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MANCHESTER: In the last few years, there’s been a massive difference India and Pakistan — and again it showed at Old Trafford on Sunday.
Read: India continue unbeaten streak against Pakistan at World Cup
Pakistan are still trying to rely on talent alone, while with India it’s all about teamwork. They all know their roles, and they execute them superbly.
We had good sides in the 1990s, but now I think this India team intimidates Pakistan.
When Pakistan teams head into these games, they are always under pressure and feel like they’re the weaker team.
That culture needs to change first, and then the fitness level needs to match the Indian players.
Of course, Sarfraz Ahmed got it wrong at the toss; especially when you’re playing two spinners and you decide to bowl first.
More than that though, I feel that they got it wrong with the ball in hand. They struggled to put the ball in good areas on a regular basis, and it was easy pickings for the Indian batsmen.
India have very classy batsmen, let’s not forget. They wait for the bad ball, and didn’t have to do much against the Pakistan attack given the inconsistency in the length.
Mohammad Amir was the only one who created a bit of pressure by bowling a good length.
I feel English conditions actually suit him the most because there’s always something there for him. He knows how to bowl on these pitches.
Amir has come back with a bang and he’s now bowling really well, finding a nice rhythm.
But elsewhere, that venom is not really there and the pace is down.
I would now try and bring one of the youngsters back into the team. In this Pakistan bowling attack, there’s no real pace apart from Wahab Riaz.
When you look around at the other teams, they have guys that can bowl 140kph, so maybe Mohammad Hasnain is the way to go up front with the new ball.
The good thing is Pakistan now have one week off before the next game against South Africa next Sunday.
They’ll have time to go back and reflect on the mistakes that have been made, and what needs to change.
The South Africans are also down, so it’s a match between two teams that have not really justified their potential yet.
All is not lost, despite the blow of this latest defeat. I feel that if Pakistan win all four games, there’s still a chance they go through.
The chances of that happening are low now, but it’s simply a case of starting to win games first and then see where you are later in the tournament.—Courtesy ICC
Published in Dawn, June 18th, 2019
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Jun 18, 2019 09:56am
Waqar is right on money when he says that this Indian team intimidates Pakistan. Does IK has the courage to admit the same?
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Jun 18, 2019 10:04am
You will not fix Pakistani cricket without fixing Pakistan.
Pakistani cricket's malaise is a reflection of the larger affliction of Pakistan itself.
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Jun 18, 2019 10:06am
Wiqi Bhai! Our team lacks two W's in the team and no one is capable now of turning the table whenever needed. You and Wasim Bhai should take the responsibility to hunt the new talent, fast and furious and mold those youngsters to become speedstars.
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Jun 18, 2019 10:10am
Good points sir.
One bowler suggestion is what you came up with ? Any concrete steps to make that cultural change or that change of mindset ? Everyone is giving very high level advice which we have been hearing for last 5 years.
No culture has changed, first class cricket quality is still bad and political powers run the game.
Nothing has changed in last 5 years of demise.
It’s tough as a fan.
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Jun 18, 2019 10:52am
Good thoughts by experienced bowler.
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Jun 18, 2019 10:53am
Wasim Akram should have also told Waqar that this India pak match was not a war. Why so much post match analysis, and so many stories on this match? If the analysis was done for all previous matches which Pakistan played during last 5 years similarly, the stats would have been better for Pakistan. Relax now
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Jun 18, 2019 10:54am
and science culture and education culture and above all moderate religious culture
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Jun 18, 2019 10:58am
Pakistani team will always lose when the team is selected on nepotism; and it should ...
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Jun 18, 2019 10:59am
Yesterday chase by Bangladesh is an example and put more disturbing light on the mindset of the Pakistani players. Sarfarz stubborn attitude to defend his foolish decision which proven wrong and players unprofessional attitude need lot to be done once this tournament is over.
