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UNITED NATIONS: United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon stands ready to mediate peace talks between Pakistan and India amid heightening tensions, provided the two neighbours accept his good offices, a spokesman said on Wednesday.
“Good offices is a standing offer,” UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric said at the regular noon briefing in reply to a question from a journalist who referred to ongoing clashes in India-held Kashmir and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s statement in which he also blamed the news media for inflaming the situation.
He underscored that the secretary general’s good offices worked only when both parties agreed to mediation. He said the UN chief had always encouraged direct talks between the two countries for the resolution of their outstanding issues.
Published in Dawn, July 14th, 2016
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Jul 14, 2016 06:53am
I am not sure UN is playing its part here. We have been ready for mediation by UN from day 1. Is it not obvious that we cannot work out issues among ourselves and we need a third party?
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Jul 14, 2016 11:01am
And we all know the final answer.. no thank you..
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Jul 14, 2016 11:19am
please stay away ...
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Jul 14, 2016 11:21am
UN should become tough against state-sponsored terrorism and propose sanctions against such countries
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Jul 14, 2016 11:29am
Why not solve the Kashmir problem according to the UN Resolutions in which Kashmiris should be given the right to self determination about the fate of Kashmir?
Why Ban kimoon is ignoring them?
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Jul 14, 2016 11:37am
@Amin a - if you truly believe that truth is with you, why bring in third party to the talks?
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Jul 14, 2016 11:39am
welcome
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Jul 14, 2016 11:45am
India should play a big role like big brother.and resolve the issues with pakistan. both poor nations wanted peace for their development and prosperity.Ban ki moon as a mediator can play a big role if government approve it.
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Jul 14, 2016 12:07pm
Yes right decision
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Jul 14, 2016 12:17pm
@Mujahid HUSSAIN. Its a old song now.we pakistanis must understand the struggle for pakistan first.because if we do that.we will able to sharpen our common sense
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Jul 14, 2016 12:23pm
Mr. Moon please take your offer to India first to see if they are ready for peace talk. As a peace loving country Pakistan has always desired to have a meaningful talk with India for a just settlement of the over stretched Kashmir occupation of Jammu & Kashmir.
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Jul 14, 2016 01:08pm
@Mujahid HUSSAIN.
My parents are from Peshawar, now in India. They also demand right of self determination on partition itself. Can't do it? Then why this previlige only for Kashmiris?
If Kashmiris have right, so do the muslims who migrated to Pakistan and Hindus/Sikhs who migrated from Pakistan
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Jul 14, 2016 01:23pm
@Abdulla Hussain Hindustan does not want to talk since it does not want UN resolution to be implemented, plain and simple.
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Jul 14, 2016 01:24pm
No Thank You
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Jul 14, 2016 01:26pm
Sir, Why dont you first offer good offices for South China Sea dispute ?
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Jul 14, 2016 01:29pm
How many issues aolved by UN previously? Palastine - Israel? Vietnam - America? Ussr- US? Iran - Iraq? , S korea - N korea? Iraq, Syria, lybia? I cant find an answer.
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Jul 14, 2016 02:01pm
@Good Point because Kashmir is an older dispute approx 68 years old.
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Jul 14, 2016 01:58pm
@Jahaalatmaar yes agree. And as per UN agreement Pakistan must leave all of Kashmir for 5 years. Please read the Uan resolution before commenting.
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Jul 14, 2016 02:03pm
@Jahaalatmaar have u ever read their resolution
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Jul 14, 2016 02:08pm
Let this be very clear, India will deal with its issues itself. We don't need anyone's help, but yes if anyone needs our help we'll be there for them.
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Jul 14, 2016 02:10pm
UN is not needed here. The time is gone. Only war, that too, a nuclear one may settle the matter for ever. Kashmir is a ego factor for both Pakistan and India.
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Jul 14, 2016 02:12pm
@A shah and what about India ? should it pull out too?? please elaborate here
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Jul 14, 2016 02:26pm
@Amin a You must read Shimla agreement. Kashmir is a bilateral issue and can only be resolved through talks.
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Jul 14, 2016 02:26pm
@mohammad iqbal i second you..but we can bycott india at all levels that will be enough to please our kashmiri brothers and simplest way to live in peace
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Jul 14, 2016 02:28pm
@s.khan
Yes. India has to pull out as well, but unlike Pakistan, can keep minimum force to defend Kashmir. But this will be done after the UN observers confirm that Pakistan pullout is complete with regulars, non-regulars and tribesmen out of Kashmir.
Then the UN Observer on India and Pakistan will hold a referendum to determine the peoples will.
However the problem with this resolution is that it was passed when Kashmir still had 40% Hindu population, which was driven away my the militancy. So a large part of those that should have been party to it are already dislocated. Hence the sanity of this resolution does not stand.
