Bangladesh fans vent anger at ICC against Taskin, Sunny bans
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DHAKA: Scores of Bangladeshi cricket fans took to the streets of Dhaka on Sunday to express their outrage hours after global cricket officials banned the country's top bowlers from competing in the World Twenty20 in India.
The demonstrators formed a human chain as they marched along a busy road in the capital, after the International Cricket Council suspended pacer Taskin Ahmed and Arafat Sunny on Saturday from bowling in international matches for illegal actions.
The bans came as a blow to Bangladesh's chances in the World Twenty20 after they lost to Pakistan by 55 runs in their opening match of the tournament.
“Shame on you ICC. Your action is illegal,” one banner read as young fans rallied against what they described as a “conspiracy” targeting Bangladesh.
“The ICC has been consistently trying to destroy the chances of small teams like Bangladesh to do better in the World Cup. The bans of Taskin Ahmed and Arafat Sunny are part of this conspiracy,” enraged cricket fan Sanjiban Sudip, 23, told AFP.
“This is nothing new. No players from India, Australia or England have been banned for suspect actions. In contrast, plenty of players from teams like Bangladesh were suspended,” he added.
The protesters burned a “symbolic effigy” of the ICC as they concluded their protest.
An AFP photographer at the scene said at least 100 people joined the hour-long protest at Dhaka's Shahbagh square.
Thousands of Bangladeshi fans also vented their frustration on social media after the bowlers failed assessment tests to clear the suspicion over their bowling, as the bans made front-page headlines across the cricket-crazy nation on Sunday.
Bangladesh face an uphill task to make the semi-finals of the World T20 for the first time after losing their opening match to Pakistan last week.
Their next game is against Australia in Bangalore on Monday while they must also face New Zealand and India in the group stages.
The ICC launched a crackdown against suspect actions in 2014, which resulted in several leading bowlers being suspended, including the world's former number one-ranked spinner Pakistan's Saeed Ajmal.
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Mar 20, 2016 06:59pm
Banning the players well into the world cup rather than before definitely needs some explaining to do.
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Mar 20, 2016 07:09pm
BCCB is trying to lift the ban on Taskin. Hope we will get a positive answer by today.
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Mar 20, 2016 07:14pm
well Arafat sunny action was not okay, however taskin ahmad looks fine. also I believe Jadeja, ashwin, bumrah should be tested as well. i am sure jadeja and bumrah have ilegal action.
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Mar 20, 2016 07:28pm
So they have called a bandh in their own country i.e. hurting their very own economy to protest against a international organization.
At least this would be personified if they had called a peaceful bandh in say Kolkata outside Eden Gardens. The protest would have been quelled but at least they would get an international coverage.
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Mar 20, 2016 07:32pm
Ohh! A setback for them definitely. Taskin is a good bowler. That said, I think Bangladeshis are quite good at protesting and blaming. Hope ICC follows the ethics.
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Mar 20, 2016 07:35pm
Where was ICC when the same very players have been playing for last 5 years. Same as Saeed Ajmal was suspended first after he had played some 200 matches. And why they don't scan Bumrah who is very obviously on the wrong side of the bowling arm laws.
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Mar 20, 2016 07:38pm
I dont agree with the conspiracy stuff, but what really stumps me is why are bowlers from india like ashwin and harbhajan not tested?
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Mar 20, 2016 07:44pm
@Shahid Can please tell me why Sohail Tanvir having similar action to Bumrah played so many matches , unorthodox action is not the problem , elbow rotation should not be more than 15 degree , which in Taskin and Sunny 's case were
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Mar 20, 2016 07:47pm
Bumrah hand is straight rotate full circle.
Taskin some balls look like through. Not all balls.
Jadeja some deliveries loks like malinga .i.e,half circle.i don't agree malinga bowling style but he is not banned.
No issue with Ravi aswin.
Australian,England bowlers bowls perfectly.
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Mar 20, 2016 07:55pm
@Harmony-1© it will set bad precedence to allow him bowl..even after knowing his action is illegal..
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Mar 20, 2016 07:59pm
ICC is no more credible ..People are realizing that all Cricket matches are fixed..It is really strange when two main bowlers are banned in world cup.. west indies is chasing 182 runs easily.. and Australia can't chase 142 .. England chases 230.. what is that..? have any one thought about it?
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Mar 20, 2016 08:01pm
ICC is no more credible ..People are realizing that all Cricket matches are fixed..It is really strange when two main bowlers are banned in world cup.. west indies is chasing 182 runs easily.. and Australia can't chase 142 .. England chases 230.. what is that..? have any one thought about it?
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Mar 20, 2016 08:05pm
Its unfortunate, for Bangladesh.
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Mar 20, 2016 08:06pm
@khan Then you must add up Mohammad Sami and Mohammad Amir my dear.
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Mar 20, 2016 08:10pm
Feel sad about such misplaced nationalism which finds faults with everything right.
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Mar 20, 2016 08:14pm
In past, the ICC had taken actions against many bowlers... Bangla bowlers are not an exception, Bangladesh is not above ICC Rules & Regulations......
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Mar 20, 2016 08:16pm
The reason why very less player from Big 3 get banned at international level is the cricket board keeps check on local players, for example BCCI banned 40 players at once at domestic level, they got the apparatus and infrastructure to check the action.
They got the labs that checks the suspended bowlers action for almost every country. However many financially tight boards like Bangaldesh and Pakistan cant afford those labs so bowlers go unnoticed and banned in International events.
Its not every single time a bowler bowl illegal delivery, but a few times and thats why they get caught after sometime. There was a reason Ashwin stopped bowling "doosra" cuz it require bending arm, which Ajmal did lifetime before being suspected.
