the punishment and now it is time to bring him and only Board can make final decision(s), not player(s).
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Dec 25, 2015 06:29am
Remember Icc rules did not allow Amir lesser punishment than a 5 year ban. If there was a lesser punishment he would have been given. Even ICC stated at that time. At 18 and under a corrupt captain he was vulnerable.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:30am
No Australian player objected when Shane Warne rejoined the team after serving one year ban. People only remember that he is one ofthe best spin bowler in the history. If Azhar and Amir play for Pakistan then Azhar should not Captain. He will show his personal grudge against Amir while handling him as captain.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:37am
Pakistan is full of dirty politics and cricket is not the exception.
I am disappointed the way Hafeez and Azhar are acting. What non sense Misbah is saying.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:39am
Amir was penalized for breaking a UK law and a ICC rule, he has never been punished for tarnishing the reputation of Pakistan causing immeasurable embarrassment to Pak fans. A decision to include him in the team would be immoral and unethical.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:40am
Solution is very simple and straight forward - SHOW the door to both and any other player irrespective of his position who doesn't respect the bold and fair decision taken by PCB.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:41am
They are making Pakistan cricket a laughing stock.
All players who go against PCB policies and actions for Amir must be dropped from the team.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:43am
As senior players it's their RESPONSIBILITY to give him guidance and support. They should be a team rather criticize him for the mistake he has already paid for. Even our religion teaches us to FORGIVE, and these two guys are taking it too personally. If the PCB and ICC has allowed him to play ,then his team members should be able to as well!! He was banned for 5 years that's enough of a punishment! This is cricket not politics, lets play!
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Dec 25, 2015 06:46am
Just sack both of them till they are brought to there real senses.Amir is going to be in playing XI in all 3 format it is plain and simple.No Amir no match for Pakistan.He is the only hope of Pakistan flagging fortune in T20 and ODI.He is too good for any format because none of pace bowler is even close to him.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:47am
@spock Give me break Pakistan at Number 08 in ODI and Number 06 in T20 is because of these two honest players who are eye sore to fan in Shorter format.Both need a break as at this rate we will not be eligible to play ODI and T20.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:48am
@MD Both are liability in ODI and T20.So both should get lost.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:49am
@Pakistani democrat That way Pakistan at Number 08 in ODI and No.6 in T20 cannot have further humiliation from our below par ODI and T20 team.Sure they need a break from cricket.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:52am
Can Hafeez who failed 4 times in ODI along with Azhar Ali explain to fans why he should be in Team XI after making Pakistan lose ODI and T20 series against England? Did they not cheat Pakistan fans by playing in National team and under performing in all ODI and T20 matches?
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Dec 25, 2015 06:54am
@Abu Hamza He has fulfilled his punishment by not able to play for five years and has expressed remorse for his actions.Both of these batsmen especially Hafeez cannot score against any good team.Drop the Professor as well as Azhar.The Professor's tenure is over.
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Dec 25, 2015 07:03am
@pervez
May Be. But they are Honest ,Patriotic, Men of honor and dignity,
Brought back the pride and glory to the nation ,which was sold by
tainted trio.
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Dec 25, 2015 07:08am
@Pakistani
Yes they can be dropped due bad form. But not for selling country's name
Innocent Pakistani is so much habitual of corruption ,that it does not bother them any more.
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Dec 25, 2015 07:29am
Amir is back and here to stay. He has paid for his mistake and now he will prove his worth and within months he will become the best bowler in the world inshallah. Hafeez and Azhar can go
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Dec 25, 2015 08:19am
Misbah announce retirement and rest ,this is your time to go.Many people are available to answer questions on Amir,ok,no need to create Amy panic in this regard.
I request Hafeez,Azhar,and all others who are against Amir,stop non sense and narrow-mindedness.
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Dec 25, 2015 08:21am
Each player should have been warned at the time of selection anyone making fuss over Mohammad Amir would be sent packing. This was not done and we have a mess at our hands. Pakistanis have a reputation for showing indiscipline and they have done it again thru Hafeez and Azhar
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Dec 25, 2015 08:23am
I rmbr once Hafeez was declared run out because he was running right in the middle of the pitch when fielder was throwing the ball at the wicket, trying to block the fielder's line of sight. The ball hit him in the back and he was declared out by the umpire.
