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NEW DELHI: India said on Friday it had yet to decide about participating in the mega global trade initiative in Beijing next week, pressure mounted on Prime Minister Narendra Modi not to miss the opportunity of joining the Chinese-sponsored venture.
Tentative reports said India was likely to be represented by local embassy staff or academics at the two-day gathering of leaders and ministers starting on Sunday but a foreign ministry spokesperson said no decision had yet been taken on on China’s “Silk Road” initiative.
An added point of regional importance is that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif will be there.
Indian foreign ministry spokesman Gopal Baglay said: “The matter is under consideration,” and reports said this was a position the government has maintained since March when China extended an invitation. Since then, Beijing has stepped up efforts to get India to attend.
A senior advisor to former prime minister Atala Bihari Vajpayee said he would be participating in a non-official capacity. “The Chinese capital has been spruced up to welcome nearly 30 heads of state and government, besides representatives of over 100 countries,” Mr Sudheendra Kulkarni wrote.
“However, one country will draw pointed attention because of its absence. Unless Prime Minister Narendra Modi changes his mind, there will be no official Indian participation in BRF.
“If India chooses to stay away from BRI, it would be a highly short-sighted and self-defeating decision. BRI’s enormous benefits for India are self-evident. One, if India shows imagination and ambition, it has an opportunity to participate, on an equal footing with China, in infrastructure and economic connectivity projects to integrate South Asia, which is today one of the least integrated regions in the world. Two, beyond South Asia, India and Indian businesses would have opportunities to participate in BRI projects in Asia, Africa and Europe. Three, India’s “Act East” policy would get a big boost if India joined BRI. For example, the Bangladesh-China-India-Myanmar (BCIM) Corridor has the potential to act as a strong catalyst for the socio-economic development of eastern and north-eastern India (which is relatively under-developed), besides opening up India to countries in South-East Asia and to regions in southern China,” Mr Kulkarni said.
Published in Dawn, May 13th, 2017
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May 13, 2017 08:41am
We Indians do not want to be part of this.
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May 13, 2017 11:33am
Now India realising the CPEC reality.
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May 13, 2017 11:33am
Mr Kukkarni has received a few lakh rupees by Chinese Embassy... That's how world leaders are agreeing to this self destructive plan for their countries... Individual corruption takes precedence over a bunch of fools called a nation...Modi is not corruptible... He is well aware of the dangers of flooding Indian market with cheap Chinese goods which will turn Indians into low class laborers from factory owners and managers... Thank you China but NO.
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May 13, 2017 11:33am
Without Indian participation Chinese will find it difficult to be Fianacially sustainable
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May 13, 2017 11:35am
No thanks straight away
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May 13, 2017 11:36am
Sudhendra kulkarni still has black ink on his face.
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May 13, 2017 11:41am
we will definately participate by sending one of our junior minister to attaend the ceremony.
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May 13, 2017 11:43am
great trade oppurtunity for India, we should look what is in our intrest ..short term and long term ,but hats off to China great plan
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May 13, 2017 11:47am
OBOR is a vision than a project. This vision will take about half a century to materialize given the vastness. Currently if it is unsuitable given the situations so be it.
The world anyways needs a large market as India. And OBOR contours are within kissing distance of its boundaries. When it deems fit it can easily join in. Also all players would only welcome India's participation even if it is much later.
Its a long long way from here. Half of us won't be even alive to see OBOR in its entirety.
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May 13, 2017 11:49am
Indians should be joining this. It's a chance to end western hegemony. We can bring prosperity back to Asia.
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May 13, 2017 11:50am
India is not interested ! india is advancing at warp speed without chinese help !thanks to visionary leader MODIJI !
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May 13, 2017 11:50am
@patel You cannot afford to...Otherwise you will stand isolated in this region and it is just a matter of time.
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May 13, 2017 11:57am
one country will draw pointed attention because of its absence. Unless Prime Minister Narendra Modi changes his mind,....THATS THE MODI POWER .mighty INDIA is great .
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May 13, 2017 11:59am
Pressure on Modi???
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May 13, 2017 12:03pm
@Kamran Rasool it is OBOR and CPEC is just a fraction of it. Get your facts right.