Sorry to say this but whole world is not conspiring against Bangladesh or Pakistan, they got better work to do than to pull out conspiracies.
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Mar 20, 2016 08:21pm
unfortunate but all cricketing nations except india aus and eng need to stay one step ahead to be prepared for any set back.
Pakistan dropped from no2 icc ranking to no7/8 now since ajmal and hafeez are banned. india will keep on playing games under the banner of icc like banning other team bowlers and preparing un playable crazy spin wickets.
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Mar 20, 2016 08:35pm
@Truth Do you know cricket? Sometime Aus can't chase 100 runs, sometimes they chase 200+ also (in t20). That is the beauty of the cricket. Whay are you finding at any?
Cricket haters or if they don't understand it, they will speak like you only.
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Mar 20, 2016 08:41pm
@global citizen Harbhajan was tested twice in the past.....
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Mar 20, 2016 08:42pm
Did both players by any chance performed good against India? If the answer is yes, then it shouldn't be a surprise.
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Mar 20, 2016 08:45pm
@Amir We Bangladeshis are facing the same injustice, brother
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Mar 20, 2016 08:48pm
@Amir is every thing a conspiracy?? What about the fitness levels between India & Pakistan, Catching & Fielding, what about the running between wickets?? is everything a conspiracy?? Buddy stop complaining wake up & acknowledge the truth. Cricket has become a modern game with lot of technology gone are the days when full sleeved chuckers could escape claiming to be express pace
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Mar 20, 2016 08:59pm
How do they (ICC) figure out that the elbow extension of the bowling arm has exceeded the 15 degrees’ level ?
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Mar 20, 2016 08:59pm
Questionable bowling actions are a problem for sure. They are hard to detect by the untrained eye and require specialized equipment to prove. No wonder the public feels aggrieved, because they lack both of the above tools. This also provides an atmosphere for conspiracy theories.
The issue is akin to the judging problem in Olympic figure skating and gymnastics competitions that causes similar consternation among fans.
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Mar 20, 2016 09:03pm
ICC is going too far, will damage cricket in the long run. These two bowlers are not bowling for the first time, why ban them now why not earlier?
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Mar 20, 2016 09:14pm
They should have stood up in support of Pakistan when Saeed Ajmal was banned.
Now they are the victim of the same 15 degree rule. Ever since their entry into International Cricket BD Cricket Officials have been following Indian influenced ICC
rules.
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Mar 20, 2016 09:21pm
BD supporter never protested when Razzak,Gazi, Alamin even with Sunny illegal action but it was for Taskin who's action has no problem. He was suspended for bouncer while he didn't bowl any bouncer against Netherland. When they didn't find anything they told him to bowl 9 bouncer in 3 minutes. And also u need to look the timing of ban just beginning of the world cup. Do guys think it's fair to BD and Taskin? Be honest please.
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Mar 20, 2016 09:24pm
Why ICC only start banning players either before the WC on in the WC. ICC is the worst.
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Mar 20, 2016 09:43pm
@Nouman Ahmad Sunny didn't played against IND and Taskin could only manage 2 wickets in 2 matches which BD lost convincingly. But you know what, Taskin was nightmare for PAK batsmen in Asia cup. Look at the match figures and you'll know who benefits from his ban.
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Mar 20, 2016 10:01pm
we are with you but you people are too late,
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Mar 20, 2016 10:02pm
Now you know folks how it hurts when decisions are imposed in a biased manner. Why not any Indian , Australian or English bowler?
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Mar 20, 2016 10:08pm
It is not icc , it is bcci who did that.
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Mar 20, 2016 10:11pm
it is astonishing to know the fact that no indian bowler has been repsoted for suspected action till date . Harbajan when deliver dosra is specialy vulnerable
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Mar 20, 2016 10:20pm
@global citizen they already tested three times. Please keep yourself update.
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Mar 20, 2016 10:20pm
@towfique Honestly speaking it is totally
unfair to ban BD cricketers while the T-20
WC is in progress. BDCB has every right to
raise this question before ICC.
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Mar 20, 2016 10:40pm
@sri - When and where did I say they should be allowed to bowl?
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Mar 20, 2016 10:48pm
@towfique If there was suppose to be a ban, it should've been put before Pakistan game. Putting it before India will only adds fuel to already suspicious do about a of ICC. In case of Hafeez and Ajmal, also the ban wasn't put prior, but exactly right before India vs Pak World Cup game. I will call what's wrong, wrong, But I won't sympathize one bit with Bangladesh fans because they never stood with Pakistan when it was needed. It's their choice to be pro-India in ICC, so now they can fight their battle on their own.
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Mar 20, 2016 11:00pm
Sunny and Taskin, surely have illegal action. Watch their bowling from side angle you can clearly see thet r chucking. And those who talk about Bumrah and Jadeja here are out of their mind. Ashwin had a problem earlier with his action,but now he has corrected it and no one can say he is chucking. And y these Bongs feel they are being targeted? Look at the funny placards the protesters holding .One saying .we are tigers' :( . Grow up bangladesh!!
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Mar 20, 2016 11:07pm
@Abdulla Hussain Because Ireland referred these two Bangladeshi players now after their game on March 8th.They were testedat. ICC facility and based on results banned.
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Mar 20, 2016 11:12pm
@khan you have no evidence of jadeja and bumrah having incorrect action.. I think their elbows remain well within the limit
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Mar 20, 2016 11:19pm
my support is with Pakistan from now on. let green win
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Mar 20, 2016 11:20pm
@pure indian: it is not a conspiracy perhaps an open secret when you see bowlers like harbajan, bumrah and ashwin still bowling with controvercial actions and players from Pakistan bangladesh sri lanka and west indies getting banned. i think you also have not seen a wickets india prepared for test series against South africa and wt20 NZ and Pakistan game. what a shame if you want to win then play a proper game rather than playing silly games behind the curtains but this is typical indian mentality unfortunately.