Where was his morality then!! Did not his this action brought defame to the Pakistani side!! What a hypocrite !
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Dec 25, 2015 08:29am
hafeez is a burden as he can't face pace and swing and is banned from bowling. Azhar is a misfit outside of test cricket. He is neither a T20 or an ODI batsman.
I say let them sit out. Drop their contracts PCB.
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Dec 25, 2015 08:44am
I think they both should be penalized for disregarding the Board decisions, they wanted to create there on state inside board. They are not decision makers they are employee of PCB, it is decision of PCB to allow best fitted player or not.
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Dec 25, 2015 08:45am
@khalis khan You are right they both are not eligible to be concerned as player any more.
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Dec 25, 2015 08:53am
PCB should have brought all senior players on a confidential meeting and discussed this. They should all hear it once and for all from Aamir that even a minor discipline offense from him will lead to a life ban. When other players know that he is walking a thin line and "not getting a special treatment" they will understand. Also PCB can write a statement that Amir would not be eligible for a contract for next 3 years and the captain will write a separate disciplinary report on him after each match. But he does not deserve getting a new verdict from each person in Pakistan after serving his punishment already .
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Dec 25, 2015 08:59am
I think Legally a convicted person cannot be part of Pakistan National Cricket Team, this is also a government job.
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Dec 25, 2015 09:17am
@muneer then why Waqar and Mushtaq coaching pak cricket team when they were also legally fined...
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Dec 25, 2015 09:34am
This statement by Shehryar is unique. Two law abiding players are being threatened to protect a convicted crook who let this nation down and was indicted and punished and served his imprisonment in a foreign land. What a shame!!!
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Dec 25, 2015 09:39am
Pakistan team is already facing financial crises and no team wants to come to our country to play cricket and here we playing dirty politics again. Pakistan cricket is already in so much trouble and now team players are making the ego issues and respect issues. Ahmed Shezad, Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi, Hafeez, Younus, Misbah and Ali they all have the attitude issues and they all should be fired from there contract. We have enough talent in our country waiting to take there places let them go and close the chapter player comes and go. PCB needs to get the new team ready ASAP and get rid of this dirty players out of the team.
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Dec 25, 2015 09:41am
@Adnan What a nonsense Amir was Man of the Series for Pakistan in that series while other below performers Azhar Ali was out for 10 & 12 and rest team were buried in ground in England.
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Dec 25, 2015 09:41am
I'm not Pakistani. I would request Pakistan Cricket Board "PLEASE BRING BACK AAMIR" and Save Pakistan cricket. Aamir will be tonic for pak. Fire useless Azhar and Hafiz
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Dec 25, 2015 09:47am
@Pakistan How did he let country down if Amir was Man of Series in England in last series he played while Azhar Ali was out for 10 and 12? So who let the country down?
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Dec 25, 2015 09:55am
PCB in the past has no tolerance policy against cricketers who have shown dissent. Why not this time. Hafeez and Azhar should have discussed this behind doors and try to sort this out with PCB, rather making fun of Pakistan cricket again. Sign this petition to support Amir and PCB
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/drop-hafeez-and-azhar-to-against-pcb-policy.html
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Dec 25, 2015 09:56am
Like it or not there is no point in selecting Amir when he can not get Visa for many cricket playing countries. PCB should first try to get visa for him before considering him for selection. Remember Amir committed crime as per British Law and was jailed and later denied visa for England. These countries have very strict visa law. Bringing him in camp before getting visa for Amir will only damage team unity.
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Dec 25, 2015 10:08am
I am sure Hafeez and Azhar have never sinned,so they have the right judge a sinner who is asking for redemption.
I think kindness and forgiveness is a virtue that they have not heard before.
I support the young kids desire for a second chance.
"Let the man play".