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May 13, 2017 12:09pm
As an Indian, I'd say that we should stay miles away from this debt trap. Our economists have already hinted that CPEC will never actually recover its investment.
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May 13, 2017 12:12pm
Don't worry, Modi won't betrey the nation as his Pakistani counterpart.
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May 13, 2017 12:16pm
What is the deal? Opportunity and threats analysis needed if things are in our intrest join it else we are happy with current growth rate.
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May 13, 2017 12:23pm
I will not be happy for my nation to be a part of this. But good luck to the others.
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May 13, 2017 12:26pm
@Sheraz India already has a part of OBOR. The second largest market in the world with enormous purchasing power cannot stand isolated. It is impossible and very stupid to think as such.
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May 13, 2017 12:31pm
@Sheraz India has many trading partners like Japan Korea Europe etc so we don't require CPEC like you
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May 13, 2017 12:36pm
What a bad situation for India, Now if India accepts the invitation, will lose its credibility by accepting china & pakistan as a main key player, however if decided not to be part of it then will regretfully watch the outcome fruit of this project and can't blame anyone.
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May 13, 2017 12:36pm
China will burn its cash in almost all countries it is investing in. India will be prize catch for the Chinese. Everyday the Chinese state media the Global Times takes out an article urging India to join OBOR.
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May 13, 2017 12:44pm
For us CPEC is irrelevant unless free access is allowed Afghanistan . Kulkarni may go as a spectator. Who will mind a free trip to China. We have no issues with China but have issues with CPEC because of Sovereignty. Modi does not yield to pressure.
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May 13, 2017 12:46pm
pressure on Modi??? it is actually pakistan and china are under pressure due to Modi...
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May 13, 2017 12:46pm
"Pressure on Modi to attend OBOR"
Pressure by whom? A vast majority of Indians don't want India to be a part of OBOR. If anything, there's pressure on Modi not to attend or send any official at the OBOR summit.
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May 13, 2017 12:51pm
Just look at the countries who are sending their heads of state to China. Most of them are either commodity exporters who have big trade surpluses with China or those which are trapped under Chinese debt and can't say no.
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May 13, 2017 12:58pm
@Sheraz haha isolating india what a joke
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May 13, 2017 01:05pm
@Sheraz yeah,we will stand isolated,iran,afghanistan,bangladesh aren't on talking terms with you and we will stand isolated.
Unlike you,we don't rely on a single project to shape our future
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May 13, 2017 01:10pm
If China says its good for India, its better that India stays as far away from it as possible, because we know what China means.
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May 13, 2017 01:19pm
@bryan Joseph; Brilliant comment Bryan. Only want to add that in the time frame the geo-political situation and map of the world will be completely different than at present. Who knows what the shape and size of Pakistan be. Who knows what the condition of Afghanistan and Central Asian Republics be. It's a long shot and at present a distant dream than a reality. Not sweet words for my Pakistani friends, I know. They are after all so dependent and hopeful of this project that they have built a dream around it. Or should I say have been sold a dream. But as you said still along way in the future.
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May 13, 2017 01:37pm
Looks as though Modi is sulking about the Silk Road.
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May 13, 2017 01:40pm
@Kamran Rasool Not true at all. This guy Kulkarni is speaking for himself. India does not need CPEC either geographically or otherwise. We are doing fine economically and Chinese investments in India are rising rapidly without any OBOR nonsense. This scheme is for countries who are otherwise unable to attract investments and willing to mortgage sovereignty over many issues to the Chinese. We Indians have our pride. Thanks but no thanks.
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May 13, 2017 01:43pm
@Sheraz Not possible to isolate a large country like India. Even if India is alone it is 1/3 of Asia. So how to be isolated. India needs better connectivity within its boundaries. Need to focus on economy and not get distracted by Chinese whispers.
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May 13, 2017 01:46pm
Modi looks for profit and he wants profit for his country.. He will not be interested to fulfill China's ambitions..
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May 13, 2017 01:47pm
Unlike NS ,NaMo is incorrupt, so we should rest relaxed and assured, whatever decision is taken by modi will be in the nation's interest.
