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The Indian government on Friday referring to a telephonic conversation between Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and US President-elect Donald Trump said it looked forward to Trump helping Pakistan "address the most outstanding of its outstanding issues", Times of India reported.
Indian Ministry of External Affairs Spokesperson Vikas Swarup said the Indian government was aware of reports of the phone call and said, "We look forward to the President-elect helping Pakistan address the most outstanding of its outstanding issues ─ terrorism."
During a telephonic conversation with Prime Minister Nawaz on Wednesday Trump said he is willing to play any role that Pakistan wants to find solutions to outstanding problems.
The text of the conversation released by government's Press Information Department (PID) shows that during the conversation Trump also praised Nawaz and expressed his desire to meet the prime minister soon.
The Trump transition team said that Prime Minister Nawaz and Trump had a "productive conversation" that lacked what they referred to as the "flowery language" present in the Pakistan version of the talk.
“President-elect Trump and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif spoke… had a productive conversation about how the United States and Pakistan will have a strong working relationship in the future,” said the Trump transition team in a rare readout of his conversation with a foreign leader.
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi stepped up a drive to isolate Pakistan diplomatically after the Uri army base attack in September in which 19 Indian soldiers were killed. Hours after the attack occurred, Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh termed Pakistan a 'terrorist state' and accused Pakistan of involvement.
In October, the White House shut down a petition mostly signed by US citizens of Indian origin seeking to designate Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism. Days after the news made headlines, the US assured Pakistan that it does not want to declare it a state sponsor of terrorism and desires to work with Islamabad “as cooperatively as we can” to eliminate terrorist safe havens from the South Asian region.
The election of Donald Trump as US president, however, has Pakistanis wary that he may accelerate what they see as a shift in American policy to favour India.
To many Pakistanis, Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric ─ he once proposed banning Muslims entering the United States ─ and business ties to India are signs that his administration could shift further toward New Delhi.
Trump has yet to lay out a detailed policy for South Asia, although he recently offered to mediate between India and Pakistan regarding the Kashmir dispute.
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Dec 02, 2016 01:26pm
Cool down India as per your claims Pakistan is isolated so there is nothing to comment. You have to be decent and presentable to gain anything on international fronts as most obvious at home may not be that much point of concern for International world. All the statements from Indian government may be very helping for them on domestic front but on international front either they are helping Pakistan or at least not creating any harm. Though I do not have much expectations from Trump or USA but reaction of India even on a phone call is little strange
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Dec 02, 2016 01:28pm
Well Said.
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Dec 02, 2016 01:30pm
Good One. Lets solve the terrorism first
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Dec 02, 2016 01:30pm
Nowadays terrorism is everywhere : India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Bangladesh, Europe, Latin America. It is in the whole world.
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Dec 02, 2016 01:29pm
Sshhhh, you dont need to know that..
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Dec 02, 2016 01:40pm
it likes me-" it is my drum and it is my choice"
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Dec 02, 2016 01:51pm
Well done dawn. I really started liking Dawn news for reporting right information.
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Dec 02, 2016 01:57pm
Trolling level - excellent :D
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Dec 02, 2016 01:57pm
@Nomi Goraya and now you know about the truth behind phone call
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Dec 02, 2016 02:00pm
There's comments that regularly come from
The Indian side stem from insecurity and bitterness . All of this has to to with CPEC. They failed in their nefarious plans to destabilise Pakistan and all they are left with is hate and bitter comments . Just ignore and play it by the ear .The stonger side is usually silent while the empty vessels make the most noise .
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Dec 02, 2016 02:01pm
Spokespersons remark shows that "India knew the truth".
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Dec 02, 2016 02:03pm
India is acting like that X wife that can never get over her divorce . Always bitter
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Dec 02, 2016 02:03pm
@Haneen Do you really believe that such phone calls will define the relationship of two countries? It is just a formal conversation but why India is that bothered about that phone call?
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Dec 02, 2016 02:02pm
Terrorism & terrorists are threat to this world.All civilised & democratic nations must unite
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Dec 02, 2016 02:09pm
@Nomi Goraya I request you to watch the complete weekely press brefing of Indian Ministry of External Affairs Spokesperson Vikas Swarup before passing on the comment. Pls find the twitter handle of Vikas Swarup@MEAIndia
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Dec 02, 2016 02:23pm
Mr. Swarup do you think what you are perpetrating in IHK and Pakistan is anything but terrorism.