Also as of 2010 UN has removed Kashmir from its list of disputed territories.
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Jul 14, 2016 02:30pm
For What?
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Jul 14, 2016 02:37pm
@Mujahid HUSSAIN.
Who is he ???
Does he know about Simla agreement?
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Jul 14, 2016 02:40pm
@Zealot Pakistan should probably just try and keep itself away from isolation by the world and sanctions
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Jul 14, 2016 02:41pm
UN has already passed a resolution over it. But they should rather now lay down a process for execution of the resolution as well.
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Jul 14, 2016 02:45pm
Mr Ban would be better advised to look into the dusted archive of the UN and see what it says about the Kashmir conflict. Rather waiting for India to give its consent, force all parties to come to negotiating table by invoking UN backed sanctioned against any party which is dragging its feat. UN didn't ask Saddam Hussain for his consent before applying crippling sanctions against Iraq did they?
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Jul 14, 2016 02:47pm
@Jahaalatmaar , Have you read this resolution, it is available on UN portal. It has 3 steps and Pak govt has to take the first one. 1. Remove all military from kashmir.2. India is allowed to retain Army in kashmir. 3. voting.
So voting is not possible until first 2 conditions are met. Convince pak govt first
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Jul 14, 2016 02:50pm
Shimla agreement doesn't include your name as mediator Mr. Moon.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:01pm
Pakistan you forgot shimla agreement?
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Jul 14, 2016 03:08pm
@mohammad iqbal Lets start it. We will finish it.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:12pm
@Hitesh Yes especially against countries whose agents have been captured and confessed to have caused insurgency in other countries.An example kalbushan of India.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:15pm
yea india took the matter to Un at first place and you created a mess out of it , thanks but no thanks.. stay out of it.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:24pm
Key points to note are "... the secretary general’s good offices worked only when both parties agreed to mediation" and " .. the UN chief had always encouraged direct talks between the two countries for the resolution of their outstanding issues". PERIOD
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Jul 14, 2016 03:26pm
@Jahaalatmaar UN resolution is three part.
1. Pakistan should pull back from occupied territory.
2. India will reduce but will have soldiers to defend boundaries.
3. Plebiscite to be done with the actual Kashmirs.
that is why we do not want all three point and only point 3
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Jul 14, 2016 03:37pm
@Tony Singh read history before making statements since Kashmir was supposed to be part of Pakistan in 1947.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:40pm
@Jahaalatmaar No place for UN Resolution after Simla Agreement.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:43pm
Pakistan should provide military support for helpless Kashmiris.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:42pm
As UN told if both parties agreed then it will do mediation. So India will never agree for this. So point to take Kashmir issue to UN always. Now they are also fadeup with this routine baseless complaints and no one even bother and pay attention what happens in Kashmir.
So best to discuss it among India and Pakistan.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:45pm
@Jahaalatmaar shimla aggrement say mutual talk no third party talk and shimla aggrement ruled out all previous aggrement
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Jul 14, 2016 03:45pm
the Kashmir issue should need to be resolved according to the UN Resolutions in which Kashmiris should be given the right to self determination about the fate of Kashmir? Why it has been ignored since long time.??? The both countries should move forwards through peace talks and Negotiations by friendly diplomacy
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Jul 14, 2016 03:54pm
@Hitesh - India is already exposed here with "state-sponsored terrorism" - RAW operative's revelations and terror funding for militants in Pakistan!
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Jul 14, 2016 03:59pm
@THOUGHT PROVOKING No place for UN Resolution after Simla Agreement.
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Jul 14, 2016 04:06pm
Peace talks should be resume without wasting time. India should ignore its claim over Kashmir. Kashmir is an international issue, and claim of India that it is integral part of India is childish. Ignoring all the previous mistakes India should give autonomy to Kashmir.
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Jul 14, 2016 04:10pm
If you read the last paragraph of this article; it is crystal clear quote " He underscored that the secretary general’s good offices worked only when both parties agreed to mediation. He ........encouraged direct talks between the two countries .....outstanding issues", unquote. Clearly the UN chief is suggesting direct talks as per 1972 shimla agreement between the two countries which is not adjudicating or resolving as per 1947 resolutions or plebiscite.
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Jul 14, 2016 04:11pm
@Taimoor Khan That's where you are missing the point. India is not Iraq and she is one of the major contributors to various UN funds. With the exception of China all security council members are India's close trade and defence partners. Even China can't push India beyond a point as it has a bilateral trade of $80 billion with India.
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Jul 14, 2016 04:19pm
Then for what Shimla Agreement was signed by both the countries.
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Jul 14, 2016 04:21pm
@Harmony-1© ANY evidence?
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Jul 14, 2016 04:33pm
@Mahen - 1. Your RAW operative's evidence.