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May 13, 2017 01:52pm
Sudheendra Kulkarni has no influence over Modi govt. Though he was once associated to Vajpayee, he is an outsider to BJP now. And India has valid reasons to suspect that the real objective of the BRI is to find new markets to dump Chinese industrial output due to their overcapacity.
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May 13, 2017 01:54pm
Indian economy is growing well without BRI at the moment. That is not the case with Pakistan for which CPEC is their only hope.
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May 13, 2017 02:00pm
China is bent upon clearing its industrial dumps to other countries in the name of connectivity.
Sorry India has its own plans.
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May 13, 2017 02:08pm
@Kamran Rasool OBOR and cpec are 2 different things for India,Cpec will surely not bring any benefit for us but other parts of Obor may like its eastern connectivity.We have to keep an open mind and if not today than may be later on we also take part in Obor after due diligence.
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May 13, 2017 02:17pm
@almu what you say is very right,but we have to protect our industry and business also,that should be the first priority of any country.We will do no different.
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May 13, 2017 02:20pm
Any decision should be taken with pin-pointed focus on India's economic and strategic interest and not in short-sightedness. At the same time, India should think if it could carry the burden of OBOR and not run into long and heavy debts.
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May 13, 2017 02:27pm
@sher Even isolating Pakistan is not possible. True India is large but its economy is just 20% the size of China, it's manufacturing is just 14% of China. Its steel production is just 10% of China, and its exports is also 15% of China. China exports were 2000 billion last year, India was around 260 billion USD.
China per capita income is 5 times that of India and India per capita is equal to Pakistan, unlike the perception. In HDI India ranks 131 in the world. In per capita it ranks 140 in the world....so lot of catching to be done.
Car sales in China was 25 million last year, in India it was 2 million, not even 10% of car sales of China. So light year difference between India and China. Lot of India indices are much closer to Pakistan actually than it is with China.
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May 13, 2017 02:34pm
No one in the World can force Modi Ji to participate in OBOR in China.
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May 13, 2017 02:44pm
It's official now, India will not attend. This immediately reduces the number of people connected via OBOR to 3.2Bn from the 4.4Bn touted by the Chinese & removes the 3rd largest PPP economy from it's ambit.
Kudos to Modi for choosing to stick by National goals & ignoring the Chinese.
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May 13, 2017 02:51pm
Sir ,thanks but no thanks.
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May 13, 2017 02:56pm
@patel let's see. Better don't do it
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May 13, 2017 03:03pm
India will not attend it..At max a jr staff at the embassy will go there..India doesn't care who attends or not as there cannot be a compromise on sovereignty
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May 13, 2017 03:11pm
@Sheraz , world knows who is isolated and as regards India, she is unstoppable! Future revolves around India!
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May 13, 2017 03:17pm
@N.S : As the Chinese ambassador to India said this week, the primary reason that China is economically ahead of India is because China opened up its economy 14 years before India. So if you compare today's Indian economy to where the Chinese economy was 14 years ago, India is actually doing better than China. So Yes indeed India has a lot of catching up to do with China but it is certainly on its way to doing so.
Pakistan also has a lot of catching up to do with India. For all the fields that you compared between India & China, whether its the GDP, Manufacturing, Exports, Car Sales etc, Pakistan is less than 10% of India in every field. In fact Bangladesh & Sri Lanka are doing better than Pakistan in many of those areas.
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May 13, 2017 03:29pm
@Gurpreet singh Main point here you missed. India population is 1.3 billion or 130 crore and Pakistan is 200 million or 20 crore, so India population is 6.5 times that of Pakistan or Pakistan population is just 15% of India's.
So if India economy is 7 times that of Pakistan so is it's population, if its cars ales are 2 million and for Pak it is 2.85 lacs, that is 7 times less than India, so is it's population. The per capita income of India and all per capita indices are same, between India and China the difference is of light years...
But in the case of India and China, the population of India and China is same, very minor difference, 1.3 billion for India and 1.4 billion for China, BTW India will be ahead of China in 2022, but only in population.
So this is the main point, all the indices of India and Pakistan are very similar. All the indices of India and China are all very different.
