Pakistan will grant consular access to Indian spy Jadhav: FO
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The Foreign Office (FO) on Thursday announced that Pakistan will grant consular access to Indian spy Kulbushan Jadhav.
"As a responsible state, Pakistan will grant consular access to Commander Kulbushan Jadhav according to Pakistani laws, for which modalities are being worked out," a press release issued by the FO read.
Timeline: How the Kulbhushan Jadhav saga unfolded
According to the statement, the decision was made in pursuant to the verdict of the International Court of Justice (ICJ).
"Commander Kulbushan Jadhav has been informed of his rights under Article 36, paragraph 1(b) of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations," the FO added.
In its verdict, the ICJ had ruled that Jadhav be allowed consular access immediately and asked Pakistan to ensure “effective review and reconsideration of his conviction and sentences”.
The ICJ, however, had rejected all other remedies sought by India, which included the annulment of the military court decision convicting Jadhav, restricting Pakistan from executing the sentence, securing Jadhav's release and ordering his return to India.
In a post shared on Twitter earlier in the day, Prime Minister Imran Khan had said: "Appreciate ICJ’s decision not to acquit, release & return Commander Kulbhushan Jadhav to India."
"He is guilty of crimes against the people of Pakistan. Pakistan shall proceed further as per law," the premier had added.
Case background
Jadhav — a serving commander of the Indian Navy associated with Indian spy agency Research and Analysis Wing — was arrested on March 3, 2016, from Balochistan on allegations of espionage and terrorism.
In his subsequent trial at a military court, Jadhav had confessed to his involvement in terrorist plots.
The spy was subsequently sentenced to death in 2017. However, India insisted that Jadhav was not a spy and said he was kidnapped from Iran.
On April 10, 2017, Army Chief Gen Qamar Bajwa had endorsed the death penalty for Jadhav. In June 2017, the Indian spy had filed a mercy petition against the death penalty, in which he again confessed to his involvement in terrorist activities.
However, before Pakistani authorities could make a final decision, the International Court of Justice (ICJ), after being approached by India, had ordered a stay in his execution through an interim order.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:07am
Pakistan must grant the counsellor to access to Kulbhushan with foolproof arrangements..
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Jul 19, 2019 12:26am
But you won !! Why ??
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Jul 19, 2019 12:27am
Yes , please give him consular access and an open trail. Let the world see how Indian agencies support terrorism through BLA and other groups inside Pakistan. Then proceed with the punishment if he is found guilty ( which he most likely is).
Pakistan should be ready to play the long game.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:27am
Do Pakistanis get dizzy from the amount of spin in their media everyday?
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Jul 19, 2019 12:28am
Out of self proclaimed large heartedness I guess !!
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Jul 19, 2019 12:32am
This practically means India won.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:32am
This is all India has been asking for a long time. Pakistan could have saved its face at ICJ
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Jul 19, 2019 12:41am
That's all they'll get. He will be resentenced to death in a military court in accordance with the Vienna convention. I wonder when the sentence comes, how will India spin it as a victory?
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Jul 19, 2019 12:42am
Responsible step or ICJ order
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Jul 19, 2019 12:42am
Pakistan must understand, punishing yadav ji is not solution, they have to release sooner or after
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Jul 19, 2019 12:44am
The main verdict is in 42 pages, if there is no patience to go through 42 pages, they should go through 7-pages press release, where every point is in India’s favour,
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Jul 19, 2019 12:44am
Granting consular access will further open the case and activities of Indian terrorist to the world.it's a good move and would prove a blessing in disguise as now whole world would witness Indian involvement in regional terrorism.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:46am
in exchange for what?
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Jul 19, 2019 12:51am
His sentence should be turned into life. Remember, if he's executed, Pakistani spies on the Indian side may see the same fate.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:52am
Spying is now a fact of international affairs / relations and even the closest of allies, like US & Israel, US & UK, etc spy on each other. When spies are caught, they are quietly exchanged / returned without creating so much fuss and noise. Watch the movie 'A Bridge of Spies' starring Tom Hanks. It is the countries who indulge in spying and are at fault and not the poor individuals who are just following orders and a sense of patriotism drilled into them.