2. Brahamdagh Bugti of Baluchistan, who leads a designated terrorist organisation, openly admitted in BBC interview of RAW assistance and involvement.
3. Police interviews given in money laundering case in London.
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Jul 14, 2016 04:44pm
@Zak As usual you want UN laws to apply to India but not to China. Your duplicity stands exposed.
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Jul 14, 2016 04:53pm
A lot of illiterate people are commenting here and asking for the UN resolutions to be applied in Kashmir. The UN resolutions are outdated and have been replaced by the Shimla agreement which clearly states that Kashmir is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan and should be resolved bilaterally without the intervention of a third party. Stop supporting terrorism and India will be happy to hold bilateral talks with you. Terrorism and talks cant go hand in hand.
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Jul 14, 2016 05:13pm
Bycott india and indian world.if pakistan still think negotiations are only option then must understand it.we cant get kashmir through negotiations since independence how can now??? Sometimes self respect is important.we must learn to use to it
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Jul 14, 2016 06:10pm
Let him mediate and implement the courts decision in the SCS!!
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Jul 14, 2016 06:13pm
@pak sarzameen and India do not want even single point of UN resolution in fact Indians even do not want to speak about the plight of millions of Kashmiris
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Jul 14, 2016 06:14pm
@Hitesh "UN should become tough against state-sponsored terrorism and propose sanctions against such countries" Yes and also become tough against state terrorism
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Jul 14, 2016 06:15pm
@Timeto stopthis "India will be happy to hold bilateral talks with you" kindly say these words in India and they will burn you alive
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Jul 14, 2016 07:07pm
"He underscored that the secretary general’s good offices worked only when both parties agreed to mediation."
This double standard is reserved for Muslim disputes. Where was this approach when East Timor and South Sudan were being addressed?
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Jul 15, 2016 07:59am
There is a need to change our approach to convince the majority in the UN that it is India who does not want to hold constructive and meaningful negotiations with its cousin and neighbour. It is Pakistan who is the thirsty party not India who is desperate to reach a just solution to the Kashmir issue. Pakistan has taken this up with the members of theUN at various level many of the times since August,1947 without success due to India not responding. I believe it is high time UN got its act together and gave India a deadline to comply with its resolutions or else face the music.
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Jul 15, 2016 08:37am
If any "settlement"In J&K does NOT satistfy Pakistan, the militancy will continue!
Just look at China's reaction to UN law of the seas decision!
China says it is rubbish and won'r recognize it!
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Jul 15, 2016 08:43am
@Taimoor Khan ; Mr. Ban should first mediate between the TWO Koreas and re-unification of his own divided nation.
Then he can mediate between other nations!
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Jul 15, 2016 09:01am
What is the use. He is mediating between Pakistan and India. There is no conflict between India and Pakistan as of now. Rather he will resist pakistan to resist any aggressive move in the issue. whereas pakistan is itself indulged in internal problems, it can not afford to engage with India aggresively.
And what a pity with whoever UN stands that community or country destroyed completely. UN is nothing more that Group of Babus of different countries.
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Jul 15, 2016 10:09am
"He underscored that the secretary general’s good offices worked only when both parties agreed to mediation.". But both--rather all - parties agreed but still the UN sponsored talks on Yemen or Syria has not yielded any result. This shows that the UN chief holds no authoritative position and remains under pressure from vested interests as was the case when he excluded / removed the name of Saudi Arabia from the list of countries which commit war crimes. As regards Kashmir issue the UN chief would be considered to have done the job if he can try and arrange implementation of UN resolutions according to which India is required (bound) to settle the issue as per wish of Kashmiri people themselves.
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Jul 15, 2016 03:07pm
If Pakistan is so keen to obey what UN is saying then why not Pakistani still arrested the UN listed Hafiz saeed.
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Jul 15, 2016 04:04pm
United Nation and its member must take action to help yhese innocent people.
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Jul 15, 2016 05:00pm
@Jahaalatmaar : UN resolution does not give the Kashmiris self determination if they want to remain independent and sovereign state. Plebiscite is to choose between the two. But PLEASE ALSO NOTE ---- THIS RESOLUTION IS NOT BINDING .
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Jul 16, 2016 12:57am
@whitesky if you want sincere peace, then make it binding without quibbling, if it is the intention.
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Jul 16, 2016 01:28am
pak should forget kashmir, secure its water sources and focus on its own development.
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Jul 16, 2016 01:29am
Ban ki moo should be very careful of not being seen as partisan. Being the chief of U.N. he has to be non partial, I hope he does not play Chinese politics in the issue....we reserve the right to decline any recommendations of the U.N.
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Jul 16, 2016 07:12am
@Sultan Pervez : "...I believe it is high time UN got its act together and gave India a deadline to comply with its resolutions or else face the music"
When someone is that desperate they start believing in miracles...
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