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Mar 20, 2016 11:22pm
Does ICC care about such protests? It doesn't.
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Mar 20, 2016 11:25pm
@Truth cricket has become a fictitious game, and its players, highest earners in any country.
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Mar 20, 2016 11:42pm
@Truth yes I have thought about it and I see nothing wrong in it. Unpredictibilty is what make sport a thrill.
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Mar 20, 2016 11:46pm
What about Ashwin's bowling action? Is there any umpire who have the courage to ask at least for an examination? Many people asking question about his action in the social media.
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Mar 20, 2016 11:47pm
How come that front line bowlers for all the other teams than the ruling three ICC members are called up for wrongful arm actions. W. Indies, S. Africa, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and now Bangladesh have all been effected. New Zealand's turn is next.
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Mar 20, 2016 11:51pm
@Amir Ajmal was never a threat to India. Come out of this seige mentality. You should try to fix your domestic cricket.
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Mar 20, 2016 11:55pm
It's still the big three and remember the next two matches Bangladesh is playing against India and Australia
Don't you get it
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Mar 21, 2016 12:02am
The Assessment did not find anything illegal with Taskin's stock and yorker deliveries. With respect to the 9 bouncers he was asked to bowl, they found that 3 were bowled using an illegal bowling action. Taskin was asked to bowl the bouncers in quick succession during the Assessment (9 in 3 minutes!), something which he would not be doing in match situations, as in T20, a bowler can bowl only one bouncer an over. The report shows that only 3 of his 9 bouncers were bowled with an illegal action; these were the deliveries which were also the slowest. Before the Assessment, Taskin had traveled a lot and went through preparation for and playing 3 international matches in a short period of time; it's natural that he was suffering from fatigue, and his technique on the odd delivery fell away when asked to bowl 9 bouncers in quick succession. During the course of the BD-NETHERLANDS match, he did not bowl any bouncer. Not even one. So, he could not have been reported for bowling a bouncer.
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Mar 21, 2016 12:02am
First, Regulation 2.2.6 provides that (d)uring the Independent Assessment, the Player shall be required to replicate the specific bowling action for which he/she was reported. It appears that during the Independent Assessment, Taskin was asked to bowl 9 bouncers. Even accounting for the fact that the ICC Standard Analysis Protocols contained in Annexure I of the Regulations allow for Taskin to be asked to bowl, among others, a minimum of 6 bouncers,on a proper reading of Regulation 2.2.6, such bouncers cannot be taken into account in his assessment, as he has not been reported for bowling a bouncer. In this regard, to the extent there would appear to be a conflict between Regulation 2.2.6 and the Protocols, the Regulation will prevail, as the Protocols cannot override, and shall be regarded as supplemental to, the Regulations
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Mar 21, 2016 12:03am
Cricket is no more cricket...ICC wages in front of India, Australia, and England...
What will the other countries do God knows...
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Mar 21, 2016 12:10am
They should have been banned , before the world cup, or after. During the world cup is a not fair. on a country.
As there was talk before the world cup of these two players, having a suspect action.
The timing is bad for Bangladesh.
What if these two players had taken eight wickets against Pakistan in the first game ?
Would that have been fair on Pakistan ?
You have to ask the ICC, or is it BCCI.
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Mar 21, 2016 12:16am
india is the lion in the jungle of cricket. laws are meant for smaller teams. we are off limits. you can cry as much as you want, we cant be equals. now let the games begin.
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Mar 21, 2016 12:27am
@towfique By no stretch of imagination this BD team can be a champion team. There must be something wrong with his action thats why ICC banned him.
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Mar 21, 2016 12:28am
If u are not fast bowler and u just stand and bowl like spinner then I think u can do under arm over arm what ever u like...
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Mar 21, 2016 12:28am
@towfique yes, we think it's right. Cos you and me are no technical expert. Have you tested his bowling action with slow motion cameras? I haven't and so I can't comment.
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Mar 21, 2016 12:31am
@Abdulla Hussain hmm...I think Sunil Naraine, Saeed Ajmal were also pulled up after 4-5 yrs of international cricket...never saw WI or Pak fans cry against ICC or over zealously support chuckers though..really disappointing..
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Mar 21, 2016 12:35am
They should have been banned , before the world cup, or after. During the world cup is a not fair. on a country.
As there was talk before the world cup of these two players, having a suspect action.
The timing is bad for Bangladesh.
What if these two players had taken eight wickets against Pakistan in the first game ?
Would that have been fair on Pakistan
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Mar 21, 2016 12:54am
@global citizen Get your facts right before talking nonsense. Harbhajan singh was reported for suspect action and he was out for substantial time.
The reason why you dont see many players from India or Australia is bcoz the boards invest heavily at the domestic level to correct the action of bowlers in the initial stages itself. On the other hand, your board keeps searching for way to make money for its executives rather than spending on well being of cricket.
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Mar 21, 2016 01:59am
BD fans are always looking for excuses. Taskin has 9 T20I wickets and Arafat 12. They ween't going to win them world cup anyway
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Mar 21, 2016 02:05am
@Nouman Ahmad "Did both players by any chance performed good against India? If the answer is yes, then it shouldn't be a surprise."