So India and Pakistan should simply follow suit and quuietly return / exchange each others' spies when caught instead of indulging in international tamashaa. Unless, that spy is wanted for crimes other than espionage, like robbery, murder, rape, etc.
Prosecuting and punishing one spy from any country for spying, will not prevent that country from sending spies in the future.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:52am
Plead Pakistan to conduct the trial in public and expose the terrorism by India.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:53am
Providing counselor access, means that the world will get to know how India supports state terrorism. First it was only Jadhav being convicted, now it is the whole of India being convicted. This is getting more interesting everyday.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:55am
@Combaticus, pakistan has no proof against kulbhushan..Long back accepted by pakistan minister.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:57am
@Aftab khan, It it is good move then why you were not allowing consular access first instance.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:57am
Mr jadhav is innocent.
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Jul 19, 2019 01:04am
@theRealSalaria, also 40 crore pakistani rupees which they paid to their lawyer.
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Jul 19, 2019 01:05am
@Imran A., then why did you guys not think to grant access earlier
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Jul 19, 2019 01:05am
@TrueFacts, do u have any military court ad of now?
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Jul 19, 2019 01:05am
This is all India demand...
He will be realese soon.
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Jul 19, 2019 01:05am
Love how Indians would buy anything from their media! Is he going to be released? no. Has he been proven innocent? NO, is he going to escape the punishment? NO. So to all Indian, celebrate your so called “victory” while he gets punished in Pakistan for his crime. What a joke you guys are
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Jul 19, 2019 01:06am
@Aftab khan, so why u dint do before itself?
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Jul 19, 2019 01:06am
Big win by India..
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Jul 19, 2019 01:07am
@GK, but please dont hire arshad malik as ur judge
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Jul 19, 2019 01:10am
@GK, There will never be a public trial
there is no proof against him
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Jul 19, 2019 01:18am
@TrueFacts, firstly India has long been asking for counselor access. Pakistan's stand was since KJ is spy and hence counsellor access won't be given. Now, ICJ ruled in favour of counselor access, that means Pakistan cannot deny the basic rights and ICJ is not fully presented evidence to prove KJ is a spy. Secondly, death sentence was not accepted and Pakistan was asked to review the trial. If death sentence is valid on evidence, ICJ would have only asked for mercy to convert the verdict to life sentence.
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Jul 19, 2019 01:21am
Had India not taken it to ICJ, Kubushan might have been given jail term rather than execution but India spoiled its own case.
'On April 10, 2017, Army Chief Gen Qamar Bajwa had endorsed the death penalty for Jadhav. In June 2017, the Indian spy had filed a mercy petition against the death penalty, in which he again confessed to his involvement in terrorist activities.'
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Jul 19, 2019 01:21am
Finally after being commanded by ICJ
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Jul 19, 2019 01:22am
Have 100 cameras and audios in a very small room when Indian embassy guy comes to meet. And have two way mirrors all round.
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Jul 19, 2019 01:27am
Stop living this lie let him go
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Jul 19, 2019 01:30am
@Combaticus,
Pakistan had a great chance to use ICJ as a platform and present evidence. Yet all it produced was a passport.
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Jul 19, 2019 01:34am
@The Joker, Spying may be a norm but this is a state sponsored terrorist. His activities have cost hundreds of innocent lives.
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Jul 19, 2019 01:38am
Time to have a transparent retrial
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Jul 19, 2019 01:38am
@Syv, why you are twisting the facts, there is nothing change except he is given access to a counselor. Please tell me what else is changed? The fact is he is still captured by the PAK army, Pakistani law will decide his fate. Look if he has done bad deeds he must be punished! It is time to grow up!
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Jul 19, 2019 01:40am
@Dr. Rafiq Khan, “in exchange for what?”
No exchange. ICJ has ordered this.
@M.Saeed
What do you mean by foolproof arrangements? He will be allowed to meet the consulate in privacy as per requirements of Vienna convention.
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Jul 19, 2019 01:42am
Doesn’t have a choice now as India won the ruling
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Jul 19, 2019 01:56am
@The Joker, understand but the situation is different here, he is responsible of killing many Pakistani. According to Pakistani law he should received death penalty, nothing less!