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Dec 25, 2015 10:16am
@Taqi Muhammad Heard name of Marlon Samuels? West Indian batsman? He has played recent series in Australia,New Zealand,England.Before applying your logic check past trend.
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Dec 25, 2015 10:20am
In a country where corruption is a norm, the comments of "APatriot" and "Ahmer" and alike make perfect sense. There is no concept of national honor, dignity, and self respect in Amir, don't equate players with honor to a scumbag.
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Dec 25, 2015 10:26am
But you will not ashamed of yourself? Pakistani don't want the clowns and you are supporting a person who were involved in a shameful act, how come you are not realizing that how Misbah will face the world?
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Dec 25, 2015 10:29am
Guys please interpret the report properly. Azhar and hafeez have opposed the move to reinstating M.Amir. Misbah has only commented on the problems Pakistan captain can face or any other member of the team and management and was requesting to take those concerned into confidence (or show them the way forward). That's not wrong on Misbah infact that's a sensible talk.
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Dec 25, 2015 10:29am
Great going shehryar. Now please access Hafeez and Azhar performances and drop both of them from team. Include Aamir within team
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Dec 25, 2015 10:31am
Drop both of Hafeez and Azhar. Azhar who should be dropped is running Pakistani tea,m as a Captain. Lost to Bangladesh, lost to england now what is he doing as a Captain still by the way? Drop him
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Dec 25, 2015 10:32am
Azhar as a captain has a poor track record. Make him simple player and make him play under Aamir as a captain. Both are threatened of Aamir's return.
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Dec 25, 2015 10:36am
@Omair Not sure how I should interpret your comment.Have you heard the name of Zulqarnain Haider wicket keeper batsman who had led to victory in some matches where he commented that some players in Pakistan deliberately under performed to make team loss.Were these players Hafeez and Azhar Ali? Big question for fans which is bothering me because these players were responsible for Pakistan Number 08 rank in ODI and Number 06 in T20.
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Dec 25, 2015 10:41am
@SARAH Marlon Samuels was never convicted by any court of law neither has was jailed but was banned by ICC. Besides on basis of Amir got convicted by court of law and jailed, he was denied visa by British Government.
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Dec 25, 2015 10:45am
I think the reason in something in addition to the corruption incident. Aamir has shown unwanted behavior during grade 2 matches and has done some rough talking. Highly unfortunate, but this issue has to be dealt with extreme caution. Fact is that Aamir is easily the best fast bowler in Pakistan right now with capabilities comparable to Wasim but he has to tone himself down. Will all these forgiving guys, will you forgive corrupt politicians after they serve their terms in prison, if it happens, and let them come back to full power?
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Dec 25, 2015 10:45am
@SARAH Please understand the difference between ICC and court of Law. No matter what ICC does has nothing to do with court of Law and visas are issued or denied on Police certificate and whether or not somebody has been convicted and jailed. They do not give or refuse visa on basis of ICC.
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Dec 25, 2015 10:53am
Both of them are a liability. This is the right time to say goodbye to them
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Dec 25, 2015 11:26am
PCB and our nation might want him to play but his recent UK visa got rejected. Moreover , New Zealand (where pakistan would play next) does not grant visa to ex convicts easily - not as forgiving as our nation i suppose.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/954523.html
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Dec 25, 2015 11:33am
@Abu Hamza
A man can't be punished twice for a one crime
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Dec 25, 2015 11:34am
@khan -- USA..., and how about when Justin Gatlin tested positive? Or Marion Jones? Or lance Armstrong?? Was USA the laughing stock because of the actions of its athletes? Come on be realistic. He has paid for his crime, 5 previous years. There is nothing that can stop him now, not emotional players, not immature players not illogical fans! Anyone who refuses to play with him or thinks he should not be allowed back needs psychiatric help.
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Dec 25, 2015 11:38am
Aamir has completed his punishment. Keep in mind he was just 18 years old at the time of crime so in my opinion he has a right to get a second chance being a prodigy of fast bowling. Hafeez and Azhar are right in raising concern but being a senior they should set the example and absolve him.
Hafeez should consider his batting abiliites before creating nuisance in the camp. Frankly speaking he has no place in the side. He can't bat outside sub continent.