This is what is known on the street as flawless logic. :-)
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Mar 21, 2016 02:06am
@indian It was a peaceful protest.. Nobody 'hurt' their own economy. The fact that you read the news in a leading pakistani newspaper shows that it got enough international coverage
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Mar 21, 2016 02:40am
@prince , Yah,they could do it well before if the players' action were not OK.Why they have taken this action in middle of a big tournament like T20 World Cup? This is the question.
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Mar 21, 2016 02:43am
Taskin and Arafat are good bowlers but not unplayable. Bangladeshi fans are acting like their bowlers are the only ones who ever got questioned. Johan Botha (South Africa); Marlon Samuels (West Indies); S. Senanayeke (Sri Lanka) all were questioned - they got their actions corrected and now are able to play again! The truth is bowlers like Taskin and Arafat played well but didn't help Bangladesh win asia cup. If they would have helped Bangladesh win the Asia cup or helped Bangladesh beat Pakistan during the ongoing World cup and then got banned, it would make sense for bangla fans to protest and block roads. Right now it makes no sense- if they are so talented, let them bowl honestly and get back in the team- simple as that!
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Mar 21, 2016 03:09am
Soon you will find bowlers from New Zealand and South Africa coming under
I.C.C. 's scrutiny. West Indies has already suffered at the hands of I.C.C.
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Mar 21, 2016 03:14am
Good move by icc
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Mar 21, 2016 03:25am
ICC should stop making rules which are cricket friendly rather they should make their rules Bangladeshi friendly.
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Mar 21, 2016 04:09am
Cricket bats are getting thicker and thicker but ball hasn't changed at all. And then they are getting tighter on bowling actions. Very unfair. They should put weight restriction on bats too. Unbelievable. ICC run by BCCI. There is a reason, Aswin wasn't playing in Australia. There is a a testing facility in Australia too
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Mar 21, 2016 04:55am
It is surprising to find so many people with no clue whatsoever of the bowling arm rules and still they feel their obligation to write a comment on the topic. Guys bowling with bent arm is not illegal. So Bumrah, Jadeja and many other international Bowlers do that. Its straightening of a bent arm in excess of 15 degrees that makes an action illegal. If you have followed the case of Ajmal and (in the past Harbajhan) both of them accepted that they were straightening their arms although unintentionally. Whereas Harbajhan was able to remove this error without remodeling his action Ajmal was not able to do so despite tremendous effort. It can happen to any bowler probably due to fatigue.
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Mar 21, 2016 04:55am
One thing that I will argue here with ICC is the 15 degree rule. Since this rule was introduced to allow natural Flexion of the albow (hence a small amount of straightening is allowed), this rule is inherently incorrect. Every person is born with his own biomechanics determined by his genes. Not all people have same natural flexion of albow and in some cases it can surely be more than 15 degrees. Best known example is Shoaib Akhtar (hyperflexion). PCB argued with ICC in 2006 and involved University of Western Australia to support their case and won their case. However since then ICC has established their own Biomechanics labs and they do not take into account third party reserach.
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Mar 21, 2016 05:09am
They need to protest against their board, did BCB not monitor them before sending them out ? I feel all boards need to invest in their own biometric tests so as to ensure these things don't happen
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Mar 21, 2016 05:19am
I am definitely not an authority on cricket and have only now started watching after a long gap..
But I was surprised at a few Sri Lankan bowlers it seemed like throwing the ball rather than bowling..
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Mar 21, 2016 05:45am
First of all many people commenting have no knowledge about the rules. Second thing BCCI found Atleast 30 players with illegal action in domestic tournament and gave them special coaching to solve their action so that they don't have to face problem further. BCCI have installed bowling action machine too as well as machines are held by private firms in Chennai.
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Mar 21, 2016 06:38am
@towfique Yes, we think ICC is scared that BD is going to win world cup and doing everything to stop you guys. Last I checked the umpires have been asked to report all their bowlers of action issue, any batsman scoring more than 30 should be called out. Also Bangladesh can only win against Pakistan, other teams they have to lose. When asked why ICC is doing this, an ICC official told us they want to make sure India wins all games and India does not like any other country playing cricket. India eventually wants to be only country playing cricket and want to win all matches without playing.
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Mar 21, 2016 08:02am
@Amir what about Sohail Tanvir , Malinga, if they were allowed to bowl why not Bumrah ?? his action is much better then them.
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Mar 21, 2016 08:02am
ICC is nothing more than an extension of IPL. They know that there are more than a billion paying paupers in India which they do want to upset, so right now what ever IPL or BCCI says is 'correct'. Wait till China jumps in the cricket arena, the same ICC will start finding faults with India. Money talks and _ _ walks.
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Mar 21, 2016 08:06am
When a bowler is doing good then ICC wake up to check action and ban him ... bro we cannot play you then it might be something fishy. Same happened with saeed Ajmal.
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Mar 21, 2016 08:07am
Imagine if they were a real test playing nation
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Mar 21, 2016 08:12am
Truth will prevail.
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Mar 21, 2016 08:14am
ICC really needs to fix this law. They destroyed talent of Saeed Ajmal.
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Mar 21, 2016 08:31am
@khan its not a problem if u suspect..it becomes a problem only when the concerned authority has suspicion. nobody cares a penny about ur suspicion..Even if Jadega or Ashwin has problem with their action what can u do? nothing...so just deal with it..
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Mar 21, 2016 08:47am
To all those sledging the ICC and making accusations of bias etc, every single bowler called into question so far has indeed had suspect actions if not with every ball then certainly with their "effort" ball, be it a bouncer by the fast bowlers or the doosra by S. Ajmal and the like. The actions of a number of Bangladesh bowlers have been suspect for some time and the ICC should have called them earlier. The reason why countries like Australia and England are less likely to have their bowlers questioned is because suspect actions are generally picked up and acted on at grass roots level. You only have to look at kids and young men across the maidans and streets of the subcontinent to see just how many are out-and-out "chuckers", and because of a lack of grass roots structure, these faults are not remedied early on.