Please remember anything humans are doing is governed and regulated by fate, by Almighty; there may be instances in life where one expects something to happen and something else does. In the same vein if someone plots something bad for others there is a POWER which saves them.
Please be mindful of that!!
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Dec 02, 2016 02:36pm
The present team in Indian Foreign Office is highly educated, matured and sensible.The diplomatic ties with almost all countries are really going very good. They measure, control and talk right. Look at the words they use to put the perspective...
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Dec 02, 2016 02:39pm
@No politics I think your last sentence is little misplaced or it felt to me as sugar icing on some bitter cake lol. Each and every word of your comment is full of arrogance and hate towards Pakistan then how can two nations be friends as I am assuming you an educated person. My dear neighbor Pakistan was created due to very basic reason that we want to live a free life without any shadows of fears without any constraints what to eat and what to not in short we wanted to be master of our own lives without any dictation and that very fact is still valid. We as Pakistani want to have good relationship with India but on equal terms but for that you have to first accept Pakistan as country and then rectify your very flawed concept of creation of Pakistan then I am sure we can very clearly move forward. As far as more Muslims in India it is their choice and they may be happy but at least I can not imagine that life where you always need to see around even to support a player.
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Dec 02, 2016 02:42pm
Trump should be asked to address the most outstanding of the outstanding causes, the illegal occupation of Kashmir by india, for the sake of regional peace & security..!
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Dec 02, 2016 02:42pm
@bala It is real information for me that they are educated at least I was not able to figure out any diplomatic maturity in statements from Indian foreign mission. About many success in near past may be you are referring to NSG membership issue of India or BRIC conference or very successful SAARC summit or very decent and very diplomatic statements from them.
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Dec 02, 2016 02:52pm
@Ahmed - Pakistan becoming prosperous(In fact all south Asian nations) is good for everybody, we all recognise it
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Dec 02, 2016 02:53pm
A US-Pakistan phone call gets a reaction from the Indian govt. :D :D How low can you go?
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Dec 02, 2016 03:07pm
@RM yes agreed lets get the indians out of Kashmir who are terrorising not only Kashmiris but also carrying out covert operations of terrorism in Pakistan.
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Dec 02, 2016 03:10pm
All statements by any Indian official are so filmi...
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Dec 02, 2016 03:18pm
Good. Now we will discuss the root causes of terrorism.
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Dec 02, 2016 03:25pm
India runs it country like a bollywood movie. Another 3 years and they will lose all remaining credibility
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Dec 02, 2016 03:26pm
India is acting like a crying baby
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Dec 02, 2016 03:28pm
@Nomi Goraya that's because they are putting on a brave face, on an indirect slap on their faces. Trump was alluding to Kashmir issue, nothing else. He already said, pakistan and pakistanis are great people. India always makes a fool of itself by living in their own world.
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Dec 02, 2016 03:28pm
The issue of what you call ' terrorism' is actually the freedom struggle of kashmiris from illegal indian occupation. UN resolutions are testimony to that. So angle it anyway you want, it will always come back to 'KASHMIR' and the brutal killings and maiming of Kashmiri citizens in IOK.
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Dec 02, 2016 03:32pm
Jealous Indian mentality.
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Dec 02, 2016 03:49pm
@Nomi Goraya well said sir. This is how an Indian should be given a powerful reply.
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Dec 02, 2016 03:58pm
One needs to give india credit for being a true enemy........
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Dec 02, 2016 03:59pm
@Nomi Goraya , If your definition for creation is valid, then the people of Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan should have been happy people. The reality is people need go leaders to be happy and prosperous.
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Dec 02, 2016 04:00pm
@Nomi Goraya - Good points made!
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Dec 02, 2016 04:03pm
And who is going to tell India that US under Trump will not be sitting in your lap like you think it will be?
Yeah, you will do many things so will we, US policies under trump if goes by the way he said then those My friends will be big shock to India and the whole region and the world as well....
For example, calling forces back from war torn areas, NATO funding, visa policies, made in US projects and so on...
Somebody tell India,"Dont count your chickens before they hatch"!