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Dec 25, 2015 11:49am
@Sak Marlon Samuels has been playing there in NZ for West Indies.You meant law only for Pakistani?
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Dec 25, 2015 12:30pm
It;s too obvious , jealousy. Did anyone notice, nobody wanted Azhar, he was left like garbage, finally Lahore took him in 17th round while Amir , well do I need to say more.
Hafeez is on the way out. I say, drop Azhar and don't worry about Hafeez, he will self destruct. As far as Misbah, the countdown already started , it's just matter of months when he will be gone and good ridden for he is a negative and selfish individual. Never liked him and absolutely no respect for him.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:32pm
What they are forgetting is that a talented guy has waited FIVE long years to bowl again. He could have turned zero in these five years but his passion kept him going. All those opposing his return are badly confusing the terms national interest, personal egos and country pride. Get a good team, win a cup and be No 1 and that's a service to your country rather than lobbying and be a media maniac when the team is going through tough times.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:35pm
@Ismail No sir, Pete Rose was not allowed a pardon after 35 years....he was caught gambling and he was the number one hitter in history, no sir, Americans have morals and they have never forgiven him.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:37pm
There is a big difference between ICC and court. ICC has nothing to do with any country's Government. Amir, But and Asif were caught by police and were sentenced jail by British Judges who found them with taking illegal money and later ICC on basis of Judgment by the British court baned the trio. That was not the case with Samuels and American Athletes who were tested positive. That is why I am saying that PCB should first get visa for Amir or else there will be a big laugh from all around the world on Pakistan and it will further damage Pakistan team.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:38pm
No sir, Pete Rose was not allowed a pardon since 1989....he was caught gambling and he was the number one hitter in history, no sir, Americans have morals and they have never forgiven him.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14365554/pete-rose-remains-banned-major-league-baseball-per-commissioner-rob-manfred-decision
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Dec 25, 2015 12:41pm
Azhar is showing tantrums? Where he stands does he knows? Both of them are such a losers.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:44pm
Good chance to bring up the players with clean slate.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:45pm
Misbah Says “The reaction of cricket fans and the media when Amir comes back into the side is very uncertain and hard to predict.” Misbah did your read the comments under this article? Public Reaction is evident in Amir's favor.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:50pm
@Sarah look here kid for you man of the" series "is enough. But for others national pride and honour is supreme. So stop this infatuation.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:53pm
@Urooj Zaidi why don't you hire him and look after him for the rest of his life?
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Dec 25, 2015 12:56pm
Drop both of them ... discipline should be first thing that is tough to a sports man .... if everyone starts their own boycott or decisions ... than there is no need for PCB ... they have to must must agree with what decision PCB makes ....if they do not want to play cricket that is their choice resign from the job ....
Amir will give u two wickets in each match .... and Azhar and Hafeez will boil two eggs in most of the matches ....
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Dec 25, 2015 01:08pm
@AXH This three rubbish player played so many match with mediocre result,Hafeez good only against Minos against Aus,SA,NZ flop, asfar as Misbah when good batsman there like yousuf,Razak,Inz he couldn't find place ,till today did not score 100 against good team.
Azhar with parchi came from back door,.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:16pm
Majority of comments are in favour of Amir being included. Fact of the matter remains that mediocre and over the hill players like Azhar and Hafeez do not deserve selection.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:24pm
Make Shoaib Malik captain of ODI team and kick Azhar and Hafiz out.
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Dec 25, 2015 01:25pm
@Taqi Muhammad Really then why India Pak series needs respective Government approval?Give me break!
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Dec 25, 2015 01:35pm
@Javid Shirazi 14 wickets in 11 20/20 bpl matches is below mediocre. even Imran khan jr can do better. hafeez can win a match amir can not
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Dec 25, 2015 01:43pm
I am unable to think why some people are opposing of Amir return. Everybody have a right to live his life after completing his punishment of his crime. Amir is a world class bowler and has the ability to give many victories with his lethal bowling. He should be allowed to play again and should be given a chance to wash all the bad spots by his brilliant performance for Pakistan. I believe he has the ability to become the most wicket taking bowler in the world.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:11pm
Leave Hafeez and Ali out. Why they still play with akmal brothers, they not innocent.
only because they not caught.