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Jun 18, 2019 10:59am
Bowling coach should step down.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:03am
My biggest concern in your time as coach is you couldn't teach any fast bowlers how to bowl yorkers? Amir has bowled well, but when you bowl first after winning the toss the time to take wickets is in the first 10 overs, not when the game is out of reach in the last 15 overs and all you are doing is containing the damage and prevent sides scoring 330+.
It is not just about talking English and having fun at the commentary box. Our past greats like Waqar and Rameez needs to also show the technical flaws where our players are going wrong and how they can correct it.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:03am
Well said Waqar. "but it’s simply a case of starting to win games first and then see where you are later in the tournament." Plain and simple just take it game by game.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:06am
Well Pakistan needs to change its lazy, lethargic, leg pulling and nonprofessional culture as a nation. Hard work with honesty and consistency is imperative for success in any field.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:13am
All ur statements are wrong. Just look bangladesh
How easily they chase in 40 over...if u had bat first then also it would have same result... 7.0
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Jun 18, 2019 11:18am
Pakistan and top for teams on point table, are world apart. Even BD and Afghanistan have a lot more intensity. Even though few matches have been washed out, I am glad to see points table and team standings. Only those who deserve are marching on with a purpose.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:22am
It's becoming a repeated and old song to change the entire team, the captain, the coach and the Selection committee after we lose like this. Trust me, I have watched very closely for a long time now. Unless we change the entire culture and mindset of our nation, changing and chopping will Never work but temporarily.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:29am
Patriotism and practicality don't go together most of the times. This Indian team is currently ranked #2 and have already thrashed South Africa and Australia. Given this, Pakistan should have approached the match differently - Play to their strength and don't allow India to dictate. Instead, we've allowed India the opportunity to play to their strength and strangle us with their discliplined Bowling attack. When you put up a decent score, they start panicking and our bowlers are the best, when it comes to intimidation on doubtful minds. Our batsmen should play without any pressure and they normally perform well. You needed a calm and sensible captain, who could assure the players to take it as another game. Instead, you have Sarfraz, who is clueless on captaincy or field setting and you find him mostly reacting more than proactively doing anything. He has a lot to learn from Dhoni. Dhoni is always alert in setting fields, or instructing bowlers - even when he is not the captain. Coming to Media and commentators, specially the ex-cricketers, it's disgusting to see that there is no consistency in their analysis as well. This is the 7th time, our team has lost to India in the worldcup. So none of the so called experts have any moral rights to ridicule this team.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:33am
Cut payments to players and staff for underperforming players and staff. The problems will be resolved soon.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:38am
Instead of criticising, it is high time to encourage them to learn from their shortcomings. The same team had won against India in champions Trophy.
They need to calm down, focus and come back with determination to perform better.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:38am
Honestly speaking, I was impressed by Fakhar's batting... the 2 guys who may think about their place again are Professor (Hafiz) & Jamai Raja (Shoiab). Aamir was also brilliant & the 2 spinners were also good in stopping the runs in middle overs. The one important area I saw was "Fielding", where you were terribly weak & it requires massive polishing.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:38am
He makes sense here .Best of Pakistan inning was bowling of Amir who remind me of old days of my fear when Wasim Akram and Waqar used to ball against us.In my personal opinion ,team discipline Ietting Pakistan down.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:45am
What we really need is to end the culture of types of batsmen for different formats. Like Azhar Ali for tests only or Imam ul haq for one day only. All batsmen should be jack of all trades and should be able to adjust their style according to situation. Also, the toss was good at the time but the conditions changed soon afterwards and when the Indians came in the weather favorably changed the conditions of the pitch and the wind pattern. Overall, the list of players on last PSL showed the talent we have in this country and unfortunately we terribly lack it.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:45am
I believe Fitness should also be made a criteria for selection.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:52am
The match was disappointing even if Indians are happy with the win - a tougher match was what cricket fans want. Pakistan's big problem is the lack of a systematic approach. In the eighties and nineties, they had players who succeeded despite lack of systematic effort. India has long focused on the process of getting its first class system in place. You rarely find a player selected, by India, whose fielding is poor while Pakistan gives away 30 runs in the field in every match. The second aspect is the failure to persists with talent. India persisted with Rohit Sharma for years and he came good later on. Umar Akmal was easily the best batsman in Pakistan but they never gave him a regular spot and dropped him for his keeping. Pakistan needs a change in thinking but it needs to begin with focus on fielding, fitness and then batting or bowling skills
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Jun 18, 2019 12:04pm
Bring local coach and sincere selectors who have an eye to spot talent and select team on merit rather than personal likes and dislikes.