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Dec 02, 2016 04:09pm
@SHAHID MAHMOOD , What power is there in a reply? Making politics out of fear and ignorance is suited to politicians, because it is their livelihood. We, common people, are the sufferers of this hate politics. Wake up atleast now, so that at least the future generations live in peace and prosperity.
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Dec 02, 2016 04:09pm
@No politics Brother your message of peace is something we love so much, but Narendra's fundamentalist mindset misses the love train. We love India too, because we are the same people. Stay blessed yaara.
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Dec 02, 2016 04:09pm
@Nomi Goraya True. Election time coming in UP etc. You know tough battle ground so gotta up the Pakistan hate card. NG in a house.
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Dec 02, 2016 04:13pm
@No politics Yaar Khush rahoo. No politics are another words for Shanti. :))
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Dec 02, 2016 04:14pm
@Nomi Goraya , What I said are true words, said with sincerity and concern for common man; but, it appears as arrogance to you, because your vision is blurred with hatred. Forget us as Indian and Pakistani. We are human first and all of us should live happily, without hatred and envy.
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Dec 02, 2016 04:17pm
Indeed. Pakistan main issue is terrorism. That is, Indian sponsored terrorism in Pakistan and in Indian occupied Kashmir. The Indian spokesperson would be better advised to think before he talk.
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Dec 02, 2016 04:21pm
gI think your last sentence........................................... @ NOMI EXCELLENT post DOST! @ NO POLITICS LOVe from Pak ALSO GOOD MESSAGE IN THE LAST LINE.
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Dec 02, 2016 04:22pm
@SAhmad The dialogue by trump doesn't look filmy!!
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Dec 02, 2016 04:25pm
What an eccentric, unilateral, one sided, weird and kooky statement by the current "movers and shakers" in New Delhi?
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Dec 02, 2016 04:25pm
@Taimoor khan Indian sponsored terrorism true. That's our problem. Hey man that needs to the punch line back when Indian current fundamentalist folks talks about Pak and terrorism. I'm still waiting for Surgical Strike Videos. Bollywood get it new movie title IDEAS huh???
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Dec 02, 2016 04:29pm
@No politics Look my dear neighbor to have a life of your choice is your fundamental human right. Examples quoted of Syria is totally misplaced as there people did not want to live under Asad rule and this proves my very basic point. Same is case with other pointed examples. Please do not mind if I quote example of Kashmir when millions on Muslims are living amazing life as per your words with progressive India they are not happy and they are waving Pakistani flags and facing pallet guns and bullets. If you will be able to understand this very basic point then you will know why Pakistan was created and what Pakistan means for us. All of us across the border are suffering due to issue of Kashmir why not to sit and solve it why India is shying away to sit on table with Pakistan make some agreement good or bad but solve this issue accept Pakistan as reality and then see how much love we have. But your government is calling us terrorist etc do you think this will start friendship ???
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Dec 02, 2016 04:29pm
@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad RIGHT. Same old same old nothing has changed. Pakistan is poor, Pakistan is bad, Pakistan is everything negative and India is Incredible where all is perfect. When will this end we both are poor and shame on both of us, we just don't quit while the world players make billions selling us weapons to fight our own families. :((
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Dec 02, 2016 04:37pm
@No politics Just read your comment again you are constantly using words like arrogance like hatred like misplaced ideology rather you said that very basic of creation of Pakistan is hate ... I have not used any of such words I believe in respect friendship and peace. I believe that for any solution you have to sit on table and there is nothing which could not be solved on table. I believe that destiny of India and Pakistan is coupled with the bond of land and people. I believe that neither Pakistan nor India can make progress without cutting their huge defense expenditures. I know that people are suffering on both sides of borders but I will just request you to use soft words and try to ask your government to go for rational rather than emotional approach. Nothing will be solved by them. Pakistanis are more human than any place else and they know what is meaning of PEACE, LIFE and HAPPINESS as we got it back in very hard way. But we love our pride our country
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Dec 02, 2016 04:40pm
India is going nuts over ONE phone call imagine If trump and nawaz sit together lol
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Dec 02, 2016 04:43pm
Oh India - you can be a partner yet you insist to be that nagging, irritating, scorned neighbor that has her eye on everyone else's business but hers.