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Jul 19, 2019 02:07am
if they had done that before lot of money could have been saved in icj
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Jul 19, 2019 02:12am
remove the confessional video made under duress and poof alll proof vanishes
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Jul 19, 2019 02:17am
@Shubs, Not as much as Indians do from their media.
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Jul 19, 2019 02:19am
Time to carry out sentence in accordance with Pakistani law.
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Jul 19, 2019 02:23am
@TrueFacts, "That's all they'll get. He will be resentenced to death in a military court in accordance with the Vienna convention. I wonder when the sentence comes, how will India spin it as a victory?"
It looks that you predetermine everything even without looking at all the facts. That's why you will now have to pay almost $6 billion to the mining company as compensation and PCB had to pay legal fees of BCCI lawyers when you dragged them to court. Hanging Jadhav is easier said than done. It was the case before and it is case now.
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Jul 19, 2019 02:24am
@Syv, Some need to grow up
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Jul 19, 2019 02:26am
@Shubs, No, but we do get to celebrate our media for brining us the truth, unlike the Indian media
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Jul 19, 2019 02:38am
@Shubs, I think you should pose this question internally i.e. to Indians. Its better suited there!
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Jul 19, 2019 03:08am
Pakistan will grant consular access to Indian spy Jadhav as mandated by the court.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:12am
Had Pakistan any tangible evidence against Jadhav, it would have for sure tried him in a civilian court under glare of media but instead it chose a military court with no transparency. The moment they released confessional videos in public, it was clear to everyone that it is an exercise to please domestic audience. No where in the world such videos are released by Govt handling sensitive cases which are in courts.
I don't even understand why no one in Pakistan dared to challenge the immaturity of using confessions while in custody while convicting him and sentence him to death. No one also questioned that if he is sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan happening all over, why no accomplice has been caught ? No one asked a question why terror attacks still continued even after his arrest?
Now this trial will be watched closely and Pakistan's judicial environment and system will also be visible.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:15am
Probably his death sentence will be converted to life in prinson. He will serve about 5 to 10 years and then released just like other spies were released.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:25am
The court has ruled 15 to 1 against Pakistan, on most points.
The Court finds that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, in the matter of the detention and trial of an Indian national, Mr. Kulbhushan Sudhir Jadhav, has acted in breach of the obligations incumbent on it under Article 36 of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:30am
@Aftab khan, : Did you have to spend lot o $$ and time to go to ICJ? You could've given consular access in the first place if you believe what you wrote.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:41am
Well. Does it matter?. Indians heard the news of his death sentence on news. Now, their "counselor" will hear it live
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Jul 19, 2019 03:44am
@GK, “Plead Pakistan to conduct the trial in public and expose the terrorism by India.”
Why do you think consular access and legal representation was denied to Jadhav fir 3 years?
Why do you think an open trial was not conducted earlier the way India did with Kasab?
Why is India demanding consular access and right to defend Jadhav?
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Jul 19, 2019 03:53am
@Shubs, I think you have better spinners in your media I guess, who instead of spinning, a lot of times completely change the story so enjoy.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:56am
According to Vienna convention spies don't get consular access. The court allowed the access that mean court didn't accepted the spy claim. Court wants review about his conviction means he being not a spy he should be tried in our legal court. ICJ suspended his death sentence. Our people misread ICJ.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:57am
It is ok to grant access to the consular but keep an eye on him.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:59am
@M. Saeed, while the Indian staff intimidate his family. Reveal his crimes and burn the Indian story to the ground.
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Jul 19, 2019 04:10am
@The Joker, Kulbhushan I don’t know whether he’s a spy or not was arrested and presented on media to score political points. If Pakistan did not dig a hole, it would have been possible to quietly release him. After all any Pakistani spy caught or made to defect by India will meet the same fate.
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Jul 19, 2019 04:10am
In the US, if the police arrest you without reading the Miranda Rights, then the courts will have to release you immediately. The Vienna Convention is something similar and Pakistan did not advise Jhadav of his rights during his arrest in 2016 and for all technical purposes and by law need to release Jhadav immediately.
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Jul 19, 2019 04:19am
@Syv,
India wants Jadhav free. But didn't happen. Therefore Pakistan won.