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May 13, 2017 03:32pm
no international power pressuries modi it is happen only by internal pressure...
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May 13, 2017 03:35pm
NOT needed.
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May 13, 2017 03:35pm
Indians are NOT needed.
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May 13, 2017 03:36pm
We people of the globe share this world..it is a global village..let us utilise it's potential for mankind. All we have to do is to set aside our differences, our greed, sharing and caring for each other as human beings..folks..If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. Good luck
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May 13, 2017 03:40pm
India have its own project comparable to Belt&Road . If BRI is beneficial for India then India have already join it .
Japan , UK , Germany , France etc Prime Minister / President not attending this forum.
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May 13, 2017 03:44pm
Kulkarni has a deflated ego.Wgat he says is irrelevant.
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May 13, 2017 03:48pm
Free trade was in past and Will be in future. It is not necessary to attend Belt and Road initiative forum in Beijing.
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May 13, 2017 03:48pm
India matters since it has largest consumer market ( middle income & high income ) . India's domestic demand has grown many folds as per person income is increasing at an extraordinary rate.
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May 13, 2017 03:51pm
It is Just dangerous. The concept of China is Give loans first at very high interest rates and and then make them buy cheap chinease goods. Once they know that you cannot repay they will take advantage you. It is better India says away from this non-sense.
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May 13, 2017 03:59pm
@N.S : Despite your most of the facts are true. India is just behind 14 years than china. India's GDP is the same now what china used to be 14 years ago. China is now slowing down quite uncontrollably. Few years back china was growing at 10% not its only 6.5%. India which is now at 7.6% has potential to go 10-11% because of its younger population. Its the same advantage China had 14 years ago.
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May 13, 2017 04:12pm
@N.S
Does not make any sense in comparing like this when actual issue is whether to join CPEC or not ... A senior advisor to former prime minister Atala Bihari Vajpayee is attending and I hope all this will not be highlighted there for discussion instead of CPEC.
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May 13, 2017 04:17pm
The article nowhere comments on what pressures Modi is under. However, as an Indian i would recommend India to attend the meet. Not necessarily Modi himself should go, but some rep of govt may go. If nothing else, this will keep the door ajar and a hope for China that if the deal for India is sweetened a bit more, India may eventually join. We may use this to influence China to settle our border disputes and if possible that with Pakistan. As only China can influence Pakistan at this point of time.
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May 13, 2017 04:22pm
@Harmony-1© I think u missed the part about whos asking who.
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May 13, 2017 04:27pm
@N.S - As I mentioned earlier, China had a 14 year head start over India in liberalizing its economy & hence the advantage that it enjoys today. But as per many credible global economists, by 2050 India's economy will be on par with China's economy & possibly even ahead of it. India also enjoys a demographic advantage over China with a much larger proportion of younger population than China thanks to China's "One child policy" and this advantage will start showing in a few years. One important point o be made between India-Pakistan economic statistics is that in every category, Pakistan has been trending negatively for the last few decades. Just 20 years ago, India's economy was 5 times bigger than Pakistan's and today its almost 9 times bigger. 20 years ago Pakistan's per capita income was about 25% higher than India's but today India's per capita income is about 25% higher than Pakistan's. This negative trend & increasing differential with India does not bode well for Pakistan.
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May 13, 2017 04:29pm
I do not underdtand what added importance is to India by Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif joining...it has absolutely no significance to India.
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May 13, 2017 04:31pm
Reading some of the comments by Indian friends shows how small mind these people have. India should come out of this isolation and join the world.
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May 13, 2017 04:32pm
@N.S Whatever if India is not that much of important why would China insists India to join the OBOR.
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May 13, 2017 04:35pm
India said it has yet to decide about participating in the mega global trade initiative in Beijing next week, but it would be stupid not to find out exactly what would be going on without Indian participation.
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May 13, 2017 04:35pm
@patel ... Speak for yourself.
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May 13, 2017 04:39pm
Interesting to see, so many of Indians relying on Pakistani Independent Media and their particpation in such matters. Indian Media should take some lessons and report more independently to attract both Pakistani & Indian readers. Well Done Dawn!