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Dec 02, 2016 04:48pm
Anyone remember the 'award' given by the IMF to the finance minister recently..?? ;)
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Dec 02, 2016 04:47pm
@Nomi Goraya Nice 1 yaar. Kashmir issue needs to be solved, the top leaders on both sides need to understand to give and take on the issue and face the public pressure for the final decision. Tough leaders are needed to solve this problem, not the current leaders on both sides. Misery of Kashmiris really needs to end and than we both can live in peace. India indeed is magnificent place full of rich history and so is Pakistan. We both can progress so fast because we have brain, manpower, young generation and above all our beautiful historic culture. Sadly one problem of Kashmir is holding us back. Buss karo jhagarna yaar. Whether it's the Kashmiri Pundits or Kashmiris Pellet gun victims they are all our children. In the words of and Indian soldier from Andhra Pradesh dukh hota hai woh bhe to hamareh he hain, they come in crowd to protest and we have to use force to control and many get hit in the eyes then. Sad hurts so bad see all my people of Sub continent suffer from poverty. Love.
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Dec 02, 2016 04:49pm
Wipe terrorism out of Pakistan for the sake of humanity. Whole world will support Trump then.
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Dec 02, 2016 04:55pm
Hopefully will help Pakistan to eliminate terrorism into Pakistan through Afghanistan funded by India.
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Dec 02, 2016 05:01pm
Swarup is a very sensible and competent man.
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Dec 02, 2016 05:03pm
Indian government trying to stab Pakistan in the back and trying to divert attention from Kashmir issue with their usual talk against Pakistan. There lobbyist failed to convince in the past and will continue to fail in future. India needs to sit down and resolve the Kashmir issue instead of trying to play international fiddles against Pakistan.
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Dec 02, 2016 05:04pm
@Nomi Goraya Just read your comment again you ....... ...........................This was good post yaar. @ NO POLITICS you are a good person dost. I know you want peace, but you have to understand Indian people are thinking with emotion dost not logic. Pakistanis really love India, but many in your elected government have tried and still are to create terror in Pakistan, but so far they have failed to break us, your government leaders are calling Pakistan hell etc., just imagine, even after all that I still want to tell you we love Indian janta because of common bond and common history that will never change, but Indian government has to sit down on discussion table. Love to Indian from Pakistan.
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Dec 02, 2016 05:10pm
@imtiaz ali khan Very reasonable words from you.
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Dec 02, 2016 05:28pm
Pakistan's most outstanding problem is India's belligerency. India insists on oppressing people of Kashmir.
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Dec 02, 2016 05:31pm
The core tssue of Kashmir must be solved as soon as possible rest will be better days.
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Dec 02, 2016 05:39pm
its a bit rich isn't it to lecture Pakistan when india is led by a man with blood of thousands on his hands, not to mention India's state sponsored terrorism in Kashmir, who is india expecting to listen to their hypocrisy?
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Dec 02, 2016 05:39pm
@RM absolutely so when are your indian troops leaving kashmir then?
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Dec 02, 2016 05:41pm
@P BLR no one listens to the indian government, not even indian citizens much less Pakistan.
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Dec 02, 2016 05:49pm
Need of the hour is brotherhood. There should be full-stop for killing, counter killing, hate etc. My earnest request to all, please do not give chance to any foreign country to escalate bad relation between India and Pakistan. I only know they will be benefited not we.
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Dec 02, 2016 05:49pm
He will tell Pakistan that US will ask some countries to stop training and sending terrorists into Pakistan.
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Dec 02, 2016 05:50pm
thank you India for finally agreeing to the common cause of terrorism. I am happy you accepted third party mediation. I am sure you understand the root cause is Kashmir.
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Dec 02, 2016 06:10pm
Good
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Dec 02, 2016 06:29pm
Yes I think we should discuss terrorism in Pakistan including acts perpetrated at the behest of Indian intelligence services.
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Dec 02, 2016 06:43pm
@RM - "Good One. Lets solve the terrorism first"
Agreed, let India stop its terrorist activities both in Baluchistan and Kashmir.
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Dec 02, 2016 06:44pm
Always negative comments from Indian cabinet members.