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Jul 19, 2019 04:24am
@Shubs, We are from it and not act like you, not take any thing hands down from our politicians or the government like RSS hate Pakistan propaganda which is in full throttle. Read comment in Indian media and if you have any sense it should make anybody dizzy?
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Jul 19, 2019 04:43am
Final awakening. But whey so late. Could have avoided ICJ long back instead of getting orders to do so. Having problem reading Vienna Convention rules.
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Jul 19, 2019 05:05am
Could it not been granted earlier?
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Jul 19, 2019 05:08am
@Imran A., Where were so wiseness earlier?
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Jul 19, 2019 05:10am
why u agree only after international court verdict?
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Jul 19, 2019 05:10am
Well done Pakistan consular access will further expose the Indian barbarism. ICJ rejected Indian demand of release return acquittal of Jadhav. Indians probably haven’t read the report. Suspension of the sentence is not stopping it. They have asked Pakistan to review and reconsider the decision according to the law of Pakistan not ICJ. Your media is making star plus drama news
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Jul 19, 2019 05:38am
@eyes ears open, unfortunately, they don't know to read. Government takes advantage of this and does propaganda. Same thing happens in North Korea.
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Jul 19, 2019 05:45am
for those who are confused court did not say the punishment is unfair. Court said he was treated poorly but the judgement is still standing. He will get counsellor access but doesnt mean his judgement will change. India only won based on human rights. India did not prove that he is innocent and must be released.
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Jul 19, 2019 05:48am
ICJ verdict be followed in letter & spirit. Recently Pak opened the sky for Indian flights, the trade is OK, the TAPI is progress, the Afghan transit trade with India is going to open soon. Others irritants be tackled one by one. Let’s be optimistic and positive.
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Jul 19, 2019 05:50am
Had Pakistan accepted India's request and granted consular access Pakistan would have saved Millions of Dollars it spent on contesting the case at the ICJ.
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Jul 19, 2019 05:50am
@Shubs, Yes but not like Indian media not there yet
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Jul 19, 2019 05:51am
India will demand a CIvilian trial. Folks the case has been decided, India doesnt take years to decide yhey just hang them at Dehli Fort
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Jul 19, 2019 05:51am
@Syv, But he will be remain in Pakistan.s custody
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Jul 19, 2019 05:54am
Wasn't this the ONLY thing India had been demanding ever since Kulbhushan was arrested?
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Jul 19, 2019 05:55am
@Respected Indian, So he come to watch cricket match in Pakistan without visa?
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Jul 19, 2019 05:55am
@Syv, has he landed?
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Jul 19, 2019 06:01am
@M. Saeed, absolutely no keep crying
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Jul 19, 2019 06:11am
@Dr. Rafiq Khan, Nothing.
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Jul 19, 2019 06:16am
@Combaticus, "Yes , please give him consular access and an open trail. Let the world see how Indian agencies support terrorism... " But first apologise for not respecting the Geneva Convention decisions. Conduct the trial transparently and see what happens.
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Jul 19, 2019 06:20am
@Imran A., In fact the world will now know the truth about his arrest and conviction which is likley to be far from what has been claimed so far.
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Jul 19, 2019 06:23am
nothing will happen to him. planted evidences are not going to work this time.
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Jul 19, 2019 06:24am
If Pakistan was doing everything right, why ICJ forced to do this. If the access was granted in the first place, there was no need for ICJ intervention. Now on the top pakistan has to review his sentencing in an "effective manner", which essentially means the original trial was not as per the law and just short of annuling original trial.
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Jul 19, 2019 06:36am
India will prove he is a retired Navy officer then consular will tell the real story about him to the world.
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Jul 19, 2019 06:39am
Why does the government need to say “As a responsible state” when acting as per law? If you are, act! True responsible states dont have to say.World knows it.
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Jul 19, 2019 06:41am
@TrueFacts, Why conclude so fast! Dont believe in independance of your justice system?
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Jul 19, 2019 06:45am
@The Joker,rightly said ....but wrongly named you are not the joker....;)
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Jul 19, 2019 06:47am
Big diplomatic win for India
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Jul 19, 2019 06:47am
What do you mean by "Pakistan will grant.."? It should be "Pakistan will have (forced) to grant...by order of ICJ"
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Jul 19, 2019 06:50am
@Combaticus, if you can't play a long game... and still ask for it is like self conviction......