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Mar 21, 2016 08:52am
Told you friends to not separate. As on bid nation or voice would have been better heard. Anyway its too late both Pakistan and Bangladesh have sold their cricket souls to BCCI. So like we do, screamer frustration, curse a few, then curl up and go to sleep.
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Mar 21, 2016 08:58am
Well the Bangladeshi cricket board should take action.
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Mar 21, 2016 09:11am
Banning strike bowlers of a team in the middle of a tournament is wrong!
These are not new bowlers they have been playing cricket since past years. If any issue in the action ICC may have reacted before the worldcup.
Politics prevails!
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Mar 21, 2016 09:12am
Bangladesh should form two teams called Bangladesh-A and Bangladesh-B and play themselves in Dhaka and call it Bang-law-Cricket, their fans are not matured enough to play International Cricket.
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Mar 21, 2016 09:12am
when are we ever going to test indian players?
(Both for action and dope)
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Mar 21, 2016 09:12am
"No players from India, Australia or England have been banned for suspect actions"
Above statement sums the character of ICC up very well. Threatening Players from Pakistan and Bangladesh teams are banned like a bee but I have never seen any suspension to Indian, Aust or England players.
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Mar 21, 2016 09:14am
A Bad tools man find fault with his tools as the great saying goes. It is Mr. Zaheer Abbas who is their at the helm of affairs, so please complaint him.
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Mar 21, 2016 09:14am
Where were these Bengali fans when their board was unconditionally supporting a 3 member ICC take over for short term gains. There's no point in crying foul now
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Mar 21, 2016 09:28am
@khan have u seen aahwin bowling with full sleves??bcci looks after the bowling action of its player in domestic games..Google pragyan ojha despite his very good record for national team he was banned ..later he corrected his action n again playing at domestic level..several other low profile young Indian bowlers have been banned for illegal bowling action..I think other boards too need to look after this..and I agree timing of banning is very poor..they should have banned taskin sunny before WC..
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Mar 21, 2016 09:44am
@zak bcci not afraid of 3rd grade team like bangladesh. we have enough firepower to beat any team
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Mar 21, 2016 09:44am
I see same pattern in Pak and Bangladesh. When things go wrong or you get caught by ICC blame India. If they think this will help their cause then be my guest.
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Mar 21, 2016 09:47am
@SAEED MASOOD instead of complaining invest in domestic leagues it will generate good players
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Mar 21, 2016 09:51am
Again the whole world is conspiring against poor Bangladesh. During world cup it was an LBW decision , now the all famous duo of Taskin and Sunny who are leading wicket takers in T20 and One dayers have been suspended!
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Mar 21, 2016 09:53am
@Abdul Bhai first you should know correct information..did you know why ajmal had so late entry at international level??it was because Pakistani captains had fear of him failing bowling action testtest so they didn't picked him up
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Mar 21, 2016 10:01am
@PBBIET //The reason why very less player from Big 3 get banned at international level is the cricket board keeps check on local players, for example BCCI banned 40 players at once at domestic level, they got the apparatus and infrastructure to check the action.
They got the labs that checks the suspended bowlers action for almost every country. However many financially tight boards like Bangaldesh and Pakistan cant afford those labs so bowlers go unnoticed and banned in International events.
Its not every single time a bowler bowl illegal delivery, but a few times and thats why they get caught after sometime. There was a reason Ashwin stopped bowling "doosra" cuz it require bending arm, which Ajmal did lifetime before being suspected.
Sorry to say this but whole world is not conspiring against Bangladesh or Pakistan, they got better work to do than to pull out conspiracies.//
Agreed, Pakistan and Bangladesh should stop seeing conspiracies in everything...
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Mar 21, 2016 10:06am
@Shahid When you don't win. Everyone else seems to be on the wrong side. Show some guts. Pakistani's and Bangladeshis.
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Mar 21, 2016 10:10am
@Truth It's called "you cannot win all the games". Coz every team will win once in a while against all odds. And all the teams you named here are top teams. Not some Pakistani or Bangladeshi teams.
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Mar 21, 2016 10:10am
@faisal As if bangladesh is a big threat for India and Australia.
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Mar 21, 2016 10:11am
Ravichukin Ashwin should also be tested. I have seen pictures of his bowling action where his elbow looks bent beyond te permissible angle. Looks like he gets away with bowling such deliveries infrequently.
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Mar 21, 2016 10:16am
As usual cry babies. India has a established a system in the domestic circuit to filter the players having an illegal action. Look at their arguments, due to fear of facing Tasking Ahmed, India propagated the ban on Taksin. What a joke!!..
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Mar 21, 2016 10:19am
One feels the pain only when it happened to him. BCCB kept mum when ICC ban Saeed Ajmal and later Hafeez.
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Mar 21, 2016 10:23am
BD thinks everyone is doing conspiracy against them....poor thinking
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Mar 21, 2016 10:26am
@khan Ha Ha Man its cracker of the day. Bumrah hand stands still like Bamboo stick while bowling. he never bends any of his arm . where is the question of 15 degree bending. grapes are Sour for you.
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Mar 21, 2016 10:31am
@PBBIET Excellent reply dude.
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Mar 21, 2016 10:44am
ICC Rules are only for less powerful but Talented Nations like Pakistan, Bangladesh, West Indies and Srilanka.
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Mar 21, 2016 10:49am
They were banned after the Pakistan game but before the Indian game - can some Indian fan explain this logic?