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Jun 18, 2019 12:05pm
What would Arthur do with a listless team? Firstly the team selection should be on merits or else it would demoralise youngers who want to take up the sport. Secondly the attitude more than the skill. Skill can be fine tuned but attitude is something that needs to be developed early on. Ravi Shastri or Javen Miandad didn't posses great skills but had great attitude to stay and fight.
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Jun 18, 2019 12:09pm
Cricket can be sometimes funny. Riaz, who was forced to come round the wicket because he was stepping on the wrong areas while bowling over the wicket, ended up getting a wicket. Everyone was surprised.....
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Jun 18, 2019 12:11pm
Let's face it. The existing team is a far less talented bunch than even the tier 2 Asian teams and it should come as no surprise if we lose to Afghanistan as well. The defensive mindset of the batsmen, the casual mindset of the fielders and the mediocrity of the bowlers clearly point to a very dismal future for cricket in Pakistan. The old school cricket mindset of the 80s and 90s does not work in the entertainment era of bating exuberance and athletic flamboyancy. We need to start all over with fitter athletes and train them with tennis racquets instead of bats. Search for fresh talent and replace the existing mediocre bunch. Let the hearty YAWN of Sarfaraz at the pinnacle of his career playing the most crucial game of his life, remind us there is no solace in mediocrity.
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Jun 18, 2019 12:28pm
Our cricket team is a reflection of our nation
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Jun 18, 2019 12:32pm
I cannot accept it after one loss...They did not play well on Sunday that's all. Best of luck for rest of tournament
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Jun 18, 2019 12:36pm
Yeah, should hire some good player on lease Whenever there is match with India.
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Jun 18, 2019 12:39pm
Cricket is a huge money spinning machine ..... obviously all involved in Pakistan's cricket are unable to balance this fact with playing the game at the highest level.
Repeatedly trying to reinvent the wheel, will not work.....it has not worked in the past because all the architects involved are all complicit in one way or another.
Pakistan cricket is like the Steel Mill, PIA ..... one leg in the grave. Persisting with the likes of Inzamam etc will only ensure the other leg also goes in.
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Jun 18, 2019 12:40pm
The first criteria for Pakistan to do well is to have healthy relationship with its immediately neighbour.
Unless it happens, there is a crisis of identity, a radar less boat prone to sinking any time anywhere.
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Jun 18, 2019 12:44pm
Good thoughts by Waqar. Still he is not talking like other "Experts" . They are only blaming no concrete solution. They are only trying to please Indians because money comes from there. I was really surprised by comments of Ramiz. In order to get into IPL he cant see any good in Pakistan. Please please see how we play cricket in Pakistan. Very few international teams visited us only last year. We just Started PSL. We play our cricket in Home away from home. Still we beat English team. No corruption signs in current batch. This was the "NORMAL" practise when our so callled "experts" use to play. So dont only blame some up with solution. Sarfraz I think is the leader and will Inshallah bring Pakistan out of crises,
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Jun 18, 2019 12:44pm
This is the very same reason i told you not to chest-thump for your unpredictable team. I hate the word "Unpredictable" as it will only bring disappointment most of the time. Please understand, cricket has come a long way, stay fit, play with true spirit. When you enter the ground, remember there are millions of people pinning their hopes on the 11 gentlemen. The game is not played for revenge or paying back, its to showcase your talent on an international arena. The best team on that particular day will make their country proud. Losing team should learn from their mistakes.