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Jul 19, 2019 06:51am
@Imran A., "Providing counselor access, means that the world will get to know how India supports state terrorism. "
Or it will tell the world that there is no actionable evidence.
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Jul 19, 2019 06:51am
@Respected Indian, That is not correct. There is a trail of his activities inside Pakistan and recording of his telephone conversations which lead to his arrest. What was a serving Indian officer doing in Baluchistan ? The spin by Indian media is dramatic - he was kidnapped from Iran? Please give me a break ! Any country will try to shift the blame when caught red handed.
ICJ turned down the demand by India to release him and annul his execution verdict ( they only gave him a stay and asked for a review). His case will be re-access as per Pakistani law and in a military court. Even civilian Pakistanis have been punished in military courts - there is a constitutional amendment. So why India thinks Jadhav case will be sent to a civilian court given the extreme nature of charges against him? To summarize - don't start planning Jadhav welcome party, he is going to stay in Pakistan for a long time. The best you can hope for is we won't hang him for killing Pakistani nationals.
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Jul 19, 2019 06:54am
One mans life can do enormously damage a countries life(wel being, water treaty....etc)......
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Jul 19, 2019 07:00am
Follow icj verdict.
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Jul 19, 2019 07:04am
This just to show to Trump.
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Jul 19, 2019 07:05am
@Respected Indian, Do you have proof of his innocence ?
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Jul 19, 2019 07:05am
"As a responsible state, Pakistan will grant consular access to Commander Kulbushan Jadhav according to Pakistani laws, for which modalities are being worked out," India has been asking for it since many years, was Pakistan not a responsible state then?
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Jul 19, 2019 07:06am
Do you have proof of innocence ?
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Jul 19, 2019 07:12am
The decisions of ICJ have wrongly stated by Pakistani media and PM to their people just to hide from shame...but it is also a content of ICJ.
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Jul 19, 2019 07:23am
@Aftab khan, He was captured from Iran and passport which pak is showing forged by pak millitary thats the thing which india will show
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Jul 19, 2019 07:25am
@Imran A., not a single proof of terrorism produced in court
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Jul 19, 2019 07:25am
@The Joker, hope you agree that every case has its own considerations. A spy collecting some information cannot be treated like one instigating violence that leads to murder of countless innocent people.
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Jul 19, 2019 07:30am
Unconditional release of Kulbhushan Jadhav by Pakistan without any precondition will only add to its credibility internationally.
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Jul 19, 2019 07:31am
Pakistan has been hailing ICJ verdict as a victory for Pakistan. It is interesting to note that one ICJ judge who was a Pakistani dissented. If the verdict was in favour of Pakistan, why did he dissent? Also, the actions required by the verdict were all to be done by Pakistan as to stay on the death sentence, a proper retrial, proper Consular access to Jadhav etc. Only request by India that was denied was to free Jadhav, which was in reality not expected to be granted anyway. So, it is not a victory for Pakistan by any stretch of imagination.
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Jul 19, 2019 07:41am
Do'nt call Mr. Jadhav yet a spy. Let all hear him speak without coercion and give a fair trial under civilian court with consular access. Apart from confession under duress if any evidence, proof exist, which seems to be non existent should be shared. Or alternatively Pakistan may offer a deal with India to trade with Col. Habib.
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Jul 19, 2019 07:45am
@Vivek Sharma, “Pakistan must understand, punishing yadav ji is not solution, they have to release sooner or after”
Until unless he is a Fisherman, or some one who walks the cattle close to the border, he is not going back home. He is the high profile terrorist with blood on his hands. I have seen dead bodies of kids on the streets of Karachi and highways of Balochistan. He is not going anywhere brother. He is a Yadav, not a Raymond Davis that we cant keep him.