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Mar 21, 2016 10:53am
This time they had to play against INDIA. And India don't want to be excluded from World Cup.
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Mar 21, 2016 11:05am
@Harmony-1© ICC acts only when umpires or the opposite team files complains. Ireland reported the suspect bowling and ICC took the due course. They cannot say let WC finish and then will initiate an investigation
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Mar 21, 2016 11:11am
@zak
You're god damn right ! BCC-ICC :')
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Mar 21, 2016 11:16am
Why ICC can't test a bowler's action immediately after his debut cause a bowler action is normally unchangeable throughout his career. It is embarrassing to be reported for illegal action after playing 2 or few years. ICC should provide certificate regarding a bowler's action after his debu match.
By the way we want Ashwin, Jadeja & Bumrah to be tested for their action.
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Mar 21, 2016 11:17am
guys an illegal action is an illegal action, doesn't matter when it gets spotted or reported. It's in the best interest of these two players to fix their action and get back into the team asap. Instead of protesting and crying foul, try to address the problem. Pakistan did the same with Ajmal, but soon realized his action was actually illegal. So stop all this anger and talks of conspiracy theories. Get on with it.
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Mar 21, 2016 11:18am
@Valar Morgulis Ajmal was banned before AUS tour to UAE, grt your facts right and then comment.
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Mar 21, 2016 11:20am
@Amir what about the wickets in Australia and Bangladesh? You lost there too. Now say those two wickets were also doctored, right?
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Mar 21, 2016 11:25am
@Ali Dublin Ashwin played tests in Australia and the World Cup. Test facility in Australia didn't came up 2 months ago. Talk sense.
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Mar 21, 2016 11:25am
I do not see any conspiracy in banning Ajmal in the past or Taskin today. Some bowlers are bit unlucky like Hafeez and Taskin, both seem to be borderline cases but ICC must have used some cut-off and unluckily for them, they did not make the cut. I am sure Harbajan would also be a borderline case as his action also looks suspect. But this is more a matter of luck and the overall ICC rules that have been formulated by representatives of majority of cricket playing countries.
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Mar 21, 2016 11:26am
@Abdul yeah! Talent of bending thrice the limit.
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Mar 21, 2016 11:28am
@asgher Shami was tested for dope during the 2015 WC and Harbhajan, Ojha have been tested and asked for corrective action to bowl again. Anything else?
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Mar 21, 2016 11:30am
They should have waited and banned them afterwards the worldcup.........
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Mar 21, 2016 11:30am
to some who are asking why indian bowlers are not banned...this is because india checks and ban them at initial stage...but anyway feel sorry for bangladesh...
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Mar 21, 2016 11:31am
@Khan Does he bowl in full sleeves in scorching heat of June, July like Ajmal did in UAE?
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Mar 21, 2016 11:34am
@Ray before India BD will play AUS just like Ajmal was banned right before AUS tour to UAE. Taskin played in both asia cup matches against IND, why not banned then? Get your facts right first.
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Mar 21, 2016 11:43am
@MD. RAKIBUL ISLAM And we want Al Amin, Mustafizur and Shakib also to be tested. Their actions are surely doubtful.
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Mar 21, 2016 11:45am
The main problem is training. Many of these banned bowlers didn't received proper training. I think their country should arrange proper training to produce good and technically correct bowlers.
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Mar 21, 2016 11:50am
all bd supporters don't have knowladge abt history of cricket.
list of bowlers who faced actons from icc 4 wrong action.
Ernie Jones (AUS) –
C. B. Fry (ENG)
Arthur Mold (ENG)
Madhusudan Rege (IND)
Cuan McCarthy (RSA) –
Doug Insole (ENG) –
Tony Lock (ENG) –
Keith Slater (AUS) –
Harol(ENG)
Butch White (ENG)
Reg Simpson (ENG) –
Haseeb Ahsan (PAK)
Charlie Griffith (WI)
Ian Meckiff (AUS) –
Ian Redpath (AUS) –
Abid Ali (IND) –
Jim Higgs (AUS) –
Bruce Yardley (AUS) –
Syed Kirmani (IND) –
David Gower (ENG) –
Henry Olonga (ZIM)
Muttiah Muralitharan (SL)
Mohammad Hafeez (PAK)
Jermaine Lawson (WI)
Brett Lee (AUS)
Shoaib Malik (PAK)
Harbhajan Singh (IND)
Aswin (Ind)
Prgyan oja (ind)
Sachithra Senanayake (SL) -
Kane Williamson (NZ) -
Saeed Ajmal (PAK) -
Prosper Utseya (ZIM) -
Sohag Gazi (BAN)
Taskin Ahmed and *Arafat Sunny (BAN)
Count how many bd players there.
In these list 70% of players allow to ball with corrected action after that.
So bd fans go through facts before immotional
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Mar 21, 2016 11:54am
ICC were waiting for Murli to retire who bowled during his career with illegal action.
Now that he is gone, ban all good leg spinners especially because not everyone can play them.
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Mar 21, 2016 12:02pm
haha kinda funny. Hurting yourself and your economy. Comeon Bangladesh there are more important things in this world then cricket... GOD!!!
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Mar 21, 2016 12:11pm
Not just Sunny and Taskin but a third guy in that team chucks. Stop blaming the ICC, Big Three, conspiracy theories etc etc. Fix the problem that is rife at junior level and can be seen on maidans and street cricket scenes across the sub-continent. Chucking is a blight on the game that should be condemned by all, not glossed over on national lines.
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Mar 21, 2016 12:17pm
Come on Indian friends, they protested against the ICC and not the BCCI, I have NO clue why almost all of you are not happy at it.