Unfortunately, its very sad to see your former players slamming the current team. They made the same mistakes and they expect you to learn from their mistakes. The same playing 11 may not play the next WC, so its best for them to bring all they got. Try not to disappoint your fans in the next game. Good Luck from India.
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Jun 18, 2019 12:46pm
Once the country situation improves the team itself will improve. The team is a reflection of our current state of affairs. Infighting, poor economics, chaos, lack of direction. Despite this we do still something once in a while. However. for consistency we need to lay the foundations on a long term basis.
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Jun 18, 2019 12:49pm
What is most important is the mindset of the players. Indians play cricket as a sport, whereas Pakistanis consider it a war against India, the nation, which they should win against all odds. Pakistanis also know very well in their mind that their country is poor and weak in all areas, whether it is economy, education, military strength, etc. They have been fed a lot of falsehood stories about the adventures of Pakistanis an are therefore not in a position to understand and appreciate the ground realities, which is the case of the majority. The military instead of protecting the land boundaries, indulges in all aspects of Pakistani life and create confusion and wean away the citizens from their natural duties. Please change the mindset and everything will be alright.
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Jun 18, 2019 12:49pm
During the match against England, when asked about his opinion as to what Hassan Ali should do to improve his bowling? Mr. Waqar Younis responded "He should generate more pace to trouble the Batsmen" - Kudos! to his insight.
They are still stick with an approach and mindset which has become obsolete decades ago. Just scroll through ICC rankings and find a bowler with over 100mph pace anywhere in the top 10.
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Jun 18, 2019 12:56pm
Fire coach, chief selector, and Captain...start with a clean slate!
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Jun 18, 2019 12:58pm
When you have someone like Inzamam as your head who refuses to wear the team uniform and is unfit and from what I hear a intimidating personality the team suffers, we need a positive people’s person with technical knowledge and lots of overseas experience, Wasim Akram.
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Jun 18, 2019 01:01pm
Stop drinking tea, everything will be fine for this nation.
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Jun 18, 2019 01:12pm
@Karachi Wala, the coach and chief selectors have been making some really strange decisions which could never be justified .. look at our test and ODI records/ratings
Team management has failed .. we lost tests to Sri Lanka and NZ in home series just because of bad planning .. and the recent ODI series against Australia and England is clear example of bad planning .. 5 years of Grant flower and our batting is still inconsistent .. and look at our below par bowling in this WC ..
In 3 years selectors are unable to identify any talented middle order batsmen for both tests and ODI .. couple of months before WC they realised that they need to identify one .. only one spinner identified and tested .. and husnain too is a recent psl find ..
After champians trophy we all were living in fools paradise .. Hope Mani brings things in order and cleans this Sethi mess
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Jun 18, 2019 01:13pm
Waqar was with them at the daawat in a Manchester household, having basically fried food of spring rolls, samosas etc.
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Jun 18, 2019 01:20pm
these were the very best available in pakistan, groom em, they will flower, abuse them and u will loose them as well. they won champions trophy after all...
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Jun 18, 2019 01:33pm
Why didn’t you teach them under your coaching. You cant suggest any thing which you haveny done it in your tenture.
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Jun 18, 2019 01:34pm
We cannot criticize Pakistan cricket team all the time. We must remember that they have convincingly beaten India in Champions trophy 2 years back.
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Jun 18, 2019 02:19pm
Instead helping Pakistan cricket these veterans choose to stay abroad and write columns on what the things needs to be improved. Why don't Waqar, Wasim and other legendary Pak cricketers come back to Pakistan and nurture domestic cricket?
I dont remember any Indian legendary player moved abroad. All are helping Indian cricket in some or other way.