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Jul 19, 2019 07:46am
@The Joker, “Spying is now a fact of international affairs / relations and even the closest of allies, like US & Israel, US & UK, etc spy on each other. When spies are caught, they are quietly exchanged / returned without creating so much fuss and noise. Watch the movie 'A Bridge of Spies' starring Tom Hanks. It is the countries who indulge in spying and are at fault and not the poor individuals who are just following orders and a sense of patriotism drilled into them“
Spies of the cold war wont spread terrorism. Yadav did that exactly. He is not going any where. He's a Yadav not a Raymond Davis that we cant keep.
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Jul 19, 2019 07:57am
@Imran A., Then why didn't you give it earlier? That is all what our government asking before going to ICJ.
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Jul 19, 2019 08:10am
Let’s see if Iran will provide any evidence or will take anyone’s side during re-trial. It that happens that will be quite interesting.
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Jul 19, 2019 08:18am
@The Joker, Correct!
If India has owned him as spy from the beginning, there would not have been so fuss.
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Jul 19, 2019 08:23am
@Imran A., If that is your opinion that by providing access, the world will know of India's this and that, why did you not grant it earlier when India asked it in the first place ?
Or you had to pay the expenses ? As your government can not take a decision without wasting public money.
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Jul 19, 2019 08:24am
@Aftab khan, it could be other way round. Till now only we know what government of Pakistan and their agencies say which may not be whole truth. Any statement given by accuse in the captivity is not admissible in the court of law in any country including Pakistan unless it is supported by proof gathered by investigating agencies. Let Kulbhushan Jadhav put his points in court which may also be truth. If Pakistan have courage initiate Jadhav's case in the civilian court with full legal support to him arranged by the Indian consulate. The unfolding of real story is begin now.
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Jul 19, 2019 08:28am
@M.Azad, /Spying may be a norm but this is a state sponsored terrorist. His activities have cost hundreds of innocent lives/ that's your version of story. Let the world listen to him. If Pakistan have courage let his trial be done in the open civilian court with full legal support arranged by Indian consulate.
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Jul 19, 2019 08:34am
Does it mean that Pakistan was unaware of its law forgiving consular access so far, and now they will be finding out the laws for that?
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Jul 19, 2019 08:35am
Indian victory in ICJ is now visible!!!
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Jul 19, 2019 08:43am
The 'responsible state' had to be told by the ICJ. Stop giving a spin to the verdict. Many of India's demands might have been rejected. But court has clearly spelled that Pakistan failed to follow due process as per the laws.
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Jul 19, 2019 08:51am
@M&m, pl. see BBC report
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Jul 19, 2019 08:52am
Pakistan could have saved 20crore of lawyer fee if they hv done it earlier
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Jul 19, 2019 08:53am
This is what India was asking since the beginning. By refusing fair trial and counsular access, unnecessarily Pakistan invited international attention. Wasted huge money and time.
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Jul 19, 2019 09:00am
Thankyou so much .Pl also think of sending him back. India will definitely reciprocate with high profile equivalent exchange. Let this be the beginning of good will steps between these two warring nations.
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Jul 19, 2019 09:02am
So it took a good 3 years and an ICJ verdict for Pak Fo to realise what Article 36, paragraph 1(b) of the Vienna Convention.. and then they passed on the info to Kulbhusan...good lord..
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Jul 19, 2019 09:14am
@Aftab khan, I am afraid it will open you to charges of kidnapping and that is the reason the trial was conducted in a secret and non transparent manner. We will now see the fun.
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Jul 19, 2019 09:23am
Why the "responsible state" didn't do it before?
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Jul 19, 2019 09:29am
However, before Pakistani authorities could make a final decision, the International Court of Justice (ICJ), after being approached by India, had ordered a stay
What is final decision when execution has already been ordered
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Jul 19, 2019 09:29am
@M.Azad, Proofs are ot there as acknowledge by your minister aldo. Only speaking on tv channel won t work.
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Jul 19, 2019 09:31am
Another great win for India !!
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Jul 19, 2019 09:32am
@Karachi King, No, he has been arreseted by ISI and terrorist nexus from Iran.
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Jul 19, 2019 09:34am
@TrueFacts,
This case has to be tried in civil courts. That is why ICJ specifically mentioned Peshawar high court in the judgement as a precedent for setting aside military judgements based on malice.
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Jul 19, 2019 09:36am
Responsible state?