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Dec 25, 2015 02:45pm
@Zafar Ahmed you are right.Misbah is past his cricketing days . Professor should retire as he can not bat against genuine pace and is finished as a bowler. As regards Azhar his contribution in batting is almost zero as well. It is best to look for their replacement
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Dec 25, 2015 02:52pm
@SARAH Its because Board comes under Government, Government does not come under Board
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Dec 25, 2015 02:57pm
It seems some one of elite class of the country is behind the scene, thats why chairman PCB talking action against Hafeez and Azher to save his job
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Dec 25, 2015 02:57pm
Azahr & Hafeez now must also raise the voice against Juatice Qayum Report.
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Dec 25, 2015 03:04pm
@Truth Sayer : when he was kid (in your words) he knows the power of Pound steling, what he will do when he is matured
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Dec 25, 2015 03:25pm
What the hell Misbah, you are not really that good. Be more open minded and humble for a change. I am sure you have done many wrongs in your life. Wouldn't you want God to forgive you? Then learn to forgive the others as well. That should actually be your best part of life.
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Dec 25, 2015 04:43pm
@spock - what do we do with their honesty and clean hearts if they cannot bring good results and good cricket for us. both are talented like Umar and Afridi, never perform in time required most, against good teams.
Hafeez, as predicted by Shoaib Akhtar, could not improve his skills to overcome his short comings about balls pitching on middle and off. recall Steyn's laughing on Hafeez.... such is his mindset. how can he issue such a statement at his own, indeed someone had injected this bizarre statement in his still mind... Azhar is just following the wave without knowing what he is talking about, as he was not sure about his spot in ODIs before out of nowhere he was made captain....
both are stagnated on certain things/ issues. its not for them but for PCB to decide whether or not Amir should play for Pakistan.. if they do so, then both suffer severe consequences for objecting Amir's inclusion in team. Lets go beyond this stupid issue and let Amir play without strain.
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Dec 25, 2015 04:48pm
they think they are bigger then the PCB both should be dropped from the PCB contract and not aloud to play any first class game anywhere in the country, stritck law should be imposed on them, these 2 looser don't deserve to be in the team their performance is not appreciated and they are the one who creates rift and grouping in the team they should be shown the door as a lesson for the rest
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Dec 25, 2015 05:54pm
Pakistan Cricket Board should ban Mohammad Hafeez and Azhar Ali for lifetime.
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Dec 25, 2015 06:11pm
drop hafeez and azhar, bring back amir!
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Dec 25, 2015 06:18pm
leave all behind look future..that it say..take him
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Dec 25, 2015 07:16pm
He was young and made a mistake... agreed, He served his sentence....agreed, he should be forgiven...agreed, but when people start demanding that he should play for Pakistan ..thats not agreed, Playing for Pakistan is not his right, If a bank cashier commits misappropriation and get caught he is not given the post of cashier after serving his sentence, so my dear countrymen don't support a guy who made u laughing stock for whole world..
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Dec 25, 2015 07:41pm
@Amin Syed - London tell me about your stay in UK. Have you done anything illegal so far. Have you done anything prohibited so far. Have you made any mistake so far. I am sure you did. We all make mistakes. Forgiveness is the only way. That's Hypocrisy at its best.
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Dec 25, 2015 08:24pm
@Abu Hamza Yeh!!! Talented like Hafeez who never failed most of his life at challenging situations/conditions. Only performs on straight pitches
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Dec 25, 2015 08:28pm
Amir has served his term and should be free to do any thing. Murderers are forgiven once they have served their term. Amir has endured the harshest punishment meted to anyone in the ICC playing countries. ICC should release a statement in his favour to help his participation in all ICC playing countries.
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Dec 25, 2015 08:43pm
I felt sad when this budding talent was nipped in the bud. He was just 19 when he made this mistake. It is unfair to hold that against him when he is attempting to make a comeback. He is just 23 and is a great talent. Just let him play for his country again guys.