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May 13, 2017 04:40pm
@Sheraz
Nobody can afford to ignore India. Because any country dont want to lose big market like India
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May 13, 2017 04:41pm
@TEJA Hmm right. India 14 years behind China if looked into the current scenario of GDP of China and India in comparison. This looks very simplistic and mundane, do you really think just the GDP growth rate matters. BTW China average GDP growth rate for 3 decades were in excess of 9% and hovered around 9% and as high as 10%...30 years of unprecedented growth.
Now, what about other indicators, India exports has declined, the export target of 500 billion in 2016 has to be lowered, actual exports were about 260 billion USD, minus IT exports. Huge drop here, what about manufacturing matching that of China.
India GDP growth is due to government expenditure in large scale construction/infra/metros and things like that. It is more about expenditure than about manufacturing growth, even an increase in sales price of car is considered as increase in GDP(gross domestic product), this can be a bit superficial...
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May 13, 2017 04:41pm
Modi ji will do what is best for India. For him it is "India First". Cheenis can relax now.
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May 13, 2017 04:54pm
@N.S , whatever comparisons and numbers you bring in, you cannot deny the fact that India is rapidly progressing into a major world economy! Power of a country depends mainly on money not defence alone !
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May 13, 2017 05:05pm
India must attend and India must participate in the project whole heartedly. The economy must always come first. Having said that, if India does decide to take part, be certain the terms will be very different from what Pakistan has accepted. Indian companies will be the principal contractors and India will get financiers of it's choosing and will not kowtow to the Chinese.
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May 13, 2017 05:08pm
India is smart they will not fall for Chinese debt trap and hegemony.
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May 13, 2017 05:10pm
@N.S " India GDP growth is due to government expenditure in large scale construction/infra/metros and things like that. It is more about expenditure than about manufacturing growth "
And what is CPEC Sir ? How it is helping Pakistan by giving CPEC contracts to Chinese firms.
In India everything of the above is by Indian contractors. Cars mentioned by you are manufactured in India.
And about impact of increase in the cost of the product I request you to read more ....or apply same metrics for China 's 3 decades of GDP growth while showering praises in total ignorance Sir !
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May 13, 2017 05:28pm
@Gurpreet Singh China has ended/abolished the one child policy three years ago or so, how did you missed this important news. They knew about the populace getting mature if not older and calculated the right time about abolishing the one child restriction.
About the young population bulge in India, it is more about the demographic dilemma than it is about the demographic dividend India.
China and India are different when it comes to work ethics, China is a one nation, centralized, controlled government, India not. China follows the Mao, Tao's , Confucious philosophy, India is divided between caste and creed, region and religion, the difference is big. But as it is said it's the region which prospers and develops, if India develops it helps Pakistan even the trade is very low, same with China and India.
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May 13, 2017 05:33pm
On a lighter side, for people it is 'belt and suspender'; for nations it is 'belt and road'. Glad to see commonality of belt. Roads can never be suspenders. Or can they?
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May 13, 2017 06:29pm
Recently Chinese envoy in Islambad said that Pakistan does not produces items that China requires.
How will Pakistan come out of the high interest rate loan /debt trap when already struggling to be competitive in the world trading with a mere 20/22 bllion US$ foreign currency reserves that too built up on loans.
The gungho in Pakistan will evaporate half way i.e. in the next 10/15 years when Chinese will start dictating economic terms and the young generation than will curse the present ruler of mortgaging their futures.
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May 13, 2017 09:16pm
@Roadi That is not because our media doesnot have freedom, it is because Indians have more curiousity and hence we read more. If it is in an understandable language, we will read it. That is the differenc
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May 13, 2017 09:19pm
@PC : But, Indian participation is a dream under Modi Sarkar.
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May 13, 2017 09:22pm
@john: OBOR is a dead horse without CPEC.
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May 13, 2017 09:28pm
@South Asia I read a lot of Indian media and I can say with conviction that many media house like TOI, Zee news, Hindustan times, doesn't appears to run independently...specially when it comes to news about Pakistan/Kashmir and news related to China, clearly looks concocted, fudged and doctored if you compare the news with independent media.