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Jun 18, 2019 02:28pm
Pakistani Legendary Cricketers
--Earn Money
--Marry to any English woman
--Get citizenship in UK, US, Australia etc
--Write columns on Pakistani cricket
-----Money Matters-------------
Indian Legendary Cricketers
--Earn Money
--After Retirement, Serve domestic cricket
E.g. Rahul Dravid-- Karnataka Cricket
Ganguly-- Serving Bengal Cricket
Sachin ---Helping Maharashtra Cricket
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Jun 18, 2019 02:44pm
Worry about playing good cricket. Pakistan has not played good cricket in the recent past. Got drubbed in many series. Get the basics right and get your act together than beating any team easy.
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Jun 18, 2019 02:44pm
Don't sweat, just forget it!
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Jun 18, 2019 02:55pm
Mental toughness along with physical fitness is paramount in all World Cup matches. Furthermore, what you eat and drink, on and off the field as a player is also very important. On top of that, going to bed early, one day before the match, also provides valuable dividends on the day of match. In fact, the gentleman's game of cricket in the 21st century has become a "science" and anybody and everybody not onboard is in essence, living in a fool's paradise.
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Jun 18, 2019 02:56pm
yes, of course the fitness level of Pakistani players are not upto the international level and their fielding always let them down. Bring some new face.
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Jun 18, 2019 03:08pm
Best of luck pakistan team;comign back from this situation will be a phenomeoen and will give you immense confidence; team work, commitment, adequate preparation and a game strategy are clearly lacking; offcourse, India is one of the cup contenders and not only strong,but also professional; stlll. best wishes from an Indian; Peope can critisie; but, not beyond a point. it doesnt serve any purpose;
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Jun 18, 2019 03:34pm
Well this guy has continued flirt with team and what he did for improvement at that time.
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Jun 18, 2019 03:44pm
Problem is those who have been at the helm of affairs (like Waqar Younis) since last several years, assuming various roles to train Pakistani cricket team, they too resort to blame game instead of accepting some responsibility... they are equally responsible..
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Jun 18, 2019 03:46pm
This was just one game, many more to go. Not very long ago Pakistan had beaten India in the Champion’s Trophy Final. So relax and take it easy. This excessive obsession with India is almost like a psychological disorder. Not only in Cricket, in almost everything, Pakistan wants to be recognized as good as or better than India. Perhaps ‘that’s why they are always under pressure and feel like they are the weaker team’.
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Jun 18, 2019 03:50pm
IK please do not let any of the past coaches, managers into PCB again. They all contributed to this failure- directly or indirectly.
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Jun 18, 2019 04:11pm
Do they even have the potential to reflect on their mistakes? And then to rectify them is a tall order for asking from the present lot.
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Jun 18, 2019 04:19pm
Inzamam,Wasim, Waqar, Ramiz, Amir, they shouldn’t be working in an capacity for pcb or Pakistan. They are really are all about money.. Rashid Latif along with Shoaib Akhtar and Aaqib Jawed should be part of selection committee. Chief selector should be Misbah or Younis Khan, the man with integrity and selflessness.
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Jun 18, 2019 04:44pm
5 Points should be considered.
1- Stop drinking Tea (nicotine is bad for brain performance). Whole nation is getting sleepy because of tea.
2- No coaches required for Pakistan team. Leave decisions for Captain to bat or ball.
3- PCB create Bowling academy and appoint all coaches there.
4- PCB create Batting academy and appoint all coaches there.
5- Only physiotherapist and doctors should be with team.
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Jun 18, 2019 04:57pm
Well said Waqar Bhai...forget cricket...it is very much applicable in Corporate Life...politics....communities.
Matches will be won and lost....but if we all can take lessons in life, we will emerge successful!
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Jun 18, 2019 04:58pm
Look who is talking. Waqar Younis is known for spoiling the culture of the team himself. i the team culture is much better under the Arthur then it was under Younis. It is so easy to criticize sitting on the sidelines and after the fact. None of these critics mention anything about the culture or Sarfaraz yawning etc. This same critic ( Waqar Younis ) was a coach at one time himself , why did he not make the change he is suggesting, during his tenure?