By the way, this explains a lot....! :)
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Mar 21, 2016 12:25pm
@prince really? name one indian bowler pls in recent times.. ashwin and harbhajan singh are 100% illegal bowlers... their action is suspicious all the way ... ICC people will loose their job if they banned them. so basically india wants to won this world cup no matter what it takes.. accept the truth and have some courage to speak truth !!!
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Mar 21, 2016 12:26pm
I think its the attitude of Bangladesh fans.They think they are already in big league and other teams are scared of them and always get emotional thinking they are being penalized for the wrong reasons.If they rise doubts about the governed body like ICC than what will they follow ...Anarchy ??
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Mar 21, 2016 12:27pm
@Nadeerali more than 70% of them have not not even played international cricket. get ur facts right !!!
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Mar 21, 2016 12:30pm
The question is, why bowlers get banned during world cup? ICC being the governing body should set processes to test actions long before such events to avoid such circumstances.
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Mar 21, 2016 12:38pm
@khan yes because these indian bowlers gave Pakistan a tough time.
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Mar 21, 2016 12:39pm
@global citizen For your information, Harbhajan was tested three times. Ashwin's action is ok and as per rules of ICC
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Mar 21, 2016 12:45pm
@global citizen Pragyan Ozha has been banned from bowling when he was at his peak. Harbhajan has been tested twice for his action.
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Mar 21, 2016 12:51pm
@Truth "west indies is chasing 182 runs easily.. and Australia can't chase 142 .. England chases 230.. what is that..?"
Absolutely correct. I have had my suspicions ever since the result of 1992 world cup. The deserving team then England could not win too.
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Mar 21, 2016 12:56pm
Bumrah throws ball... Ashwin chucks... jedaja bends arm... no action will be taken
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Mar 21, 2016 12:59pm
So far 131 comments for this post. We, Bangladeshi people, love and think of Cricket this way. What is your reason of headache that much.
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Mar 21, 2016 01:00pm
@SohailAnwar
So you say Taskin is a leg spinner?
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Mar 21, 2016 01:09pm
@MD. RAKIBUL ISLAM Things is Pakistan should have reported Ashwin, Bumrah and Jadeja after playing them at Eden
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Mar 21, 2016 01:25pm
@DeLhIiTe! Not better then Indians.
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Mar 21, 2016 01:44pm
Ajmal and Murli have taken so many wickets and won so many matches for their countries with throwing action.....Shouldn't those matches be reversed and uncounted from wins of Pakistan and Srilanka.
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Mar 21, 2016 02:00pm
They left Mustafizur. Get him!
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Mar 21, 2016 02:15pm
The timing of the ban was suspect. They let the two play against Pakistan. India will now have an edge against Bangladesh.
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Mar 21, 2016 02:18pm
@Anon Didn't India played him twice in Asia cup?
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Mar 21, 2016 02:20pm
If some player is bowling illegal deliveries should ICC wait for WC20 to finish and then ban him ? Come on !! develop facilities and infrastructure at your home and correct the actions before they are exposed to international teams. Its not visual guess, its bio-mechanics report which analyse the actions and more then 15 Deagre in camera pictures gets recorded and the reports are handed over to team officials. These banglas have habit of crying because they r novice in international cricket.
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Mar 21, 2016 02:21pm
@Sri1 good one.
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Mar 21, 2016 02:31pm
People are far too eager to go down the conspiracy theory route.
Fact is if your action is illegal, based on the criteria agreed by the ICC membership, then you have to do remedial work to correct it.
With any rule, there is always an arbitrary cut-off (eg: voting at 18y 0 days, but not at 17y 364days).
Similarly, there may well be borderline cases, regardless of where you put the boundaries.
But instead of complaining about it, people should accept that illegal is illegal and try and correct the bowling actions.
Using that logic, it should actually be relatively easy for the borderline case to be fixed with minimal work.
The key to this really is the chucking that goes on at grassroots which never gets spotted. If you fix that, then you won't have the problem at senior levels.
In other countries the system will generally pick this up earlier - but in the sub-continent the structure and technology is not readily available to all and people keep slipping through the net.
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Mar 21, 2016 04:20pm
People are far too eager to go down the conspiracy theory route.
Fact is if your action is illegal, based on the criteria agreed by the ICC membership, then you have to do remedial work to correct it.
With any rule, there is always an arbitrary cut-off (eg: voting at 18y 0 days, but not at 17y 364days).
Similarly, there may well be borderline cases, regardless of where you put the boundaries.
But instead of complaining about it, people should accept that illegal is illegal and try and correct the bowling actions.
Using that logic, it should actually be relatively easy for the borderline case to be fixed with minimal work.
The key to this really is the chucking that goes on at grassroots which never gets spotted. If you fix that, then you won't have the problem at senior levels.
In other countries the system will generally pick this up earlier - but in the sub-continent the structure and technology is not readily available to all and people keep slipping through the net.
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Mar 21, 2016 04:30pm
The entire process adopted by ICC is questionable. It is important to recognise that so far not one white bowler has been called or banned while players from South Asia & West Indies have been targetted.. The technology is available to check whether a ball bowled during the match is illegal or not. Why not use the same instead of an opaque system where test is done in different conditions ? Brett Lee, for example, chucked quite often, especially when he wanted to bowl a 150+ delivery. How come he was never reported but a Harbhajan or Saeed Ajmal is asked to change something. In all cases, the decisions come when either Australia or England has a problem in playing certain types of bowlers. Using technology to check during matches will certainly be as effective as checking for no balls etc.
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Mar 21, 2016 05:23pm
@REVENGE: look at great india record outside india as well !!!