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Dec 02, 2016 06:52pm
This PMs FO needs to purge nepotistic uncles and cousins and have proper FO advisers appointed; an impossible task with the current PM. Till then, bear the embarrassment brought on to Pakistan by corrupt politicians and their appointed Yes Men.
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Dec 02, 2016 07:14pm
Yes must exert pressure on India to stop her proxy war
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Dec 02, 2016 07:17pm
Yup - cross-border terrorism on the TOP!
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Dec 02, 2016 07:34pm
Oh please... the mighty Pakistan always terrorizing the little india...
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Dec 02, 2016 07:36pm
why is india afraid for pakistan to tell the world that the major cause of terrorism is indian state terrorism in kashmir
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Dec 02, 2016 07:51pm
Seems Indian dreams have been shattered by Nawaz-trump Telefon call thats why they are crying like a baby.
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Dec 02, 2016 08:01pm
The outstanding issue is that of Kashmir....
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Dec 02, 2016 08:02pm
Kashmir belong to Kashmiris not to Indians. We are not the same people and we will never be the same people!
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Dec 02, 2016 08:04pm
@Nomi Goraya We do not want Indian friendship , our destinies are opposite and our aims are different. As for accepting or not accepting Pakistan, that is their psychological illness, based on what erroneous history they are taught, not our problem. But we will take Kashmiris in IOK to freedom. End of story.
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Dec 02, 2016 08:06pm
All the world say that Pakistan is harbouring terrorism. All the tails are waging against. Why? Because we are the nation who does not love itself. Although, US, India, Israel and EU all are supporting terrorism to have theie gains
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Dec 02, 2016 08:23pm
india is worst enemy of pakistan without any discrimination because india want to isolate pakistan globally once again but i want to add that we are power of the world .indian lobby dont know what we have believe me we will demolition your fabricated imaginations which can never acceptable due to your rough behave with us.
next generation will give our example God willing !
we are still hopeful to move with sincere collaboration of russia,china,and arabian states as well.
good luck pakistan and Army !
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Dec 02, 2016 08:23pm
MR. Swarup, the outstanding of the outstanding issues also involves India, India's involvement in Baluchistan, brutality in Kashmir by the Indian army and above all, the issue of Kashmir. Please stop this one sided whining, remember, India is not the victim here, check the realities and see how many Pakistanis have lost their lives to terrorism compared to Indians. And I haven't even mentioned the situation of LoC and the targeting of civilians by the border forces of India. Please get over your role of playing the victim.......ALWAYS.
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Dec 02, 2016 08:27pm
@bala, OK, lets just look at the two neighbors of India, China and Pakistan based on your comment, wakey wakey Bala ji, quit feeding your over extended ego and stop lying to yourselves.
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Dec 02, 2016 08:45pm
The wording used here signify that India thinks itself next most powerful country after US and is not ready to hear even soft gesture by the world power towards Pakistan and Pakistan response is as usual mute...
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Dec 02, 2016 08:49pm
The comments that Trump made were just a little Diplomatic courtesy. Surprised why it is being made such a big deal. Pakistan PM is just using it to bolster his rapidly declining credibility due to the current court proceedings against him.
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Dec 02, 2016 09:28pm
Why India is so much worried...???
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Dec 02, 2016 09:31pm
"India looks forward to Trump addressing Pakistan's 'outstanding issues': Swarup" The first and foremost holding of the promised Plebiscite in held Kashmir.
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Dec 02, 2016 09:31pm
President-elect Donald Trump's election victory is "good news" as Republican Presidents have promoted and maintained "historic" relations with Pakistan spanning the Cold War, when India was aligned with Soviet Union against USA. Democratic President Obama's ill-advised policy harmed regional peace and stability by his India-centric policy, ignoring Pakistan and other countries.
President Obama in his 8 year presidency over looked India's state-sponsored terrorism using Afghanistan and Iran's territory? He ignored India's brutal torture and killings in Kashmir? He provided India massive weapons, destabilizing the region? He supported India's MSN bid, without demanding India "sign" Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty? Such duplicity and dishonesty will end under President Trump, who wants good relations with all regional countries for world peace.
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Dec 02, 2016 09:51pm
@Kamal PASHA are you suggesting immigration is the cause ?