I guarantee you that the same critics would have praised the team if it had won the game against India. While I feel we have a lot to improve , team can not be a top team overnight.
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Jun 18, 2019 05:03pm
Pakistan team clearly needs a psychologist with them in order to groom them mentally. In order for the boys to gel well they will need to accept each other as individuals first. They also need to understand that what kind of a privilege it is to represent a nation at the highest level. As most of the players come from impoverished backgrounds and mostly have been brought up with village or small town cultures they need experts help to groom themselves mentally first. Once the thinking gets straight then physical fitness can take care of itself with the right coaching staff. Otherwise they won't even know what is professional conduct at the highest of levels. If we look at our cricket legends all had groomed themselves mentally to a level that they can easily converse with anyone from a layman to president of the nation. Once they are in good mental space wins will automatically come. Then we will also not find them lingering around at sheesha cafes at odd hours pre-matches.
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Jun 18, 2019 05:31pm
Look who is talking!
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Jun 18, 2019 05:31pm
@Rehmatullah,
Agree. Cricket is a reflection of the state of nation and psyche.
Tendulkars rise mirrored India’s economic rise. This Indian team has the confidence, material and other support of an economic power in making.
Don’t blame the Pakistan players. ThNk them for the Champions trophy they won against all odds. They don’t have a home to play. Banished from the most lucrative tournament IPL. Their nation in economic shambles and political turmoil. You fellows want them to win as balm or tonic to forget your worries.
Look at them. Pity them. Support them. Work on your country first.
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Jun 18, 2019 05:33pm
Do they even have the potential to reflect on their mistakes? And then to rectify them is a tall order for asking from the present lot.
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Jun 18, 2019 06:06pm
@Raghav Sridhara, That is actually true. Pakistanis would never admit it because they have the best league in the world the PSL but not playing in the second best league of the world (IPL) is a huge loss for them. Those two months are like an annual camp for all cricketers where they learn an amazing amount of skill, science and modern cricket.
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Jun 18, 2019 06:11pm
Very same team beat England.
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Jun 18, 2019 06:20pm
All our players and politucuans are good in speaking. Not the real hard work.
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Jun 18, 2019 06:33pm
Look who's saying ? The sublime coach of disastrous era of team. .
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Jun 18, 2019 06:35pm
Btw he was also coach of Pakistan defeat against India in WC 2015
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Jun 18, 2019 07:26pm
Team culture change requires consistent effort and hard work over 10-15 years. Indian team culture change started with Saurav Ganguly in 2000 or so. So Dada can be called the father of modern Indian cricket. Pakistani players can follow India's template as far as bringing about a temperament and cultural change. Talent and technical skill wise, there is no shortage in Pakistan. Even the Pak PM is a legendary cricketer. And fitness-improvement, fielding-improvement and nepotism-reduction are some low hanging fruits that Pakistan can grab for some quick returns.
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Jun 18, 2019 07:30pm
@Straight drive, To add to that, Players from Pakistan should be participating in IPL. Like India Pakistani board should be identifying talents (no matter where they come from) and systematically working on their mental and physical skills rather that desperately throwing them to sink or swim (will not work in the current professional environment). Rekindle the domestic cricket free of corruption and politics.
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Jun 18, 2019 07:40pm
Pakistan not only lost his match to s.africa even bagladesh also defeat to pakistan.
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Jun 18, 2019 07:46pm
More brickbats are stored in future. One more loss & finished. Never a contender for semis but in destined defeat by India & that too without showing any perceivable resistance, made them look more ordinary. Forget about South Africa & New Zealand and kindly focus on matches with Bangladesh & Afghanistan because defeat by later two will make life more miserable.
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Jun 18, 2019 09:03pm
@Hindustani, I think he has more important things to,do as PM.