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Jul 19, 2019 09:37am
@M&m,
He is on the way to be released dear man. Pakistan has no other option.
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Jul 19, 2019 09:38am
@Lahori Kid,
If you want to know the truth listen to the judgement being read out. Then you will understand what hit Pakistan.
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Jul 19, 2019 09:39am
In the end Sri khulbhusan ji will be exchanged for col Habib!!!
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Jul 19, 2019 09:41am
Pakistan claims it is a victory for them. But ehe world media says its a setback for Pakistan. Whom to beleive
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Jul 19, 2019 09:47am
@TrueFacts,
There will be consequences. India still believes he is innocent.
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Jul 19, 2019 10:13am
@Syv, - then India shall ask for his release soon and court expenses as well
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Jul 19, 2019 10:14am
If he were really a spy-cum-terrorist, would India have gone to ICJ and allowed Pakistan to produce evidence of his activities to the world?
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Jul 19, 2019 10:17am
@M.Mian, providing proof of guilt lies with Pakistan. Per natural international laws, each is innocent TILL proven guilty.
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Jul 19, 2019 10:35am
The verdict went against Pakistan 15-1. Please read page no. 7 of the total 42 page judgement for better understanding about who won and who lost.
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Jul 19, 2019 10:39am
@Aftab khan, Why were u reluctant earlier if that is going to happen ?
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Jul 19, 2019 10:42am
@Nasir, Pls read Page no 7 of the verdict. You will be clear. What India asked and what we got is very clear.
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Jul 19, 2019 10:46am
WHY? Again u turn.
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Jul 19, 2019 10:52am
@Shubs, Do you?
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Jul 19, 2019 10:55am
Kulbhushan from hariyana india and now election in hariyana hence it's good move by india thereafter ???
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Jul 19, 2019 11:00am
Now You cant hang an innocent man, nor you can release him, another catch-22 for pakistani govt.
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Jul 19, 2019 11:03am
caught the tiger's tail. No escape.
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Jul 19, 2019 11:03am
How handsome he looks
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Jul 19, 2019 11:05am
@Changez Khan, "It is ok to grant access to the consular but keep an eye on him."
Pakistan is not doing any favor. It has been instructed by ICJ to do so. If the verdict says, you can keep an eye on him, you can .If it doesn't, then you can't.
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Jul 19, 2019 11:13am
Hope this time the kidnapped civilian will be freed soon if the judgment is fair unlike the PMLN case in pressure.
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Jul 19, 2019 11:20am
@TrueFacts, you already declared death penalty and said no access to Jadhav. Now you put on hold death penalty and giving access to Jadhav! If you had won, why this?
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Jul 19, 2019 11:26am
@Karachi King, He was kidnapped from Iran.
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Jul 19, 2019 11:32am
@Imran A., Then why were u not giving counsellor access before?.
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Jul 19, 2019 11:36am
@TrueFacts, It won't , all the forged proofs will be shattered in case which will be ultimately go to ICJ again since your retrial will be again questioned. You simply do not have any proofs to prove him what you want to.That's reason you went ahead to hang him.We know it's long drawn battle and with little hopes , but keep it in mind you will have pay it in big way as you will be economically drowned and completely isolated from the world.
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Jul 19, 2019 11:50am
But why now?
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Jul 19, 2019 11:50am
@point of view, They wont do it. and we all know why
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Jul 19, 2019 11:54am
@M.Mian, he has done nothing .So there is no chance to provide evidence..
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Jul 19, 2019 12:04pm
@M.Mian, where was he abducted from?
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Jul 19, 2019 12:09pm
So , whose victory is it ??
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Jul 19, 2019 12:12pm
Of course you will what choice does pakistan have
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Jul 19, 2019 12:13pm
Never forget over 2000 innocent Pakistani civilians lost their lives due to kubushan yadev state sponsored terrorism.
'"He is guilty of crimes against the people of Pakistan. Pakistan shall proceed further as per law," the premier had added.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:14pm
@Syv, Because according to ICJ, after review Pakistan can still hang him, as per original decision.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:17pm
@Aftab khan, How come your opinion suddenly changed after ICJ verdict?