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Dec 02, 2016 10:09pm
@Nomi Goraya
Fully agree.
And the big outstanding issue is KASHMIR.
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Dec 02, 2016 10:11pm
@Ahmed
As a reasonable Pakistani do you think what Nawaz's team did was not displaying insecurity. Especially when they knew that if they go ahead and deliver wrong information to public they could be countered and they have been countered. As a Pakistani citizen am ashamed of what the foreign press about the country.
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Dec 02, 2016 10:17pm
@zak "As for accepting or not accepting Pakistan, that is their psychological illness"
what illness? Bangladesh formation is a fact, and its been 45 years now. We need to come to terms with it.
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Dec 02, 2016 10:29pm
@bala says an indian. hows your relationship with russia? all foreign governments aprpeciate the role pakistan is playing on the global stage. withstanding modi's belly dancing for his master obama, the US and pakistans interests will continue to align in this region. the americans dont know that yet.
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Dec 02, 2016 11:23pm
@Ahmed it was Gov of Pakistan that published the transcripts of phone conversations. This is considered breach of diplomacy. India has one line answer to all that drama. Indian economic development is far ahead of us so let's not go there.
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Dec 03, 2016 01:26am
@Haroon great comparison!
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Dec 03, 2016 01:47am
Soon the same comment will be reiterated by Trump when Modi and him sits together!
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Dec 03, 2016 01:57am
@Imtiaz ali khan well said
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Dec 03, 2016 02:01am
@Ali Very good observation. Now US, Russia and China are all on board and trying to be friends with Pakistan.
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Dec 03, 2016 02:15am
Utter idiots on both side . culturally most alike and in practice most divided .
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Dec 03, 2016 02:18am
@Nomi Goraya brilliant response nomi!.
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Dec 03, 2016 02:36am
@COOL BREEZE This is the kind of positive, civilized dialogue we should be having. We here in Canada interact with all minorities including Indians. We find lot more common among us. Thankyou
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Dec 03, 2016 02:45am
@Imtiaz ali khan Very nicely articulated.Thank you
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Dec 03, 2016 02:51am
@Ali
Excellent On Same page
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Dec 03, 2016 03:52am
@Nomi Goraya
Relationship is based on the best interest of the country.
Pakistan has been American closest ally since 1948 until recently due to the mutual interest, not out of love relationship.
Likewise, American post 911 interest in India is also based on American interest in the region.
But, American are realizing they cannot pit India against China like they had pitted Pakistan against Soviet Union in 1970's.
Americans strategist India has proved time and again they cannot handle a small country like Pakistan, let alone China.
Americans will never make that mistake in this region.
Americans are also interested in the CPEC to connect with the central Asia & China.
American investors have trillions of dollars at stake in investments with respect to China.
Americans will never take the risk of alienating China for India, because of the stakes, and no history to support that India is capable of handing China, if push comes to shove.
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Dec 03, 2016 05:12am
Well said India, every country is ready to help Pakistan solving its outstanding of outstanding issue.
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Dec 03, 2016 06:36am
Thanks God finally we will see a free Kashmir about time
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Dec 03, 2016 06:46am
@Imtiaz ali khan don't let it bother you since it doesn't bother them.
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Dec 03, 2016 07:31am
@Ahmed ; What CPEC has to do with this topic? Can you amplify it please?
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Dec 03, 2016 07:35am
@Nomi Goraya; Very good and valid points - for a healthy debate and better outcome.
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Dec 03, 2016 07:38am
@MUSTAFA what is it?
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Dec 03, 2016 09:11am
The problem of India is that don't want to solve Kashmir issue and don't want others to solve it. They know they have occupied Kashmir and Kashmiris hate them.
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Dec 03, 2016 09:16am
Most outstanding issue : KASHMIR. Without solving this issue.....every dialogue is a non starter.
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Dec 03, 2016 11:14am
India's reaction is not surprising, as usual, it has lowered itself morally just for the pleasure of indian people.indians should be further pleased to read the comments of Washington Post .... "Trump, the pleaser president. He tells whoever listening to him exactly what the person wants to listen."
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Dec 03, 2016 11:17pm
@bala I don't think so.
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Dec 04, 2016 07:54pm
For your pride Swarup, a word of advice- Swallow up!
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