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Jun 18, 2019 09:10pm
The real problem is that the Pakistani culture, cricketing or otherwise, is full of in-fighting, fractions & conflict. Whether it was the 80's when Imran clashed with Miandad or 90's when Akram & Younis were not on speaking terms or today, there's no unity in the Pakistani team, much like the nation they represent.
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Jun 18, 2019 09:19pm
Nothing is working out for Pakistan on any front. Lowest point in Pakistan history with no prospects. Just darkness.
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Jun 18, 2019 09:23pm
Nothing is lost...Even now if they can muster courage and win all the other World Cup matches they can get back into the game...
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Jun 18, 2019 10:09pm
@Guru, you didn't get the message Waqar was trying to give. He is telling Pakistan to find a team instead of few individual talents.
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Jun 18, 2019 10:11pm
In the past Pak operated with two world class pacers, one more Amir in the Pak team would have brought down Indian score to 260-270 ie more wickets and slower run rate
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Jun 18, 2019 10:13pm
I think its not about Players its all about the top level who is telling them how to move forward your inning... Look at the BNG match with WI, they proved it even after playing 2nd inning.
We really have to think about it... Let the players play their Natural Game, and adjust them as per the situation.
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Jun 18, 2019 10:30pm
@Tariq, Bangladesh also chased a very big target.
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Jun 18, 2019 10:48pm
@Hindustani, let’s keep it to game only and enjoy. Other side has different story! Enjoy cricket.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:21pm
You cannot say both that we should have bat first and our bowlers did not pitch correctly meaning if we have properly bowled then India may be bowled out under 200 score. The real issue is execution of a plan which our players don't follow and we fail match after match.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:26pm
Pakistan last glory in WC was back in 1999, and our demise stars after then when we lost final to Aussies. Does Mr Waqar forgot the WC 2003 and 2007. The result of those 2 tournaments were worst than any other last 3 WC campaigns including this one. There is no silver bullet to solve this problem except talk common sense, work hard and keep trying. And yes don’t use the word talent, we are average like most of other humans in this world. This allusion of us being talented is demise of our nation.
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Jun 19, 2019 12:38am
@Shankar,
Please save your sympathies for another day and most of these comments from our good neighbors reflect lot of arrogance. Yes, India is doing better than Pakistan but I can give you thousand reasons which not necessary you will agree but the bottom line is that this is normal natures cycle and we Pakistani needs to learn from our mistakes and come back stronger. I can guarantee you will see us humble when Pakistan will IA be doing better than rest of the nations specifically India, so stay put and within yourself, please. We all know the history who ruled who.
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Jun 19, 2019 12:45am
Please explain what ‘team culture’ is ?
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Jun 19, 2019 01:11am
I guess our team had the most pathetic performance in 2003 WC under your captaincy.
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Jun 19, 2019 01:24am
@Syed Qutub Ahmed,
Not playing home cricket is not an excuse. Pakistan landed in England earlier than any other country to get acquainted with the climate and pitches and still losing. Pakistan has Dubai as home ground but still lost to India and Bangladesh in Asia cup. With this team, you can not win anywhere unless opposition is having worst day in the field.
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Jun 19, 2019 02:20am
Whenever somebody say "We had good sides in the 1990s, but now I think this India team intimidates Pakistan" it simply makes me laugh. I think Waqar don't remember World Cup '92, '96, '99 matches against India. Even Mini World Cup 1985 Pakistan was beaten by India in finals.
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Jun 19, 2019 03:08am
As a Indian I believe Pakistan's decision of having 2 spinners was horrible. They should have strengthen the middle order by bringing in Harris Sohail who can also bowl. Also missing an all rounder who can bowl medium pace like Hardik which can be helpful in seaming conditions in England. All the best for the rest of the matches.
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Jun 19, 2019 03:26am
They just needed to bat first. Outcome would have been different. And Imran Khan advised them before the game but no one listens. Pak team is actually quite good. They should have comfortably beaten Australia. The better team lost. Need some mental strength and professionalism.