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Jul 19, 2019 12:18pm
@Balochis, OK, After Grant access, brief review and then carry on with execution. So what changed. Nothing.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:18pm
@M&m, why Pakistan granted consular access "now" why not "2 years before" under Pakistan law as per this article ?
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Jul 19, 2019 12:18pm
As usual an u turn, but so soon. The chest thumping proclamation of victory vanished in a day. If only, we, the Pakistan citizens had read even the 7 point / 7 pages of the order, would have understood the actual verdict. Now besides counsular accessible we have give him a lawyer of his choise and the case has to go for retrial.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:19pm
@fairplay, if you could, you would have done so already. The case was in a non transparent trial for a reason. Cooked up pakistanis stories don't work in the real world
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Jul 19, 2019 12:23pm
@Imran A., then why pakistan didn't provide from the start, sherlock? Are you guys for real this thick?
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Jul 19, 2019 12:28pm
I believe India would take away him safely from the Pakistan during the next 2-3 years.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:29pm
@M&m, i think the joke is on you.please have patience and see who gets exposed.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:29pm
indians are dreaming again!!
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Jul 19, 2019 12:33pm
@theRealSalaria, Exactly, you nailed it in the center brother.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:47pm
@Nasir, If there is ANY evidence
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Jul 19, 2019 12:48pm
Pakistan has to comply all instructions given by ICJ otherwise India will go to court again.
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Jul 19, 2019 12:49pm
@M.Mian, Any proof of guilt?
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Jul 19, 2019 12:52pm
@Adnan 3, Yes! 15 Judges supported Pakistan and 1 against! You won! 15-1
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Jul 19, 2019 01:01pm
Pakistan becomes a responsible nation when it is cornered.
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Jul 19, 2019 01:06pm
@M.Azad, where is the proof? Evidence please!
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Jul 19, 2019 01:08pm
@munsaf, htey have reason to dream and to celebrate too!
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Jul 19, 2019 01:16pm
Without question the merit of the case, why Pakistan was so ignorant that consular access has to be given in any case... and why did they deny it in first case.... Now with ICJ decision, case will be retried and so start over all again. Pakistan in international forums just becomes a laughing stock by their acts like these... cases or arbitration.
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Jul 19, 2019 01:36pm
so it needed ICJ's intervention to make Pakistan realize that is a responsible state. What can I say!
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Jul 19, 2019 01:42pm
@Zak, can you guys afford for 100 cams with the current state of economy
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Jul 19, 2019 02:33pm
Confessing the crime in captivity of hostile country is not an achievement and can't be taken as evidence.
Anybody you take and record statement the way you want, because everybody knows how captives are treated in hostile countries.
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Jul 19, 2019 02:44pm
If pakistan ready for it earlier then it will save a lots of money spent on costly lawyer and this cases. By this millions of money forex can be increased.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:03pm
Can't blame Pakistan. After all the ICJ ruling was in English and not Urdu.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:18pm
Not will but have to.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:21pm
It is not pakistan that is giving the access. It is the ICJ that has ordered pakistan to do so after denying it in the first place.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:34pm
Welcome to the club and club-house of responsible failed-states.
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Jul 19, 2019 04:01pm
@Zak if there is overwhelming evidence against why did court ask the sentence to be reviewed and ordered a retrial? Where are his accomplices ? where is the network which was used to harm civilians and cause large numbers of casualties? Are you saying that KJ is a superman and this everything on his own?
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Jul 19, 2019 04:43pm
Indian Victory.....
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Jul 19, 2019 04:45pm
Right decision. Demonstrates compliance to the International Court of Justice verdict; wise strategy. Will pay off in future international dealings.
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Jul 19, 2019 05:04pm
@Shubs, No, they are used ot it.
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Jul 19, 2019 05:24pm
The Consular Access should mean no presence of Pakistani officials when Indian officers are in conversation with Kulbhushan.
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Jul 19, 2019 05:54pm
@M.Mian, The onus is always on the prosecution to prove the accused guilty. This is the law in 165 countries.
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Jul 19, 2019 06:07pm
Millions of Pakistanis tax payers money was used for not to let India get consular access to Yadav. All went in drain.
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Jul 19, 2019 06:20pm
Why cant Pakistan just ignore the ICJ verdict? Happens all the time.
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