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Mar 21, 2016 05:58pm
@Amir Shahzad And I see a WC in ENG, T20 in SA, CT in ENG. Now if you're pointing towards tests, well both India and Pakistan are yet to win a series in AUS and SA. So what are you talking about mate? Play outside SC continuously for 18 months and then we'll compare what's what.
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Mar 21, 2016 06:41pm
Good to hear that bangladesh had chance to win the cup. Australia vs bangladesh tonight. Beware australia...
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Mar 21, 2016 06:47pm
Here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klBx2sT1QOg
Check out Takshin's lower arm whiplash. Definitely chucking. But agreed he should not have been banned during the world cup.
It will be hard for him to clean out his action. A
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Mar 21, 2016 07:06pm
@ram
Bhumrah Hand rotate in circle but he bends the arm and throw the ball before releasing it.
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Mar 21, 2016 09:42pm
join the club , but rule is rule once reported bowler should not bowl unless cleared by regulated body. Pakistan suffers the most who lost best attacking spinners. Taskin action is suspected so do Bumrah new indian fast bowler.
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Mar 21, 2016 10:31pm
Send both bowlers to lab. Bangla supporters need some patience.
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Mar 21, 2016 10:45pm
Welcome to the club Bangladesh. Had you been wise enough you would have dropped your star performers against India..As India has since 1996 only played against teams minus their star players..Remember Akram getting mysteriously injured..take a look and develop a log of such mysterious happenings where India played a depleted opponents team...
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Mar 22, 2016 12:18am
@Amir Then Pakistan should have won the matches in Bangladesh. Stop your non-sense conspiracy theories.
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Mar 22, 2016 06:49am
nothing new from ICC, they always had double standards!
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Mar 22, 2016 09:29am
Warn them, Correct them and Lift ban.
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Mar 22, 2016 09:46am
@Nadeerali/all bd supporters don't have knowladge abt history of cricket. list of bowlers who faced actons from icc 4 wrong action. Ernie Jones (AUS) – C. B. Fry (ENG) Arthur Mold (ENG) Madhusudan Rege (IND) Cuan McCarthy (RSA) – Doug Insole (ENG) – Tony Lock (ENG) – Keith Slater (AUS) – Harol(ENG) Butch White (ENG) Reg Simpson (ENG) – Haseeb Ahsan (PAK) Charlie Griffith (WI) Ian Meckiff (AUS) – Ian Redpath (AUS) – Abid Ali (IND) – Jim Higgs (AUS) – Bruce Yardley (AUS) – Syed Kirmani (IND) – David Gower (ENG) – Henry Olonga (ZIM) Muttiah Muralitharan (SL) Mohammad Hafeez (PAK) Jermaine Lawson (WI) Brett Lee (AUS) Shoaib Malik (PAK) Harbhajan Singh (IND) Aswin (Ind) Prgyan oja (ind) Sachithra Senanayake (SL) - Kane Williamson (NZ) - Saeed Ajmal (PAK) - Prosper Utseya (ZIM) - Sohag Gazi (BAN) Taskin Ahmed and *Arafat Sunny (BAN)/
A good information...
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Mar 22, 2016 10:06am
It will take another 25 years for the bangladeshis to get mature. pakistanis these days are no less as they start breaking TVs, burning bats etc on defeat at India's hands.
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Mar 22, 2016 10:30am
@Divergence ICC do not care for any protest, because it is a limited company and it has to look after their shareholders. There is no place for morality.
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Mar 22, 2016 10:42am
I hope ICC will bend Ashwin too if they are sincere.
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Mar 22, 2016 10:59am
@Indian ICC is delibertely targeting Bangla Tigers which started from the ICC world cup 2015. It is a continuous process by banning the players. ICC was humiliated during the world cup when ICC president Mustafa Kamal informed the world about the role of ICC which has became a Indian Cricket Counsel.
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Mar 22, 2016 11:11am
@Vasan It is always fine and dandy as long it goes in favour of India.
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Mar 22, 2016 11:38am
@global citizen Harbhajan was tested and his doosra was found to be illegal, he has to change his bowling action and thats when he lost his bite.
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Mar 22, 2016 12:15pm
bangladesh should setup some rudimentry mechanism to prevent such unfortunate incidents
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Mar 22, 2016 12:22pm
Timing may not be great for BD, but it can't be a conspiracy. BD fans are fooling themselves that inclusion of these two players could make them world beaters. They are an OK team improving every year, but by no means a feared team. In the contrast, even off-form Pakistani team is not taken lightly by opponents due to their talent and unpredictability. Aussies are feared regardless of their form and so do NZ.
On action front, these players to have suspect action. Even Mustafizzur's action should be looked at AFTER this tournament so hat BD won't have an excuse.
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Mar 22, 2016 01:03pm
Bangladesi call them tigers then why are they worried about ban... rest of their players can win matches for them...these was a wrong action..so the action takes place... Bangladesi fans a master in blaming others to cover their incompetency...It was BCCI PCB and SLCB who supported bangladesh for their entry into test matches.. for which they where not eligible
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Mar 22, 2016 10:55pm
Why some people's dont understand the rule of 15 degree? Non conventional action dont make u illegal bowler..if u bent ur elbow more than 15 degrees than ur action consider illegal..folks malinga is not illegal bowler,not bumrah, jadeja and ashwin..pls notice their elbow before comment..why Bangladeshis over reacting? Icc is not any club level administration, they works for cricket world..if you dont have Faith in it than u r not deserve to follow cricket.
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Mar 23, 2016 11:40am
@PBBIET Money and power is the key to win cricket matches
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Mar 23, 2016 11:52am
@Canada True
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