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Jun 19, 2019 03:58am
Definitely the team culture has to change. They do have enormous talent. The 2017 Champions Trophy Final was a prime example. However, I do not think the Pakistani team is intimidated by India. If the match had been close, they would have put up a better fight.
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Jun 19, 2019 09:42am
Everyone will forget about this match, when Pakistan will beat SA in next match..
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Jun 19, 2019 10:04am
@Ahmed Basha, spot on, brother. You aptly analysed.
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Jun 19, 2019 10:13am
Best and honorable solution is to have Pak players in IPL. Everyone is learning and making big money, why not our brothers and neighbors? Down with politics..
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Jun 19, 2019 10:34am
You claim there is talent but for any onlooker it seems in very short supply.
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Jun 19, 2019 11:13am
Pakistan needs to change culture in all sphere of life not only in cricket.
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Jun 19, 2019 12:04pm
@Siddhartha, that’s because they can afford to live abroad. Every Pakistani without exception does not want to stay in Pakistan and given an opportunity legal or illegal would sell his right hand to go anywhere and live outside Pakistan. That is why they are all abroad writing opinions and articles and giving unsolicited advise.
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Jun 19, 2019 12:34pm
@Veer Singh , "The real problem is that the Pakistani culture, cricketing or otherwise, is full of in-fighting, fractions & conflict." All nations face the same problems, but some still thrive and some don't. The difference is that some find a red line not to cross in the process and some don't. This red line is defined by the affected people. The cricket lovers do not define a red line so they never know when it is crossed until they lose the players. If you pressurize the players to play as a team they will do it despite their differences. I had observed that the task given to the players was to get rid of Sarfraz, so they did. Now we are complaining that Sarfraz is still here but the team lost!!!
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Jun 19, 2019 01:07pm
Why ‘to match India’?
Why not ‘just to be good’, ‘to attain world standard’, or ‘just be world champions’.
This India fixation has got to go!
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Jun 19, 2019 01:08pm
@Rehmatullah, Sir, you just hit the nail on the head!
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Jun 19, 2019 01:09pm
@Guru, nope, the two Ws are of the past. Just fix Pakistan, every thing else will sort itself out.
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Jun 19, 2019 01:27pm
Like in hockey, Pakistan is becoming a minnow in cricket
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Jun 19, 2019 01:36pm
@SA, ‘We all know history and who ruled who’ - the trouble is that you live so far in the history that you do not know ‘what feeds now’. History will not provide you champions now. You can regurgitate history for times immemorial, you will have to work for now.
Look at the shape of the Pakistani nation now.
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Jun 19, 2019 03:26pm
Pakistanis need to learn to be modest & level headed first. Many other shortcomings would then follow the rectification route. No point getting carried away by one's praise. With time, we will have to live it.
Remember that the Indian society has changed and so are their proficiencies in many sports. Present day India can field at least 2 teams in the world Cup. Reserve & not selected players list speaks for itself.
Pakistanis non competitive game was the most disappointing.
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Jun 19, 2019 05:59pm
"but now I think this India team intimidates Pakistan."....India doesn't intimidate Pakistan....Over the years Indian team emphasized on good training, physical fitness in all spheres of cricket and has become very professional in their approach. BCCI has inducted retired cricketers into team management.
PCB management is bad....highly politicized, no professional management. Selection of players is not entirely based on their professional credentials. With no international teams touring Pakistan, no exposure to competitive IPL has affected their performance...
The vast difference in quality of teams is what intimidates Pakistan.
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Jun 19, 2019 06:09pm
Don't be surprised if the team loses to Afghanistan
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Jun 19, 2019 09:51pm
I have always admired Pakistani pace bowling. Big fan of Imran and Akram but now Pakistan is no more an exciting team. They should concentrated more on Cricket and less on non-cricket activities such as parties, prayers etc. They need to be professional disciplined team.
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