Only the Hindu and NDTV occasionally seems to be independent to quite an extent. IBN live which partners with CNN also seems partially independent.
Not a single media house like DAWN...
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May 13, 2017 09:34pm
See how many Indians are harping of the sour grapes here?
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May 13, 2017 10:28pm
@N.S : Another point is, population of Pakistan is 22 times that of Somalia, however, all Pakistani indices match that of Somalia.
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May 13, 2017 10:42pm
@Harmony-1©
we don't need to sulk as you put it
a thriving economy, growing market, international connections - no need to sulk
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May 13, 2017 11:05pm
@Iftikhar Husain .."Isolation" , sorry it does not gel well with India.
We know where our interest lies.
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May 13, 2017 11:11pm
@N.S .Sorry all absolutely wrong stats..its not your cup of tea..forget it..
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May 14, 2017 03:12am
@patel
We Pakistanis don't want you to be part of it.
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May 14, 2017 04:40am
@patel We are already part of it but through the BCIM. Plus we have strict regulations and no free trade agreement. We aren't so desperate as to jump right in and never ever will we be trading through Pakistan.
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May 14, 2017 07:02am
@Iftikhar Husain why you people think like I don't understand is india own desicon to join or not india gdp growth is 7.7% without obor or so called cpec pakistan only 4.4% and how just making roads increase gdp you say business increases but that only for china all contract taken in cpec by chinese company they earned profit bcoz no company in world work on charity means pakistan taking loan from china for cpec paid to chinese company and give interest to china govt and those road work for chinese good transport to European nation really chinese are amazing
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May 14, 2017 08:52am
The fact that China has blocked India at several occasions. Be it at NSG, be it at UNSC for blocking Pakistan based terrorists. And now when they have a desire how can they expect India to cooperate. It's naive on part of these Chinese scholars and the Chinese establishment to think that diplomacy is a one way bridge.
Moreover, China has said that India can join OBOR at a later stage. India has smartly chosen a wait and watch approach. Sri Lanka a country that has been helped by Chinese investments is now in $8 billion debt. The interest rates charged by the Chinese lenders are more than what world bank and IMF charges. Makes one wonder what the actual Chinese grand strategy is. May be this time its not "divide and rule" but "choke with debt and rule"
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May 14, 2017 09:00am
India has already decided not up be part of this. Watch the latest news.
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May 14, 2017 09:28am
No need of any cpe or any thing.
Indian economy is at its best.
The economy has strengthened multiple times.
Indian rupee is stronger than ever.
Sensex is touching above 30000 for the first time when during congress regime it struck around 23000.
Why do we need to change the govt ?
Please correct if i am wrong.
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May 14, 2017 09:37am
Let me tell you the ground reality.
Indian economy is at its best since bjp came to power. During congress regime it stuck at 23000 due to their wrong policies.
Money invested in stock market last 2 years have become multi fold in 2 years.
This is ground reality no fake news.
Wait for some more time us dollar will come below 60 and inr will become more strong.
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May 14, 2017 09:41am
@TEJA I agree that india is behind china but by 5-6 years.
Not more than this
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May 14, 2017 11:44am
@SUDHAKAR, USA you said the ultimate truth !
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May 14, 2017 12:19pm
@SUDHAKAR, USA Litany of lies here. Somalia population is 1.3 crore , so Pakistan population is not 22 times compared to Somalia at 200 million or 20 crore.
Somalia GDP per capita is 400 USD, Pakistan is 5400 USD PPP and 1600 USD nominal, 4 times more in nominal terms. Pakistan GDP nominal is now 312 billion USD, Somalia is 4.6 billion USD, multiply it with the relevant population and still Pak is many times ahead. The fact of the matter is in sanitation and clean drinking water India matches Somalia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Pakistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia
https://tribune.com.pk/story/883648/pakistan-miles-ahead-of-india-in-improving-water-and-sanitation-study-shows/
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May 14, 2017 01:36pm
Pressure on Modi....how funny, he is the boss who got support from crores of Indians and there is no such PRESSURE....
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May 15, 2017 03:02pm
modi is incomprassible
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