Hafeez and Azhar Ali should be dropped for going against Board and going public in this matter.
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Dec 25, 2015 09:13pm
Drop hafeez this will become warning for azhar
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Dec 25, 2015 09:24pm
@frank
Pieterson exclusion does not set any precedent of right and wrong. Amir has gone through his ban, he has very special talent and needs to come back, he needs his team mate backing. As for team mates opposing his return, they need to put personal grievances on the back burner and think Pakistan first. Very disappointing, Hafeez can leave any day, Azhar needs to re-think and Misbah needs to show more maturity.
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Dec 25, 2015 09:27pm
@Pakistani democrat you do not want to bring players who bring humiliation but your country brings back politicians who bring humiliation and disgrace to even higher positions.....Amir was just a kid who probably saw money for the first time, nothing shows Pakistan being democratic
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Dec 25, 2015 09:28pm
Amir stay strong and be more forgiving to the people opposing your come back. You have paid for your mis-deed and now it is time to show good deeds, by representing Pakistan. As for the opposing duo, leave politics behind and be more accepting of the fact that Amir had paid for his misdeed. Would you act the same way if you were on the receiving end, grow up and accept him as an evolving and improving member of society.
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Dec 25, 2015 10:27pm
@Najaf
Hafiz was bowled out by Amir in BPL....
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Dec 26, 2015 12:00am
PCB should take serious action against them both. They have made a total mockery of PCB chairman's comments on Amir situation the day before. They are the ones bringing bad name to Pakistan cricket.
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Dec 26, 2015 04:03am
When one is already punished for his/her actions, he/she should be forgiven and given a second chance. The fact is one is given a chance based on his/her ability and nothing to do with favoritism. About time people grow up, as they say, to err is human and to forgive divine. How we seek for own forgiveness/mercy from the Creator when we cannot forgive our own brethren.
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Dec 26, 2015 09:42am
Every citizen have to abide by the rules of law. If u are pcb contracted Player, you have to abide by their decision or u have to suffer. In case of Azhar and Hafeez this is not oviously honesty , it's sheer arrogance. When the crime was done by him he was a kid and then captain and his senior man provoked him in doing so. Further he has suffered enough for his punishment. As a muslim we are all the time in favour of forgiveness. Who the hell u two that can obstruct person to team when almost 99% cricket fans want him back.
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Dec 26, 2015 01:08pm
This is a wrong approach. Players who have abided by rules and conducted themselves with decency and honesty should be lauded by the country, not condemned and criticized
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Dec 26, 2015 09:58pm
The kid did the crime and the time and shouldn't be punished twice for the same crime. Let him play fellas. I believe this sort of righteous self-indignation is misplaced. If the kid is good enough, and he surely is, then let him play..
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Dec 27, 2015 12:38am
No excuse for Aamir, Pakistan is not short on talent. How can we let him done national colors?
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Dec 27, 2015 03:26am
@Zafar Ahmed, dear
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Dec 27, 2015 03:45am
Concern of Misbah, Azhar and Hafeez may be because of their patriotic sentiments that those who sell out the honor and reputation of their Country and institution do not deserve to be taken back to same institution. Because there are so many other sports institution which they may join for earning bread and butter. But in a Country where those who by looting and devouring the National resources by billions and billions during their each term of power been reaching to higher positions of the State through mandate of the people, again and again, Amir should be forgiven after completing the term of punishment.
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Dec 27, 2015 09:34am
@Abu Hamza
PCB must bring this cricket star back....he has the potential of taking Pak cricket to higher levels. Those who have a narrow immature minds should be sacked until they come to senses. They are determined to harm this future hero and should be dropped before they can create troubles for him. As a favour they could also be offered a free psychiatric counselling to cope with retirement.
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Dec 27, 2015 09:39am
@Hassaan
Their only problem is jealousy and if they are refusing to comply with PCB's decision they , particularly Hafeez who seems to be the main culprit in creating a gang against Amir, should be asked to leave. Pakistan cricket will be better of without these hypocrites.
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